2011 APPIC Internship Application Thread

[VeryNearlyThere]

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Is anyone else having a hard time ranking their 2nd and 3rd sites?

I am struggling with that. At first it was 3rd and 4th, but it became 2nd and 3rd. I did what other students in my program have done--create a ranking spreadsheet with different categories of aspects that are important to you (location, supervision, hours/week etc). I actually did it twice because I thought about a few more categories of things that were important to me (health insurance), and the results came out the same both times. So, I'm going to rely on that and stop tinkering with my list. Hope that is helpful!

 

[aagman01]

Glad I haven't received any such notifications!

On a more important note: match results are in 3 weeks from today!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

Today I got an e-mail from one of my top choices with an ambiguous subject line, which made my stomach drop. I was terrified that it was notification that I was no longer under consideration, but thankfully it wasn't. Phew!

I really don't under why sites notify candidates that they are no longer under consideration at all. Given that ranking those sites can't hurt us, it seems unnecessarily mean.

 

[clinpsych]

Today I got an e-mail from one of my top choices with an ambiguous subject line, which made my stomach drop. I was terrified that it was notification that I was no longer under consideration, but thankfully it wasn't. Phew!

I really don't under why sites notify candidates that they are no longer under consideration at all. Given that ranking those sites can't hurt us, it seems unnecessarily mean.

1. It would take too much time.
2. Many sites will have a rank list that is quite long, particularly if they want to avoid the clearing house (or whatever it is called now).

I think something got lost in translation.

 

[clinpsych]

On a more important note: match results are in 3 weeks from today!!!!!!!!!!! 🙂

Woo Hoo!

Am I the only (greedy) one who is feeling kind of sad that I'll only get to match to one site (if the fates allow!), and that I won't get to take advantage of so many of the awesome training experiences that I've been reading and hearing about for the past couple of months?

Oh well, there's always post-doc. 😀

 

[clinpsych]

Also, it's possible that the site has decided to not rank you at all. In which case, there is no chance of matching there, and they are doing you a favor. It's harsh, but it does happen.

I understand that others may have different opinions, but at this point in the process (i.e., between interviews and ranking), I don't think that notifying applicants if they are no longer under consideration is doing them a favor, the majority of the time. Unless an applicant only interviewed at or was planning on ranking one site, having that information will not offer a significant advantage to the applicant.

For me (and again, I understand that others, such as erg23, may feel differently), the inconvenience of figuring out how to rank all of my interview sites is nothing compared to the emotional reaction I would have to being notified that I was no longer under consideration at a site (i.e., that having met me, they were no longer interested in me). There's nothing concrete I could do with that information at this point. It would just heighten my anxiety about matching. For the majority of applicants (who are going to match anyway), that's making the process more painful than it needs to be, IMO.

Thankfully, it seems like sites rarely notify applicants that they're no longer under consideration post-interview.

 

[AcronymAllergy]

I understand that others may have different opinions, but at this point in the process (i.e., between interviews and ranking), I don't think that notifying applicants if they are no longer under consideration is doing them a favor, the majority of the time. Unless an applicant only interviewed at or was planning on ranking one site, having that information will not offer a significant advantage to the applicant.

For me (and again, I understand that others, such as erg23, may feel differently), the inconvenience of figuring out how to rank all of my interview sites is nothing compared to the emotional reaction I would have to being notified that I was no longer under consideration at a site (i.e., that having met me, they were no longer interested in me). There's nothing concrete I could do with that information at this point. It would just heighten my anxiety about matching. For the majority of applicants (who are going to match anyway), that's making the process more painful than it needs to be, IMO.

Thankfully, it seems like sites rarely notify applicants that they're no longer under consideration post-interview.

I was thinking about this yesterday, and actually came up with a few different scenarios in which the site letting you know could significantly impact your rankings:

1) If you were in the couples match and your spouse were still being considered at the site; thus, he/she may want to rank it differently if you won't be around, or you might want to shift your rankings to include more nearby sites higher on your list.

2) If you have a heavy geographic bias, and wanted to include at least three nearby sites in your top five. Should one of those three sites now no longer be ranking you, you may want to rank another site in the area--that was previously lower on your list--more highly.

There are probably a dozen other situations where the information could be useful. It can be hard to stomach, but like erg, I appreciate the transparency the site is attempting to promote.

 

[Psychstuca]

I understand that others may have different opinions, but at this point in the process (i.e., between interviews and ranking), I don't think that notifying applicants if they are no longer under consideration is doing them a favor, the majority of the time. Unless an applicant only interviewed at or was planning on ranking one site, having that information will not offer a significant advantage to the applicant.

For me (and again, I understand that others, such as erg23, may feel differently), the inconvenience of figuring out how to rank all of my interview sites is nothing compared to the emotional reaction I would have to being notified that I was no longer under consideration at a site (i.e., that having met me, they were no longer interested in me). There's nothing concrete I could do with that information at this point. It would just heighten my anxiety about matching. For the majority of applicants (who are going to match anyway), that's making the process more painful than it needs to be, IMO.

Thankfully, it seems like sites rarely notify applicants that they're no longer under consideration post-interview.

I totally agree. I have received one of those "no longer under consideration, not at all about you, only because the specific track you've interviewed for may be not the best match for you", etc.
Even though I was lucky to have a bundle of interviews, and this site wasn't my absolute favorite, this email really threw me off (which wasn't particiularly helpful since I had another interview the next day). I had to do lots of cog restructuring to move my self-confidence back up to the baseline. I prefer not to know, the process so nerve-wrecking already

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

There is definitely a skill to writing a "It's not you, it's me" letter or a "we think you are great...but not for us." I had to write a letter like this recently, and it took me a couple of revisions because nobody likes getting rejected. Keep in mind that it may sting, but it doesn't mean you have failed as a graduate student. By the time you get licensed, you would have been rejected dozens of times between grad programs, journal submissions, internship, post-doc/fellowship, etc....I swear it gets easier!

 

[Existenz]

There is definitely a skill to writing a "It's not you, it's me" letter or a "we think you are great...but not for us." I had to write a letter like this recently, and it took me a couple of revisions because nobody likes getting rejected. Keep in mind that it may sting, but it doesn't mean you have failed as a graduate student. By the time you get licensed, you would have been rejected dozens of times between grad programs, journal submissions, internship, post-doc/fellowship, etc....I swear it gets easier!

years of dating and leaving low paying jobs has taught me the less words is more lol. caveman style: "bye".

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

years of dating and leaving low paying jobs has taught me the less words is more lol. caveman style: "bye".

That would be easier, but you never know when you'll cross pathes with someone again, so it is important to do it right.

 

[IsItOver]

I totally agree. I have received one of those "no longer under consideration, not at all about you, only because the specific track you've interviewed for may be not the best match for you", etc.
Even though I was lucky to have a bundle of interviews, and this site wasn't my absolute favorite, this email really threw me off (which wasn't particiularly helpful since I had another interview the next day). I had to do lots of cog restructuring to move my self-confidence back up to the baseline. I prefer not to know, the process so nerve-wrecking already

While I totally and completely agree, I find myself falling on the other side of the fence. Maybe I'm just a masochist, but I want to know, despite the pain and the fact that knowing would in no way, shape, or form make my life easier or be helpful.

 

[JDS1405]

While I totally and completely agree, I find myself falling on the other side of the fence. Maybe I'm just a masochist, but I want to know, despite the pain and the fact that knowing would in no way, shape, or form make my life easier or be helpful.

Ditto on the masochistic tendencies. Most of us would likely not benefit from hearing that we're no longer under consideration (though the couples match scenario is a good one - hadn't thought of that) but it's still good to know. Well, not "good" but you catch my drift.

On the other side - I've had two sites email me following interviews with a "we've made our next cut after interviews and you're still very much under consideration" type email. Talk about a headwreck. I know our rankings are supposed to be solely based on our interest in the program, but how can a person NOT be influenced by hearing that after a second cut, a site still wants you? One of the sites that emailed me like this was lower down on my list, and I had this insane tendency to move them up just because of the warm fuzzies that came with their email. 😛 Of course I didn't end up moving them, but seriously... some uniformity in whether/how sites communicate would be very nice.

But yes. Just 3 more days until the ranking deadline, and 2.5 weeks until the big news comes. Here's hoping everyone is very very happy with their results on the 25th!!

 

[erg923]

I certified my ranks this morning. I was able to rank one site 3 times due to the fact that, if you told them you wanted to, you would be ranked for each of the three tracks they offer. Statistically speaking, does this raise my chances as much as if i was given 2 extra sites. It seems to me that this significantly raises my chances of matching to this particular site (which also happens to be my number 1). Am I thinking correctly here?

Btw, this site only interview 22 people and they have 4 spots total.

 

[docma]

I am no statistician, but I think having 3 ways to rank the same site would logically increase your chances of matching (compared to being able to only rank it once), especially if they have a relatively small pool of candidates. If I understand the system correctly, the computer will try to match you to all of their tracks and you would match as long as they did not have preferred candidates above you who also ranked them first.

 

[erg923]

Yes, obviously my chances are increased some. However, I guess what I was asking is if those 2 extra ranks from one site function the same as literally having 2 extra sites. I ask because that puts me over that 7 ranking barrier. I understand thats not a safety of anything, but I heard 7 ranks is really key to having "a better than not" chance of matching.

I'm not stats ******ed or anything, just anxiety ridden and feel like the stats of the match are so messed up anyway, that i will misinterpret things in my quest to be reassured.

 

[docma]

Stats are just stats. We wish the stats could reassure us. But they just describe trends which are not personal. And the real angst in this process is the personal vulnerability everyone feels and the fact that there are selection dynamics and economic forces in the overall process that are beyond any individual's control. So I think there probably isn't a route to true "reassurance". If you did the best you could and ranked your preferences, then you have to accept that the system will yield an outcome that is at this point beyond control. Mindfulness. Radical Acceptance. Mindfulness. Radical Acceptance.

 

[Existenz]

Yes, obviously my chances are increased some. However, I guess what I was asking is if those 2 extra ranks from one site function the same as literally having 2 extra sites. I ask because that puts me over that 7 ranking barrier. I understand thats not a safety of anything, but I heard 7 ranks is really key to having "a better than not" chance of matching.

I'm not stats ******ed or anything, just anxiety ridden and feel like the stats of the match are so messed up anyway, that i will misinterpret things in my quest to be reassured.

at least one site i know of has multiple tracks and they basically said "if you want to really be here you can rank them all". I'm doing the same at one site. Lets hope.

 

[AcronymAllergy]

Yes, obviously my chances are increased some. However, I guess what I was asking is if those 2 extra ranks from one site function the same as literally having 2 extra sites. I ask because that puts me over that 7 ranking barrier. I understand thats not a safety of anything, but I heard 7 ranks is really key to having "a better than not" chance of matching.

I'm not stats ******ed or anything, just anxiety ridden and feel like the stats of the match are so messed up anyway, that i will misinterpret things in my quest to be reassured.

So wait, does the site have four slots total, or four slots for each of the three tracks you can rank? If the former, I'm not sure if ranking more than one would increase your chances more than ranking an entirely different site; if the latter, it might increase them more, as the applicant pool from which they're drawing for each track (22) would be substantially smaller than many other sites.

Whatever the case, if you're interested in more than one track and/or really want to match at the site, I say rank as many as is feasible. I don't see how doing so could at all hurt your chances.

Also, with respect to the "magic 7" number--keep in mind that this just relates to the average number of rankings made by last year's matching applicants, NOT to the number of individual sites they ranked. Thus, it likely includes many instances in which applicants--such as yourself--had the option of ranking multiple tracks at the same site.

 

[AcronymAllergy]

at least one site i know of has multiple tracks and they basically said "if you want to really be here you can rank them all". I'm doing the same at one site. Lets hope.

I interviewed at one site that said the same (i.e., "technically, you could rank all the different tracks offered here"). However, I simply couldn't bring myself to rank more than one, as the training opportunities and specialty areas were exceedingly disparate (e.g., PTSD/trauma, neuro, health). The TD essentially said the same thing--he couldn't see how someone could realistically justify the diversity of interest it would require to earnestly want to match into all of the tracks.

However, I could definitely see ranking multiple tracks if the emphasis areas were similar, or if the only difference between tracks was the setting.

 

[erg923]

The tracks I am ranking are indeed pretty disparate, but its an Federal Prison Medical Center and due to the location (hometown), pay, and job security following an internship there...thats where I want to be. The training director knows this and seems perfectly understanding of the fact that, with FMCs and FCCs, alot of applicants are simply trying to get in the door...and they are perfectly ok with that. They also seemed very understanding of the importance of location when applicants are ranking. They seem to be very much ok with it.

 

[AcronymAllergy]

The tracks I am ranking are indeed pretty disparate, but its an Federal Prison Medical Center and due to the location (hometown), pay, and job security following an internship there...thats where I want to be. The training director knows this and seems perfectly understanding of the fact that, with FMCs and FCCs, alot of applicants are simply trying to get in the door...and they are perfectly ok with that. They also seemed very understanding of the importance of location when applicants are ranking. They seem to be very much ok with it.

Sounds great. I say if the TD is ok with ranking multiple tracks (and is actually supportive of it, which seems to be the case), go for it. I only mentioned my specific example as a reason why I chose not to in that particular case. After that TD talked, I was actually slightly paranoid (almost certainly unnecessarily so) that ranking more than one or two tracks would reflect negatively on you as an applicant. That, and I honestly just couldn't see myself doing some of the work that was associated with the other tracks--just wasn't my particular cup o' tea.

Location is rather important for me as well, so I completely understand wanting to do everything possible to increase your chances of an acceptable match.

 

[aagman01]

Doesn't hurt you in any way to rank all 3!!!!!!!! If a site doesn't think you are a good match for a particular tract, they will just rank you lower or not rank you at all. No harm, no foul right

At some sites, I liked particular tracts over other sites but not other tracts at that same site over those same other sites - so the option to rank by tract was appreciated!

GOod luck!

The tracks I am ranking are indeed pretty disparate, but its an Federal Prison Medical Center and due to the location (hometown), pay, and job security following an internship there...thats where I want to be. The training director knows this and seems perfectly understanding of the fact that, with FMCs and FCCs, alot of applicants are simply trying to get in the door...and they are perfectly ok with that. They also seemed very understanding of the importance of location when applicants are ranking. They seem to be very much ok with it.

 

[aagman01]

The TD would have no way to know how many rotation tracts you ranked or how you ranked them. So there is absolutely no reason to be paranoid in the least 🙂

Sounds great. I say if the TD is ok with ranking multiple tracks (and is actually supportive of it, which seems to be the case), go for it. I only mentioned my specific example as a reason why I chose not to in that particular case. After that TD talked, I was actually slightly paranoid (almost certainly unnecessarily so) that ranking more than one or two tracks would reflect negatively on you as an applicant. That, and I honestly just couldn't see myself doing some of the work that was associated with the other tracks--just wasn't my particular cup o' tea.

Location is rather important for me as well, so I completely understand wanting to do everything possible to increase your chances of an acceptable match.

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

I certified my ranks this morning. I was able to rank one site 3 times due to the fact that, if you told them you wanted to, you would be ranked for each of the three tracks they offer. Statistically speaking, does this raise my chances as much as if i was given 2 extra sites. It seems to me that this significantly raises my chances of matching to this particular site (which also happens to be my number 1). Am I thinking correctly here?

Btw, this site only interview 22 people and they have 4 spots total.

Does each track have a separate APPIC#? If so, it is equivalent to 2 "extra" sites. As for your chance of matching to it, relatively speaking...yes, if they rank you on all 3 tracks. If they only rank you on 1 (the one you ranked), than your other two spots do not impact your chance to match. It isn't a straight probability calculation because of the "bumping" and whatnot that can happen during the match, but in general it would behoove you to rank all 3 if the site is your top choice.

If you want a good book on probability, I'd recommend Wong's "Sharp Sports Better". I'd hazard to guess ranking all 3 tracks is an +EV bet. 😀

 

[AcronymAllergy]

The TD would have no way to know how many rotation tracts you ranked or how you ranked them. So there is absolutely no reason to be paranoid in the least 🙂

You actually had to let the program know which tracks you were interested in being considered for, so that's where the paranoia sprung up.

 

[aagman01]

Ahhh...........so you felt uncomfortable requesting to be ranked in multiple slots at a site? That is different that what I interpreted your posting to mean. And totally makes sense!

And no, I would not say what you felt was paranoia - if tracts are substantially different (like many are) and you are requesting consideration from the TD for consideration to each tract, I could see how a TD could infer you are unstructured/unclear about your professional development and training goals, long term interests and what not. And so, yes, I would think that asking to be considered/ranked on each different tract (considering they are substantially different) could hurt your ranking. And no, to be honest I do not agree that you were being paranoid - I think you were be prudent. Two different things in my opinion

You actually had to let the program know which tracks you were interested in being considered for, so that's where the paranoia sprung up.

 

[erg923]

I am too understand that there is no cost to submit an APPI to programs in phase 2 of the match, no matter how many programs one submits to?

 

[AcronymAllergy]

I am too understand that there is no cost to submit an APPI to programs in phase 2 of the match, no matter how many programs one submits to?

That's my understanding as well. I'm still curious just how the programs are going to handle phase 2--my guess is a flurry of phone interviews, seeing as how the entire phase only lasts a month.

 

[docma]

It will be new for everybody. And probably an improvement on the prior Clearinghouse scrum which moved way too fast for any kind of well-considered decision-making. Limiting the participating students to only those disappointed in the first Match is also much more fair in terms of addressing the imbalance problem.

 

[Sampaguita]

Hi Everyone! I hope the ranking process is going ok, this is really difficult!

Anyway I had two questions:

--Just curious what everyone's personal experience has been with students you have heard of who have applied for internship in prior years. In my program, it seems as though students have either not matched or gotten one of their top choices (typically 1st or 2nd, but in a few cases, 4th). How often have you all heard of people getting one of their last choices, say for example, 7th or 8th choice?

--I already have my ideal post-doc site chosen, which is an Army Medical Center. I am trying to figure out how to rank some of my sites, which are mostly VA hospitals, a few Consortiums w/ VAs/Medical Schools, and a Public Hospital. Does anyone know about applying to Army Medical Centers for post-doc, like will they strongly prefer applicants who have come from VA internship positions? I tried emailing them twice and they haven't emailed back (some site I chose eh?). Any ideas? The Public Hospital site I am applying to has awesome training but I currently have it ranked lower on my list because I won't be getting any experience with a military population.

Ideas? Thanks!! 😳

 

[ADDICTED2STATS]

Hi Everyone! I hope the ranking process is going ok, this is really difficult!

Anyway I had two questions:

--Just curious what everyone's personal experience has been with students you have heard of who have applied for internship in prior years. In my program, it seems as though students have either not matched or gotten one of their top choices (typically 1st or 2nd, but in a few cases, 4th). How often have you all heard of people getting one of their last choices, say for example, 7th or 8th choice?

--I already have my ideal post-doc site chosen, which is an Army Medical Center. I am trying to figure out how to rank some of my sites, which are mostly VA hospitals, a few Consortiums w/ VAs/Medical Schools, and a Public Hospital. Does anyone know about applying to Army Medical Centers for post-doc, like will they strongly prefer applicants who have come from VA internship positions? I tried emailing them twice and they haven't emailed back (some site I chose eh?). Any ideas? The Public Hospital site I am applying to has awesome training but I currently have it ranked lower on my list because I won't be getting any experience with a military population.

Ideas? Thanks!! 😳

I believe most people in my program have gotten their 1st or 2nd choice (but I don't know that for sure). One of my classmates matched at their 8th choice, so it does happen. As for the military postdoc, I have no idea.

This is completely off topic, but I thought I'd share anyway. One of the training directors at a site I interviewed at gave us a great example of how the match actually works:

Tonight at 11:59 pm (EST) we will submit our rank lists. At the same time, the places you interviewed at will submit their ranking of all the applicants being considered. Then, both of these lists go up to Canada where five guys in a garage set up a dart board, and, over the next two weeks, spend their time throwing darts with our names on them at a board full of internship spots. Ideally by the end of the 2.5 weeks they will have us all placed.

Anyone know the rationale for taking 2.5 weeks? I can run an analysis that analyzes 20,000+ observations of nested data with 15+ variables in under an hour on my laptop. It really takes 2.5 weeks to match ~75% of us to internship sites? I think my smart phone could run their algorithm and place us faster than that.

 

[AcronymAllergy]

I believe most people in my program have gotten their 1st or 2nd choice (but I don't know that for sure). One of my classmates matched at their 8th choice, so it does happen. As for the military postdoc, I have no idea.

This is completely off topic, but I thought I'd share anyway. One of the training directors at a site I interviewed at gave us a great example of how the match actually works:

Tonight at 11:59 pm (EST) we will submit our rank lists. At the same time, the places you interviewed at will submit their ranking of all the applicants being considered. Then, both of these lists go up to Canada where five guys in a garage set up a dart board, and, over the next two weeks, spend their time throwing darts with our names on them at a board full of internship spots. Ideally by the end of the 2.5 weeks they will have us all placed.

Anyone know the rationale for taking 2.5 weeks? I can run an analysis that analyzes 20,000+ observations of nested data with 15+ variables in under an hour on my laptop. It really takes 2.5 weeks to match ~75% of us to internship sites? I think my smart phone could run their algorithm and place us faster than that.

I was wondering about the 2.5 weeks bit as well, given the computerization of the whole process. My guess is that they've built in a LOT of redundancy and data checking. They'll likely check (and recheck) ranking lists for accuracy, re-run the matching program a few thousand times (perhaps at various different starting points) to be sure optimal placement rates and locations are reached, and then possibly check a certain amount of the process by hand.

Plus, I'd imagine that there will probably be at least a week's worth of correspondance between NMS and APPIC discussing the results and how to disseminate them.

Either that, or they're going to finish the whole shibang in a couple hours, and then sit back and read on here about us freaking out for the next two weeks.

 

[irish80122]

I was wondering about the 2.5 weeks bit as well, given the computerization of the whole process. My guess is that they've built in a LOT of redundancy and data checking. They'll likely check (and recheck) ranking lists for accuracy, re-run the matching program a few thousand times (perhaps at various different starting points) to be sure optimal placement rates and locations are reached, and then possibly check a certain amount of the process by hand.

Plus, I'd imagine that there will probably be at least a week's worth of correspondance between NMS and APPIC discussing the results and how to disseminate them.

Either that, or they're going to finish the whole shibang in a couple hours, and then sit back and read on here about us freaking out for the next two weeks.

The whole thing reminds me some of taking the SAT with one difference. When I took the SAT, I remember there being a day where you could call or go online, pay $15, and get your scores early. I am kind of amazed they don't have something similar. Can you imagine what it would be like if you could pay even $100 to find out if you matched, and if so, where you are going a week ahead of time. Call me impatient, but I would so do it!

 

[Therapist4Chnge]

Just curious what everyone's personal experience has been with students you have heard of who have applied for internship in prior years. In my program, it seems as though students have either not matched or gotten one of their top choices (typically 1st or 2nd, but in a few cases, 4th). How often have you all heard of people getting one of their last choices, say for example, 7th or 8th choice?

Most of the people I know who matched were able to land 1 of their top 3, though at least two landed their 6th and 7th choices. I didn't match to my top 3 (3 ridiculously competitive academic medical centers, aim high..right?), but it all worked out in the end.

Matching is the big hurdle, landing your top choice is the cherry on top.

 

[Lichtung]

as I'm going over the huge pile of stuff from interviews, I find a fun little note from a training director. During the interview day, he mentioned that we could email him listing additional tracks (beyond the one we interviewed for) we'd like to be considered for. Then I was taken to a whole different area of the campus for several long interviews, which went over the end of anything that may have gone on in the main area where the rest of the students were.

so this note? It says "if after learning about our program you wish to be considered for our internship, it is necessary that we receive an email from you letting us know for which programs you wish to be considered." Deadline was late January.

oh nice, I might not match because I didn't see this. Anyone else have to re-re-confirm (because I already thanked the person who interviewed me and asked a question) their interest in an entire internship site?

 

[Sampaguita]

I have heard a rumor that the actual computer process takes under 10 minutes. BUT they have to audit the results to make sure the algorithm worked out correctly, and so this is what takes up most of the time. Anyone else hear anything like this?

 

[Sampaguita]

as I'm going over the huge pile of stuff from interviews, I find a fun little note from a training director. During the interview day, he mentioned that we could email him listing additional tracks (beyond the one we interviewed for) we'd like to be considered for. Then I was taken to a whole different area of the campus for several long interviews, which went over the end of anything that may have gone on in the main area where the rest of the students were.

so this note? It says "if after learning about our program you wish to be considered for our internship, it is necessary that we receive an email from you letting us know for which programs you wish to be considered." Deadline was late January.

oh nice, I might not match because I didn't see this. Anyone else have to re-re-confirm (because I already thanked the person who interviewed me and asked a question) their interest in an entire internship site?

That's annoying! My guess is you are not the only one who forgot! Hope you got the email and it's a good thing you didn't discover it tomorrow!

 

[erg923]

as I'm going over the huge pile of stuff from interviews, I find a fun little note from a training director. During the interview day, he mentioned that we could email him listing additional tracks (beyond the one we interviewed for) we'd like to be considered for. Then I was taken to a whole different area of the campus for several long interviews, which went over the end of anything that may have gone on in the main area where the rest of the students were.

so this note? It says "if after learning about our program you wish to be considered for our internship, it is necessary that we receive an email from you letting us know for which programs you wish to be considered." Deadline was late January.

oh nice, I might not match because I didn't see this. Anyone else have to re-re-confirm (because I already thanked the person who interviewed me and asked a question) their interest in an entire internship site?

Wait? They require you to contact them after the interview day in order be ranked at all? OR they require that you contact them after the inteview day in order to be ranked for tracks other than the one you interviewed for? Either way, I find it hard to believe that the TD didn't spell out this requirement explicitly during the course of the interview day...or at least remind the applicants to read the packets that the site provided very carefully for instructions on how to rank the site.

 

[Lichtung]

Wait? They require you to contact them after the interview day in order be ranked at all? OR they require that you contact them after the inteview day in order to be ranked for tracks other than the one you interviewed for? Either way, I find it hard to believe that the TD didn't spell out this requirement explicitly during the course of the interview day...or at least remind the applicants to read the packets that the site provided very carefully for instructions on how to rank the site.

What I heard him say in the overview portion was that we could email him to say we *also* wanted to be considered for other tracks. Then for the rest of the day I was gone in another section of the building so I don't know what he said. THEN today 👎 I just found the section I quote "If after learning about our program, you wish to be considered for our *internship*, it is necessary that Dr. _____ receive an email from you letting ____ know for which programs you wish to be considered... the hope of the interview day is to allow you to best determine what program(s) would meet your training goals and interests. Consequently, it is fine to express interest in whatever programs you remain interested in following the interview day.

Please respond to Dr. ____ within one week of your interview or by January ____, whichever date is earlier, via the email address below.


Asterisks above to emphasize bewilderment, nothing else. Anyway, the doc I subsequently corresponded with didn't remind me to email the TD (not that she necessarily would) AND it's so bizarre, that I'm thinking it might not actually be a requirement and maybe they ranked me anyway. Regardless, I ended up looking like I have low to no executive functioning, because I'm emailing and leaving voicemail for the TD at 5.30 p.m. on rank night. Awesome!

 

[Existenz]

Wait? They require you to contact them after the interview day in order be ranked at all? OR they require that you contact them after the inteview day in order to be ranked for tracks other than the one you interviewed for? Either way, I find it hard to believe that the TD didn't spell out this requirement explicitly during the course of the interview day...or at least remind the applicants to read the packets that the site provided very carefully for instructions on how to rank the site.

at least 3 sites I visited had this requirement.

 

[Teacher07]

I JUST (5 minutes ago) got an email saying that the 1 track I had applied to at a site is withdrawing from the match because of budget reasons. I don't think they are considering me for any other tracks since I only interviewed for this one... is there any was to ask whether they'd consider me for another track now? I'm just stumped by this...

 

[BiggE]

I JUST (5 minutes ago) got an email saying that the 1 track I had applied to at a site is withdrawing from the match because of budget reasons. I don't think they are considering me for any other tracks since I only interviewed for this one... is there any was to ask whether they'd consider me for another track now? I'm just stumped by this...

wow, talk about a nail biter, sorry for you

 

[AcronymAllergy]

at least 3 sites I visited had this requirement.

I had one site that required it as well. And because of that one site, I was paranoid that any of my others may have, unbeknownst to me, also had that requirement.

 

[psychgal]

Wow now I have something new to worry about. Anybody having last minute jitters about your rankings. I am. I have left it alone but all of a sudden am unsure of my third choice. Ugh- I have about 55 minutes to decide 😕

 

[Sampaguita]

Wow now I have something new to worry about. Anybody having last minute jitters about your rankings. I am. I have left it alone but all of a sudden am unsure of my third choice. Ugh- I have about 55 minutes to decide 😕

First instinct!

 

[psychgal]

First instinct!

Thanks- I decided to leave it as is- just last minute cold feet I think😀 I'm happy this part is over.

 

[aagman01]

Made a last minute change. Submission deadline for rankings has now passed - good luck with matching everyone !!!

Thanks- I decided to leave it as is- just last minute cold feet I think😀 I'm happy this part is over.

 

[psychgal]

Made a last minute change. Submission deadline for rankings has now passed - good luck with matching everyone !!!

Wow what a relief now that that part is over. I came very close to making a last minute change myself. I bet quite a few people did. Now I just hope I match. I can't wait until this process is over. I hope all of us on SDN match- a 100% match rate- here's to hoping.

 

[clinpsych]

Whew, I didn't expect that to be so nerve-wracking! I generally think of myself as decisive, but this experience has called that into question.

Our fates have been sealed. Let the waiting begin! 😀

 

[clinpsych]

I JUST (5 minutes ago) got an email saying that the 1 track I had applied to at a site is withdrawing from the match because of budget reasons. I don't think they are considering me for any other tracks since I only interviewed for this one... is there any was to ask whether they'd consider me for another track now? I'm just stumped by this...

Wow…what awful timing! I’m so sorry.

Wow what a relief now that that part is over. I came very close to making a last minute change myself. I bet quite a few people did. Now I just hope I match. I can't wait until this process is over. I hope all of us on SDN match- a 100% match rate- here's to hoping.

I’ll toast to that!