2012 APPIC Internship Application Thread

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Sounds like he doesn't have any interviews yet... which is an awful feeling... how many more do you have left to hear from MonkeysUncle?? Last year I had one "given" interview with the Navy cuz they interview pretty much everyone who applies (even though I had no adult experience lol), and this year I have one interview that I am considering a "given" since statistically they have tended to interview almost everyone who applies since they get such a low number of applicants. I counted those "givens" out because I feel like my application and experience don't matter much in the scheme of things with those sites... and I was left with nothing until Dec. 13th last year when I finally was offered an interview based on my application. As you can probably tell, I did not match and I am here again this year going through the same experience... I have been rejected from 3, probably 4, sites that have based their decisions on application materials and experience. Let's hang in there, I do believe that a lot of sites take all the time they can to review applications, which means we may not get any good news until next week!!! That first interview invitation is a great feeling for sure but it would definitely be nice to have more than one or two in the last week...

No, I haven't gotten any interview offers. It's just very upsetting. I'm Ph.D., I have great grades, great experience.....I just don't know wtf.....
 
No, I haven't gotten any interview offers. It's just very upsetting. I'm Ph.D., I have great grades, great experience.....I just don't know wtf.....
It can be distressing! I just try to stay positive - there's still a chance until they reject me. I've heard from current and previous interns (that MATCHed) that it's not uncommon to get rejections first - takes longer to keep making the cut. Keeping my fingers crossed that we hear good news this week! :xf:
 
No, I haven't gotten any interview offers. It's just very upsetting. I'm Ph.D., I have great grades, great experience.....I just don't know wtf.....

go back to one of your applications and see if there's a glaring error, like saying you haven't defended your dissertation proposal when you have, or mismatch in #'s, you said you were of a particular TO but not wasn't true. Or are you sure you got stellar LORs (when you asked your recommenders, did you just ask for an LOR, or did you request a STRONG LOR?) There's also just plain crapshoot, and I hope you hear some good news soon.
 
Woke up to a rejection from Battlecreek VA. Weird, most of my experience has been at VAs but I haven't gotten one interview at this type of site.

I have more experience with college age students but have gotten all rejections from counseling centers and all my interviews are with med center/VAs. My research is in oncology, so maybe that's it?
 
I have more experience with college age students but have gotten all rejections from counseling centers and all my interviews are with med center/VAs. My research is in oncology, so maybe that's it?

Oncology research sounds interesting🙂 This whole process is strange. I have 3 interviews at pretty different settings (addictions, consortium, college cc). Good luck!
 
How disappointing, so sorry! Here's hoping for some more good news coming your way! :luck:

Thank you!
🙂

I have no real reason to complain, I am doing very well in this process. The perfectionism isn't helping with rejections, though.
:luck:
 
Oncology research sounds interesting🙂 This whole process is strange. I have 3 interviews at pretty different settings (addictions, consortium, college cc). Good luck!

I am starting to believe in the randomness of it. Good luck to you too!
 
I am geographically restricted, so I tried to generalize my training a bit more in the last year or so, just so I could apply to more sites. Unfortunately, it doesn't seem to have worked out so well for me yet... I was mostly child focused until the fourth year of my program, so I applied to two all-child sites. Then I added adult experience my fourth year so that I could apply to internships that required work with both age populations (which apparently didn't work since I did not match and I wasn't offered interviews ANYWHERE that had adults, even if it was a mixed-age population rotation), so I added some more adult experience in a military facility this last year and applied to two VAs, two college counseling centers (long-shot cuz I don't have any CC experience), two very general-seeming CMHCs, and like I said above, two sites that are all children (one inpatient, one school-based). Last year I was thinking that I was too focused on pediatric neuropsyc because, even though I was not geographically restricted last year, I only got two interviews out of 18 applications. I did apply to very competitive sites with the same group of applicants applying to those sites (same interest in ped. np). This year I'm wondering if, like I think you are suggesting with your post (maybe I'm wrong in my assumption though), if the sites I applied to don't like that I suddenly went more general in my fourth and fifth years. I have been rejected from one of the CMHCs, one of the CC centers, one of the VAs (probably both since others got interviews from the second one), and I only have one interview at the other CMHC. I'm really hoping that all my child focus the first three years of my program gives me better news from the two child sites next week... not expecting an invitation from the other CC since I don't have experience with that specifically.

Just curious about people's experiences. Nothing implied, just wondering if people apply to a range of places that they feel would be a perfect match, and if so, how do they feel like different types of sites could all be perfect? I guess I'm just trying to make sense of a process that seems pretty random to me.

From what you wrote, it sounds like you're more interested in the pediatric side but based on your experience last year, you decided to get some adult experience mainly for the sake of matching this year.
 
So, I have not heard from Lincoln or Montefiore - and they sent both rejections and interviews, so I am confused.

My ratio is good so far, but I still want to hear from all sites and get it over with...
 
I wanted to stay in NY and was willing to move to Boston, so my application was mainly location based. I worked only with adults, aside for some random child case and an adolescent group. However, since I worked a lot in inpatient I applied to hospital sites that are mixed or even heavy on child experience. I applied to a few CC, outpatient community clinics, and mainly hospitals. I applied to the same places all my cohort applied to, very very competitive sites.

I think my school has a good name and I worked really hard on my essays, hearing time and again how important the first one is.

I tailored each cover letter to the site, trying to find something to say about major rotations or features of the program that fit my experience.

So far I have OK results, though every rejection stings like hell and every site I interviewed with has hundreds of application. Still scared to not match...


Just curious about people's experiences. Nothing implied, just wondering if people apply to a range of places that they feel would be a perfect match, and if so, how do they feel like different types of sites could all be perfect? I guess I'm just trying to make sense of a process that seems pretty random to me.

From what you wrote, it sounds like you're more interested in the pediatric side but based on your experience last year, you decided to get some adult experience mainly for the sake of matching this year.
 
Just curious about people's experiences. Nothing implied, just wondering if people apply to a range of places that they feel would be a perfect match, and if so, how do they feel like different types of sites could all be perfect? I guess I'm just trying to make sense of a process that seems pretty random to me.

In my experience it seems like it is important to pick a type of site/population that best fits/matches with your experience. At least that is what I did and then I positioned my application around that. I only applied to one type of site with one type of population. Even though I might have had some experience in another area I did not apply to sites that would have emphasized that experience (i.e. neuropsych). So far I have done pretty well with that, I have a lot of interviews, not many rejections and a couple left to hear from. The rejections I have had were from sites that were not an exact fit...like maybe the site was very similar to the others but more faculty were dynamic rather than CBT.

Hope that helps some, but also probably a lot of stuff is random and there probably is not really a rhyme/reason as to why this all works out the way it does. And also don't worry because there is still a week to go, so I am sure there are lots of interviews just waiting for you around the corner 🙂
 
So, I have not heard from Lincoln or Montefiore - and they sent both rejections and interviews, so I am confused.

My ratio is good so far, but I still want to hear from all sites and get it over with...

I didn't see anyone post about rejections from montefiore. Did you?
 
Received an interview invite email from Ontario Shores yesterday evening. It was a mass email and says that an official letter will be on the way next week, with the interview date.
 
I know that some of you have already gotten interviews from Stony Brook UCC (on 12/8), but has anyone received a rejection letter from them? The notification deadline listed for them on the APPIC directory is today,and I haven't heard anything from them yet.
 
go back to one of your applications and see if there's a glaring error, like saying you haven't defended your dissertation proposal when you have, or mismatch in #'s, you said you were of a particular TO but not wasn't true. Or are you sure you got stellar LORs (when you asked your recommenders, did you just ask for an LOR, or did you request a STRONG LOR?) There's also just plain crapshoot, and I hope you hear some good news soon.

My LOR were very good. The dissertation box was checked correctly and all that stuff was reviewed by my program before I could submit. I just don't know. What are the rules around contacting sites to ask why you were rejected? Do they tell you?
 
I got rejected from the Battle Creek VA too. 🙁 I have 5 interviews at VAs so I thought I had a good chance at this one . . . Could be that this one seems to do more formalized testing then a lot of other places. (I, of course, have some testing experience, but it is minimal.)

As for why others haven't gotten interviews at VAs, I get the impression that the Ph.D. / Psy.D. distinction may be more important to some VAs then they claim in their brochures. This is just a guess . . . I have some very qualified & experienced friends in Psy.D. programs who haven't been able to get VA interviews while most people in my program (a Ph.D. program) have been.
 
So, I have not heard from Lincoln or Montefiore - and they sent both rejections and interviews, so I am confused.

My ratio is good so far, but I still want to hear from all sites and get it over with...

I have not heard from lincoln either. hopefully we still will!
 
I got rejected from the Battle Creek VA too. 🙁 I have 5 interviews at VAs so I thought I had a good chance at this one . . . Could be that this one seems to do more formalized testing then a lot of other places. (I, of course, have some testing experience, but it is minimal.)

As for why others haven't gotten interviews at VAs, I get the impression that the Ph.D. / Psy.D. distinction may be more important to some VAs then they claim in their brochures. This is just a guess . . . I have some very qualified & experienced friends in Psy.D. programs who haven't been able to get VA interviews while most people in my program (a Ph.D. program) have been.

It appears that some of the VAs that strongly emphasize research choose more PhDs. However, I (as well as several of my classmates) have gotten interviews at several VAs and we are Psy. Ds. Many of these VAs are ones that have had more Psy.Ds. as interns the past few years, but not all of them.
 
I got rejected from the Battle Creek VA too. 🙁 I have 5 interviews at VAs so I thought I had a good chance at this one . . . Could be that this one seems to do more formalized testing then a lot of other places. (I, of course, have some testing experience, but it is minimal.)

As for why others haven't gotten interviews at VAs, I get the impression that the Ph.D. / Psy.D. distinction may be more important to some VAs then they claim in their brochures. This is just a guess . . . I have some very qualified & experienced friends in Psy.D. programs who haven't been able to get VA interviews while most people in my program (a Ph.D. program) have been.

I think you're right regarding the assessment vs therapy emphasis. I got an interview at Battle Creek and a few other VAs heavy on assessment, and have been rejected by a few VAs heavy on therapy, which makes sense given my background.
 
Just curious about people's experiences. Nothing implied, just wondering if people apply to a range of places that they feel would be a perfect match, and if so, how do they feel like different types of sites could all be perfect? I guess I'm just trying to make sense of a process that seems pretty random to me.

From what you wrote, it sounds like you're more interested in the pediatric side but based on your experience last year, you decided to get some adult experience mainly for the sake of matching this year.
I too, am geographically restricted, or at least am choosing to be. I applied to 7 sites, 3 are a stretch (1 university counseling center - I have no epxerience in this area, 1 health - I have no experience in this area, 1 pediatric - I have minimal experience in this area), 2 are okay (neuropsychology - my current practicum is in this area), and 2 are a good match (inpatient, severe mental illness - I have a lot of experience here). So far I have 2 rejections - the 2 I had no experience in, 2 interviews, the 2 I am a good match for, and waiting on the last 3. I spent a lot of time on my application (cover letters, essays, and cv), I got excellent letters of recommendation, and have a lot of intervention and assessment hours. Yes, each rejection letter stings a little - even when I know it wouldn't be a good match for me - other than allowing me to stay in my area and complete my requirement for graduation/future licensure. But, I'd rather it work out this way than getting rejected by the sites I really wanted and felt I was a good match for. :eyebrow:
 
My LOR were very good. The dissertation box was checked correctly and all that stuff was reviewed by my program before I could submit. I just don't know. What are the rules around contacting sites to ask why you were rejected? Do they tell you?

Raynee Deigh (I think) mentioned a few pages back that her DCT advised them to wait until February to ask because sites are usually busy til then. Some sites say in their "rejection emails" *cough* Suffolk University *cough* not to ask them why you weren't offered an interview. They say it just came down to the numbers. While this is partly true (the numbers are ridiculous), it doesn't explain why the particular applicant wasn't chosen when a number of others were, so it doesn't help the applicant improve.

Check out the match stats from recent years (like number of those registered for the match vs. the number of spots available and the trends in each number) for 1) personal reassurance that there's nothing wrong with your application (or your self 😛 ) and 2) strong emotion (anger, sadness, etc.) about the state of training in our field.
 
I heard nothing today. I'm still waiting on 15 sites!

In case I missed it, has anyone heard from:

Riverbend Community Mental Health
Saint John's Child and Family Development Center
Milton Hershey School
Cambridge Health Alliance Track II Adult/Child Outpatient
Yale-New Haven Hospital Adolescent Track
Institute for Child and Family Health
UC Santa Cruz
RAMS
St. Luke's Child Track
Family Service and Guidance Center (Topeka, KS)
Park Center, Inc.
University of Hawaii
Southlake Community Mental Health
Mount Sinai Adolescent Health
Santa Clara University

Thanks!


I received an email rejection from Family Service and Guidance Center and also have not yet heard from Riverbend. Didn't apply to any of your others but good luck!
 
Originally Posted by LindsPsyD
I heard nothing today. I'm still waiting on 15 sites!

In case I missed it, has anyone heard from:

Riverbend Community Mental Health
Saint John's Child and Family Development Center
Milton Hershey School
Cambridge Health Alliance Track II Adult/Child Outpatient
Yale-New Haven Hospital Adolescent Track
Institute for Child and Family Health
UC Santa Cruz
RAMS
St. Luke's Child Track
Family Service and Guidance Center (Topeka, KS)
Park Center, Inc.
University of Hawaii
Southlake Community Mental Health
Mount Sinai Adolescent Health
Santa Clara University

I received an email rejection from Family Service and Guidance Center and also have not yet heard from Riverbend. Didn't apply to any of your others but good luck!

I have heard St. Luke's-Child Track is still reviewing applications. So I'm guessing more people will hear from them next week.
 
I just received a rejection via snail mail from Astor Services for Children and Families... that makes 5 definite rejections, 1 probable rejection, and 6 more to go (no invitations)... and most of the sites where I thought I was a really strong match have already rejected me.
 
I received an invite from Tarzana Treatment Centers on 12/1
 
Interview offer from Shared Vision Psychological Services
Rejection from DuPage County Health Department
 
I have heard from Albany Consortium (12/01) and Institute of Living--Child Track (12/05) about interviews. Albany was only scheduling interviews in December, so they may be done with invitations. I received a mass email today from IOL with detailed interview information for both Child and Adult applicants--which they said they would send once all interviews had been scheduled. So I think they are done notifying as well.

I posted last week that I heard from a friend of mine who is a current intern at Cambridge Hospital that they hadn't even begun reviewing applications yet! She said she thought they would be reviewing applications this week. So don't panic yet about not hearing from them! I'm in the same boat as you. 😉

Good luck with the rest of your sites!

Sounds like Albany started sending offers before or immediately after the deadline?
 
Invite from Colorado Mental Health Institute in Pueblo, CO yesterday. Mass invite with dates Jan 4, 11, 18, and 25.
 
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Has anyone else not gotten any interviews yet? I've had 7 rejections....8 it seems since I didn't get anything from Montefiore yesterday.....

How do you keep hope alive?

I am in the same exact position, 7 rejections with no invites. It sounds like my situation varies a little bit; I have been trying to tell myself to have expected at least half of my sites will reject based on my program and the reputation of my school (long story short, I didn't realize the problems with my education until I was too far in, so I am trying to make the best of it). I am also in a PsyD program too, which likely makes a huge difference. But I can definitely relate to the feeling of hopelessness. It's hard to find anything to hold on to...I hope thing start looking up for the both of us!
 
Keep in mind that the current climate and competition means that students submitted many more applications, which means there will be proportionately more rejections. This also probably means that sites have to use more stringent criteria to choose interviewees, so things like dissertation progress may rise in importance. Because sites are judged by CoA on the progression of their students to post-doc, it is a hazard to take in students who are not well along toward completion. I believe way too many schools allows students to go on internship prematurely and you get "set up" for disappointment by this. If you wind up without interviews, it is not a sign that you cannot successfully match in time; but it probably means you should not be in the Match yet. One of the reasons PhD students may seem to be "favored" at some sites, may actually be related to those programs typically sending students out later in the dissertation progression.
 
Sounds like Albany started sending offers before or immediately after the deadline?

Yeah, I found that strange as well. I'm still waiting to hear from them, but I'm guessing it means that there's still at least some hope, since they couldn't possibly have reviewed all applications in one day.
 
I have more experience with college age students but have gotten all rejections from counseling centers and all my interviews are with med center/VAs. My research is in oncology, so maybe that's it?

Same here! Majority of my experience is in CC, but only one interview so far with this type of site! I have been rejected by 5 other CCs so far (applied to 8 total). I am also in a Counseling Psychology Ph.D. program, and was told that we historically tend to match at CC. I'm thinking this might not be the case for me though.

My other two interviews are in community mental health centers and I still have a couple to hear back from. I have worked in a community mental health clinic for several years, but I thought they would hardly consider that. It just seems strange, but I think I will be more likely to match outside of college counseling.
 
Oooh me too. Was it personalized email? do you mind sharing the interview dates they offered? Congrats decar1!👍😀 And good luck to you too RayneeDeigh :luck::xf:

They list their interview dates in the brochure as: Jan 11, 13, 16, 17, 20

I think it's a long shot but I'm still hoping lol
 
Anyone heard from University of Virginia CC? They reported 12/9 as their notification deadline, but haven't heard anything yet!

Also waiting on Johns Hopkins CC... Ahhhh 12/15 can't come soon enough! I don't even care one way or another... I just want to know!
 
Keep in mind that the current climate and competition means that students submitted many more applications, which means there will be proportionately more rejections. This also probably means that sites have to use more stringent criteria to choose interviewees, so things like dissertation progress may rise in importance. Because sites are judged by CoA on the progression of their students to post-doc, it is a hazard to take in students who are not well along toward completion. I believe way too many schools allows students to go on internship prematurely and you get "set up" for disappointment by this. If you wind up without interviews, it is not a sign that you cannot successfully match in time; but it probably means you should not be in the Match yet. One of the reasons PhD students may seem to be "favored" at some sites, may actually be related to those programs typically sending students out later in the dissertation progression.

This is probably true for some sites but I disagree with the conclusion that you shouldn't be in the match at this time if you don't get interviews. As much as people don't like the idea, there's a lot of luck involved in this system. (This seems similar to how people cling to a just world belief when it simply isn't the case.)

Based on applicant responses to the APPIC survey (http://www.appic.org/Match/MatchStatistics/ApplicantSurvey2011Part2.aspx), 71% of respondents who hadn't completed their dissertation proposal prior to applying for internship still matched. That seems pretty late to me and, still, 71% matched.


(From above link:
28. Completion of proposal for dissertation or research project:

Prior to submitting internship applications Match rate = 84% n = 1741
Later Match rate = 71% n = 478
)

It's odd. Good luck to everyone!:luck:
 
Yes, I should have said it "might mean" not "probably...and should". I did not at all intend to suggest that there is not a very serious problem in the shortage of positions that exists. I am simply frustrated by observing the schools seem to send students out early and therefore disadvantages some of them.
Thanks for the correction
 
Has anyone else not gotten any interviews yet? I've had 7 rejections....8 it seems since I didn't get anything from Montefiore yesterday.....

How do you keep hope alive?


I wouldn't count out Montefiore yet. I got an interview from a site where the invites had been listed as going out two weeks before. Until you get a rejection, it still means you're being considered, as far as I'm concerned.
 
I agree with you, I'm also in a PhD program, and have one interview, five rejections, and am waiting (most likely to be rejected) from 8 sites (others have received interviews from them). One thing that was pointed out to me was that I might be at a disadvantage because I am a fourth year student and because I applied to highly competitive sites, I won't look as good on paper as a 5th or 6th year PhD student. I'm not sure I really understand this process, but it is a little disheartening, as I had really hoped to graduate in 2013.

In a moment of panic after receiving several rejections, I applied to a non-APA accredited site that was a really great fit. It seems like a great program, they are in California and have been operating since the early seventies. Apparently, they are in the process of getting accredited, but probably won't be for the 2012-13 training year. I am just not sure what to do-do I interview and rank them, or hold out for my one apa site (an ivy league). Any suggestions?
 
If you wind up without interviews, it is not a sign that you cannot successfully match in time; but it probably means you should not be in the Match yet. One of the reasons PhD students may seem to be "favored" at some sites, may actually be related to those programs typically sending students out later in the dissertation progression.

This is not always true. . . and I hear of very qualified PhD students who do not get interviews/match. Don't assume just because someone doesn't get interviews that they are not ready to be in the Match yet. There are more applicants than placements, don't blame the victim for the environment that they are trying to navigate.
 
Oooh me too. Was it personalized email? do you mind sharing the interview dates they offered? Congrats decar1!👍😀 And good luck to you too RayneeDeigh :luck::xf:
St. Joe's said they have AM and PM timeslots on 1/11, 1/13, 1/16, 1/17, and 1/20 and interview 40 people, so four people for each time/date. Also, email seemed personalized (had my name and email address rather than BCCing me).
 
I agree with you, I'm also in a PhD program, and have one interview, five rejections, and am waiting (most likely to be rejected) from 8 sites (others have received interviews from them). One thing that was pointed out to me was that I might be at a disadvantage because I am a fourth year student and because I applied to highly competitive sites, I won't look as good on paper as a 5th or 6th year PhD student. I'm not sure I really understand this process, but it is a little disheartening, as I had really hoped to graduate in 2013.

In a moment of panic after receiving several rejections, I applied to a non-APA accredited site that was a really great fit. It seems like a great program, they are in California and have been operating since the early seventies. Apparently, they are in the process of getting accredited, but probably won't be for the 2012-13 training year. I am just not sure what to do-do I interview and rank them, or hold out for my one apa site (an ivy league). Any suggestions?
I would interview. Ranking lists aren't due yet. You still have a chance to hear from some of the other sites. When it comes time to rank you may choose to rank them last and rank the APA accredited sites first. Or maybe after interviewing you may decide you don't want to rank them - I think your choice will be better made after the interview. Just my opinion.
 
Anyone heard from University of Virginia CC? They reported 12/9 as their notification deadline, but haven't heard anything yet!

Also waiting on Johns Hopkins CC... Ahhhh 12/15 can't come soon enough! I don't even care one way or another... I just want to know!

I saw on the list that someone got a phone invite from UVA CC on 12/5 I believe- I have not heard from them though. I'm assuming I will be hearing a rejection from them next week. I prefer the CC that send out rejections and invites on the same day so that we are not sitting around waiting to hear when we know others already have. 😡
 
I agree with you, I'm also in a PhD program, and have one interview, five rejections, and am waiting (most likely to be rejected) from 8 sites (others have received interviews from them). One thing that was pointed out to me was that I might be at a disadvantage because I am a fourth year student and because I applied to highly competitive sites, I won't look as good on paper as a 5th or 6th year PhD student. I'm not sure I really understand this process, but it is a little disheartening, as I had really hoped to graduate in 2013.

In a moment of panic after receiving several rejections, I applied to a non-APA accredited site that was a really great fit. It seems like a great program, they are in California and have been operating since the early seventies. Apparently, they are in the process of getting accredited, but probably won't be for the 2012-13 training year. I am just not sure what to do-do I interview and rank them, or hold out for my one apa site (an ivy league). Any suggestions?

Sounds like we are in similar boats right now. I'm also a fourth year in a PhD program and am frustrated with this mysterious process! I have 2 interviews and 3 rejections, with 9 sites left to hear from. Out of those 9, I think 3 will be rejections, because others have heard from them. 1 of the others was a long shot, because I don't have the 500 assessment hours that they want, and 1 is a competitive site. I am holding out hope for the remaining 4 sites, but it is hard not to get discouraged!

As for your question about ranking the un-accredited site, have you talked to your DCT or adviser about it? I know our program strongly discourages students from taking un-accredited internships, but they have allowed people to do so in certain circumstances. I would get your program's take on that issue before making a decision. Good luck to you!
 
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