2012 APPIC Internship Application Thread

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Tigerlilylynn said:
It's lame but I really think that it's just less important to them to send rejections when their process is over than it is to get ready for the interviews themselves (scheduling etc). plus typical day in day out activities.[/QUOTE]

It most certainly is less important to them than it is to the applicant, but there are practical limitations on how quickly rejections can be sent out.

decar1 said:
Or they're not really putting that much thought into the mental health and well-being of those who they plan to reject?
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Probably not that much. Most internship sites are businesses and need to focus on filling their slots in an efficient manner. The reality is that almost all intern directed activities (e.g. application review, applicant notification, seminars and supervision for current interns) is non-reimbursable time, and the internship endeavors most likely operate at a net-loss to the agency and are subsidized (or not) from elsewhere. It really is unfortunate that a REQUIRED PORTION of the doctoral training for psychologists relies on the likely unfunded activities of agencies not affiliated with (or controlled or monitored by) the student's own educational institution. Having been on the internship faculty at agency before, I assure you that all of us who had gone through the process before were certainly empathetic with the general plight of the applicants, there certainly was not enough time (or need) to become emotionally involved with the applications of the rejected students to really be able to consider the individual emotional impact of the rejection.

The system is awful, it's unfair that such financial and emotional burdens are placed on applicants, and decisions may not always be made in a way that makes sense. However, these problems are primarily, if not exclusively, attributable to the demand side of the equation, rather than the supply side.
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Just got a phone call for an interview at FIU Counseling Center! 😀😀

Still haven't heard from Manatee Glen though....
 
Has anyone heard anything about Tulane SOM? Behavioral Medicine track?
 
kaelynay said:
They typically don't require an on site interview and I am 10 months pregnant 🙂. I'm not able to travel for interviews that aren't local, so I applied to some CCs that are not local and was hoping for some luck.
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People whose experience is mostly at hospitals (I'm assuming that's where you were?) typically need to put some care in phrasing and such for CC applications. CCs are used to hospital-experienced people who think that a CC will be a vacation internship, and language that suggests an applicant thinks that is a KOD at a CC. Not saying you THINK that, but they watch for suggestions of it. (In my CC experience, yeah I did see the 18 year old girl who was sad that she didn't get into her sorority [1 session] and the girl who was sad because she broke up with her boyfriend [2 sessions]. All of my other clients either had or were borderline for clinical disorders, a few had blossoming personality disorders, most presenting concerns were comorbid with major health problems, major family disruption, bereavement, childhood sexual abuse, financial distress, or academic distress).
 
Mass email rejection from Division of Prevention and Behavioral Health/Terry Children’s Psychiatric Center
 
Mass rejection from the Psychology Internship Program at Lenox Hill Hospital. 125 applications, and interviewing 20 candidates.

Anyone get a rejection from Montefiore Child & Adolescent Track? Still waiting to hear from that site!
 
ClinicalABA said:
The system is awful, it's unfair that such financial and emotional burdens are placed on applicants, and decisions may not always be made in a way that makes sense. However, these problems are primarily, if not exclusively, attributable to the demand side of the equation, rather than the supply side.
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If it's an equation, both sides are equally responsible for the "problems." If there were an infinite number of sites, the demand wouldn't be an issue. There aren't enough sites for the current demand. You can say this is because there's too much demand or because there's not enough supply. Blaming one side and excusing the other is not logical.

On the other hand, if it's a training model for the field, then the trainers are responsible for the students/trainees. In that case, sites and programs are responsible for meeting the needs of the trainees. That isn't happening in a lot of cases.

If it's a business model, I find it difficult to believe that most internships operate at a loss. I have seen how much time interns take up with seminars and supervision but I've also seen their caseloads. I guess (based on what I've heard, not on facts that I have) that some sites can't bill for interns' clients but, at least in my area, services can be billed for anyone with a Masters degree who is operating under the license of a supervisor. This includes interns and practicum students. I'm not sure if those with BAs are allowed to bill. As a practicum student, I took up 2 hours of supervision time per week and attended trainings/meetings that were not targeted to me but were for psychologists on staff. I also had a caseload of about 10 cases at any given time/week. So the agency was able to bill 10 hours at some rate, not pay me, and lost 2 total hours of supervisor's time per week. It seems like it would be difficult for an internship to offer more hours of training than cases/clients per week, especially with the limited stipends that most internships pay. So I'd really like more info on the cost of internships to the sites because I simply can't imagine/understand the math based on my experiences. (Even when you add in the time reviewing applications and interviewing people, it seems like a site is getting discounted labor.)
 
psychwanabe said:
Mass email rejection from Division of Prevention and Behavioral Health/Terry Children’s Psychiatric Center
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Likewise. 5 rejections, 1 interview, 12 to go. Feeling pretty crappy about myself.
 
So, I know this has been asked a few times but thought I'd throw it out there again... has anyone heard from the neuropsych track at Oklahoma?
 
Duck Duck Goose said:
If it's an equation, both sides are equally responsible for the "problems." If there were an infinite number of sites, the demand wouldn't be an issue. There aren't enough sites for the current demand. You can say this is because there's too much demand or because there's not enough supply. Blaming one side and excusing the other is not logical.
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Research indicates that responsibility is not equally distributed among all programs, however. So, it certainly is possible to isolate aspects of the problem that are more to blame than others. Ignoring that is Pollyannaish thinking; a significant amount of the problem in match rates would be relieved if a small number of programs were not sending 50-100 students to the match each year.
 
Interesting... I never thought about it that way. Most of my experience is outpatient with children and families, and some experience with SMI adults (outpatient as well). I tried to phrase my CL that I was looking to increase my experience working with relationship issues and anxiety. All my LORs, however, focus on my work with children (and their families). I would love to gain experience working with young adults, though.

JockNerd said:
People whose experience is mostly at hospitals (I'm assuming that's where you were?) typically need to put some care in phrasing and such for CC applications. CCs are used to hospital-experienced people who think that a CC will be a vacation internship, and language that suggests an applicant thinks that is a KOD at a CC. Not saying you THINK that, but they watch for suggestions of it. (In my CC experience, yeah I did see the 18 year old girl who was sad that she didn't get into her sorority [1 session] and the girl who was sad because she broke up with her boyfriend [2 sessions]. All of my other clients either had or were borderline for clinical disorders, a few had blossoming personality disorders, most presenting concerns were comorbid with major health problems, major family disruption, bereavement, childhood sexual abuse, financial distress, or academic distress).
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JockNerd said:
Research indicates that responsibility is not equally distributed among all programs, however. So, it certainly is possible to isolate aspects of the problem that are more to blame than others. Ignoring that is Pollyannaish thinking; a significant amount of the problem in match rates would be relieved if a small number of programs were not sending 50-100 students to the match each year.
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This is true AND an equally significant amount of the problem in match rates would be relieved if a large number of sites offered 1 additional internship per year. Given the current situation, it doesn't make sense to blame either the applicants (even particular programs) or the sites (again, even particular programs) for the match imbalance. It's a systems problem. 👎
 
gib85rem said:
Personalized email invite to VA Eastern Kansas HCS, Leavenworth
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I received this interview invitation email from the Leaveworth, KS VA as well, in addition to a mass email rejection from Fulton State Hospital in Fulton, MO.
 
Unfortunately, even highly capable, qualified students from these massive programs are rejected sheerly by virtue of the name of their school at times. I regret not being able to relocate to a better program. I am scared that it will bite me in the butt despite strong credentials.
 
Duck Duck Goose said:
This is true AND an equally significant amount of the problem in match rates would be relieved if a large number of sites offered 1 additional internship per year.
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What makes you think that? There has been a general trend toward more sites and spots over the last decade. In the same time, the match rate has gotten worse. For-profit institutions have no incentive to not enroll more students if the market demand for doc training programs tolerates a match rate of, say, 60%; conversely, standard institutions at which more students are a cost (stipend, tuition remission, health plan) rather than a revenue source (more $100k+ tuitions going to the school) would not take more students. If 10% more internship magically appeared, the market would balance by having for-profit institutions up their enrollments; the result would not be a match rate % increase.
 
Got an interview at Hawthorn Center! Notified via email this morning. 🙂
 
Oh, On topic:

Today:

rejection from Iowa State CC (kinda rude, too)
Invite from UF CC
 
"It most certainly is less important to them than it is to the applicant, but there are practical limitations on how quickly rejections can be sent out."

Although it certainly would be time consuming to send out rejections with individual feedback for each applicant, how much time does it really take to type an email address in the BCC line of a form rejection email? Thirty seconds or so? At that rate, even if a site received 300 applications they wanted to reject, it would only take roughly 2 1/2 hours of time to send notices to everyone. That really doesn't seem like too much time to me if it's stretched out over a week (i.e., 1/2 hour day). I don't mean to be disrespectful, and maybe there is more to sending rejections than what it seems.

But, then again, who wants to go to a site that won't take that small amount of time to be courteous enough to provide closure to hopeful, well qualified applicants- doesn't seem like that attitude would bode well for the future interns!

And yes, I'm still waiting for notifications from several sites that sent invitations out over a week ago. It wouldn't bother me if I thought they are still considering my application, but it seems unethical to continue to string along applicants if they are no longer under consideration.
 
cervello said:
So, I know this has been asked a few times but thought I'd throw it out there again... has anyone heard from the neuropsych track at Oklahoma?
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Nothing here either way. Still holding onto some hope :xf: Good luck to you :luck:
 
JockNerd said:
Oh, On topic:

Today:

rejection from Iowa State CC (kinda rude, too)
Invite from UF CC
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That sucks, sorry! I'm almost scared to ask - but what does a rude rejection look/sound like?
 
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FrdLcnKln said:
Would those who have heard mind answering a question for me?

What (interview/rejection) and how (phone call, personalized/mass email) have you heard from the following sites (list tracks if applicable):

Montefiore
Pace CC
Queens Children's
NCB
Jacobi
Beth Israel

Thank you!
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The only site on that list to which I applied was Pace, and I got a personalized invitation via email. Good with the rest of your sites!
 
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nyprincess said:
That sucks, sorry! I'm almost scared to ask - but what does a rude rejection look/sound like?
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Oh, it wasn't really that bad.... they just said that my "level of experience" wasn't a fit for them (several other more competitive sites thought it was, so more evidence to the "luck" aspect of this while process). Could have been phrased better, if I didn't have any interviews that would have stung.
 
Duck Duck Goose said:
If it's an equation, both sides are equally responsible for the "problems." If there were an infinite number of sites, the demand wouldn't be an issue. There aren't enough sites for the current demand. You can say this is because there's too much demand or because there's not enough supply. Blaming one side and excusing the other is not logical.
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There are training programs that have dramatically increased the number internship applicants over the past decade. This was done without a comparable increase in the number internship positions. Supply was greatly increased, without a concurrent increase in demand. The problem was created by the increase on the demand side. Theoretically it can be corrected on the supply side, but practically it cannot.

Duck Duck Goose said:
On the other hand, if it's a training model for the field, then the trainers are responsible for the students/trainees. In that case, sites and programs are responsible for meeting the needs of the trainees. That isn't happening in a lot of cases.
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IMHO, Educational Institutions should be responsible for assuring that all educational needs of the students CAN BE MET. Currently, the final year (~15-20%) of education needs are largely outside the control of the educational institution. Students who have met all their obligations to the Educational Institution (tuition, minimum level of performance, etc.) are being denied the opportunity to complete their educational training. Increasingly high numbers of students are being "weeded-out" at the back end of their training, prohibiting them from being able to recoup the significant costs of their training in a timely manner, if at all.

Duck Duck Goose said:
If it's a business model, I find it difficult to believe that most internships operate at a loss.
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I was saying (or at least attempting to say) that the internship ENDEAVORS operate a net loss, not the entire internship agency. If that were the case, internships would not exist at all without monumental subsidies. This is probably a bigger topic, best saved for another thread.

I sincerely wish all of you the best of luck with applications, interviews, etc.
 
Sites where an interview has been offered
*just added*
12/05 advocate Illinois Masonic medical center - email
12/06 Alaska VA - email
12/12 Alaska Psychology Internship Consortium Alaska Psychiatric Institute - email
11/29 albany internship consortium - phone *12/1*
11/28 Alberta Children's Hospital, Calgary - email
12/08 Allegheny - email
11/29 American Lake - email
12/08 American University CC - phone
12/11 Andrus Children's Center - outpatient - email
12/05 Appalachian State Counseling Center - phone
12/05 appalachian regional healthcare
12/05 Applewood Center - phone *12/06 phone*
12/02 Arkansas Division of Behavioral Health Services - email
12/02 Arkansas State Hospital - email
11/26 Asheville VA Medical Center - phone
12/12 Astor (bronx) - email
11/30 Atascadero - email
12/09ish Aurora Community Mental Health Center
11/17 Baruch College - email
12/09 Battle Creek Michigan VAMC
11/21 Bay Pines VA - email *11/22 invite*
12/07 Baycrest Geriatric - email
11/22 Baylor College of Medicine (Child/Family, Adult/Adolescent, Geropsych track) - email
12/02 Baylor's Adult/Adolescent - email
12/02 Baylor College of Medicine Pediatric Track - email
12/05 Baylor, TCH - email
11/15 Bellevue-NYU (Child and Adolescent) and (Adult Track)- email
11/23 Berea Children's Home and Family Services - email
11/16 Beth Israel/ MMHC - email
12/05 Beth Israel NYC. Adult Track - phone
12/01 Boston Consortium (child, PTSD, general, neuro, inpatient, women's, med psych) - email
11/23 Boston University/The Center for Multicultural Training in Psychology - phone *11/29* *12/01* *12/06*
11/18 Brooke Army Medical Center
12/06 Brooklyn VAMC *12/08*
12/09 Broughton - email
11/28 Brown (Obesity, child clinical, neuro, peds, adult clinical, health psych/bmed, dementia) - email
12/08 Butler University /Aspire Indiana Consortium - email
12/08 Butler Consortium - Butler/Charis - email
12/05 Calgary Clinical Psychology Residency - email *12/08*
11/21 Casa Pacifica - email *11/15 email as well*
1202 Central Alabama Veterans Health Care System - email
11/22 Central Arkansas VA (neuropsych) - email
12/05 central regional hospital - email
12/09 Central Texas VA - email
11/30 Central Virginia Consortium - email
12/02 Central Washington University - phone
12/07 Centre for Addiction and Mental Health in Toronto - email
11/21 Cherokee Health Systems - email
12/09 Chicago Area Christian Training Consortium - email
12/12 Child & Adolscent Behavioral Health
12/09 Child and Family Guidance Center- Northridge - (trauma)
11/14 Children's Hospitals and Clinics of Minnesota - email
12/06 Children's Hospital Los Angeles - email
12/06 Children's Hospital of Colorado - email
11/28 Children's Hospital of Eastern Ontario, Ottawa - email
11/19 Children's Hospital of Michigan
11/30 Children's Hospital of Orange County - email
12/01 Children's Memorial Chicago - email *12/07*
11/15 Children's Mercy - phone
11/22 Children's National Medical Center - phone
11/14 Cincinnati Children's Hospital (BM track) - phone
11/22 Cincinnati VA - email
12/10 Colorado Mental Health Institute - email
12/06 Colorado State's counseling center - phone
11/23 Columbia presbyterian adult track *11/30* *phone*
11/29 Columbia - Child track - phone *12/01 phone*
11/15 Community Healthlink Youth and Family Services (clinical child)
12/05 Comprehensive Outpatient Services - phone
12/05 Connecticut Valley
12/09 Cypress-Fairbanks ISD - email
12/01 Dayton VA - email
11/30 Dallas VA neuropsych - email
12/12 Dallas VA - email
11/18 Dartmouth (child track) - email
11/28 Dartmouth, neuropsych track - email
12/05 Denver VA - phone
12/06 Devereaux Foundation - email
11/18 Didi Hirsch Mental Health Services (adult)
11/22 Didi Hirsch Child and Family track - email
11/21 Duke - Child Clinical Track - email
11/22 Duke University Medical Center - (CBT) and (Health) - email
11/29 Dupont Children' Hospital - email
11/25 Durham VA - email
12/02 Eastern Virginia Medical School - email
11/25 Edmonton Clinical Psychology Consortium Residency - email
11/23 Emory (neuropsychology track) - email *12/09 CC*
11/21 Federal Bureau of Prisons USP Hazelton, FCI Morgantown - email
12/01 FCC Butner
12/02 FCC Petersburg - email
12/09 FCC terre haute - email
12/06 FCI Tallahassee - email
12/08 FMC Lexington
FMC Springfield - email
12/12 FIU CC - phone
12/01 FSU MDC Center - email
12/07 Florida State University - University Counseling Center - email
12/02 Forth Worth ISD Psychological Services - email
12/08 Franciscan - email *12/10 email*
12/11 Fulton State Hospital - email
11/17 Geisinger Medical Center (BMed) - phone
11/29 Geisinger (child track) - Email
11/21 Georgia Health Sciences University/Charlie Norwood VA - phone
12/05 Georgia State Counseling Center - phone
11/29 Gouverneur Healthcare Services - email
11/14 Greater Hartford Clinical Psychology Internship Consortium
11/22 Greystone Park Psychiatric Center
12/07 Hamptom VAMC - email
12/08 Harvard/Children's Hospital Boston
12/12 Hawthorn Center - email
12/09 Hazelden - phone
12/09 Hennepin County Medical Center - email
12/02 Henry Ford Health System (adult neuro) - email *12/05 Consultation-Liaison - email*
12/01 Hines VA *12/05* email *12/09 email*
12/02 Hospital of Sick Children, Toronto
12/02 Illiana VA - email
12/08 Illinois State CC
12/08 Indiana University School of Medicine Department of Psychiatry - email
11/30 Institute of Human Adjustment - email
12/05 Institute of Living/Hartford Hospital - email
11/18 Interfaith Hospital
12/05 Iowa City VA - email
12/08 Jacobi - phone
11/09 James Madison University - phone interview invite *11/28*
James Haley (Tampa VA) - email
12/05 Jesse Brown, neuro - email *12/06 general - email* *12/07*
12/05 Jewish Child and Family Services- IL - email
12/08 Jewish Child Care Association - email
12/01 Kaiser Fresno
12/07 Kaiser LA - email
11/30 Kaiser Permanente- San Diego - email
12/08 Kansas University CC
12/01 Kennedy Krieger Institute (Johns Hopkins) - email
11/17 Kings County Hospital Child Track - personal email
11/23 King's County Adult Track - e-mail
12/09 La Rabida - phone
12/12 Lenox Hill Hospital - email
11/28 Lexington VA - phone
12/07 Lincoln Medical - phone
12/01 Loma Linda VA - email
12/02 London Clinical Psychology Consortium (neuro) - email
12/09 Long Beach VA
11/10 Long Island Jewish (neuropsych) - email
11/29 LIJ child track
12/02 Louisiana School Internship Consortium (LAS*PIC) - email
11/28 LSU health science center - adult track - email *12/08* *12/09 adult/child*
11/28 Lucile Packard (Stanford) - email (re-notification; email sent last week)
12/06 Madigan Army Medical Center - email
11/23 Mailman Center for Child Development (University of Miami) - email *12/05 email*
12/07 Maimonides Medical Center - email *12/12 phone*
12/12 Manatee Glens - Children's Home - email
12/08 Marcus Autism Center
11/28 MGH Child Track - phone
11/29 MGH Adult track - phone and Bmed - email
11/30 MGH/Harvard neuropsych - phone
12/02 Massachusetts General Hospital (CBT Track) - email
11/23 May Institute - email
11/29 McLean - email
11/18 MUSC Charleston Consortium (Trauma) - email *11/21 emailed invite for the Trauma track as well*
11/22 MUSC Charleston Consortium (Child Psychology)
11/11ish MercyFirst (invite sent week of 11/7-11/11) *12/02 phone*
11/28 MEDVAMC (Houston) - email
12/06 Mendota Mental Health Institute - email
12/07 Metropolitan Detention Center- LA - email
12/09 Miami VA - email
12/05 Michigan State University Counseling Center - email
12/02 Millard Health Centre - email
12/12 Milton Hershey - email
11/22 Milwaukee VA - email
11/29 Minneapolis VA - email
12/01 Mississippi State Hospital -phone
11/22 Missouri Health Sciences Consortium (VA track) - phone *11/29 invite?* *12/07 phone* 12/09 Neuropsych-phone*
12/09 Montefiore Medical Center - email
11/30 Mt. Sinai Services/Elmhurst Hospital - email
12/02 Mt. Washington - email
11/21 Mountain Home VA - phone
11/28 Nassau University Medical Center - email
11/17 Nationwide (Pediatric) - email
11/22 Nationwide (Child Clinical) - personal email
12/01 Nationwide (IDD) - email
11/28 Nebraska Internship Consortium (NICPP) - email
11/28 NJ VA at the East Orange campus - phone
11/28 New York Presbyterian (Cornell Medical) - email
12/01 Northeast Florida State Hospital - email
12/06 Northeastern Oklahoma Psychology Internship Program - email
12/12 Northern AZ VA - email
12/12 Northport VAMC - email
12/05 Northwestern SOM - phone
12/09 Northwestern CAPS - email
12/12 Nova Southeastern University PSC - email
12/06 Ohio Psychology Internship forensic - email
12/01 Oklahoma Health Consortium - email
12/09 Ontario Shores - email
12/01 OU Health Sciences (adult, child) - email
12/01 Oregon Health & Science University - email
11/28 Ottawa hospital - neuropsychology - email
11/29 Ottawa hospital - track 1: mental health - email
12/07 Otis Bowen Center - email
11/27 Pace University CC
12/02 Pacific Clinics *12/06*
12/07 Palo Alto VA - email
12/12 Park Place Behavioral Health Care - email
12/11 Pennsylvania Hospital - email
Philhaven Hospital
11/17 Phoenix Children's - email
12/07 Phoenix VA - email
11/28 Pilgrim Psychiatric - email
12/03 Pine Grove Treatment Center - phone
11/30 Pine Rest Christian Mental Health Services - email
11/22 Pittsburgh VA - email
12/09 Primary Children's Center (ped/beh health) - email
12/05 Portland State University Student Health and Counseling Center - email
12/08 Portland VAMC - email
12/09 Primary Children's Hospital - email
12/08 Princeton House Behavioral Health, ED track - email
12/07 Queens Children's Psychiatric Center - email
12/06 QEII - email
11/21 The Reading Hospital and Medical Center - email
12/07 Richard L. Roudebush VAMC - email
12/09 Richmond vamc - email
12/02 Robert J. Murney Clinic with Forest Institute - email
11/08 Rochester BOP - mass email
11/28 Royal Ottawa Health Care Group's and at Brockville - email
11/09 Rush University Medical Center (neuropsych) - e-mail invite
11/17 Rush (Bmed) - email
11/28 Rush Medical Center Child/Adol track - email
12/10 St. Johns Child and Family Development Center - email *12/12*
12/09 St. Joseph's - Hamilton ON - email
12/08 St. Louis Psych Internship consortium - email
12/09 St. Louis VAMC - email
11/21 St. Luke's Hospital (Adult general) - email ***INVITES ROLLING***
11/30 St. Luke's - Child track - phone
12/10 St. Luke's Roosevelt - child - phone *12/12*
11/23 Salem VA - phone
12/06 Salesmanship Club Youth and Family Services - email
12/05 Salisbury - W. G. (Bill) Hefner VA Medical Center - email
12/05 salt lake city va - email *12/06 email*
11/29 San Jose State University - email
11/22 Sarah Reed Children's Center - phone
11/29 Seattle VA - email
11/25 Sepulveda VA - email
12/10 Shared Vision Psychological Services
11/28 Spring Grove Hospital - email
11/28 South Texas VA - email
12/09 Southeast Louisiana VHCS - email
12/07 Southern Arizona VA Health Care System - email
12/09 Southern Arizona Psychology Internship Program - email
12/02 12/02 Southwest Consortium Predoctoral Psychology Internship (SCPPI) - email
South Shore Mental Health, Quinsy MA - email
12/03 South Shore- (Adults, Child/Adol) - email
11/18 SUNY Upstate Medical University, Adult Track -email
11/28 SUNY Upstate (Child) - email
12/08 Stony Brook University counseling center - email
12/02 Suffolk University CC - personal email
12/12 Superior Court of DC Child Guidance Clinic - email
12/01 Syracuse VA - email
12/01 Tarzana Treatment Center
12/02 Texas Tech University Student Counseling Center - email
12/09 Texas Woman's University CC - phone
12/12 Togus VA - email
12/09 Towson University CC - email
12/12 Trinitas - email
12/02 University of Akron Counseling Center - phone
11/21 University of Alabama - Birmingham (adult) and (child) - email
11/28 University of Arizona neuropsych track - email *12/06*
11/17 University of Arkansas Med School (Adult)
11/18 University of Arkansas Medical Center, Child Focused Track
12/01 UC Berkeley CAPS - phone
12/09 UC Davis CAARE - phone
12/02 UCLA-Semel - email
12/12 UC Merced - phone
12/12 UC Riverside CAPS - email
11/22 UCSD/VA - phone (**more calls to be made between now and Monday**)
11/07 UCSF Child and Adolescent Services
11/20 UCSF Public Services and Minority Cluster - email *11/29*
12/09 University of Central Florida (UCF) Counseling Center
11/21 University of Chicago Medical Center (Weight and Eating Disorder) and (adult neuropsych) - email
11/22 U of Chicago Medical Center - Adult track - email
11/21 U of Chicago Medical Center - child track - email
11/28 University of Delaware counseling center
11/10 University of Florida (BMed) and (neuro)- mass e-mail invite *Clinical and health psych 11/10* *12/12 CC*
11/15 UIC Dept. of Psychiatry (child clinical) - email
11/17 UIC (Adult) - email
11/18 University of KS- School of Medicine - email
11/21 University of Louisville SOM - email *12/12*
11/24 University of Manitoba ( Health Neuro, Rural & Northern Streams) - email *11/25 child* *12/06 Adult - email* *12/12*
12/09 UMass Medical/Worcester - phone (local)
11/29 umdnj-piscataway (child track) - phone and email
12/02 UMDNJ Piscataway-Clinica Latina Adult track - email
12/06 University of Medicine and Dentistry of NJ - newark - email
12/02 UMass Amherst Center for Counseling and Psychological Health -email
11/28 University of Memphis - University Counseling Center - phone
11/28 UMiami Counseling Center - phone*11/29 phone*
12/01 UM/Jackson Memorial
12/10 University of Michigan CC - phone
12/01 University of Minnesota Medical School - email
12/01 University of Mississippi Medical Center/V.A. Medical Center Consortium - email
12/07 University of Missouri's Counseling Center - email
12/05 UNM Health Sciences Center - email
11/30 UNC SOM *12/01 Butner
12/12 UNC CC
12/12 U New Hampshire CC - email
12/12 University of North Dakota Counseling Center -email
12/08 University of Notre Dame CC
11/22 UPenn (Pennsylvania Hospital) - email (*ROLLING INVITES*) *12/08 Counseling Center - email*
12/02 University of Pittsburgh Counseling Center
11/29 University of Puget Sound
11/28 University of Rochester Medical Center Child Track - email
12/05 university of rochester counseling center - email
12/11 USC Counseling Center - phone
11/26 UT Health Science Center - email *12/08* email
12/03 University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio - email
11/21 University of Utah, Neuropsychiatric Institute - email
12/05ish University of Virginia Counseling Center - phone
12/07 UWashington SOM - phone *12/08* *12/09* *12/12 bmed/neuro*
11/17 Utah State Hospital - email
11/25 Vanderbilt (neuropsych) and (VA Tenn. Valley) - email
11/28 Vanderbilt (adult psychiatry - email
12/09 Vanderbilt Child and Adolescent - personal email
VA Central Western Healthcare System, Northampton Campus
12/12 VA Connecticut Healthcare System (General MH) - email
12/12 VA Eastern Kansas HCS, Leavenworth - email
11/18 VA Medical Center, Salem - phone
11/30 VAMHCS/UMB Consortium infant studies - email
12/01 VAMHCS/UMB Consortium (trauma, health, women's
12/01 Veterans Affairs NY Harbor Health Care System- Manhattan Campus - email *12/02*
12/06 VA Northern California - Martinez - email
12/08 VA Puget Sound - email
12/12 Virginia Commonwealth U CC - email
12/08 VTech CC
12/07 Washington DC Medical Center - phone
12/01 West LA VA - email
12/12 West Palm Beach VAMC - email
12/08 Westchester Jewish ommunity Services - phone
12/02 Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic (WPIC) - email
11/28 Western State Hospital - email
12/09 Western Washington University CC
11/30 Western Youth Services
12/12 Wichita Collaborative Psychology Internship Program- KUSM-W - email
11/21 Wisconsin-Madison DOP (General Psych) *12/05 Health track phone*
12/01 Wisconsin Department of Corrections - email
11/17 White River Junction VA - phone
12/09 WCPIP, Comcare - email
12/11 Woodhull - email
11/21 Yale University School of Medicine (Hispanic Clinic and Outpatient Services) - phone
11/30 Yale - email *12/12 Bmed - email*
12/01 Yale U SOM (The Consultation Center) - email
12/02 Yale (inpatient track) *SPAM BOX*
12/05 Yale young adult- phone
12/06 yale Stress center - phone
12/08 Yale Child Study - phone
12/12 Youth Opportunity Center - email

Sites where a rejection has already been sent
12/06 Alaska VA Healthcare System Psychology Internship Program
12/01 Alberta Children's Hospital
12/11 Andrus
12/07 Appalachian State University CC
12/08 Applewood Center
12/02 Arkansas Division of Behavioral Health Services
11/22 Asheville VA *11/29*
12/10 Astor Services for Children and Families *SNAIL MAIL*
12/10 Battlecreek VA
12/12 Baylor/Menninger (Depelchin)
12/05 Bellevue Hospital - Adult Track, Child/Adol *12/06*
11/28ish Beth Israel *12/02*
12/12 Black Hills VA *NOT INVITED FOR INTERVIEW BUT STILL RANKED*
12/06 BC Children's Hospital
12/01 Boston Consortium
11/28 Brown (adult bmed)
12/08 Brooklyn VA
11/23 Casa Pacifica *11/30*
12/07 Center for Behavioral Medicine
12/05 Central Arkansas VA
12/12 Central Regional Hospital
12/02 Central Washing University
12/08 Cherokee Health Systems
12/06 Children's Hospital Los Angeles
12/06 Children's Hospital of Colorado
11/30 Children's Hospital of Michigan *rolling rejection 10/day*
11/18 Children's Memorial Hospital *12/07*
11/18 Children's Mercy
12/01 Children's National
11/21 Cincinnati Children's Hospital (Child Clinical)
11/22 Cincinnati VA
12/12 Colorado State University Counseling Center
12/09 Community Healthlink Youth and Family Services
12/08 Connecticut/River Valley Mental Health Center - email
12/09 Dallas ISD
12/01 Danielson Institute
11/19 Dartmouth
11/18 Denver Health *11/21 for adult*
12/01 Didi Hirsch
12/12 Division of Prevention and Behavioral Health/Terry Children's Psychiatric Center
11/27 Duke University CAPS
12/10 DuPage County Health Department
11/30 Durham VA
12/12 Duke
12/02 EVMS
11/29 Edmonton Consortium
12/12 Emory CC
12/07 Family Services and Guidance Center
11/22 Federal Bureau of Prisons USP Hazelton, FCI Morgantown
12/08 FCC Butner
12/12 FCC Terre Haute
FCI Tallahassee
12/08 FMC Lexington
11/30 FSU counseling center
12/08 Franciscan Children's Hospital
12/12 Fulton State Hospital
12/12 Georgia Health Sciences University/Charlie Norwood VA - waiting list
12/01 Greater Hartford Clinical Psychology Internship Consortium
11/22 Greystone Park Psychiatric Center
12/07 Hamptom VAMC
12/06 Harvard/Children's Hospital Boston *12/08*
12/06 Harvard/ MGH, child, bmed, cbt
12/12 Hawthorn
12/05 Hefner VA
11/29 Henry Ford Health System
12/09 Hines VA
11/22 Holcomb Behavioral Health
12/09 IWK Health Centre
12/09 Illiana VA
Interfaith
12/12 Iowa State CC
12/09 James A Haley (Tampa) VA
11/28 James Madison University *11/30*
12/05 Jewish Child and Family Services
12/08 JBFCS
12/06 John Dingell VAMC (Detroit)
12/01 Johns Hopkins University CC
12/08 Kaiser Fresno
12/12 Kaiser Los Angeles
12/05 Kaiser SD
12/01 Kennedy Krieger Institute (Johns Hopkins)
11/15 Kings Country Hospital Center *12/09*
12/09 Kingsbrook Jewish Medical Center
12/10 La Rabida **SNAIL MAIL**
12/08 Lancaster Genderal
12/12 Lenox Hill Hospital
11/30 Lexington VA *12/05*
12/02 London Consortium
12/09 Long Beach VA
11/30 LSU *12/12 adult*
11/30 LIJ (child track) *12/05 Neuro*
12/05 Lucile Packard
12/07 Maimonides
11/25 Massachusetts Mental Health Center *11/27*
12/12 McGuire VA
11/30 McLean
12/07 Metropolitan LA
12/09 Miami VA
12/12 Milton Hershey School
11/22 Milwaukee VA
11/29 Minneapolis VA - email
12/12 Montefiore (adult, child)
11/22 Mt. Gretna
12/09 Mt. Washington
12/12 NUMC
11/16 Nationwide Children's Hospital (Pediatric) and (Neuropsych) - mass email
11/23 Nationwide (Clinical Child)
11/23 Nebraska Internship Consortium in Professional Psychology
12/12 New Orleans VA
11/29 NY Presbyterian/Cornell
12/12 North Central Bronx
12/08 Northern California VA
12/09 Northport VAMC
12/09 Northwestern CC
12/08 Notre Dame CC
12/02 Oregon Health & Science University
11/29 Ottawa Hospital
12/09 Pace CC
12/07 Palo Alto VA
12/09 Penn State Counseling Center
12/06 Phoneix Children's
12/02 Pacific Clinics
12/11 Pennsylvania Hospital
Philhaven Hospital
12/05 Pine Grove
11/29 Pitt VA
11/23 Portland VA
12/09 Princeton House Behavioral Health - email
12/06 QEII
12/01 Reading Hospital
11/29 Regina Qu'Appelle Health Region
11/17 Rochester BOP
11/10 Rush University (neuropsych?)
11/17 Rush University (BMed)
11/30 Rush (child track)
12/09 Rusk
12/09 St. John's Child & Family Development Center
12/01 St. Luke's Roosevelt (child)
12/02 Salt Lake VA *12/05*
11/28 San Francisco VA *12/05* *12/12*
11/28 SJSU
12/07 Santa Ana College
12/01 South Texas VA
12/12 SE Louisiana Veteran's Health Care System (NOLA)
12/07 Southern Arizona VA Health Care System
12/02 Southwest Consortium Predoctoral Psychology Internship (SCPPI)
11/21 Spring Grove Hospital
11/29 Stanford Counseling Center
12/02 Suffolk University *12/02 CAPS*
12/09 Texas A&M CC
12/06 Texas Children's Hospital
12/02 Texas Tech University CC
12/12 Trinitas
12/07 Tripler Army Medical Center (TAMC)
12/09 Towson University CC - email
12/12 U.S. Medical Center for Federal Prisoners - email
12/12 U.S. Medical Center in Springfield
11/21 University of Alabama - Birmingham - email
12/08 UC Davis CAARE
12/01 UCLA - Semel Institute
11/25 UCSD/VA - email
12/08 U Chicago
12/02 University of Delaware CC
12/12 University of Idaho Counseling
11/30 University of Illinois at Chicago
12/02 University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
12/09 University of Iowa
11/30 University of Maryland *12/09 CC*
12/06 UMass Counseling Center
11/30 Univ of Miami/Jackson Memorial Hospital
12/12 UMiami UCC
12/08 University of Michigan CC
11/30 University of Mississippi Medical Center/V.A. Consortium
12/01 University of Minnesota Medical School
12/05 University of New Mexico Health Sciences Center, pediatric neuropsych
12/12 Univ. North Carolina Counseling Center
11/28 UNC School of Medicine (adult bmed, eating disorder)
11/22 University of Oregon Counseling and Testing Center
12/08 UPenn CC
12/02 University of Pittsburgh Counseling Center
12/08 U. South Carolina CC
12/08 UT Knoxville CC
12/12 UVA student health
12/12 UWashington
11/28 University of Wisconsin -- Health Psych track *12/05*
12/02 University of Wisconsin-Madison Center for Health Sciences 12/07 Couneling Center
11/17 Utah State Hospital - email
12/06 Utah State University Counseling Center
12/12 Vancouver Coastal Health - email
12/07 VA Eastern Colorado HCS
11/30 VAMHCS/UMB Psychology Internship Consortium
12/01 Veterans Affairs NY Harbor Health Care System- Manhattan Campus
11/29 VA Puget Sound-American Lake
12/08 VA Puget Sound
12/08 VTech CC
12/12 Virginia Treatment Center for Children
12/12 Washington State University
12/01 West LA VA
11/16 Westchester Jewish Community Services (in Spam folder) *11/30* * 12/01*
12/12 Western Psych and Counseling Services
12/09 Wichita Collaborative Psychology Internship Program
12/08 William and Mary college counseling center
12/06 Winnipeg Residency
12/09 Western Psychiatric Institute and Clinic
12/01 Wisconsin Department of Corrections
12/07 Yale Dept of Psychiatry
12/08 Yale Adult Clinical Service
12/08 Yale Child Study Center; Trauma track
12/09 Yale CMHC Neuropsych
12/12 Yale adolscent

IMPORTANT DATES:

12/15 last day for MOST interview invites notification
2/8 last day for ranking internship sites
2/24 MATCH DAY
3/1 Submission for MATCH PHASE II
3/19 Submission of ranking for MATCH PHASE II
3/26 MATCH PHASE II DAY
 
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Benny386 said:
I'm still waiting on Woodhull - their APPIC website said we'd be informed by 12/9. Did anybody else hear from them? Perhaps they aren't sending out rejections :-\
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I got a rejection from Stony Brook a day after their official notification deadline listed on the APPIC directory, so it's still possible you'll hear from them. Not sure if that's any consolation . . . 🙁
 
Just got my rejection email for VCU. That's 4 rejections, 1 probable rejection, 1 interview and 2 sites left to hear from. Boo.
 
dharmapsy said:
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Although it certainly would be time consuming to send out rejections with individual feedback for each applicant, how much time does it really take to type an email address in the BCC line of a form rejection email? Thirty seconds or so? At that rate, even if a site received 300 applications they wanted to reject, it would only take roughly 2 1/2 hours of time to send notices to everyone. That really doesn't seem like too much time to me if it's stretched out over a week (i.e., 1/2 hour day).
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No argument from me on these points. It is common courtesy and should be done.
 
FrdLcnKln said:
Would those who have heard mind answering a question for me?

What (interview/rejection) and how (phone call, personalized/mass email) have you heard from the following sites (list tracks if applicable):

Montefiore
Pace CC
Queens Children's
NCB
Jacobi
Beth Israel

Thank you!
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Haven't heard from Montefiore adult.
Rejection via email from Pace
Haven't heard from NCB
Invite via phone call from Jacobi (I wonder if they just have their interviews with NCB?)

Didn't apply to the others.

PLUS - Just got a personal rejection from NUMC via email.

Oh, well. Long Island is too far anyways. 🙂
 
Received a personalized email invitation to interview at the VA Connecticut Healthcare System. I applied to the General Mental Health Track.
 
Duke just sent out a well-timed rejection email (based on the discussion from this thread). Definitely knew this one was on its way. 🙁
 
Just received the Duke rejection via e-mail. They have chosen to interview other applicants for their internship...... 🙂
 
Hello, I've been lurking on here for the past couple of weeks but thought I'd finally post something. 🙂

Update on my end on a site that I haven't seen posted-

Rejection from Vancouver Coastal Health addressed to "Dear Psychology Resident Applicant" via email on December 9.

Still waiting on 3 sites. :xf:
 
Team Kakashi said:
I thought someone posted about the U of Louisville School of Med but I just got a personalized invitation to interview for the Child Clinical and Pediatric track.

Hope more good news is on the way! Hang in there everybody!
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Are you sure it's a "track"? I'm pretty sure UofL doesn't have tracks. I'm really confused. The internship program itself is called the Child Clinical / Pediatric Psychology Internship Program at UofL.
 
kaelynay said:
Interesting... I never thought about it that way. Most of my experience is outpatient with children and families, and some experience with SMI adults (outpatient as well). I tried to phrase my CL that I was looking to increase my experience working with relationship issues and anxiety. All my LORs, however, focus on my work with children (and their families). I would love to gain experience working with young adults, though.
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I bet that contributed to weaker evaluations at CCs, depending on how you phrased it. Even if *you* sincerely meant you wanted to do an internship at the CC and would enjoy it, this is one of those things CCs see as a red flag ("does applicant think we just counsel 18 year old girls who broke up with their boyfriend?"). Also if you didn't focus hard on work with diverse populations, CCs would see that as negative.

I bet you're a stellar applicant, and it was just those fit/perception issues.
 
Received personalized email to interview for Yale- Adolescent Track.

Received a not personalized email to interview at Astor, Bronx location.
 
Just received a mass email rejection from University of Washington Medical Center, child track addressed "Dear Internship Applicant". . . "over 250 applications for 12 positions"

3 invites, 8 rejections, 4 left to go🙁
 
layleh said:
Unfortunately, even highly capable, qualified students from these massive programs are rejected sheerly by virtue of the name of their school at times. I regret not being able to relocate to a better program. I am scared that it will bite me in the butt despite strong credentials.
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Yep, thats the case. No doubt. Seeing my faculty/supervisors go through applicants now, we have programs that we just dont look at. I think most of you can guess the names though.

The rationaliation is, "we have to be able to make a couple massive cuts right from the start and hours and programs that we think suck are the easiest way to do that." 🙄 I'm just one VA though...but lord knows how many other sites apply the same unapologetic strategy?
 
Just got a phone call invitation for St Luke's/Roosevelt...these invites have been rolling for a long time now, so good news for those of you still waiting. Sounds like they have Dec 15, Jan 5, and Jan 11 still available (maybe other dates, too, but I scheduled Jan 11 so she didn't mention the other dats. I believe they advertised Jan 13 on their site materials.) 😀😀😀
 
Email rejection from Montefiore adult...kind of expected it, they said they received 406 applications for their 6 slots. It looked like a mass email, not personalized.
 
JockNerd said:
What makes you think that? There has been a general trend toward more sites and spots over the last decade. In the same time, the match rate has gotten worse. For-profit institutions have no incentive to not enroll more students if the market demand for doc training programs tolerates a match rate of, say, 60%; conversely, standard institutions at which more students are a cost (stipend, tuition remission, health plan) rather than a revenue source (more $100k+ tuitions going to the school) would not take more students. If 10% more internship magically appeared, the market would balance by having for-profit institutions up their enrollments; the result would not be a match rate % increase.
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Math makes me think that. 😛 If X sites offer A number of internships and there are Y applicants and match rate is (X*A)/Y, increasing A will increase the match rate. Increasing Y will decrease the match rate. All these numbers have been increasing, with Y increasing much more than X*A.

There may not be an incentive for for-profit programs not to enroll more students (let's assume worst case type program and faculty for this discussion) but there is no reason that students would suddenly attend these programs in higher numbers. Programs can't up their enrollments without willing students. Where would these students come from? Is there a large, untapped source of people willing to pay 120k for 4 years of education followed by at least 3 years of limited pay and non-licensure, concluding with a 70k salary ideal? (My numbers may be slightly off but I think they're in the right ballpark) If these untapped students exist, how many of them will stick with their plans long enough to apply to internship? Without knowing how many people would attend for-profit programs, we can't assume that that increase would contribute an unfixable (for lack of a better word 😛 ) increase of internship applicants to the match situation/imbalance.

Match rates for some programs (or at least one) are, I think, in the 40s. What happens to the students that don't match? I'd say most of those students probably don't wind up with an internship, even after a few times around (again, based on math). Do they keep trying until they successfully match (and "take" a spot from a student with a smaller cohort) or do they do something else? I don't know. I'd like more info on that.

If 10% more internships appeared, we can't say that that increase would automatically be negated by increased enrollment in for-profit schools. We just don't know how many more students would attend these schools, if any. How many students at these schools consider the internship match rates when deciding to attend or not? Again, we don't know (or at least I'm not familiar with research on that topic).

If 10% more internships appeared tomorrow, the match rate next year (and for the next 3-4 years) would certainly increase. If 20% more internships appeared tomorrow, the match rate next year might be very close to 100%. Woohoo! Does this solve the problem underlying the match imbalance? No. Again, it needs to be a two-side solution.

It seems that the APA has recognized the importance of the supply side of the equation by requiring a cohort at each site for accreditation (i.e., more than one internship per site). I wonder if this inadvertently decreased the number of internships available (e.g., if sites would be able to meet requirements for one intern but can only afford to pay one stipend).

I think that solutions targeting both sides of the equation have the most hope of working (e.g., if a program's match rate is <2 SD below average, they can't admit more than the number of students that they successfully matched in the past year or they lose accreditation AND sites need to add at least one internship per 10 years to maintain accreditation or something similar... I haven't thought these solutions through, they're just examples).

Good luck everyone! :luck:
 
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