2013-2014 APPIC (internship) interview thread

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I know someone received an invite from the University of Delaware Counseling Center-----did anyone received a rejection? I have not heard either way and I am wondering if rejections were also sent out. I'm asking because in the last two years, after invitations were sent out----rejection notification followed.
 
Wait, they explicitly say for Ann Arbor that you won't be wearing a nametag?
 
They could be SO much more specific. Is it past experience matching up well with the site? Training goals? Research interests? Research experience? A certain hours threshold? These things would actually be REALLY helpful to know.

All of the variable you list are part of the "fit" algorithm I think, along with the sense of connection/personality fit that exists in an interview, when it comes to final ranking.

Some sites do a better job than others in articulating what they seek, and candidates do a variable job in assessing the degree of their "match" to a site. (For example, what a site sees as "progress on the dissertation" may be different from the students' perspective; similarly for fit between research interests across sites). And it IS hard as a student to have perspective on who else is out there in the applicant pool.

Fit is somewhat ineffable (from both sides I think)--but it IS anchored in the elements Cara Susanna described, mediated by elements related to theoretical or practice models of site supervisors. TDs and clinical faculty are trying to find candidates who can come to that specific site and be ready to work well there. The imbalance does mean that there are too many good candidates for everyone to find the places they want this year. And there are candidates who enter this ordeal prematurely, relative to other candidates. (You will read their stories here as they have many more interview this year than last.)
 
I'm doing some prep for interviews and going through a lot of the "questions you may be asked". One of the questions is about an ethical problem/dilemma you've faced and how you handled it. I'm curious if people might be willing to share examples of ethical problems/dilemmas? I'm not entirely sure what I would answer with because whenever I've had reviews completed by supervisors, they have always selected "n/a" for how I've handled ethical dilemmas because they don't believe any ethical problems have come up. Any thoughts?
 
Personalized (my name) rejection from Appalachian State UCC on 12/8 at 4:45pm.
 
I'm doing some prep for interviews and going through a lot of the "questions you may be asked". One of the questions is about an ethical problem/dilemma you've faced and how you handled it. I'm curious if people might be willing to share examples of ethical problems/dilemmas? I'm not entirely sure what I would answer with because whenever I've had reviews completed by supervisors, they have always selected "n/a" for how I've handled ethical dilemmas because they don't believe any ethical problems have come up. Any thoughts?

I was thinking of working with a client that I didn't have a lot of training on...that there might have been some issues with competencies that may be viewed "unethical" ....something to that effect. So working with severe eating disorders clients but didn't have much training on it....via supervision and consultation, that those were enough according to your supervisor. OR maybe some crisis work..(suicide) something like that. I hope this helps...
 
How can an open house not be influential or evaluative? That seems pretty much impossible.

Plus, what the hell do the two sets of folks talk about there? Basketweaving and sunshine? If you talk about psych, its informative, trust me....

I know at least one program where it is entirely one-sided. i.e. "Open house" consists of attending presentations by faculty about the different rotations, tours, etc. they do not allow students to actually schedule 1 on 1 meetings with faculty. That said - I would be surprised if it couldn't still have SOME bearing on applications (i.e. if one person is being really irritating the whole time and asking ridiculous questions...I'm sure they would figure it out).

My plan is simple - do what they tell me and when in doubt err on the side of more conservative. Assume "Open House" means interview unless a site makes it explicit that is not the case (as in the site above).
 
RE: "Fit" - it is certainly a somewhat nebulous/abstract concept but so is "cognition" and most everything else we deal with in this field. It just involves a whole lot of different pieces that all tie together and what those are varies by site. So far I really only have one "surprise" rejection (its not a rejection yet, but I'm assuming). Otherwise it pretty much fell along exactly what I would predict my acceptances/rejections to be if I did it in advance (and sorta did since I had some idea of rankings in mind prior to visiting and sure enough its the bottom of the list I'm getting rejections from). We see it every year in my program where we are encouraged to tack on a few "safeties" that inevitably do not even interview us. I think fit is just a broad term. It encompasses credentials...you probably aren't a good "fit" for Brown with zero publications and zero posters no matter what else you have. Yet you could have lots of publications and still not fit if your research interests don't align, they think your essays are off the mark, etc. Its obviously important or we wouldn't be having this discussion, but I don't think a precise definition is ever going to be out there.

RE: capping sites...sure, I think it makes sense given the absurd numbers I hear the weaker schools are encouraging people to apply to (the local Argosy recommends 25, so I'm sure some break 30). Its just a bandaid and doesn't address the underlying issue though, which is the same one it always was. Someone mentioned it doesn't really "level the playing field" since it isn't level to begin with. Of course no playing field is completely level, but I think that is an easy way to help level things out so that things that matter (quality of training/experiences) play more of a role and things like who is willing to spend the most money/time on applications play less of a role. Much like the research/grants system I think the problem is emphasizing quantity over quality. Capping applications is small help, but I do think it would help everyone.
 
One of the questions is about an ethical problem/dilemma you've faced and how you handled it. I'm curious if people might be willing to share examples of ethical problems

I interpret this question to be rather broad, so it could include something that happened with a client, a supervisor, a fellow student, or a professor. It could include something from your clinical, research, or academic work. Think back over your graduate school experience and try to remember an interpersonal situation which occurred in any of the above areas that left you feeling uncomfortable where at least one ethical principle was at risk. The most important thing is that you show your decision making process, ideally grounded in one of the models if ethical decision making. If you can find a situation when you sought consultation that would be ideal because sites want to see that you recognize when you need help and are willing to seek it. That way, you're more likely to seek help from them when you run into an ethical issue if you do an internship there. Hope that helps!
 
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I know someone received an invite from the University of Delaware Counseling Center-----did anyone received a rejection? I have not heard either way and I am wondering if rejections were also sent out. I'm asking because in the last two years, after invitations were sent out----rejection notification followed.

I haven't received any word from the University of Delaware either way. I know my cohort member/friend has already received an invite, and is attending her interview this week! So I have no idea what that all means. But I'm right with you!
 
I was thinking of working with a client that I didn't have a lot of training on...that there might have been some issues with competencies that may be viewed "unethical" ....something to that effect. So working with severe eating disorders clients but didn't have much training on it....via supervision and consultation, that those were enough according to your supervisor. OR maybe some crisis work..(suicide) something like that. I hope this helps...
you can also relate ethical dilemmas or concerns to the principles- i had a situation that was technically not violating an ethical standard but i could relate it to acting with integrity, etc..
 
How can an open house not be influential or evaluative? That seems pretty much impossible.

Plus, what the hell do the two sets of folks talk about there? Basketweaving and sunshine? If you talk about psych, its informative, trust me....
I have heard that everything we do in this process is evaluative. Including how we interact with EVERYONE. The schedulers, the security people at the site, interns at the site that we know from our own programs. It is all part of the evaluation, whether it is formal or not.
 
I don't know about that...I certainly don't lack in the confidence dept and I usually over-dress when attending a work-related function...well, let me clarify...I stylishly over-dress. I always equate this topic of dress to professionalism. I grew up around a bunch of doctors who wore nothing but suits. Also I'm from an immigrant family so perhaps I'm more up-tight than lacking confidence. I say set the bar high and strive for it. Medical residents (our soon to be comrades) are all suiting it up at this stage (and beyond).

Ultimately, I agree to go with the recommendation of the site - no tie, then no tie it is. But you'd find me find me looking well-pressed with some professional flare. And I may seem over-dressed to some because it's a personal value.
I completely agree. It's important to dress for the job you want, rather than the job you have.
 
Hi all,

Some minor updates/corrections to the list:

-Fixed the spacing

-Added invites for Lexington VA, Central Iowa VA, and Portland State University

-Deleted the info for Ohio State UCC, as that was not correct and an error on my part

-Clarified what tracks got invites at Jacson Medical

-Added a rejection for Appalachian State UCC and a rejection for Trinitas
 
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Hi all,

Some minor updates/corrections to the list:

-Fixed the spacing

-Added invites for Lexington VA, Central Iowa VA, and Portland State University

-Deleted the info for Ohio State UCC, as that was not correct and an error on my part

-Clarified what tracks got invites at Jacson Medical

-Added a rejection for Appalachian State UCC
Thank you so much for all your hard work!
 
Mass rejection from Andrus- Campus track.
Sunday 12/8. 🙁

Added; thanks for the info but sorry to hear. What is with all these sites notifying on the weekends?

Also, I've noticed UCCs seem much more likely than other sites to offer phone/Skype interviews. Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any idea why?
 
Added; thanks for the info but sorry to hear. What is with all these sites notifying on the weekends?

Also, I've noticed UCCs seem much more likely than other sites to offer phone/Skype interviews. Just out of curiosity, does anyone have any idea why?

I have heard they are trying to level the playing field by removing financial barriers for applicants to interview...Skype just doesn't seem as informative as in person though.
 
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I have heard they are trying to level the playing field by removing financial barriers for applicants to interview...Skype just doesn't seem as informative as in person though.

Yeah. Many UCC's really value social justice and don't want to allow those with financial means to have an advantage over those that don't. I think it's pretty sweet. Some sites I applied to don't offer any on site interviews at all.
 
Yeah. Many UCC's really value social justice and don't want to allow those with financial means to have an advantage over those that don't. I think it's pretty sweet. Some sites I applied to don't offer any on site interviews at all.


Nearly all of the sites I'm applying to only do phone or Skype. I like that on terms of the level playing field and the minimal disruption to my schedule, but I would also like to see a place in person before I rank. It seems like the majority have open houses, though, and some of them go as far as holding the open house after they've already made their decisions so that your attendance or lack thereof doesn't influence them. That's a pretty classy way to do it, I think.
 
I wish AMCs would do phone or Skype interviews. I asked about doing a phone interview for one of my furthest-away sites after seeing that a round trip flight would be nearly $500. This site even had something about "in person or phone interview" on their internship website. But I was told that an in-person interview was required if I would like to still be considered for their internship. This process is going to be realllllly expensive :-/
 
Agreed about UCCs and Skype interviews. I feel like most of my sites don't offer on site interviews. It makes my life a lot easier.

Here's to a week full of good news! Good luck everyone!
 
Emory School of Medicine rejection for Neuro Track
Generic email received at 10:35pm on a Sunday night....yeesh.
 
I am waiting to hear from Phoenix Children's Hospital (I know invites and rejections were sent out). I was looking back at their website, which says,
"You will be notified by e-mail when your completed application has been received." I was not notified and worry that this means that they never actually received my completed app. I am wondering if anyone who applied there was actually notified when their app was received. Also, is anyone still waiting to hear from this site?
No notification re completed app, and still waiting to hear... you're not alone
 
No matter how bad this process is, at least remember that getting to the application process itself is an accomplishment--you made it through practicum, coursework, dissertation proposals, theses, etc. And as much as it does suck, I'd imagine that it must suck less than getting kicked out probably would.
 
No matter how bad this process is, at least remember that getting to the application process itself is an accomplishment--you made it through practicum, coursework, dissertation proposals, theses, etc. And as much as it does suck, I'd imagine that it must suck less than getting kicked out probably would.

How's *that* for a positive reframe? 😉
 
I have heard that everything we do in this process is evaluative. Including how we interact with EVERYONE. The schedulers, the security people at the site, interns at the site that we know from our own programs. It is all part of the evaluation, whether it is formal or not.

I'd say that, at least in my experience, it's basically just like grad school interviews; sort of an, "anything you say can and will be used against you" situation. Not necessarily in as punitive a sense as that, but if you're exceedingly rude in interacting with folks at the site and it's noticed, then yes, it will likely be factored into your ranking decision. Beyond that, though, I really doubt anyone's going to be handing out interviewee rating forms to security guards, the people who delivered lunch, etc. Just do what you'd normally do anyway--conduct yourself professionally, treat everyone with respect, be genuinely interested in the site, and you'll be fine.

As for capping the number of applications--as with Ollie, I'd support it. It's not going to level the playing field in all respects, but in reality, I don't think the playing field should be leveled all-around; some people are simply going to be better-prepared, better-trained, and/or will have stronger CVs than others. And that's ok. We all make choices with respect to which programs we attend and how we spend our time while there, and folks should be rewarded for being efficient/productive and/or going above and beyond in their training. In my mind, though, capping the number of applications would at least take some amount of pressure off of applicants, since then those folks who might be thinking that they need to apply to 20-25 sites instead of the 15-17 on which they were initially planning wouldn't have to worry about it because no one can apply to more than XX programs. As was previously mentioned, it'd also reduce the review burden on sites, which (at least in my experience) want to spend more time than they're sometimes able looking over applications.
 
Invite by generic email to Mendota Mental Health Institute on 12/5 - interview dates 1/21, 1/24, 1/27
Invite by personal email to Corizon Behavioral Health at Wabash Valley Correctional Facility on 12/6 - interviews on 12/19, 12/20, 1/10
 
For those with interviews at Virginia Treatment Center for Children, have you gotten a confirmation of your interview date? I replied to the interview email right away last week but still haven't gotten a confirmation.
 
For those with interviews at Virginia Treatment Center for Children, have you gotten a confirmation of your interview date? I replied to the interview email right away last week but still haven't gotten a confirmation.

No, not yet. I'm sure we will hear today or tomorrow. If you need to know right away because of potential conflicts I don't think it would be an issue sending a reminder.
 
I'm thinking/wondering weather may be a factor to some potential delays in responses... depending on region.
 
Echos to all in best of luck this week … buckle the seat belts as I think we are all about to go on one heck of a ride this week… forum has been helpful … appreciate the supportive comments made to all ….

btw - interview - FL Atlantic Univ - personal phone call 12/6 - interview Jan 7

Central WA U - a contact by an "internship buddy" - nice humane touch that is certainly appreciated! in prep for the interview next week

Good luck to all!
 
Yeah. Many UCC's really value social justice and don't want to allow those with financial means to have an advantage over those that don't. I think it's pretty sweet. Some sites I applied to don't offer any on site interviews at all.
I wish all my sites were like that. 🙁 I am one of those people that is scrambling to ask friends and relatives for help!
 
Yeah, in addition to a cap on applications, I think on-site interviews should be banned. Each one (unless it's close by) can cost $1,000+ after you consider airfare, rental car (in some cases), and lodging. 5-10 interviews and you have 5-1ok in expenses. There is a social justice issue, much greater than the cost of the number of applications issue. Fortunately for me so far, 2 of my 3 rejections were of the 6 total sites that have on-site interviews. I do like the idea of actually seeing the place first, but I think the economic issue for those less fortunate than I am should be prioritized.
 
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