My school gives out match day t-shirts and I **** you not, the shirts this year say "blank swiped right!" And we fill in where we matched
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[2015-2016] EM Rank Order List Thread
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May have been answered before but does the data eventually come out about which programs went unfilled or is this forever hidden even after SOAP ends?
Still can't believe this is all coming to an end with a job at the end!!
Still can't believe this is all coming to an end with a job at the end!!
May have been answered before but does the data eventually come out about which programs went unfilled or is this forever hidden even after SOAP ends?
Still can't believe this is all coming to an end with a job at the end!!
I think there will be a final report in our R3 account after the SOAP ends. Not 100% on this though.
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Main Considerations in Creating this ROL: geography > prestige/opportunities > leadership (chair/PD) > residents > work/life. 230s/230s. low-tier medical school. H/H/HP.
1) NYU - amazing location. i really liked the PD and the associate PDs. the residents were really cool, social. the department is established, well respected, the bellevue/tisch combo (and the fact that they are right next to each other) was awesome. moonlighting opportunities abound. housing is pretty decent. great pathology. reputation helps residents get any fellowship/job. goldfrank is an extraordinary doctor.
2) Northwestern - possibly the best program in the country. it just doesn't get more well-rounded than this. incredible ICU experience, great trauma experience (trauma junior and senior at cook county) plus the fair amount of trauma that comes through the main hospital. the most energetic leadership I've ever encountered. the chair/PD have clear and ambitious vision which is articulated immaculately. academics are top notch. facilities/benefits/bourgeois perks are unbeatable. chair of EM is also CMO of the entire hospital system, so EM has big clout. chicago is an amazing city. oh well about the weather, NYC and boston have ****ty weather as well.
3) UCSF/SFGH - didn't like the program very much as it is still new and disorganized. residents and faculty were not very enthusiastic I think. EM shares airway with anesthesia, limited role in trauma. SFGH has some crazy pathology though. the reputation and location are stellar.
4) Johns Hopkins - great pathology, great trauma, great facilities, AMAZING research/fellowship opportunities. thoughtful curriculum. baltimore is not the best. and EM is not highly respected at this institution.
5) Boston Medical Center - very well respected. best program in the city. lots of trauma. EM runs the ED. highly competent, intelligent, and social residents. can't go wrong here. not my favorite city, but a good city.
The Rest: Denver, UPitt, UPenn, GW, Georgetown, Mt. Sinai. Declined: Hennepin, Cook County, UMD, Duke.
Regarding Denver: honestly an amazing program. They know it, and everybody knows it. The quality of life in denver is really great. The residents are very happy. They work hard, but still have a good time and have a lot of fun. EM as a job is just much funner/more rewarding here, I suspect, than at most other programs because of how much responsibility the residents get. I loved it here, but Denver is just not that cool as a city. If it were in a cool city, it would have been higher, possibly even #1.
The commuting at Mt. Sinai was a horrifying prospect. Plus the recent notoriety was offputting (though I am seriously doubtful). UES is not the coolest part of the city. But the housing is amazing. Still couldn't go wrong here. Smart residents doing smart things undoubtedly facilitated by Jagoda's influence.
I didn't get the impression that Penn had a strong EM program, but rather throws the weight of its name as far as it can go.
Main Considerations in Creating this ROL: geography > prestige/opportunities > leadership (chair/PD) > residents > work/life. 230s/230s. low-tier medical school. H/H/HP.
1) NYU - amazing location. i really liked the PD and the associate PDs. the residents were really cool, social. the department is established, well respected, the bellevue/tisch combo (and the fact that they are right next to each other) was awesome. moonlighting opportunities abound. housing is pretty decent. great pathology. reputation helps residents get any fellowship/job. goldfrank is an extraordinary doctor.
2) Northwestern - possibly the best program in the country. it just doesn't get more well-rounded than this. incredible ICU experience, great trauma experience (trauma junior and senior at cook county) plus the fair amount of trauma that comes through the main hospital. the most energetic leadership I've ever encountered. the chair/PD have clear and ambitious vision which is articulated immaculately. academics are top notch. facilities/benefits/bourgeois perks are unbeatable. chair of EM is also CMO of the entire hospital system, so EM has big clout. chicago is an amazing city. oh well about the weather, NYC and boston have ****ty weather as well.
3) UCSF/SFGH - didn't like the program very much as it is still new and disorganized. residents and faculty were not very enthusiastic I think. EM shares airway with anesthesia, limited role in trauma. SFGH has some crazy pathology though. the reputation and location are stellar.
4) Johns Hopkins - great pathology, great trauma, great facilities, AMAZING research/fellowship opportunities. thoughtful curriculum. baltimore is not the best. and EM is not highly respected at this institution.
5) Boston Medical Center - very well respected. best program in the city. lots of trauma. EM runs the ED. highly competent, intelligent, and social residents. can't go wrong here. not my favorite city, but a good city.
The Rest: Denver, UPitt, UPenn, GW, Georgetown, Mt. Sinai. Declined: Hennepin, Cook County, UMD, Duke.
Regarding Denver: honestly an amazing program. They know it, and everybody knows it. The quality of life in denver is really great. The residents are very happy. They work hard, but still have a good time and have a lot of fun. EM as a job is just much funner/more rewarding here, I suspect, than at most other programs because of how much responsibility the residents get. I loved it here, but Denver is just not that cool as a city. If it were in a cool city, it would have been higher, possibly even #1.
The commuting at Mt. Sinai was a horrifying prospect. Plus the recent notoriety was offputting (though I am seriously doubtful). UES is not the coolest part of the city. But the housing is amazing. Still couldn't go wrong here. Smart residents doing smart things undoubtedly facilitated by Jagoda's influence.
I didn't get the impression that Penn had a strong EM program, but rather throws the weight of its name as far as it can go.
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Main Considerations in Creating this ROL: Program fit/vibe, COL, schools for kids, proximity to family/friends.
1. Wash U St. Louis- wasn't looking for 4 year program initially, but they sold it very well. Loved the emphasis on teaching to teach. Got along well with PD and residents.
2. Wake Forest- immediately clicked with residents and program. Very welcoming. Well-established and well-run program.
3. Ohio State- very impressed with residents and PD. Liked emphasis on U/S and education.
4. Baylor- personally got a better vibe here than UT Houston (nothing wrong with that program). Reminded me of Emory but I liked Houston better.
5. Emory- very solid program all around. Wasn't as big a fan of Atlanta.
The Rest: Scott and White, EVMS, MUSC, GW, UT Houston, Palmetto Health, Maricopa.
Main Considerations in Creating this ROL: Program fit/vibe, COL, schools for kids, proximity to family/friends.
1. Wash U St. Louis- wasn't looking for 4 year program initially, but they sold it very well. Loved the emphasis on teaching to teach. Got along well with PD and residents.
2. Wake Forest- immediately clicked with residents and program. Very welcoming. Well-established and well-run program.
3. Ohio State- very impressed with residents and PD. Liked emphasis on U/S and education.
4. Baylor- personally got a better vibe here than UT Houston (nothing wrong with that program). Reminded me of Emory but I liked Houston better.
5. Emory- very solid program all around. Wasn't as big a fan of Atlanta.
The Rest: Scott and White, EVMS, MUSC, GW, UT Houston, Palmetto Health, Maricopa.
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Main Considerations in Creating this ROL: Geographic Location, Pathology/Trauma, Programs that prepare you for the real world.
1) UT-Chattanooga - pros: good variety of pathology, chattanooga is a desirable place to live, residents were all really cool and very well respected in the hospital. apparently they're allowing moonlighting on the helicopter now; cons: hospital and particularly ER is kinda old and crummy but apparently there are plans for a new one.
2) UT-Austin - pros: Austin is awesome, residents were all really cool; cons: new program, just graduated first class, Austin is pretty expensive.
3) University of Mississippi - pros: best variety of pathology out of any of the programs I visited. A lot of good trauma. TONS of moonlighting - the residents know their stuff and can function in the real world without all of the backup and they get paid $200+/hr. Now a 3 year program. ER is brand new. Dept chair is awesome. cons: Jackson isn't for everybody but cost of living is extremely cheap.
4) Wake Forest - pros: great reputation, lots of EMS opportunities if you want them, the residents are great; cons: I didn't feel very welcomed at my interview day and my interviews just felt awkward which didn't happen at any of the other places I went. I loved the program but that moved it down my list.
5) Scott & White - pros: faculty is amazing, especially PD & dept chair, cost of living is extremely cheap & it's only an hour from Austin, ED is very nice, seems like it would be a laid back training environment, the residents are really great people; cons - trauma is weak.
6) UTSW–loved this program - residents and faculty were all extremely cool. by far the best pre-interview dinner; I don't really have anything bad to say about it and it was actually my number 1 for awhile).
7) Mayo–pros: PD is so nice. The hospital is beautiful. Amazing Sim lab. Cons: Rochester is pretty boring and didn't seem to have much in the way of trauma. I can't say for sure, but specialists probably take over interesting cases very quickly since they really focus on doing what's best for the patient. It's cold.
8) MUSC–Loved the PD, Charleston is awesome, they really promote having a life outside of residency; they have 2 ERs that they rotate at right next to each other which was kind of strange to me, it sounded like one was lower acuity + trauma and the other was medically sick patients with super high admission rates
9) Cincinnati–this is an amazing place with amazing faculty and residents, I'm just not interested in academics so I couldn't justify the extra year personally
10) JPS–the PD really cares about the program and wants it to be the best - they are extremely supportive of their residents there; Ft Worth was kind of meh.
11) UF Jacksonville–pros: great trauma, high volume, good training; cons: they round in the mornings (no thanks) and the chief resident said they like to match people who are "arrogant"; residents sort of stuck to themselves at the pre-interview dinner so I didn't get to know them to know if that was true.
Main Considerations in Creating this ROL: Geographic Location, Pathology/Trauma, Programs that prepare you for the real world.
1) UT-Chattanooga - pros: good variety of pathology, chattanooga is a desirable place to live, residents were all really cool and very well respected in the hospital. apparently they're allowing moonlighting on the helicopter now; cons: hospital and particularly ER is kinda old and crummy but apparently there are plans for a new one.
2) UT-Austin - pros: Austin is awesome, residents were all really cool; cons: new program, just graduated first class, Austin is pretty expensive.
3) University of Mississippi - pros: best variety of pathology out of any of the programs I visited. A lot of good trauma. TONS of moonlighting - the residents know their stuff and can function in the real world without all of the backup and they get paid $200+/hr. Now a 3 year program. ER is brand new. Dept chair is awesome. cons: Jackson isn't for everybody but cost of living is extremely cheap.
4) Wake Forest - pros: great reputation, lots of EMS opportunities if you want them, the residents are great; cons: I didn't feel very welcomed at my interview day and my interviews just felt awkward which didn't happen at any of the other places I went. I loved the program but that moved it down my list.
5) Scott & White - pros: faculty is amazing, especially PD & dept chair, cost of living is extremely cheap & it's only an hour from Austin, ED is very nice, seems like it would be a laid back training environment, the residents are really great people; cons - trauma is weak.
6) UTSW–loved this program - residents and faculty were all extremely cool. by far the best pre-interview dinner; I don't really have anything bad to say about it and it was actually my number 1 for awhile).
7) Mayo–pros: PD is so nice. The hospital is beautiful. Amazing Sim lab. Cons: Rochester is pretty boring and didn't seem to have much in the way of trauma. I can't say for sure, but specialists probably take over interesting cases very quickly since they really focus on doing what's best for the patient. It's cold.
8) MUSC–Loved the PD, Charleston is awesome, they really promote having a life outside of residency; they have 2 ERs that they rotate at right next to each other which was kind of strange to me, it sounded like one was lower acuity + trauma and the other was medically sick patients with super high admission rates
9) Cincinnati–this is an amazing place with amazing faculty and residents, I'm just not interested in academics so I couldn't justify the extra year personally
10) JPS–the PD really cares about the program and wants it to be the best - they are extremely supportive of their residents there; Ft Worth was kind of meh.
11) UF Jacksonville–pros: great trauma, high volume, good training; cons: they round in the mornings (no thanks) and the chief resident said they like to match people who are "arrogant"; residents sort of stuck to themselves at the pre-interview dinner so I didn't get to know them to know if that was true.
Denver is not a cool city? Are you smoking crack or just didn't spend anytime in the city other than interviewing?
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Apparently he doesn't like mountains, or anything fun for that matter.
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i just looked up denver to check out all the hubbub and saw that PGY1 has 3 weeks each of neurosurgery and ortho in addition to a month of medicine
that seems excessive...is everyone smoking the same stuff up there?
that seems excessive...is everyone smoking the same stuff up there?
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Keep in mind, Denver is a 4 year program. They have to fill the space with something.
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Clearly just prefers "big city" cities and what they offer. I'm glad that people have such a wide range of preferences regarding both specialty and what they want in a residency.
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Yeah but I think anyone thinks Denver>>> Baltimore. Haven't you seen the wire?
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Congratulations everyone!
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matched at my #1 too. it's an unbelievable feeling!!!!!! whooohooooo
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Matched to my #1 bae!
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#1. Glad it's over.
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Keep things going with matching my #3. But really after my number one they were pretty much all tied. Hard to rank lots of programs over the others with so many great options. Not disappointed in the least.
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Matched #3 but in retrospect I should have switched my second and third so I'm counting that as a solid win. Congrats everyone!
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Matched my number 2...super happy but also just happy to be practicing in a field that I love!! Enjoy the feelin yall...well deserved!!!
!! Enjoy the feelin yall...well deserved!!!
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+indy woot
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Matched at my second choice, which is still good, was debating between my 1 and 2 for a while. Happiest that I am not going to have to move a 5 year old and a 7 months pregnant wife for residency.
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Matched my number 1! Congrats to all my EM family!
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"A" drink? lol
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Now that's what I call pregaming.
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Looks like 1900 spots and 2500 applications from what I'm seeing. But I may be misinterpreting the data. I'm looking at page 3 of the 2016 advanced data tables.
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True story. Our match ceremony is set up so that each student is randomly called up the stage to get their envelope. One by one students place 1-2 dollars inside a money basket/pot as they pick up their envelopes, so that the very last person (who had to wait an hour for 200 others to get theirs envelopes first) gets to keep that cash price.
Well...
Used the money to buy all my classmates drinks last night.
Well...
Looking at the ERAS data, there was somewhere around 4,200 when you include US/Canadian MD, IMGs, and DOs.
We do something similar except the cash goes to a charity and the last person decides which one.True story. Our match ceremony is set up so that each student is randomly called up the stage to get their envelope. One by one students place 1-2 dollars inside a money basket/pot as they pick up their envelopes, so that the very last person (who had to wait an hour for 200 others to get theirs envelopes first) gets to keep that cash price.
Well...
Used the money to buy all my classmates drinks last night.
Our class fund though bought us all 3 drinks and food last night.
The other 3 drinks I had was not my best idea but hey, yesterday was really the most important day of med school, right?
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Happy day after match day!
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Found out only a few weeks ago that I got trashed in a letter from an away rotation (very unexpectedly, based on feedback, and unfairly, IMO), quivered in my boots until last Monday, was very relieved to match, and on Match Day found out that I fell pretty far down my list and feel really lucky to have matched. I matched to a fantastic program in a not-so-favorite location, but I am so grateful and very excited to start. With EM getting as competitive as it is, any little thing on your app that could be viewed negatively can hurt you really badly. It was absolutely terrifying to think how much that SLOE hurt me. Two strong SLOEs and a great app + 1 questionable SLOE is truly dangerous. I very much regret ever doing that rotation; I got all my interview invites before that letter was sent and feel like most of my interviews went quite well. Future EM applicants: Be very, very careful where you rotate. Sadly, I now completely agree with past advice I have seen on SDN about doing "safe" aways.
Anyhow, I am very happy and excited that I am going to be an EM doc! Very grateful.
Anyhow, I am very happy and excited that I am going to be an EM doc! Very grateful.
