Since derm, rads, gas, rad-onc require a prelim/transitional pgy1 and those pgy1 positions aren't also listed next to the pgy2 spots, I'm guessing they just bunched all the transitional and prelim pgy1 positions together. My school does it that way too.
I guess - most schools list the match as the one the student will go to after their preliminary year.
I'm assuming based on only 2 TY that that list includes the Med Prelim -> Rads/Rad Onc/Derm/etc...
Not too familiar with assessing how good a match list is. Thanks for addressing. Makes me feel better about where Im leaning to go to.
That list won't be very illuminating because they as well as all HPSP people are required to participate in the military match. You're gonna see a lot of NMMC San Diego, Bethesda and Portsmouth, Walter Reed, Ft. Hood, Ft. Bragg, and so on. The other thing about that list is you're going to see a higher proportion of what you might call transitional years because those people are going to do an intern year and then go to a GMO tour (General Medical Officer). Some of those are for flight surgeon slots, some even go to flight school. Some even go do 'other' secret suirrel things depending on their background. Those folks do a specialty residency later on down the road, so that match list would likely leave a lot of head scratching going on.
Non-national MSTP type programs?
what about the Space Force?
I think @Avada Cadaver is right, the # of prelim programs listed matches up with the specialties like Derm and Ophtho that use a transitional/prelim year.
Is it? Diagnostic radiology and radiation oncology are vastly different fields lol.
I'm sure it's for the intern years for all the neurology, diagnostic radiology, derm, rad onc, and pm & r.
Wow this is actually a really solid match list.
Rip to ophthalmology person...
Why?
Lol, exhibit A of how not to read a match list. Iowa is one of the best ophtho residencies in the country...Isn’t their ortho really good too?
Absolutely, 100,000% agree. Unfortunately, this is a trick that low-midtier and lower tier schools try to sell to get high achievers to buy into the sub-par kool-aid.
Exception to the rule, you can always find a few, but that doesn't prove a general pattern to be untrue. Look at the competitive specialties and you'll see a much higher representation of name-brand schools relative to who-the-hell-knows schools.
I do something similar and also look at the % of IM matches that match at T20 residencies since the reality is those that come in gunning for ortho/derm/etc are most likely to go into IM (or gen surg) if they arent competitive for those fields.
Yeah stuff like that and psych are very competitive at the top. I was talking to a JHU chief resident in psych who said they have a very large number of 260+ apply these past 2 years. So people who could probably apply to the more competitive stuff if they wanted to (but apparently psych is quickly becoming the new derm)
True, but I would also wonder how much is attributable to the general competitiveness of the students themselves at top schools - like better test taking abilities, more experience in research settings, maybe just an innate desire to go to more competitive specialties in desirable locations whereas people at lower ranked schools may not live and die by prestige. I definitely agree that there are resources at T5/T10 schools that will put you at an advantage.
Not everyone wants to be a surgeon, many of those who do prior to matriculating change their mind, including those at the top of their class. Also, while IM is generally easier to match into than say ortho, getting MGH for IM is prob just as hard as matching HSS for ortho. You also can't just look at the # matching into X speciality without looking at the class size. Ex- Case's match is/always impressive but they also have a massive class. Their 2018 entering class was 214 students.
