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Man I remember beating the “match lists aren’t as useful as you think” drum. Then I realized the futility of it all and it’s been all good since.
 
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Sinai st lukes is pretty weak too. It just has the mt sinai name.
mmm I semi agree... tons of great applicants choose it bc it's only 3 years and in NYC, and probably stronger than most of the knock off name brand places, but I'd agree definitely not anything crazy great.
 
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I'd say EM was good, but places like UPenn, Kern, and UWash are not considered very good EM programs.
Yeah, I didn't say amazing! Just a very good group overall. And while those three aren't top programs, I'd argue they are still certainly above average.
 

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Does anyone with more experience have any insight on the Sinai match list? How good it is, is it what you would expect?
Sinai is an excellent, well regarded school with great home depts and many connections. The only thing stopping a student at sinai from matching well is the student. Sure, theyre not guaranteed a spot at MGH just for having a pulse like harvard kids are, but theyre still in a great spot. Dont even worry about analyzing the match list
 

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Sinai is an excellent, well regarded school with great home depts and many connections. The only thing stopping a student at sinai from matching well is the student. Sure, theyre not guaranteed a spot at MGH just for having a pulse like harvard kids are, but theyre still in a great spot. Dont even worry about analyzing the match list
This. A student performing poorly on Step 1 is NOT the fault of the school. Poor matches tend to start there since it is the easiest thing to filter. Obviously the entire package comes into play, but once again, on the student to pursue opportunities.
 

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Sinai is an excellent, well regarded school with great home depts and many connections. The only thing stopping a student at sinai from matching well is the student. Sure, theyre not guaranteed a spot at MGH just for having a pulse like harvard kids are, but theyre still in a great spot. Dont even worry about analyzing the match list
A program now exists where students after m1 can pursue early acceptance to a Sinai residency (non binding) after a application process. It just started this past year so it should be interesting to see how that may affect things.
 

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This. A student performing poorly on Step 1 is NOT the fault of the school. Poor matches tend to start there since it is the easiest thing to filter. Obviously the entire package comes into play, but once again, on the student to pursue opportunities.
It does the beg the question of why harvard stanford etc students seemingly CANT match poorly. They clearly have the edge when it comes to name and connections trump everything else, whereas a sinai student (still top 20 mind you) needs to also do very well to have a shot at the tippy top programs.
Its almost akin to law schools at that level.
 

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That list won't be very illuminating because they as well as all HPSP people are required to participate in the military match. You're gonna see a lot of NMMC San Diego, Bethesda and Portsmouth, Walter Reed, Ft. Hood, Ft. Bragg, and so on. The other thing about that list is you're going to see a higher proportion of what you might call transitional years because those people are going to do an intern year and then go to a GMO tour (General Medical Officer). Some of those are for flight surgeon slots, some even go to flight school. Some even go do 'other' secret suirrel things depending on their background. Those folks do a specialty residency later on down the road, so that match list would likely leave a lot of head scratching going on.
Just to clarify for those who don’t know, even if they were not doing a GMO tour, many Navy students marching into a specialty that requires a prelim year will still only show the transitional year. In the Navy, the match in M4 is for PGY-1 only for the vast majority of students, and the PGY-2 match happens during intern year (or during the GMO tour if you failed to match in intern year).

So yeah, like you said, the list from usuhs will not be super helpful. This year, a whopping 10 people went to the civilian match, which is a lot.
 
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I wish schools also published what % of people are matching #1, top 3, etc. I personally know someone who interviewed at top programs but ranked them lower because of proximity to his partner so he matched his #1 but it wasn’t a “name brand” program.
This might not be of that much importance. I matched at a top 5 program in my specialty but I fell wayyy down my list (I basically ranked the other programs before it). Thats like saying I ranked Hopkins, MGH, Yale, Penn, Stanford and ended up at Stanford. Yes, I failed and did not go where I wanted but its not a fall out of the tier. That being said, some schools release it internally but you will have to pull teeth to get that info
 
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The ERAS/NRMP/Match Process is the absolute hardest thing. Humbled beyond belief. For the Premeds on this thread, congrats you got in. From here on out, you need to perform. Period. Getting a 230+ Step 1 is harder than anything you have done in your life thus far. And that will get you screened out most surgical subspecialties. The competition is so high at the elite level, PhDs, MBAs/MPPs/MPHs, wild research experiences etc. You need to perform. And no matter what anyone tells you grades/boards are sooooo important. Its ridiculous but its reality. You will get it done. No matter what, make sure you PASS everything on the first attempt. A program might take a chance on you if you have a PhD, Masters, or a crazy story, but a failure knocks you out of the running.
 
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Just to clarify for those who don’t know, even if they were not doing a GMO tour, many Navy students marching into a specialty that requires a prelim year will still only show the transitional year. In the Navy, the match in M4 is for PGY-1 only for the vast majority of students, and the PGY-2 match happens during intern year (or during the GMO tour if you failed to match in intern year).

So yeah, like you said, the list from usuhs will not be super helpful. This year, a whopping 10 people went to the civilian match, which is a lot.
10? Wow. Mostly Air Force?
 

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Internal Medicine

U Michigan Hosps‐Ann Arbor
U South Florida Morsani COM‐Tampa
Henry Ford Hospital‐MI x2
U Kentucky
DMC
Wayne State Uni
San Antonio Military Medical Center
Spectrum Health/Michigan State Univ
U Alabama
Vanderbilt
Western Michigan Univ Stryker SOM
Maine Med Ctr
Oregon Health & Science Univ
U Cincinnati Med Ctr‐OH
Florida State University COM

Emergency Medicine
NYU
Spectrum Health/Michigan State Univ x2
B I Deaconess Med Ctr‐MA
John Peter Smith Hosp-TX
U New Mexico SOM
Naval Medical Center Portsmouth
Zucker SOM‐Northwell Southside Hosp‐NY


Family Medicine
Beaumont Health‐MI x2
Mercy Health Grand Rapids‐MI
Darnall Army Medical Center
Mayo Clinic School of Grad Med Educ‐MN
Poudre Valley Hospital‐CO
Mercy Health Grand Rapids‐MI
Bayfront Med Ctr‐FL
Spectrum Health/Michigan State Univ x2
Univ of Vermont Medical Center

General Surgery
Guthrie/Robert Packer Hosp‐PA
Spectrum Health/Michigan State Univ
U Illinois COM‐Peoria OSF
Loyola Univ Med Ctr‐IL
UIC/Metro Group Hospitals‐IL

Psychiatry
West Virginia University SOM
Pine Rest Christian Mental Hlth Svcs‐MI x3
St Mary Mercy-MI x2
DMC
SUNY Upstate Med Uni
MCW
SUNY HSC Brooklyn‐NY
Central Michigan University COM
Loyola Univ Med Ctr‐IL
Olive View‐UCLA Med Ctr‐CA

Pediatrics
U Illinois COM‐Chicago
John Hopkins Hosp-MD
Harbor‐UCLA Med Ctr‐CA
Spectrum Health/Michigan State

Radiology-Diagnostic
Beaumont Health‐MI x2
Cleveland Clinic Fdn‐OH
Stony Brook

Orthopedic Surgery
UC San Francisco‐Fresno‐CA
U Illinois COM‐Chicago
Palmetto Health Richland‐SC
McLaren Heaith Care Corp‐MI

Dermatology
Case Western/MetroHealth Med Ctr‐OH

Anesthesia
University of Michigan
Cleveland Clinic
Beaumont Health‐MI
Stony Brook
Ochsner Clinic Foundation‐LA

OB-Gyn
Ascension Providence/MSUCHM‐MI
University of Toledo‐OH
Aultman Hospital/NEOMED‐OH
Beaumont Hospital-MI
Henry Ford x2
York Hospital-PA
Ascension St John Hosp‐MI

Rad-Onc
Henry Ford
Beaumont


IM+EM
Vidant Med Ctr/East Carolina Univ‐NC

Psy+FM
U Iowa Hosps and Clinics

Interventional Radiology
Rochester Gen Hospital-NY

Ophthalmology
Beaumont Health-MI

PM&R
U Texas HSC‐San Antonio

Otolaryngology
Case Western/Univ Hosps Cleveland Med Ctr‐OH
U Kentucky Med Ctr

Urology
University of Chicago Medicine

Neurology
Sparrow Hospital-MI
U Wisconsin

Surg Prelims
Loyola
University Hospital‐Columbus‐MO
Ascension St John Hosp‐MI
 
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WashU-Stl sent one to Mayo in AZ for surgery. How are those Mayo satellite campuses? Are they still prestigious? (I understand it's not the mothership)
 
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WashU-Stl sent one to Mayo in AZ for surgery. How are those Mayo satellite campuses? Are they still prestigious? (I understand it's not the mothership)
FWIW, Mayo-AZ is ranked 11th among the best hospitals in U.S. (tied with Barnes-Jewish) above the likes of the Hospital of UPenn, Duke, BWH, etc. Top 20 or 30 in most surgical subspecialties but it cracks the top 10 in GI surgery and pulmonary surgery.
 

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FWIW, Mayo-AZ is ranked 11th among the best hospitals in U.S. (tied with Barnes-Jewish) above the likes of the Hospital of UPenn, Duke, BWH, etc. Top 20 or 30 in most surgical subspecialties but it cracks the top 10 in GI surgery and pulmonary surgery.
It's not considered an extremely difficult/competitive general surgery match. It's a solid program though.
 
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Anesthesiology

Cedars-Sinai Medical Center
UCLA Medical Center
UCLA Medical Center
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
UC San Diego Medical Center
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
Hospital of the University of Pennsylvania



Child Neurology
Children’s Hospital Los Angeles



Dermatology
UC Davis Medical Center
UC San Francisco



Diagnostics Radiology
Stanford University Programs
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
University of Chicago Medical Center
Wake Forest Baptist Medical Center
Virginia Mason Medical Center



Emergency Medicine
UCLA Medical Center
UCLA Medical Center
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
Riverside Community Hospital
UC San Diego Medical Center
UC San Diego Medical Center
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
George Washington University
Aventura Hospital
Cook County Health and Hospitals System
Advocate Health Care
Baystate Medical Center
Carolinas Medical Center
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell Staten Island U
Stony Brook Medicine/University Hospital
Ohio State University Medical Center
University of Oklahoma Tulsa
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center-El Paso
Baylor-Scott & White



Family Medicine
Adventist Health Glendale
Long Beach Memorial Medical Center
Adventist Health White Memorial
Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles
Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles
Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles
Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles
UCLA Medical Center
UC Riverside School of Medicine
UC Davis Medical Center
Kaiser Permanente-San Jose
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
Kaiser Permanente-Napa/Solano
John Muir Health
University of Colorado School of Medicine-Denver
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Cambridge Health Alliance
University of Washington Affiliate Hospitals



General Surgery
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center
University of Southern California
Boston University Medical Center
University of Nevada Las Vegas
SUNY HSC Brooklyn
University of Texas Southwestern Medical School
Baylor College of Medicine Houston
University of Texas Medical School-Houston



Internal Medicine
Loma Linda University
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center
Kaiser Permanente-Los Angeles
UCLA Medical Center
UCLA Medical Center
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
Huntington Memorial Hospital
Naval Medical Center
UC San Diego Medical Center
Olive View-UCLA Medical Center
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
University of Chicago Medical Center
Boston University Medical Center
Massachusetts General Hospital
Mayo Clinic School of Medicine
University of Texas Southwestern Medical School-Dallas
Baylor College of Medicine Houston



Interventional Radiology
Loma Linda University



Medicine-Pediatrics
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
UC San Diego Medical Center
Yale-New Haven Hospital
Icahn School of Medicine at Mount Sinai
Baylor College of Medicine Houston



Neurological Surgery
University of Southern California
UC San Francisco
MedStar Georgetown University Hospital
Emory University School of Medicine



Neurology
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
Barnes-Jewish Hospital



Obstetrics-Gynecology
Kern Medical Center
UCLA Medical Center
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center
University of Nevada Las Vegas
Montefiore Medical Center/Einstein
SUNY Health Science Center-Brooklyn
Zucker School of Medicine at Hofstra/Northwell



Ophthalmology
Oregon Health and Science University
USC Roski Eye Institute
USC Roski Eye Institute
USC Roski Eye Institute
California Pacific Medical Center
Rutgers-New Jersey Medical School
University of Rochester Flaum Eye Institute



Oral and Maxillofacial Surgery
University of Southern California
University of Southern California



Orthopedic Surgery
UC San Francisco-Fresno
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
UC Irvine Medical Center
Stanford University Programs
Jackson Memorial Hospital
Northwestern McGaw Medical Center
Northwestern McGaw Medical Center
Massachusetts General Hospital
Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center-Lubbock
University of Washington Affiliate Hospitals



Otolaryngology
UCLA Medical Center
UCLA Medical Center
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
Rutgers-New Jersey Medical School
NYU School of Medicine
University of Wisconsin Hospital and Clnics



Pathology
Vanderbilt University Medical Center



Pediatrics
Phoenix Children’s Hospital
Children’s Hospital Los Angeles
Children’s Hospital Los Angeles
Children’s Hospital Oakland
Kaiser Permanente-Oakland
UC Davis Medical Center
Cincinnati Childrens Hospital
University of Washington Affiliate Hospitals



Physical Medicine & Rehabilitation
VA Greater Los Angeles Health Systems



Plastic Surgery
University of Southern California
Loma Linda University



Psychiatry
University of Arizona College of Medicine-Phoenix
University of Southern California
University of Southern California
UC Davis Medical Center
California Pacific Medical Center
Kaiser Permanente-San Jose
Olive View-UCLA Medical Center
Harbor-UCLA Medical Center
Walter Reed Medical Center
Emory University School of Medicine
Massachusetts General Hospital



Psychiatry-Family Medicine
UC San Diego Medical Center



Radiation Oncology
UC San Francisco



Thoracic Surgery
University of Southern California



Urology
Cedars-Sinai Medical Center
University of Southern California
University of Chicago Medical Center
Cleveland Clinic
Oregon Health and Science University
University of Texas Southwestern Medical School
 

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Not that I can tell, but here is what was emailed to students minus names. Sorry for the terrible formatting.

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Would you mind PM’ing who matched where for the ortho guys? I rotated with most of them and is curious where everyone ended up. I know who went to Hopkins, Shreveport, and Ochsner but not AMC and South Alabama. It’s cool if you don’t feel comfortable though