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2020-2021 Waitlist Support Thread
Started by retro2021
They give Rs from WL?!?!Officially rejected from my top choice and 1/2 of my waitlists...ouch.
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My school starts in 1.5 weeks so yeah. It's just because they start really early.They give Rs from WL?!?!
What school is this if you don't mind sharing?My school starts in 1.5 weeks so yeah. It's just because they start really early.
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FSUWhat school is this if you don't mind sharing?
Wait I know about the snapshot but what's the 2nd new part of capser?sameeee and also needing to do whatever is going on with the 2 other parts of the casper lol
something called duet. very unsure of which schools will be using it/if any but when i signed up for the casper it made it sound like all 3 parts (so the actual casper, snapshot, duet) were mandatory??Wait I know about the snapshot but what's the 2nd new part of capser?
Got it....wild idea but based on some sample Duet questions online I feel like it would be better as a part of MSAR to help students identify schools that fit them rather than being a way to rule out candidates that already applied. But doing anything to help applicants would be crazy right?
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Rumor has it they'll require the LSAT, PCAT, DAT, OAT, and GRE in 2023.something called duet. very unsure of which schools will be using it/if any but when i signed up for the casper it made it sound like all 3 parts (so the actual casper, snapshot, duet) were mandatory??
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Ohhhhhhh boy. I’m so excited to study for the MCAT again 🥲🤮
Seems like the notion of "more waitlist movement" this year because of online interviews was a sham idea.
Similar to the idea of ADCOMs being more lenient about application timing because of COVID.
Noted. Assumptions aren't giving me hope anymore.
Similar to the idea of ADCOMs being more lenient about application timing because of COVID.
Noted. Assumptions aren't giving me hope anymore.
Taking my first FL this weekend after 3 years... I really liked my score tooOhhhhhhh boy. I’m so excited to study for the MCAT again 🥲🤮
Seems like the notion of "more waitlist movement" this year because of online interviews was a sham idea.
Similar to the idea of ADCOMs being more lenient about application timing because of COVID.
Noted. Assumptions aren't giving me hope anymore.
Oh, one hundred million percent agree on that second sentence. Especially with almost all the schools I applied to sending everyone to the waitlist if they interviewed after New Years.
Not gonna lie, I'm mad at everyone who gave me hope. Like I know they can't predict the future and they were just trying to help but still. Especially my undergrad's premed advisorSeems like the notion of "more waitlist movement" this year because of online interviews was a sham idea.
Similar to the idea of ADCOMs being more lenient about application timing because of COVID.
Noted. Assumptions aren't giving me hope anymore.
same i'm rushing my MCAT retake because I was a clown this past year and I have to basically take multiple Fls a week to take it in time for July. My content is still fresh so I'm focusing on my weaker areas :/ ripBTW, to everyone retaking their MCAT? Mind if I ask what score y'all intially had?
I have a 507, and while I don't want to retake it, it feels like every school's MCAT averages went up three points this year and I have to...
There has been ongoing waitlist movement. Not all of these acceptances are posted on SDN. One thing to keep in mind is that due to the increased number of applicants this year, there is a higher chance that an acceptance will go to someone with no other acceptances, decreasing the usual trickle down effect. But, waitlist movement has not finished, so hang tight.If a lot of T20 movement is going to come this year, why hasn't it started yet?
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Yo legit same! I finished my fall semester of my masters with a 3.98 and my advisor was like send updates you'll get at least 5 IIs after Christmas. Me believing him and now feeling like a clown cus the one school that interviewed me put me on the WL.Not gonna lie, I'm mad at everyone who gave me hope. Like I know they can't predict the future and they were just trying to help but still. Especially my undergrad's premed advisor
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Anyone have advice/thoughts on reapplying with only one new activity/experience to write about, but also a higher GPA and MCAT score?
Nope! That's good enough. When you do the "How has your application improved since the last cycle" you can really hone in on the GPA and MCAT improvement and how it has made you a better student (i.e. time management, critical thinking, etc)Anyone have advice/thoughts on reapplying with only one new activity/experience to write about, but also a higher GPA and MCAT score?
If i end up reapplying ill only have my gap yr job and a new abstract.. dont know if thats enough and with the increased amount of apps next yr due to all this yrs reapps it might be gg for me
This is my second time applying so I filled out a ton of those! Make sure when you talk about your RA position bring in characteristics (without blatantly saying them) about how it made you more attentive to details, curious, analytical etc. The grandfather experience is HUGE (kuddos to you for doing so) this shows care and concern and you can explain how it really allowed you to reaffirm your motivation to become a physician. How treating patients as family members will allow you to give them more complete care. The IMPT thing is to make it a narrative and not a resume-style listing of things you did.Anybody have tips on how to do that "what has changed" essay if the only thing that was different was a research assistant position and being a caregiver for your grandfather? lol
Yeah, but no VITA this year! 🙂*prepping for reapp*
me: “man, there’s no way this process could get worse”
*gets email stating one of my schools is requiring the SJT next cycle*
Maybe a stupid question, but why would you put all your eggs in the EDP basket on a reapp?Same my top choice school also increased mcat cutoffs for EDP so I have to retake the exam
Would love to hear more insight on early decision. My advisor (who I don't trust very much haha) told me to apply EDP to one of the schools I was waitlisted at for re-apps...but I'm confused because I feel like I'd have a better chance with getting regular apps in earlier to more schools than EDP to one school and being on the late side everywhere else.
You are correct. Unless you have been led to believe, through prior contact with the school, that you are basically a lock to be admitted EDP, it's insane to handicap yourself at all other schools by applying EDP.Would love to hear more insight on early decision. My advisor (who I don't trust very much haha) told me to apply EDP to one of the schools I was waitlisted at for re-apps...but I'm confused because I feel like I'd have a better chance with getting regular apps in earlier to more schools than EDP to one school and being on the late side everywhere else.
This is why it is not used nearly as widely as in UG, and why many top schools don't even offer it as an option. It's inappropriate for most people, because it is the exact opposite of a backdoor into med school. People who are accepted EDP are typically very strong candidates who would be accepted regular decision, not people looking for a shortcut on a reapp. On a reapp, if it works, great. Otherwise, you have another blown cycle before it even started.
High risk, low reward. This is why most people don't even consider it.
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This is my second time applying so I filled out a ton of those! Make sure when you talk about your RA position bring in characteristics (without blatantly saying them) about how it made you more attentive to details, curious, analytical etc. The grandfather experience is HUGE (kuddos to you for doing so) this shows care and concern and you can explain how it really allowed you to reaffirm your motivation to become a physician. How treating patients as family members will allow you to give them more complete care. The IMPT thing is to make it a narrative and not a resume-style listing of things you did.
This is actually going to be my fourth time applying (if I don't get off the waitlist, here's to hoping I won't have to lol)
It's just that before I always had big improvements, and this year not too much? So I'm just worried that experience related stuff won't make that big of a difference in this essay.
Great points though!
Would love to hear more insight on early decision. My advisor (who I don't trust very much haha) told me to apply EDP to one of the schools I was waitlisted at for re-apps...but I'm confused because I feel like I'd have a better chance with getting regular apps in earlier to more schools than EDP to one school and being on the late side everywhere else.
You are correct. Unless you have been led to believe, through prior contact with the school, that are basically a lock to be admitted EDP, it's insane to handicap yourself at all other schools by applying EDP.
This is why it is not used nearly as widely as in UG, and why many top schools don't even offer it as an option. It's inappropriate for most people, because it is the exact opposite of a backdoor into med school. People who are accepted EDP are typically very strong candidates who would be accepted regular decision, not people looking for a shortcut on a reapp. On a reapp, if it works, great. Otherwise, you have another blown cycle before it even started.
High risk, low reward. This is why most people don't even consider it.
Agree with KnightDoc, plus, nothing against EDPs, but I've seen a gradual shift the past few years where they have gone from just "guaranteed acceptance," to just "guaranteed interview."
Above class size is definitely not good news on 5/18, but at class size is normal, everywhere.Apparently one of my WL schools is actually above class size, and two others that in past years have pulled 50+ from WL are also at class size and have had minimal movement. I'm feeling pretty crushed right now.
WL movement is created by people dropping excess As, not by schools not being at full class size the third week of May. People will continue to hold multiple As until all WL movement stops, everywhere, and every matriculant at every school holds only that single A. Things are narrowing every day, but movement doesn't stop until all the CTE dates pass, and all the people having emergencies or getting cold feet at the last minute withdraw. 🙂
Same... 🙁 I sent a LOIntent to my top choice which is above class size already (unprecedented), and lowkey I regret not sending it to my #2 choice which likely will have more WL movement. This cycle sucks, man... The notion that more WL movement would happen this cycle was not only wrong but completely the opposite: there seems to be a historically low amount of WL movement this cycle (n=1).Apparently one of my WL schools is actually above class size, and two others that in past years have pulled 50+ from WL are also at class size and have had minimal movement. I'm feeling pretty crushed right now.
Med schools: hey, we will give less As because we are worried about our yield, but should be fine, we will use WL later
*all med schools do the same*
*no WL movement happens*
*surprised pikachu face*
Anyway, we can’t blame med schools, adcoms or counselors who thought more WL movement would happen. Covid19 was almost everyone’s first pandemic experience so this cycle was guaranteed to be shi* no matter what.
Imma hold out my hope til this month and re-start my MCAT prep 😭
*all med schools do the same*
*no WL movement happens*
*surprised pikachu face*
Anyway, we can’t blame med schools, adcoms or counselors who thought more WL movement would happen. Covid19 was almost everyone’s first pandemic experience so this cycle was guaranteed to be shi* no matter what.
Imma hold out my hope til this month and re-start my MCAT prep 😭
Call me a clown but I still have an inkling of hope that many state schools will unleash the floodgates in June and alot of us will get in...
Idk if there are any Bleachers fans here but they just dropped a song called "Stop Making This Hurt" And the lyrics go "stop making this hurt, say goodbye like you mean it" and if that doesn't capture me feelings towards WLs right now I don't know what does.
Hey everyone, I am new here! I am on a waitlist, however I am prepping my applicant for potential reapplication. I have submitted my transcript to AMCAS but have received 3 AMCAS confirmation notifications for the same transcript and it looks like they have duplicates of this transcript. Anyone else having this issue?
i just found out that if you get famous on tiktok, you get paid by tiktok....maybe it's time to consider a career change
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anyone tryna take the mcat end of June? i feel like its not enough time but i don't want to be late again this cycle. i guess a stronger mcat score makes a greater difference? idk. i was in the same boat last yr where i was prepping for the mcat and working on apps - it was rough
i'm planning to take a gap year and apply for the 2023 cycle. I rushed myself for last cycle and i don't want to make the same mistake. What was your score that you are trying to retake?anyone tryna take the mcat end of June? i feel like its not enough time but i don't want to be late again this cycle. i guess a stronger mcat score makes a greater difference? idk. i was in the same boat last yr where i was prepping for the mcat and working on apps - it was rough
wegotthis20201234
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i completely understand!! and just PM'ed you 🙂i'm planning to take a gap year and apply for the 2023 cycle. I rushed myself for last cycle and i don't want to make the same mistake. What was your score that you are trying to retake?
i'm taking it June 19. Been studying for a month ish. Have 3 FLs under my belt after 2 years.anyone tryna take the mcat end of June? i feel like its not enough time but i don't want to be late again this cycle. i guess a stronger mcat score makes a greater difference? idk. i was in the same boat last yr where i was prepping for the mcat and working on apps - it was rough
I feel like any MCAT before August is fine. That will get your score back before labor day.
You are familiar with the definition of insanity, aren't you??? 😎anyone tryna take the mcat end of June? i feel like its not enough time but i don't want to be late again this cycle. i guess a stronger mcat score makes a greater difference? idk. i was in the same boat last yr where i was prepping for the mcat and working on apps - it was rough
Youve been warned for eviscerationYou are familiar with the definition of insanity, aren't you??? 😎
Getting everything ready to submit for primary app (TX apps are open already)... as a 3rd time re-applicant I am feeling the burnout!!! (On 2 WL currently but not counting on it) I can’t tell if I’m losing my passion for med school or if I’m just exhausted of doing this $h*t for 3 years in a row. Since the WL’s and cycles always overlapped there really has been zero breaks for going on 3 years now. I hate it here 🤧 anyone else in a similar boat? Honestly if it doesn’t work out this next cycle i don’t think I will be doing this a 4th time
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Same exact boat. I love medicine more than anything but it's killing me right now.Getting everything ready to submit for primary app (TX apps are open already)... as a 3rd time re-applicant I am feeling the burnout!!! (On 2 WL currently but not counting on it) I can’t tell if I’m losing my passion for med school or if I’m just exhausted of doing this $h*t for 3 years in a row. Since the WL’s and cycles always overlapped there really has been zero breaks for going on 3 years now. I hate it here 🤧 anyone else in a similar boat? Honestly if it doesn’t work out this next cycle i don’t think I will be doing this a 4th time
I was feeling the same way last year, about to submit my 4th apps in texas. I was honestly just going to quit after getting 7 II and no A this time, but after a few file reviews I feel like im so close. Had a med school prof tell me they didn't want to see me waste a year when I have a competitive app, so here I am studying for the mcat again lolGetting everything ready to submit for primary app (TX apps are open already)... as a 3rd time re-applicant I am feeling the burnout!!! (On 2 WL currently but not counting on it) I can’t tell if I’m losing my passion for med school or if I’m just exhausted of doing this $h*t for 3 years in a row. Since the WL’s and cycles always overlapped there really has been zero breaks for going on 3 years now. I hate it here 🤧 anyone else in a similar boat? Honestly if it doesn’t work out this next cycle i don’t think I will be doing this a 4th time
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