2020-2021 Waitlist Support Thread

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Hey ya'll 😊 Does anyone know if DO schools have been having a lot of WL movement? Or has it been pretty silent?
 
One of the best manga writers/artists ever just passed away at 54 due to an aortic dissection.

As a third-time reapplicant, possibly going on a fourth time, I just want to tell y’all that amidst all this waiting and work: please live your lives to the fullest, and be sure to take care of yourselves.

Just as we hope to care for others, we need to make sure we are in good health as well, there really is nothing more important than it.
 
One of the best manga writers/artists ever just passed away at 54 due to an aortic dissection.

As a third-time reapplicant, possibly going on a fourth time, I just want to tell y’all that amidst all this waiting and work: please live your lives to the fullest, and be sure to take care of yourselves.

Just as we hope to care for others, we need to make sure we are in good health as well, there really is nothing more important than it.
except that A... just kidding, I wholeheartedly agree. Take care evryone
 
One of the best manga writers/artists ever just passed away at 54 due to an aortic dissection.

As a third-time reapplicant, possibly going on a fourth time, I just want to tell y’all that amidst all this waiting and work: please live your lives to the fullest, and be sure to take care of yourselves.

Just as we hope to care for others, we need to make sure we are in good health as well, there really is nothing more important than it.
Yeah this was sad news to wake up to. It is really terrible because the way the manga and anime industries function it basically requires that artists ignore all aspects of health and social life to see their vison/passion become a reality. I hope that soon the industry starts to value these amazing talents and pays them what they are truly worth, especially given how mainstream anime and manga are becoming.
 
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Sorry if this was alr mentioned, but is there a common last day to "commit to enroll" deadline for schools? If a WL school's commit to enroll deadline is July 15th, but most people have already committed to another school by then, how are there stories of people getting off the WL into late July or August?
 
Sorry if this was alr mentioned, but is there a common last day to "commit to enroll" deadline for schools? If a WL school's commit to enroll deadline is July 15th, but most people have already committed to another school by then, how are there stories of people getting off the WL into late July or August?
No -- CTE dates are all over the place, from 4/30 into the beginning of August.

Last minute WL movement can be caused by cold feet, emergencies, etc. Also, the school has a 7/15 CTE date. Unexpectedly, a few people the school thought were coming do not select CTE. It turns out they have another A, and they withdraw. Now, the school has to make a few calls. That in turn causes WL movement elsewhere, as those schools now lose a few people they thought were coming. Yes, there are stories, but, no, it is not common as you get into late July and August.
 
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hey guys, im on two WL rn for the 2021 cycle but losing hope. Can anyone offer any insights into re-application to both schools. More specifically, if I was waitlisted this year, does that mean if I re-apply my chances might be better. Also am strongly considering applying early decision to one of the schools, but don't know if this is just a crazy idea? I'd probably email both adcoms to ask what parts of my app need improvement and whether or not re-application is a good option for me?
 
hey guys, im on two WL rn for the 2021 cycle but losing hope. Can anyone offer any insights into re-application to both schools. More specifically, if I was waitlisted this year, does that mean if I re-apply my chances might be better. Also am strongly considering applying early decision to one of the schools, but don't know if this is just a crazy idea? I'd probably email both adcoms to ask what parts of my app need improvement and whether or not re-application is a good option for me?
When I reapplied I got II at 2 of the same 4 school. Pre-II R by the other two.
 
Is it really your interview skills though... I feel like there are so many other factors at play :|
I honestly feel like most interviews are of similar quality and ultimately it's something else that gets you in or out.
Idk but I feel like I didnt do enough and I cant shake that feeling...
 
Ugh I keep blaming myself like how could I be such an idiot and mess up 6 interviews... not get even 1 acceptance.. what is wrong with me
My theory after the last couple cycles is that a bad interview can keep you out, but a good one won’t get u in. To me I feel like interviews r just to weed out the ppl w bad ppl skills. In the least arrogant way possible, my ppl skills are my biggest strong suit and i always smash my interviews. I have always been told I’m a good interviewer and receive really positive feedback. My stats r on the lower end and I think that’s what keeps making the diff bt the WL and the A. So unless you’ve been getting consistent post-interview R’s, which would indicate something probs went wrong w your interview, I highly doubt ur interview skills r the issue. I feel like they look at everything as a whole, ESP stats, and then decide what best completes their class’s portfolio/stats/demographics for the year. I could be wrong but this is my theory
 
My theory after the last couple cycles is that a bad interview can keep you out, but a good one won’t get u in. In the least arrogant way possible, my ppl skills are my biggest strong suit and i always smash my interviews. I have always been told I’m a good interviewer and receive really positive feedback. My stats r on the lower end and I think that’s what keeps making the diff bt the WL and the A. So unless you’ve been getting consistent post-interview R’s, which would indicate something probs went wrong w your interview, I highly doubt ur interview skills r the issue. I feel like they look at everything as a whole, ESP stats, and then decide what best completes their class’s portfolio/stats/demographics for the year. I could be wrong but this is my theory
I second this. Out of my interviews this cycle there was only one that I knew I messed up. I was not surprised by the post-II R at all. The rest were WLs (no A's).
 
Idk but I feel like I didnt do enough and I cant shake that feeling...
It's natural, and most people feel this way, because they don't truly embrace the staircase analogy and they tell themselves, once they get to that point, that the interview is the only thing standing between them and an A. It's just not true.

Depending on your relative position going into the interview, the interview can either make you, break you, or not make a difference. Countless reports on SDN confirm that candidates totally suck at evaluating their own performances, and, in any event, you have no way to know where you were on the staircase going into the interview, let alone afterwards.
 
Its honestly crazy how many good candidates slip through the cracks
Med school admissions is literally just a dice roll. They don't read our applications, they just pick people at random after at go "yep sounds good."

I will add that this is a joke made to add humor. I apologize in advance if you think I have any information about the admissions process. To the best of my knowledge they do read everything you put in your application.
 
Med school admissions is literally just a dice roll. They don't read our applications, they just pick people at random after at go "yep sounds good."

I will add that this is a joke made to add humor. I apologize in advance if you think I have any information about the admissions process. To the best of my knowledge they do read everything you put in your application.
At one of my interviews the Dean of admissions literally opened by saying “I just want to let everyone know that you are here today more by luck, than by skill. almost everyone that applied is just as qualified as you all, this is essentially a lottery ... but have a great interview! 😀
Lol.... I unfortunately have lost 99% of the hope in their process I really think it’s just numbers and good luck at this point
 
amcas 2021-2022 is about to go live on the 28th - i wish there was a grace period between this cycle and the next. i feel like i can't even take a second to breathe. i'm already behind for the next cycle unless i create something beautiful in 8 days all while preparing to take the mcat again LOL
Bro i mean my app will be very similar with maybe a different rec and a few diff activities... my mcat and grades r good and i got an extra abstract so maybe thatll help but fwiw my app is not drastically different... idk how anyone can have a completely revamped app
 
Anyone else struggling with the immediate reapplication dilemma? Like am I waiting till next cycle or not the clock is ticking and idk what I’m doing
Personally I'm hoping for the best but I have gone through and strengthened my PS and activities section ready to submit next Thursday
It took weeks of me just staring at my app and melting down bc I did NOT want to rewrite it
But I think this week all my schools stopped having movement, started rejecting WL, etc and it has dawned on me that.. it's disappointing but I have to move on
If I get in it'd be absolutely amazing but I am now shifting gears into this new app
Luckily lots of writing to work off of since we already applied last year!

Edit: I'm choosing to reapply this year not next year because I have strong stats, experiences, and writing already and am not looking into a masters program or anything
 
Do y'all think three letters of rec is enough?
One PI and two science profs.
I usually go for five, but I didn't really have any classes this past year, and two of the ones I got letters from last year aren't writing any this year, and the only other professors I had in my post-bacc are either retired or have left teaching.

.......

Starting to realize how hard it is to apply to med schools the further out you get from undergrad.....
 
Do y'all think three letters of rec is enough?
One PI and two science profs.
I usually go for five, but I didn't really have any classes this past year, and two of the ones I got letters from last year aren't writing any this year, and the only other professors I had in my post-bacc are either retired or have left teaching.

.......

Starting to realize how hard it is to apply to med schools the further out you get from undergrad.....
Your school doesn’t do committee letter? I hit up my school recently because I was worried about LOR for future cycles, and my committee said they save LORs for me in case I reapply
 
Anyone else struggling with the immediate reapplication dilemma? Like am I waiting till next cycle or not the clock is ticking and idk what I’m doing
me! you are soooo not alone
 
Do y'all think three letters of rec is enough?
One PI and two science profs.
I usually go for five, but I didn't really have any classes this past year, and two of the ones I got letters from last year aren't writing any this year, and the only other professors I had in my post-bacc are either retired or have left teaching.

.......

Starting to realize how hard it is to apply to med schools the further out you get from undergrad.....
I was under the impression that you could re-use letters but aim to get 1-2 new letters. (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Maybe you could ask the 2 professors who arent writing any this year to re-submit the old?
 
Do y'all think three letters of rec is enough?
One PI and two science profs.
I usually go for five, but I didn't really have any classes this past year, and two of the ones I got letters from last year aren't writing any this year, and the only other professors I had in my post-bacc are either retired or have left teaching.

.......

Starting to realize how hard it is to apply to med schools the further out you get from undergrad.....
I reapplied many times *cough* and this time I used many old letters and 2 new ones and it was fine. One of my best letters that kept getting brought up was from 3 years ago. Got many interviews and few acceptances. The important thing is to submit quality letters.
 
Anyone by chance been in contact with GW admissions or have any updates on the WL?

Several people have tried calling but they aren’t picking up and haven’t been answering emails either 🥲🥲
 
Is it just me or was there like no movement at all this week? The window of possibility is getting so small here. I think what we might be seeing here is due to the large applicant pool, the spots settled out quite well and there wasn’t a lot of moving and giving up seats.

Similarly there hasn’t been much ripple effect down to lower-tier schools because people who were called off waitlists may have not had any other acceptances to give up, or they are still sitting on their one acceptance even if it’s not their top choice. Things honestly seem kind of settled at this point....
 
For people who have applied in past cycles, does this cycle seem relatively the same, less, or more in terms of WL movement?
Last cycle there was the same trend of a lot of movement and then super slow tapered random movement here and there the rest of the cycle. But I feel like this cycle the big amount of movement lasted less time than last cycle. So in my opinion seems like less this time around. Which is disheartening bc last cycle was less than usual too so I hope it doesn’t get even worse next cycle...
 
Last cycle there was the same trend of a lot of movement and then super slow tapered random movement here and there the rest of the cycle. But I feel like this cycle the big amount of movement lasted less time than last cycle. So in my opinion seems like less this time around. Which is disheartening bc last cycle was less than usual too so I hope it doesn’t get even worse next cycle...
People say this every year. It's not really true. The movement seems significant when you are not involved, adequate when you get the call, and otherwise practically nonexistent.

Honestly, as someone watching with interest from the sidelines for the third year in a row, this year is totally following the pattern of past years. There was a big wave the first two weeks of May. It did slow down last week, entirely as predicted, and as it does every year after the initial surge. It will continue, at a progressively slower pace, right into and through schools' CTE deadlines and up until orientation.

This happens EVERY YEAR. This year is no different. Just go back and look at all the happy people, on this thread as well as on the school specific threads, who reported success from the end of April through this past week. Multiply that by whatever multiplier you think is appropriate to arrive at the true number of WL calls so far. And, it's not over yet, although the initial surge caused by the 4/30 deadline to reduce to one A has now passed.

What did not happen was the huge surge of WL movement caused by schools being conservative with initial As due to a fear of acceptance hoarding facilitated by virtual interviews that some people were speculating might happen. Otherwise, every year people say that movement feels like it is less than prior years. If this were actually true, there would be no movement at all after all these years of less and less movement every year. 🙂

Hang in there. At this point, I'd give it another week and then start preparing for a reapplication if you have not been taking the very prudent advice of the most conservative adcoms among us (I'm looking directly at you @gonnif 🙂) and been doing so from the moment you hit the "submit" button last May.
 
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People say this every year. It's not really true. The movement seems significant when you are not involved, adequate when you get the call, and otherwise practically nonexistent.

Honestly, as someone watching with interest from the sidelines for the third year in a row, this year is totally following the pattern of past years. There was a big wave the first two weeks of May. It did slow down last week, entirely as predicted, and as it does every year after the initial surge. It will continue, at a progressively slower pace, right into and through schools' CTE deadlines and up until orientation.

This happens EVERY YEAR. This year is no different. Just go back and look at all the happy people, on this thread as well as on the school specific threads, who reported success from the end of April through this past week. Multiply that by whatever multiplier you think is appropriate to arrive at the true number of WL calls so far. And, it's not over yet, although the initial surge caused by the 4/30 deadline to reduce to one A has now passed.

What did not happen was the huge surge of WL movement caused by schools being conservative with initial As due to a fear of acceptance hoarding facilitated by virtual interviews that some people were speculating might happen. Otherwise, every year people say that movement feels like it is less than prior years. If this were actually true, there would be no movement at all after all these years of less and less movement every year. 🙂

Hang in there. At this point, I'd give it another week and then start preparing for a reapplication if you have not been taking the very prudent advice of the most conservative adcoms among us (I'm looking directly at you @gonnif 🙂) and been doing so from the moment you hit the "submit" button last May.
Is there a bit of a “wave” of acceptances around the CTE dates?
 
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