21 and MD

[Narmerguy]

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Not that this isn't impressive, but I've seen so many child prodigies go off to unremarkable careers that I've just stopped being blown away by this stuff. Of course, some of them do go on to be incredibly bad a**...

 

[Etorphine]

Do you sincerely think plastic surgery is more impressive than pediatric neurology? Some enter medicine to cure while others plant fake noses and count cash.

Well I don't think he'll be doing much curing as a neurologist either....it's a job that entails more long-term management....just saying! But yes I agree with the underlying message.

 

[gettheleadout]

We are given long white coats. It's supposed to symbolize the fact that we're a legitimate part of the medical team (in theory) and that our patients will see us as doctors even though we aren't.

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Stanford students have long white coats as well I believe. Contrast these examples with MGH, where even attendings wear short white coats to symbolize "lifelong learning."

 

[NickNaylor]

Stanford students have long white coats as well I believe. Contrast these examples with MGH, where even attendings wear short white coats to symbolize "lifelong learning."

It's all about the symbolism. 😎

 

[MDschoolorbust]

Is anyone else submitting their app at the age of 20 but will turn 21 way before matriculation (I'll be 21 in October)? I'm really hoping that little fact gets glossed over in my interviews.

 

[joonage]

Do you sincerely think plastic surgery is more impressive than pediatric neurology? Some enter medicine to cure while others plant fake noses and count cash.

Plastics isn't all rhinoplasties. There's cosmetic AND reconstructive. Although both do probably count cash.

 

[cuculici1]

Not that this isn't impressive, but I've seen so many child prodigies go off to unremarkable careers that I've just stopped being blown away by this stuff. Of course, some of them do go on to be incredibly bad a**...

Why do you think that so many of them have "unremarkable careers"?

 

[Verum]

Why do you think that so many off them have "unremarkable careers"?

Probably of all the hype that child prods go through people have an overinflated expectation of them.

 

[namiie]

I don'y think any amount of parent pressure can produce a 21 yo MD/PhD unless the kid actually wants to do it. He wasn't robbed of his childhood, he just chose to do something different with his. The fact that he's going for neurology over a high paying or more "prestigious" field should be proof that it's due to his own interests.

👍👍👍

 

[Tatiana3325]

There are some things you can't learn in a textbook...just sayin'

Yes! This was my thought as well....Don't know why I didn't see it earlier.,..

 

[235788]

Why do you think that so many off them have "unremarkable careers"?

many fade and become normal/insignificant.

Probably of all the hype that child prods go through people have an overinflated expectation of them.

Exactly.

 

[obgyny]

It's crazy. But my question is how did this kid even get into a med school at age 12? Obviously it takes more than intelligence to become a doctor...

 

[CodeBlu]

Code Blu be ignorin' my PM.

What? What PM?

 

[Chrome19]

1 first author publication = PhD? Wow, he got off easy from his PI and committee - must be because he is a kid.

Spoken like someone who has never been in the lab on a serious basis. Many PhD students finish with one first author publication. My PI's paper was published AFTER he got his PhD, and he told us it was a very difficult project. Some projects are just HARD. Some relatively easier projects may get you 3 first-author papers. It depends ...

 

[Chrome19]

Sadly, this is becoming truer. Any program that awards a PhD for 1 publication (non-Nature/Science quality work) is only "watering down" the degree. I wonder if he went to any conferences, gave presentations at conferences, or even did any peer-review. It is unfortunate to not even see any review papers written by him.

Two cases:

Student A joins a lab. He gets a project where all the techniques and conditions have been worked out. It is possible a post-doc started the project and left midway. The new PhD students just finishes it (still a lot of work, by the way) and uses the techniques for a new project underneath the same paradigm. Students gets 2-3 first author papers including a solid one.

Student B: Starts an entirely new project in the lab with a new direction. The PI is also a novice in this new aspect/direction but encourages the student to push forward. Student B spends years reading, troubleshooting, optimizing, getting around problems, etc. Conditions finally look right (probably after 2-4 years) and students get one solid paper after applying technique to a question.

Who had a watered-down PhD?

 

[tn4596]

Is anyone else submitting their app at the age of 20 but will turn 21 way before matriculation (I'll be 21 in October)? I'm really hoping that little fact gets glossed over in my interviews.

You are not alone, I am also doing that.

Anyway, only 1500 out of 1600? Not impressive at all.


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[xXIDaShizIXx]

I am applying at the age of 18. I will have my MDapplicants profile linked after my I take the MCAT and receive my score. I have had a few people who say the age difference may help OR hurt my chances. You don't necessarily have to be a genius to do this, just a hard worker.

 

[gettheleadout]

Spoken like someone who has never been in the lab on a serious basis. Many PhD students finish with one first author publication. My PI's paper was published AFTER he got his PhD, and he told us it was a very difficult project. Some projects are just HARD. Some relatively easier projects may get you 3 first-author papers. It depends ...

Just want to say that from working in a lab and speaking with grad students at a very respected institution, I completely agree with you.


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[reef]

Anyway, only 1500 out of 1600? Not impressive at all.

I think it's pretty impressive considering he was 8 years old at that time...what did you get on your SAT at age 17 when applying for colleges?

 

[Mokthraka]

According to the AAMC MSQ, 0.2% of medical school matriculants are under age 20 when they start. That's like 25 people per year!

your math... it checks out.

 

[jjeangi]

Tiger moms are destroying the world.

 

[Stumpyman]

I am applying at the age of 18. I will have my MDapplicants profile linked after my I take the MCAT and receive my score. I have had a few people who say the age difference may help OR hurt my chances. You don't necessarily have to be a genius to do this, just a hard worker.

I know a 17 year old applying as well. I think it's more of the fact that Yano got into med school at 12 (and college at 8 or 9) that's more eye-opening, rather than him being 21 and having an MD.

 

[Haislip]

cool kid

 

[xXIDaShizIXx]

I know a 17 year old applying as well. I think it's more of the fact that Yano got into med school at 12 (and college at 8 or 9) that's more eye-opening, rather than him being 21 and having an MD.

Yeah I'm 17 right now. I agree, it is definitely a feat to enter at 12 and now have an M.D., Ph.D., I thought having professors ask how old I was as a 15 year old freshman was odd, but being 12 had to be outrageous.

 

[moneytree]

Is he gonna be making it rain?

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