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    Does it matter if your science classes come from a 4 year or 2 year university? what about non-science classes? Have any of you who have taken classes at 2 year colleges been questioned about that on your interviews?

    thanks for the input!
     

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      nazkaz said:
      Does it matter if your science classes come from a 4 year or 2 year university? what about non-science classes? Have any of you who have taken classes at 2 year colleges been questioned about that on your interviews?

      thanks for the input!


      I have 2 non-science bachelor degrees obviously from a 4 yr. university. I took all my prereqs from a JC and 5 upper division science classes from a 4 yr. institution. I was never questioned in my interview.
       

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        nazkaz said:
        Does it matter if your science classes come from a 4 year or 2 year university? what about non-science classes? Have any of you who have taken classes at 2 year colleges been questioned about that on your interviews?

        thanks for the input!

        I took my anatomy and phisiology courses at a JC because the local 4 yr college classes were full. I was never questioned about it.
         
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          nazkaz said:
          Does it matter if your science classes come from a 4 year or 2 year university? what about non-science classes? Have any of you who have taken classes at 2 year colleges been questioned about that on your interviews?

          thanks for the input!

          I am far from an expert, but most dental school's websites mention that the University you attended is taken into consideration during admissions. A Harvard grad with a 3.2 science GPA would obviously be regarded higher than someone who had the same GPA at a local community college.

          I failed to take my Ochem lab at the university I attended so I am forced to take it at a local community college in Phoenix. I am amazed at the difference in course load / quality of learning. I think dental schools would be stupid not to take that into consideration.

          With that said, I know plenty of people who are now in dental/medical school that took many of their courses at a community college. My advice would be to take as many science courses at the university level as possible, if for nothing else to prove to yourself that you can endure a rigorous course load.
           

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            Ruprick said:
            I am far from an expert, but most dental school's websites mention that the University you attended is taken into consideration during admissions. A Harvard grad with a 3.2 science GPA would obviously be regarded higher than someone who had the same GPA at a local community college.

            I failed to take my Ochem lab at the university I attended so I am forced to take it at a local community college in Phoenix. I am amazed at the difference in course load / quality of learning. I think dental schools would be stupid not to take that into consideration.

            With that said, I know plenty of people who are now in dental/medical school that took many of their courses at a community college. My advice would be to take as many science courses at the university level as possible, if for nothing else to prove to yourself that you can endure a rigorous course load.

            I have to agree here, a few of my friends took chem courses at a community college and were suprised at the difference in difficulty levels. They took the first semester g-chem at a community college and then when they transfered to a university and took g-chem second semester, they thought it was more difficult because of the way the classes were structured.

            I think they should look higher upon which university you went to..Because i hope that the extra money i am spending to go to a more "prestigious" school will have been worth it.
             

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              nazkaz said:
              what about physics...can that be taken from a JC?

              Back to what I previously said: I would recommend taking as many science courses as possible at the university level. If you take all of your science classes except physics at a university and have a competitive GPA in all, I'm sure you'd be fine (barring any major problems with you application/DAT scores).
               

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                I attended a JC and transferred to a 4 year U. my Junior year, in the interviews several of them mentioned that they had no issues with that because my grades were consistant. If you ace the JC classes and do mediocre at the next level they will wonder about the JC.
                 

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                  AUG2UAG said:
                  do whatever you have to do to get the best possible grades. who gives a flying sh!t where you go to school? a 3.5 from 10 sh!tty schools is better than a 3.0 from harvard or ucla. end of discussion.

                  Again, I am no expert -- but this is debatable. My local community college offers an education on par with my high school, and one would think that the dental school admissions people are aware of the discrepancies.

                  To give you an idea, my friend just got an A in both Ochem 1 and 2 from a community college in Phoenix, never opened his book and admittedly didn't learn a thing. Maybe it's pride--but I would hope this guy doesn't have a better chance than me to get into dental school even if his science GPA is higher.

                  Once again, though, we are not contending that an applicant cannot get into dental school with science JC courses. We are just recommending that, if possible, this person takes some science courses at the university level.
                   

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                    I would say, don't take any sciences, especially pre-reqs, at a JC unless you have some other reason besides easiness and/or grade. For example, a friend of mine took ochem II at a JC because she needed to take it in the summer and my college doesn't offer ochem in the summer, and she was fine - but I'd be leery of taking any prereqs at a JC (except MAYBE physics) just for GPA reasons. Yes, everyone here hasn't had a problem so far, but what do you say if they ask you? Just make sure to have a semi-valid reason other than grades. Just my $.02 :)
                     

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                      AUG2UAG said:
                      just call ucla school of medicine, and again i speak from actually doing it... not all of us don't know how to wipe our ass

                      I'm done arguing with you, but since reading comprehension doesn't seem to be one of your strong points, I'll spell it out for you:

                      I never said one can't get into a professional school with science JC course. I merely recommended taking them at the university level because, in my experience, there is an OBVIOUS dropoff in quality of education and course load. Not only would this help in the admissions process, but it would help when taking 20+ credit hours of science per semester in dental school.

                      Capiche?
                       

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                        AUG2UAG said:
                        very obvious

                        i would like to see this myself, as of this point i think your full of horse doodoo because it's most likely that most dental schools will not have this narrow pov

                        first of all, someone who doesn't attend a 4 year is not going to be eligible for admissions, which makes your statement void. besides, you're stating the obvious and that's why adcoms add ~0.30 to such student's gpa who attends a "top 25" school. they will never take away from a person's gpa if they don't attend a "top 25" school. personally, i sh!t on 0.30

                        i think your stupid for thinking what you think dental schools think :confused: . joining a sequential class like orgo, you'll be at a disadvantage coming into it during the 2nd part of the course... anywhere. also, don't be so dumb to generalize JC's: the orgo teacher at santa monica college recieved her PhD in chemistry (ACS) from ucla, furthermore professors from local universities teach at local community colleges.

                        the only thing you said that i agree.

                        There you go with the name calling again. Got nothing better to do than to pick apart posts on an internet message forum? Stop thread crapping and give this guy some useful advice.

                        Seriously, lose the condescending tone and you might make a few friends. I don't have time to respond to every point you took out of context, nor do I want to waste the time.

                        Later, dude.
                         

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                          AUG2UAG said:
                          you're still full of crap because you can't prove "most dental schools" say what you claim they do. also, you sound like a white mom saying "lose that tone of voice"; go play with your dirty filth-hole you nasty troll

                          Seriously, I'm flattered. I love you, too. :love:
                           
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