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For Gods sake....to my American friends...for the sake of not only US security but world security, PLEASE VOTE FOR KERRY!
Not that Kerry is great, but he is just the lesser of two evils!
Not that Kerry is great, but he is just the lesser of two evils!
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I AGREE WITH MY FRIEND A!
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Lines will be long; bring a book with you.
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...for Bush. 😀 😉ItsGavinC said:
Dr.BadVibes said:
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Bush is #1 and my vote in FL has been cast!!!
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Voted for Bush. 😀
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Hey Gavin, set up a Bush/Kerry poll in here and see if we think like the rest of the country
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Heard a great comment from the professor in pathology lecture this morning: "It's easy to be liberal when you're young, because you don't have squat and you want what everyone else has! Then when you're older and you've earned some money, you don't want anybody else taking your money away from you for their little pet causes!"
In Dr. Summerlin's defense, he's not nearly as Republican as that comment makes him out to be; he's more of a self-proclaimed anarchist. 😉
In Dr. Summerlin's defense, he's not nearly as Republican as that comment makes him out to be; he's more of a self-proclaimed anarchist. 😉
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http://johnkerryads.websiteanimal.com/Dr.BadVibes said:
Or the greater of two liars . . . ? (turn up your volume)
Go ahead and be passionate (but appropriate please!) here about your arguments guys--this thread will be deleted tomorrow.
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LOL. I usually don't laugh this early in the morning, but just this once...
(There's probably a reason that Al Quaeda has endorsed Kerry)
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BUSH,
VOTE FOR BUSH!!!! I think Bush has done a pretty decent job considering what he has dealt with....No other president had to put up with 9/11 and I think he has done well bringing the economy back. I agree I don't see eye to eye with him in all aspects but I agree the most with his issues over Kerry. VOTE FOR BUSH!!!
VOTE FOR BUSH!!!! I think Bush has done a pretty decent job considering what he has dealt with....No other president had to put up with 9/11 and I think he has done well bringing the economy back. I agree I don't see eye to eye with him in all aspects but I agree the most with his issues over Kerry. VOTE FOR BUSH!!!
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"If you're not a liberal when you're 25, you have no heart. If you're not a conservative by the time you're 35, you have no brain"
-Winston Churchhill
i think your professor stole it. 😀
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Yeah, that's a paraphrase of the Churchill quote. I stuck the original in the dental board's version of this thread. Faced with the choice, I'd rather be heartless than brainless. 😉
Who did you vote for?
Kerry is the smarter of the 2... and heavy turn out will favor him. Ohio polls have an average waiting in-line of 2 hours this morning, it's a record turn-out.
I predict, Ohio and Penn go to Kerry, Floride to Bush... 49% of the nation will be really upset if Bush wins. What kind of leadership will that be? 😀
I predict, Ohio and Penn go to Kerry, Floride to Bush... 49% of the nation will be really upset if Bush wins. What kind of leadership will that be? 😀
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The Poll thread was combined with this thread to facilitate easier cleanup of this "mess" ( 😀 ) following the election.
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"Based on what?" indeed. For all the condescending, elitist punches pulled against the President, I've never seen anybody put together anything resembling a coherent argument in support of that conclusion.dprice121 said:
On the other hand: http://www.vdare.com/sailer/kerry_iq_lower.htm
Bulletproof? Of course not. But it's more compelling evidence than the opposing position has mounted so far.
Voted for Bush...
It's pretty sad when Kerry supporters aren't voting for HIM as a candidate, but against Bush. I haven't met anyone who actually voted for Kerry because they liked his platform (for the day, it'll change later on.)
Go BUSH!!!!
It's pretty sad when Kerry supporters aren't voting for HIM as a candidate, but against Bush. I haven't met anyone who actually voted for Kerry because they liked his platform (for the day, it'll change later on.)
Go BUSH!!!!
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Not at all the same. Please cite some examples.
Based 1-on-1 in the debates....dprice121 said:
Did you know Bush got a scholarship while he was in Yale that was very hard to get then.... "Barbara Bush Scholarship!" 😀
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More specifically? What makes you say Kerry is the smarter of the 2 based on the 1-on-1 debates? Examples please.
If you make a statement like that, please be ready to back it up.
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i don't want to get political on this forum, but since you guys raised it here are my brief comments about why kerry is lesser of two evils based on domestic issues!
1) We are all scientist of some sort or another on this forum. We appreicate what the advancements it has done for society and in no way or shape do we want or limit this advancement to help out humanity. Weren't scientist of the past being prosecuted for having such wild htoughts as the earth is flat? Why are doing the same thing again now with advancement of science by hindering it with no stem cell research?
2) I came to this country because I could have my freedom of what I want to do without interference from the government or fear of prosecution ( i came from the middle east). Now I have moral believes just like anybody else but I don't want my believes to affect other people, because they are my believes! I ask you why bush can have his religious believes affect the lives of millions of people around the United States. Then why do the Bush voters accept what Bush is doing with the gay issue? Gay people are not harming you in any fashion, they just want their rights respected. Why would an 80 old man who lived with his love for 50 years not be allowed to have his money after his love dies? Now the 80 year old man is homeless.
3) The same issue as #2, laws are made by reasoning and thought, not irrational conclusions. Remember how alcohol was banned?
Let the bashing of my comments begin🙂
(p.s. any spelling errors are copyrighted to rocknightmare.)
1) We are all scientist of some sort or another on this forum. We appreicate what the advancements it has done for society and in no way or shape do we want or limit this advancement to help out humanity. Weren't scientist of the past being prosecuted for having such wild htoughts as the earth is flat? Why are doing the same thing again now with advancement of science by hindering it with no stem cell research?
2) I came to this country because I could have my freedom of what I want to do without interference from the government or fear of prosecution ( i came from the middle east). Now I have moral believes just like anybody else but I don't want my believes to affect other people, because they are my believes! I ask you why bush can have his religious believes affect the lives of millions of people around the United States. Then why do the Bush voters accept what Bush is doing with the gay issue? Gay people are not harming you in any fashion, they just want their rights respected. Why would an 80 old man who lived with his love for 50 years not be allowed to have his money after his love dies? Now the 80 year old man is homeless.
3) The same issue as #2, laws are made by reasoning and thought, not irrational conclusions. Remember how alcohol was banned?
Let the bashing of my comments begin🙂
(p.s. any spelling errors are copyrighted to rocknightmare.)
I am not saying Bush is not smart, but if you watched closely in the 1st debate... Kerry's knowledge on foreign policy and economy made more sense. I am not even going to argue on what was already broadcasted on national television... all the examples you need was in that debate.snoopdoug said:
For your info... consider Bush's Resume (obviously, some minor errors included) 😉 :
Name: George W. Bush
Residence: The White House (until January 2005), a ranch in Crawford, TX, and assorted homes owned by my family. (I didn't serve in Vietnam, or any other armed conflict, and I was honorably discharged from the National Guard even though I missed several months of required service.)
Experience: As President, I've promoted programs that I thought would get me re-elected, even when they clashed with my personal beliefs. I have turned a federal budget surplus into the largest budget deficit since Reagan, and am the first president since Herbert Hoover to complete a term in office with a net loss in jobs. I supported No Child Left Behind, even though I have not provided funding for it. I chose as my Secretary of Education a man who, during his former tenure as Supt. of the Houston School District, presided over fraud and misrepresentation in order to win recognition for improvements in student retention. My appointee as attorney general has presided over some of the most egregious violations of civil liberties for Americans since the McCarthy Era. At the same time, my choice as head of immigration enforcement has publicly said he cannot and will not enforce immigration laws. I've benefited from nepotism and family connections. Won election to the governorship of Texas on my family's coattails.
Am a failed small businessman, propped up by family money and influence. . (I didn't serve in Vietnam, or any other armed conflict, and I was honorably discharged from the National Guard even though I missed several months of required service.)
Military: I used family connections to get into the National Guard and thereby avoided being sent to Vietnam. I have an unexplained period in which I did not report for duty as required. I did not report for my flight physical as required, and was disqualified from flying, thereby wasting the million dollars or so the military had invested in my training. However, family connections helped to cover that up. The only experience I have in a combat zone is my landing (in a flight suit) on a carrier deck while I was President, and my one-day visit to Iraq.
Education: Yale and Harvard. Was turned down by the University of Texas law school—family connections didn't work there—so I did an M.B.A. at Harvard. Graduated with gentleman's C. Have no respect for educational accomplishment or intellectual curiosity. My M.B.A. was no help in my experience as a businessman (See "Experience" above.) . (I didn't serve in Vietnam, or any other armed conflict, and I was honorably discharged from the National Guard even though I missed several months of required service.)
Accomplishments: Being born into a patrician and wealthy American family. My paternal grandfather is a former Senator. My maternal grandfather was publisher of McCall's magazine. My father is a former President of the United States who extended the family fortune into gas and oil (and who currently "works" for Carlisle Group, a private investment bank doing much of its business with Saudi Arabia). My brother is governor of Florida. As President of the U.S., I reported gross income of over $800,000 (including the President's salary, which I have continued to take). As President, and a former governor of Texas, I will collect pensions and benefits from both, as well as lifetime perqs such as Secret Service protection as a former President. . (I didn't serve in Vietnam, or any other armed conflict, and I was honorably discharged from the National Guard even though I missed several months of required service.)
Records and References: None. Somehow, my DUI records were covered up before the Governor's race in Texas. My National Guard records are largely missing, though some keep cropping up whenever there is pressure from the media.
Personal: I practice my born-again faith every day as President, even to the extent of sending the U.S. military on a "crusade" against Saddam Hussein. I don't ask my father, a former President, for advice on military matters, but look to a "higher father"—which is why I ordered the war in Iraq even though I do not have a plan for extricating us from the region. I spent a month (the longest vacation by a President) chopping wood on my ranch in Crawford, Texas. My family's holdings include gas and oil interests, which I have used the U.S. military to zealously protect in Iraq. My vice-president **** Cheney is the former head of (and now has a golden parachute from) Halliburton, a major player in the petroleum industry. The company is now under investigation for overcharging the U.S. government by billions of dollars in a contract which they did not have to compete for. Everything that goes wrong (recession, 9/11, etc.) is Bill Clinton's fault, even though I've been President for four years.
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING
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Okay, if you want to compare resumes, then here's Kerry's. I'll only post one of them, but there are several other good ones. I'm still laughing after reading this one.
http://www.rushonline.com/kerry/resume.htm
http://www.useless-knowledge.com/articles/apr/aug054.html
John Kerry's Resume
Monday, October 25, 2004
NAME: John Kerry
RESIDENCE: *Seven mansions, including one in Washington, D.C., worth multi-millions. I served in Vietnam (four months).
EXPERIENCE:
Law Enforcement. *In my career as a U.S. Senator, I've voted to cut every law enforcement, CIA, and defense bill.* I ordered the city of Boston to remove a fire hydrant in front of my mansion, thereby endangering my neighbors in the event of fire. *I served in Vietnam (four months).
MILITARY:
I served in Vietnam (four months). *I used three minor injuries to get an early discharge from the military and service in Vietnam (as documented by the attending doctor). *I served in Vietnam (four months).* I then returned to the United States, joined Jane Fonda in protesting the war, and insulted returning Vietnam vets, claiming they committed atrocities and were baby killers.* I served in Vietnam (four months). *I threw my medals, ribbons, or something away in protest. Or did I? *My book ''Vietnam Veterans Against the War: The New Soldier,'' shows how I truly feel about the military.* I served in Vietnam (four months).
COLLEGE:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average.* Unlike my counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an M.B.A
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
After college and Vietnam, I ran for the U.S. Congress and have been there ever since.* I have no real world experience except marrying very rich women and running their companies vicariously through them. *I served in Vietnam (four months).
ACCOMPLISHMENTS:
As a U.S. Senator, I set the record for the most liberal voting record, exceeding even Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. *I have consistently failed to support our military and CIA by voting against their budgets, thus gutting our country's ability to defend itself. *Although I voted for the Iraq War, now I am against it and refuse to admit that I voted for it. I voted for every liberal piece of legislation.* I have no plan to help this country but I intend to raise taxes significantly if I am elected. *I served in Vietnam (four months).
My wealth so far exceeds that of my counterpart, George Bush, that he will never catch up.* I make little or no charitable contributions and have never agreed to pay any voluntary excess taxes in Massachusetts, despite family wealth in excess of $700 million. *I served in Vietnam (four months).
I (we) own 28 manufacturing plants (Heinz) outside of the United States*in places like Asia, Mexico, and Europe.* We can make more profit from the cheaper cost of labor in those countries, although I blame George Bush for sending all of the other jobs out of country.* I served in Vietnam (four months).
Although I claim to be in favor of alternative energy sources, Ted Kennedy and I oppose windmills off Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard as it might spoil our view of the ocean as we cruise on our yachts.* I served in Vietnam (four months).
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
None. *However, I served in Vietnam (four months).
PERSONAL: *I practice my Catholic faith whenever cameras are present. *I ride a Serotta Bike.* I love to ski/snowboard.* I call my Gulfstream V Jet the ''Flying Squirrel.'' I call my $850,000 42-foot Hinckley twin diesel yacht the ''Scarmouche.''
I am fascinated by rap and hip-hop and feel it reflects our real culture.
I own several ''Large'' SUVs including one parked at my Nantucket summer mansion, though I am against large, polluting, inefficient vehicles and blame George Bush for our energy problems.* I served in Vietnam (four months).
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.
http://www.rushonline.com/kerry/resume.htm
http://www.useless-knowledge.com/articles/apr/aug054.html
John Kerry's Resume
Monday, October 25, 2004
NAME: John Kerry
RESIDENCE: *Seven mansions, including one in Washington, D.C., worth multi-millions. I served in Vietnam (four months).
EXPERIENCE:
Law Enforcement. *In my career as a U.S. Senator, I've voted to cut every law enforcement, CIA, and defense bill.* I ordered the city of Boston to remove a fire hydrant in front of my mansion, thereby endangering my neighbors in the event of fire. *I served in Vietnam (four months).
MILITARY:
I served in Vietnam (four months). *I used three minor injuries to get an early discharge from the military and service in Vietnam (as documented by the attending doctor). *I served in Vietnam (four months).* I then returned to the United States, joined Jane Fonda in protesting the war, and insulted returning Vietnam vets, claiming they committed atrocities and were baby killers.* I served in Vietnam (four months). *I threw my medals, ribbons, or something away in protest. Or did I? *My book ''Vietnam Veterans Against the War: The New Soldier,'' shows how I truly feel about the military.* I served in Vietnam (four months).
COLLEGE:
I graduated from Yale University with a low C average.* Unlike my counterpart George Bush, I have no higher education and did not get admitted to Harvard nor graduate with an M.B.A
PAST WORK EXPERIENCE:
After college and Vietnam, I ran for the U.S. Congress and have been there ever since.* I have no real world experience except marrying very rich women and running their companies vicariously through them. *I served in Vietnam (four months).
ACCOMPLISHMENTS:
As a U.S. Senator, I set the record for the most liberal voting record, exceeding even Ted Kennedy and Hillary Clinton. *I have consistently failed to support our military and CIA by voting against their budgets, thus gutting our country's ability to defend itself. *Although I voted for the Iraq War, now I am against it and refuse to admit that I voted for it. I voted for every liberal piece of legislation.* I have no plan to help this country but I intend to raise taxes significantly if I am elected. *I served in Vietnam (four months).
My wealth so far exceeds that of my counterpart, George Bush, that he will never catch up.* I make little or no charitable contributions and have never agreed to pay any voluntary excess taxes in Massachusetts, despite family wealth in excess of $700 million. *I served in Vietnam (four months).
I (we) own 28 manufacturing plants (Heinz) outside of the United States*in places like Asia, Mexico, and Europe.* We can make more profit from the cheaper cost of labor in those countries, although I blame George Bush for sending all of the other jobs out of country.* I served in Vietnam (four months).
Although I claim to be in favor of alternative energy sources, Ted Kennedy and I oppose windmills off Nantucket and Martha's Vineyard as it might spoil our view of the ocean as we cruise on our yachts.* I served in Vietnam (four months).
RECORDS AND REFERENCES:
None. *However, I served in Vietnam (four months).
PERSONAL: *I practice my Catholic faith whenever cameras are present. *I ride a Serotta Bike.* I love to ski/snowboard.* I call my Gulfstream V Jet the ''Flying Squirrel.'' I call my $850,000 42-foot Hinckley twin diesel yacht the ''Scarmouche.''
I am fascinated by rap and hip-hop and feel it reflects our real culture.
I own several ''Large'' SUVs including one parked at my Nantucket summer mansion, though I am against large, polluting, inefficient vehicles and blame George Bush for our energy problems.* I served in Vietnam (four months).
PLEASE CONSIDER MY EXPERIENCE WHEN VOTING IN 2004.
snoop...
Have it any way you want it... Bush will not win easily (if he does!). Thats the best case scenario for him.
Have it any way you want it... Bush will not win easily (if he does!). Thats the best case scenario for him.
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Mo007 said:
And isn't that the best case scenario for Kerry? I never said either candidate was going to win by a landslide. I never even hypothesized who was going to win at all. All I've said is that I voted for Bush. And then I challenged your statement that Kerry was smarter. That's all.
That's fair...snoopdoug said:
This is fun to follow, hopefully we will recap this issue when the results come out this evening.
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ItsGavinC said:LOL. I usually don't laugh this early in the morning, but just this once...
(There's probably a reason that Al Quaeda has endorsed Kerry)
ha umm.. if u listened to the latest bin ladin tape, he actually favors bush... wonder why??
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omaralt said:
btw, this is bin ladins exact words from the transcript of his tape:
"Rather, the policy of the White House that demands the opening of war fronts to keep busy their various corporations - whether they be working in the field of arms or oil or reconstruction - has helped al-Qaida to achieve these enormous results."
this is the link to see his entire speech
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/79C6AF22-98FB-4A1C-B21F-2BC36E87F61F.htm
I voted for W. Kerry's plans insult the intelligence of educated Americans.
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