First off, I think the term gunners is a silly stereotype that pidgeon-holes people just like any other. Moreover, I think that people who overtly resent gunners are either so insecure about their own abilities (and are the type who never try too hard in case they fail, so that they have an excuse), or are just jealous. That being said, I would not consider myself a gunner. I do well in school, and occasionally I try hard, but I drank a lot in college (so, I don't take myself too seriously). In fact, getting caught for 3 drinking offenses is what kept me out of some of my dream schools, although I am very happy just getting in with all the stupid crap I did. ANyway, more to the point. Who are we to really judge these people. The way I interpret it, gunners are defined as people who do things for the sole purpose of achieving a goal. Unless I am mistaken, this is somewhat admirable. Competitiveness aside, doing things for a goal is good. It may breed insincerity, but at least they are doing worthwhile things. And, about competition--in the words of "the Donald": nobody has ever achieved anything great without being at least a little competitive (paraphrasing). Meaning, we all are, let's just embrace it in a non-destructive way. Sorry if this turned cheesy (yea, I am embarassed about quoting Donald Trump, but hey), but some recent posts about "gunners" at certain schools just got me thinking. You (we, whatever) are never going to avoid driven people who do things to actively achieve goals--if that is a gunner, sign me up.