A New MCAT Test

[RobbingReality]

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This is an interesting thought and a funny story I wanted to share with you.

Saturday, right after finishing the physical science section of the MCAT we are allowed to take our10 minute break. On the floor the test was being administered there are two bathrooms, one boys and one girls. Now imagine 150 people trying to cram into these bathrooms to use them. You can just imagine the line that pursued, girls worst than guys. So I thought to myself there has to be another bathroom around here somewhere, so I trekked off in search of one. It did not take me 3 minutes to find another bathroom on a different floor. Thus, I got the job done and laughed at all those other people who did not get to use the bathroom because they could not think for themselves.

This is what I want to pose to you. What kind of people want to become doctors that they can?t even think outside the box and use the bathroom. Now I am an average student no genius mind you, but I know if I have to use the bathroom and I only have a few minutes, you better bet I am going to find another bathroom. Those people could have been the next biggest thing in the world of medicine, but if they do not have common sense I do not want them operating on me. That is why I think the MCAT need to be based more on thinking skills and not memorizing facts.

 

[DrLady]

Thats it! Yes, AAMC people, please make a very very important note:

We have to have a new MCAT because maybe some people did not know the building well enough or did not think enough to go look for another bathroom in a 10-min break!! These people are reeeeeeallly dangerous because of not thinking outside the box.



🙄 🙄

 

[doctorperez]

I am with you 100% my brother!

 

[microgateway]

actually it is about thinking....it tests your "CRITICAL THINKING" ability...which is why for the sciences, the only requirement are introductory courses....you are suppose to draw from the passages the correct answer based on the info they give you with the limited knowlege base you might have....i bet for the majority of the questions, you can easily break it down and realize how to pull the answer out from the text......

-there is no longer any point why this thread must continue

take care

 

[closertofine]

I see your point...but don't be so quick to jump to judgment about others' reasons for staying in line. I was paranoid that my proctor would lock me out of the test room (as she had warned she would do) if I somehow came back a minute too late...and actually that's really not so paranoid, considering that she "forgot" to announce the 5-minutes-left mark on the physical sciences section! So I thought I'd be safest with a lot of other people who would go knock on the test room door with me if we all got locked out! 😀

 

[aydinhatemi]

Welcome to real world?
90% of people fallow the herd. I see people go buy textbook for 100$ which is also avaliabla online for only 60$. They see other people doing it and they think it is the right thing. Many things I did people told me I am crazy. I went to my prof's office in the middle of summer asking for my final exam paper. (it was called CS416) He of course gave it to me, and see I found out that he misgraded it. He changed my grade from 'B' to "A" 1 month after the end of the semester. I know none of my friends did that.
Life is thinking out of the box...

 

[specialk]

This HAS to be the dumbest thread I've ever read. Are you kidding me? You CAN'T be serious with that crap. They don't look around for a bathroom IN A TEN MINUTE BREAK and you condemn them to being terrible doctors? This is by far the worst use of web space I've seen in a while. I honestly thought that this thread was a joke, but it kept getting more and more real! Oh well, I guess the "MCAT discussion thread" has crashed and burned.

 

[uniqueseraph]

There you go.

 

[Amit1]

WTF???? You are pretty proud of yourself for finding a bathroom. You took a piss - we all do it, its no big deal.

 

[Tweetie_bird]

ok boys, play nice or this Mod's gonna pull her measuring tape out to do some reeeeeeeal measurin'. 😳 😛





But seriously, keep it clean.

 

[Fenrezz]

Originally posted by RobbingReality
That is why I think the MCAT need to be based more on thinking skills and not memorizing facts.

Sounds like you'd make a great urologist.

Maybe we can turn the MCAT in to one of those rat maze experiments. Let people loose in a building and the first one to find the bathroom gets a 45, and full ride at Hopkins.

Verbal can be how well you ask for directions to the bathroom. Physical Sciences can your ability to calculate the velocity of your urine, and the angle of trajectory as it hits the stall. Biological section can be how well you wash your hands afterwards. Person with the least amount of bacteria on their fingers earns themselves a 15 (correcting for those who may have more bacteria growing on their members to begin with).

I think you're on to something!

 

[DO_messenger]

I totally agree with the original poster... you guys all suck and were probably the dumb ones standing in line and are trying to make yourselves feel better by justifying your stupid actions. Very demeaning actions for this board I think.

I agree with the poster because as I was leaving my test, the admin said we had 10 min, and if you were late at all your test would be voided. I really needed to go the bathroom, so I raced out of the room only to find my section was the last section released. There was actually a line out of the bathroom for the women AND MEN!! So I think, this is totally stupid, no way will I make it back to the test after going through this line, so I go upstairs, hoping that not as many people were up there. Well it turns out the bath room had like 1 person in it.

I couldn?t believe it, who am I taking this awful test with, a bunch of damn *****s!

Then I come on to this board and read all the crap you all are spewing all over, and I am now verified in my statement.

You all should feel ashamed.

 

[specialk]

Well I guess you're right. I mean, how stupid of us to think that the way you piss SHOULDN'T be a determining factor in medical school admissions. Wow, we're SO ignorant. But at least we're not so arrogant as to assume that people who wait in a line to take a piss aren't total dumb@sses and that finding a quicker way to take a piss validates us for medical school! Geez, you're so friggin' dense. I personally had no problem at my test center -- there were NO lines to the bathroom. And I have no problem with someone finding a quicker way to use the bathroom at their testing site. BUT TO COME ON HERE AND CALL EVERYONE ELSE WHO DIDN'T AN IDIOT AND TO SAY THAT THE MCAT ISN'T AS IMPORTANT AS AIMING YOUR "MEMBER" INTO A HOLE IS THE MOST *****IC THING I'VE EVER HEARD!!! So either grow up or start studying for the August MCAT bud.

 

[Samoa]

Originally posted by RobbingReality
This is an interesting thought and a funny story I wanted to share with you.

Saturday, right after finishing the physical science section of the MCAT we are allowed to take our10 minute break. On the floor the test was being administered there are two bathrooms, one boys and one girls. Now imagine 150 people trying to cram into these bathrooms to use them. You can just imagine the line that pursued, girls worst than guys. So I thought to myself there has to be another bathroom around here somewhere, so I trekked off in search of one. It did not take me 3 minutes to find another bathroom on a different floor. Thus, I got the job done and laughed at all those other people who did not get to use the bathroom because they could not think for themselves.

This is what I want to pose to you. What kind of people want to become doctors that they can?t even think outside the box and use the bathroom. Now I am an average student no genius mind you, but I know if I have to use the bathroom and I only have a few minutes, you better bet I am going to find another bathroom. Those people could have been the next biggest thing in the world of medicine, but if they do not have common sense I do not want them operating on me. That is why I think the MCAT need to be based more on thinking skills and not memorizing facts.

Or you could take it on Sunday, and dispense with ALL the associated cr@p.

 

[franked]

Originally posted by Fenrezz
Sounds like you'd make a great urologist.

Maybe we can turn the MCAT in to one of those rat maze experiments. Let people loose in a building and the first one to find the bathroom gets a 45, and full ride at Hopkins...

Fenrezz wins the round for creativity.
I like the ocassional silly thread. As one can see, there are a variety of reasons for why one might not have thought to search out another bathroom. I wouldn't hold it (sorry) against someone for waiting in line. I do know if I saw a line, the first thing I'd think about would be options.

 

[Fenrezz]

Originally posted by DO_messenger
so I go upstairs, hoping that not as many people were up there. Well it turns out the bath room had like 1 person in it.

I guess you and the RobbingReality took the MCAT in the same building. Was that one person in there with you laughing at all those other people who did not get to use the bathroom because they could not think for themselves? Were you both giggling amongst yourselves and high-fiving each other, congratulating each other for your cleverness?

 

[RobbingReality]

You guys crack me up. Some of you took this way to serious, and obviously fall into the group I was talking about. Plus you have probably never been in a real clinical setting and been around different doctors.

I have been working in surgery for three years and I can confidently say there are three types of doctors. The first type are the ones who are complete geniuses. When it comes to knowledge relating to medicine they win hands down, but they are also the ones that misplace instruments when performing the surgery. This is the same group that completely looses it when there is curveball thrown to them during surgery, because they are so use to following procedure they do not know how to improvise. The second group doesn?t know as much about medicine but they always find away to get the job done. The second group always has a higher success rate in surgery because they don?t panic, and nobody around them panics because of them. The second group is willing to ?think outside the box?, because med-school can?t prepare you for the curve balls, only you can do that. Now the third group combines both of these skills, and is undoubtedly the best one. However when I wrote this I was referring to the first group.

 

[specialk]

Thanks for your expertise on the field. It's good to know that after all these years, someone has FINALLY categorized the 3 types of surgeons. Wow, what a relief.

 

[Fenrezz]

Guess I should ask the doctors I shadowed if they ever had to wait a long time to piss during their MCAT. If their response is "oh, man, that line was 10 miles long!" I'll promptly walk out of the room.

 

[beastmaster]

OP:

What would you have done if you had not found a bathroom? 10 minutes is not a long time, and some floors in large universities are twisted and convoluted so absurdly that bathrooms are impossible to find, and there is usually only one per floor and, not always are they in the same spot on every floor. What would you have done? That's right, lost your spot on the bathroom line that counts. I suppose by thinking outside the box you meant outside the logic zone. You still haven't mentioned if anyone from the bathroom on your floor ran out of time and was unable to go.

 

[LUBDUBB]

During the break, I had to take a dump but the stalls were all taken. So I took a dump in the urinal.

How's that for thinking outa the box.

~Lubdubb

 

[Thundrstorm]

I'm taking the MCAT in August and I've decided to insert a catheter to avoid the long bathroom lines. 😀

 

[Amit1]

Originally posted by LUBDUBB
During the break, I had to take a dump but the stalls were all taken. So I took a dump in the urinal.

How's that for thinking outa the box.

~Lubdubb

Thats funny

I feel sorry for the janitor though. Those turds have no way out but by hand.

 

[woolie]

C,mon guys, let's raise the maturity level a little here.

I am totally with Robbing R. about this bathroom thing; didn't you guys ever read about Richard Speck, the guy who broke into a nurses residence in like, 1963 in Chicago, took all these women hostage in a dorm suite and said they were to all wait in room number one, while he took victims into room numer two one by one. Well, what do you think? These women sat in the outside room and did exactly as he said, and each one waited her turn and then went into the second room to be basically killed. Now this is such a famous psycology case because there were 5 or 6 of them, and only one of him. It doesn't make sense but there it is.

Also, who hasn't sat in the library surrounded by about 25 people trying to study but two people keep whispering, etc. Now you KNOW everyone is pretty ticked, but 25 people will tolerate this **** and not say anything - why? 25 is more than 2 irritating, selfish people.

I am definitely the one in the bathroom upstairs, and the one telling them to talk outside, we're studying here! 😉

 

[specialk]

I don't know how to respond to that...that was incredibly pointless. Wow. I mean, killing nurses?! The MCAT?! I think that this discussion is dead...maybe we should just leave it at that? Or maybe someone else has a senseless story to tell to make us change our minds and case the MCAT joint the week before for places to piss? I give up.

 

[LukeWhite]

Hey, not ALL MCAT folks are sheep:

http://www-tech.mit.edu/V116/N40/shorttakes.40n.html

I always tell this story when teaching MCAT, though I didn't know the part about the folding chair. Plenty of initiative to go around in that room, I'd say!

 

[woolie]

Hey! The point of my story is that there is a weird psychology that takes over sometimes where people will do really crazy things and follow the herd, or authority - even when it means they are going to be killed. I mean, why didn't they just tell him to get lost? or why didn't they stand up to him and do anything, like hit him in the head or jump on him?

I thought the bathroom story was interesting in a similar way, about why do we act like this? I'm no psychology major but it was interesting to me too ... 😛 pretty funny about the masked gunman in that article, I laughed out loud!!

 

[indo]

Originally posted by woolie
C,mon guys, let's raise the maturity level a little here.

I am totally with Robbing R. about this bathroom thing; didn't you guys ever read about Richard Speck, the guy who broke into a nurses residence in like, 1963 in Chicago, took all these women hostage in a dorm suite and said they were to all wait in room number one, while he took victims into room numer two one by one. Well, what do you think? These women sat in the outside room and did exactly as he said, and each one waited her turn and then went into the second room to be basically killed. Now this is such a famous psycology case because there were 5 or 6 of them, and only one of him. It doesn't make sense but there it is.

Also, who hasn't sat in the library surrounded by about 25 people trying to study but two people keep whispering, etc. Now you KNOW everyone is pretty ticked, but 25 people will tolerate this **** and not say anything - why? 25 is more than 2 irritating, selfish people.

I am definitely the one in the bathroom upstairs, and the one telling them to talk outside, we're studying here! 😉

Great. We all agree that finding another bathroom so you don't have to wait is smart. However, going online to tell everyone how excessively "smart" you are because you did this is stupid.

 

[indo]

Also, who hasn't sat in the library surrounded by about 25 people trying to study but two people keep whispering, etc. Now you KNOW everyone is pretty ticked, but 25 people will tolerate this **** and not say anything - why? 25 is more than 2 irritating, selfish people

I hate when people in the library talk unless they're studying then I don't get upset. But when some ass master's cell phone rings and he or she starts yelling "I'm in the library...I can't hear you!" its almost worth throwing a book across the room.