Accepted After Orientation?

[jonpalnile]

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Hey all,

I was recently told that I am the next person on the waitlist at the school I'm interested in. They told me that it is possible that I might gain acceptance after orientation week. Find housing and stuff like that is not a problem. If I were to miss orientation week, would I be behind? I know missing any part of med school puts one pretty far behind. Are there any steps I should be taking right now, like studying or somehow getting the orientation material?

It may be possible to defer till next year. Would that be better than missing orientation? Did anybody drop from your class during orientation?

Also I believe MD schools have a deadline that students must be accepted by. Has that deadline already passed?

 

[psychMDhopefully]

Hey all,

I was recently told that I am the next person on the waitlist at the school I'm interested in. They told me that it is possible that I might gain acceptance after orientation week. Find housing and stuff like that is not a problem. If I were to miss orientation week, would I be behind? I know missing any part of med school puts one pretty far behind. Are there any steps I should be taking right now, like studying or somehow getting the orientation material?

It may be possible to defer till next year. Would that be better than missing orientation? Did anybody drop from your class during orientation?

Also I believe MD schools have a deadline that students must be accepted by. Has that deadline already passed?

Orientation is a joke. What mostly happens, the class has a lot of social stuff, and the admins try to instill fear into you so that you don't get out of line.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

It's mainly a period in which you should be doing some work on being social and crap. But realistically maybe at most 2-3 people drop during orientation week.

 

[jonpalnile]

But realistically maybe at most 2-3 people drop during orientation week.

So I get that that's "realistic" but I'm assuming that it's more like that zero ppl drop during orientation? Did anyone drop from your class during orientation?

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I think 2 ppl dropped during our orientation week.

 

[acapnial]

I wish I was accepted after orientation

 

[JustaDO]

So I get that that's "realistic" but I'm assuming that it's more like that zero ppl drop during orientation? Did anyone drop from your class during orientation?

He literally answered your question, how did you assume that "zero ppl drop"?

If you are this worked up over something like orientation week, then get ready for a wild ride ahead.

 

[JustPlainBill]

We had one flunk lunch the first day --- The course director came in and spent from 8-9 going over the course with the first year phase director giving us the "Welcome to Medical School" spiel for real this time, from 9-10 we had a "cursory review of medically relevant general chemistry" (i.e. 1 year of undergrad chemistry) followed by, from 10-11 a "cursory review of medically relevant organic chemistry" (i.e. 1 year of undergrad organic chemistry) and then from 11-12 we had our first class in Cell Science (covered some basic biochem stuff) ---

After lunch, we noticed that one young lady who sat up front with a group of about 3 other young ladies was missing --- didn't see her the rest of the afternoon, didn't see her the next morning....or afternoon...finally, on day 3 of class someone asked around ---

Basically, she realized after 3 classes that she didn't want to spend the rest of her life doing this and walked into the Dean's office and dropped out......

 

[dozitgetchahi]

He literally answered your question, how did you assume that "zero ppl drop"?

If you are this worked up over something like orientation week, then get ready for a wild ride ahead.

There was a dude in my class that was accepted the morning of the white coat ceremony.

People who drop this late in the game are usually doing so because they got accepted at a school that was closer to home/was allopathic rather than osteo/got a scholarship somewhere else etc. Having somebody randomly bail out of medical school altogether during orientation is rare indeed - you don't even know what it's like yet.

 

[jonpalnile]

We had one flunk lunch the first day --- The course director came in and spent from 8-9 going over the course with the first year phase director giving us the "Welcome to Medical School" spiel for real this time, from 9-10 we had a "cursory review of medically relevant general chemistry" (i.e. 1 year of undergrad chemistry) followed by, from 10-11 a "cursory review of medically relevant organic chemistry" (i.e. 1 year of undergrad organic chemistry) and then from 11-12 we had our first class in Cell Science (covered some basic biochem stuff) ---

After lunch, we noticed that one young lady who sat up front with a group of about 3 other young ladies was missing --- didn't see her the rest of the afternoon, didn't see her the next morning....or afternoon...finally, on day 3 of class someone asked around ---

Basically, she realized after 3 classes that she didn't want to spend the rest of her life doing this and walked into the Dean's office and dropped out......

Is it common to learn actual material, even if it is a review of gen chem, during orientation week? From my understanding my school spends orientation the first M-F just going over nuts and bolts + social stuff. Then starting the second Monday real classes begin.

 

[GUH]

Is it common to learn actual material, even if it is a review of gen chem, during orientation week? From my understanding my school spends orientation the first M-F just going over nuts and bolts + social stuff. Then starting the second Monday real classes begin.

At my school we have a course during orientation week that's kind of like a broad psychosocial overview of the medical profession and is not particularly difficult. Someone who joined the class at the end of that week would be able to catch up pretty easily.

And yes; we did have students drop out during that time.

 

[JustPlainBill]

Is it common to learn actual material, even if it is a review of gen chem, during orientation week? From my understanding my school spends orientation the first M-F just going over nuts and bolts + social stuff. Then starting the second Monday real classes begin.

No -- At TCOM during first year way back when (2006 timeframe) they tried to start off with assigned readings during the Orientation and then have lectures where they quizzed the audience -- that really went over like a lead balloon -- kind of like when they wanted us to use "clickers" for class participation lectures -- again, utter failure and the topper? Well, the Ph.D's used Macs and had all of their PPT lectures converted ...except for the figures which would not convert -- so we had a whole lot of powerpoints with blank space and the notation that the figure didn't convert --- Ph.D's had been teaching there for years, they sure as heck weren't going to change for a bunch of in and out in 4 years medical students ---

 

[acapnial]

No -- At TCOM during first year way back when (2006 timeframe) they tried to start off with assigned readings during the Orientation and then have lectures where they quizzed the audience -- that really went over like a lead balloon -- kind of like when they wanted us to use "clickers" for class participation lectures -- again, utter failure and the topper? Well, the Ph.D's used Macs and had all of their PPT lectures converted ...except for the figures which would not convert -- so we had a whole lot of powerpoints with blank space and the notation that the figure didn't convert --- Ph.D's had been teaching there for years, they sure as heck weren't going to change for a bunch of in and out in 4 years medical students ---

Dubin (assuming that's who's behind those shenanigans) picked a random student to pimp during orientation on the day when everyone's family was there at my school just 3 years ago. No assigned reading or classes during orientation though, thank god.

 

[jonpalnile]

Dubin (assuming that's who's behind those shenanigans) picked a random student to pimp during orientation on the day when everyone's family was there at my school just 3 years ago. No assigned reading or classes during orientation though, thank god.

So what do you guys do for the whole week if there's no real classes?

 

[ConfusedChemist]

So what do you guys do for the whole week if there's no real classes?

ORIENTATION

Hence the name..

 

[electrolight]

So what do you guys do for the whole week if there's no real classes?

At our school we did title IX, get to know each other activities, and went over all the different tech we use. I wouldn't be afraid to go out that week

 

[AlbinoHawk DO]

I would have paid not to have to go through orientation.

 

[Drrrrrr. Celty]

I would have paid not to have to go through orientation.

KCU for some reason has a love of keeping the temps in the low 60s in the rooms. Now spend 9-5 in that while being told pretty much stuff we all already knew. It was a painful experience.

 

[acapnial]

So what do you guys do for the whole week if there's no real classes?

Luncheons, social events, sitting in the lecture hall while an education specialist gives a 3 hour lecture on how much it sucks to fail and that if you dont study you will fail so you should study. Some talks about sexual harrassment, the rundown of how they structure the schedule, a good old fashioned dubin style "I will give you a kick in the ass if thats what you need" speech. We also took some quizzes that told us if we were visual, auditory, or kinesthetic learners. Ugh. It was months before certain people would quit saying "I'm a visual learner, you see" every time they wrote something on the board during group study.

 

[Ioannes Paulus]

Apparently, at the school I'm matriculating, the school took feedback from OMSI's seriously and shrunk "orientation week" to 2.5 days. At first I was bummed that I wouldn't be spending social time with classmates but now I'm trying to get as much "off" time during orientation week as possible to get furniture/shop/explore the city before classes start. Now I think 2.5 days is more than enough haha

Also, I'm pretty sure I'm going to @acapnial 's school. Nice to see the changes haha

 

[dozitgetchahi]

I would have paid not to have to go through orientation.

Yeah much of it was totally pointless. I remember orientation being largely aimed at issues that *might* be encountered on clinical rotations when we were about to spend the next two years cramming the books...it just didn't make any sense.

 

[jonpalnile]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I just had one final question. If I am accepted for this year, I'll have a very short amount of time to move 6 hours away. Are there any things that I should do to prepare just in case? What did you have to do before starting med school (other than getting housing)? Should I get a doctor's appt for a physical? I think getting school supplies and furniture shouldn't take longer than a few hours.

 

[JustPlainBill]

So what do you guys do for the whole week if there's no real classes?

Well, if memory serves, --- Had a lecture on the history of the school, the history of medicine, the history of osteopathy complete with video feed from Norm Gevitz, lectures on ethics, introduction to the different members of a "patient treatment team" (i.e. a chance to make everyone and their brother feel important), lots of free time, lectures from upper classmen, student organizations (all organizations are the best on campus/in the nation and you MUST join all of them or your education WILL be lacking and they all are POWERFUL --- so they hold meetings and issue resolutions and then beg pretty, please their representatives at the national level to forward the resolution and then, maybe, get 5 minutes of a legislators time to recognize medical students for 1 minute on the floor of the House of Representatives) --- each night there was usually a mixer at a bar/club/patio --- at TCOM they tried to make it more medically related by having reading and class discussions to scare the bejeezus out of you that you would have to bust your butt to make it.....Heck, in the first class after orientation they actually had an assigned reading and classic Putthoff lecture over the first chapter of Robbins and Cotran -- he gave us a quiz which about 60 percent of the class bombed and there were only like 3-4 100s (most of them were from repeats who were in the class anonymously) -- people were in tears and came out of that visibly shaken ---

After that, things went back to normal with standard lectures over a lot of useless Ph.D type stuff which you promptly forget after boards ---

good times....

 

[jwilliams1993]

Thanks for all the advice guys. I just had one final question. If I am accepted for this year, I'll have a very short amount of time to move 6 hours away. Are there any things that I should do to prepare just in case? What did you have to do before starting med school (other than getting housing)? Should I get a doctor's appt for a physical? I think getting school supplies and furniture shouldn't take longer than a few hours.

Just met a girl last night who found out a week ago she was accepted... our orientation starts on monday. I was accepted two months ago, so I felt a little bit of a rush as well. If you're waiting to be accepted, my advice would be to get some money saved up obviously since you'll need to throw down deposits and rent and stuff. Also, work on getting you immunization record together and getting any boosters or titers taken care of. You'll need to have that stuff done eventually, so may as well get it done now.

 

[hrbird]

It seems like a lot of the schools are starting orientation so early as compared to my school. Does this mean you guys have a longer session in school? Get out earlier for summer? More breaks along the way? Our orientation isn't until the 2nd week of August.

 

[IsWhat]

Just recently finished orientation week and something that stood out to me was how often they mentioned step 1. We have an integrated systems based curriculum, but they weren't joking around - even had third and fourth years come in to talk and they emphisized step 1 studying in first year.

 

[acapnial]

Just recently finished orientation week and something that stood out to me was how often they mentioned step 1. We have an integrated systems based curriculum, but they weren't joking around - even had third and fourth years come in to talk and they emphisized step 1 studying in first year.

That seems a little extreme