The Talibans are not technically terrorists.
www.motherjones.com
It's a pity that we couldn't arm and train the Afghani women. I suspect that they would have a devotion to fighting that would have matched the Taliban.
every thought you can formulate has to include “but…trump”. So hard for you to have just left it with your first statement wasn’t it?
I thought that was a surgeon??
And so hard for you not to white knight your glorious orange one instead of just accepting that in reality multiple administrations going back 20 yrs share blame for this debacle. Seriously, you maga guys are like sad little puppies waiting for your master to get back.
Haven’t mentioned trump once. Sad trump lives rent free In your head.
This thread isn’t about Trump. We went from a planned orderly withdrawal to a bungled emergency evacuation. The planning and execution was terrible.
You couldn't help yourself but to quote me cause I bothered to point out that this clustfk of a withdrawal in Afghanistan started with the floridaman you voted for, and for whom you were too busy cheerleading last year.
Right that's the best place to look for the pulse of America. The comments section on Fox News. 🙄
45 percent of America maybe 50 percent. That’s a lot of people. God bless Lt Col Scheller and every honorable marine.
If your stance is that we should have stayed in Afghanistan another 20 years, and that you disagreed with Trump on foreign policy and on Afghanistan, then fine- you do have a leg to stand on when criticizing the current administration's bungling.
i wish we never stayed in Afghanistan or ever entered Iraq. But once you break something you own it. Nation building was always a bad idea. It failed in Iraq and it failed in Afghanistan.
This is a sunk cost fallacy, and staying there indefinitely would cost wayyy more in blood and treasure than cutting our losses. Ridding Afghanistan of Bin Laden and old al Qaeda was the mission, right? It was accomplished, right? When will western states learn that Afghanistan is called the graveyard of empires for a reason?
www.nbcnews.com
I’m not going to argue with you. The facts speak for themselves. I posted a link to an opinion piece from NBC not Fox. Read it. Biden owns this debacle and the terrorists will be back in full force with more money and more equipment than in 2001. Rather than arguing look at the facts. This is a disaster with real ramifications not just some argument about some progressive social program.
You posted a link to a bunch of speculation and hypothesizing from a warmonger in his opinion piece. Not exactly slam dunk evidence. There are two dozen other countries on earth which probably have as strong if not a stronger presence of ISIS and its sub branches. Should we invade and occupy all of those as well for nebulous security reasons?
I think this nicely sums up the situation.
www.the-sun.com
Or in the shorter Afghan proverb form: “Over an infidel, be happy with a weak Muslim.”
You do realize that Trump freed the current Taliban leadership last year for essentially nothing.
It's obviously an issue. I have no idea how big an issue. Underestimating them would be a mistake.
You mean kind of like how resident physicians should fight for accountability within the infrastructure of the ACGME?
Nah, that's not the residents responsibility. Certainly, they should report missteps, breaking the rules type situations, but this marine was not the equivalent of a resident at all.
Not mismanagement. This was 20 years of a lot of (American) companies making alot of $$. 3 trillion dollars spent with almost no accounting or accountability.
Yeah, if the Afhgan National Army couldn't competently use all that stuff after we trained them, what chance does the Taliban have? The equipment might as well have been thrown in the ocean.
So, I'll concede the night vision goggles are probably the worst of it. Gen 3 night vision is an amazing tool. But even there - let's not get carried away with the idea that we've just birthed a breed of supervillains. Effective night ops are 95% training and tactics and skilled teamwork, enabled by night vision equipment. The goggles are necessary but not sufficient.
And what are they going to do with them? I'll tell you - they're going to dominate and brutalize their fellow Afghans. Which they were already doing. Nothing's changed there.
Let's say for a second that I give this knownothing concern trolling pissant GOP congressional intern the benefit of the doubt and pretend he's not a knownothing concern trolling pissant GOP congressional intern............even without our leftover weapons was literally anybody out there thinking that the Taliban faced any sort of real resistance in Afghanistan? Did we forget that a *186,000 member* Afghan Armed Forces essentially folded overnight?
How would 5000 troops make a big difference? We were losing ground to the taliban already with a full US presence. Military command wanted more troops. It would have continued until only a few areas remained under our control. Then Kabul would have been threatened and we’d be choosing between getting out and massively surging troops.
