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welcome 2 the thread.let's try and build this thread back to the glory of earlier similar threads.........................:luck::xf:
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hi golden dentist....i am trying to read from the books recommended in the reading list ..is taht enough ??i am not really sure how to go about this whole thing...would be able to help ???
 
Hello everyone.
Anyone preparing for ADC final exams. Need help i am set for Nov 2009 exam so any one can help me with the materials or advices thx
 
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goldendentist said:
could you explain what this thread can be used for? u have already done enough damage;might as well close this,it doesn't matter anymore.
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mykejak said:
Hi all!
I am new to this forum and i find it to be very helpful to all those who want to persue their career as a dentist in australia.
I am appearing in the preliminary exam this year in sept.I am looking forward to contributing to this forum and getting help and advice from all of u.
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yes i am too
i am going to sit the prelaminary exam in sep
any help will be apreciated
[email protected]
 
Guys anyone interested in a study group for sept 09 exam.... lets get together
my email id is [email protected]
 
hi everyone
Im neew here
draimyz
location 😛erth
Appearing for march 2010 exam
anyone wanna study together email me at
[email protected]

🙂
 
hi golden dentist..im planning to give my oet in august..any help regarding the study material or the right procedure to prepare for it would be highly appreciated..my email id is [email protected] now im jus preparing from all the material im able to gather from the net..i need a thorough reference..
 
Hey doctors
I'm new here and i think am also quite late in coming here......... 🙁
I'm sitting for ADC part 1 in September..

Any help will be greatly appreciated...........especially concerned with the SAQs part......

Thanks
Waiting at... [email protected]
 
Aimyz said:
hi everyone
Im neew here
draimyz
location 😛erth
Appearing for march 2010 exam
anyone wanna study together email me at
[email protected]

🙂
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hi
iam doing nzdrex on march 2010. need study partner and help as to which books are good for preparing written exam. currently iam in wellington

if you want to study me please email me on [email protected]

or [email protected]

thanks
 
I have a question about the documents needed for the assessment.

ADC requires (according to their website) "Official transcripts of educational courses completed showing subjects, hours, examination results and details of practical and clinical education, in original language."

Now ... do they mean the grades sheet, listing courses, semester hours of each course and the grade? Or they need the syllabus of every course one has ever taken during his dental studies?!?!?!

Please help.
 
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ssilver said:
mykejak Welcome to the forum. 🙂

Please introduce yourself within the format given in post 2 by dentisthyd.
We'll try to be helpful. Plz no violation of copyright and you know why!

We should help each other so we can all pass the bridge.

And dentisthyd thanks for the forum.

Take care
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Hi there,
I am also preparing 4 the ADC exam and looking for any advice or help in that matter plz
ID: MAYA NASRI
status : cleared oet exams
location: PERTH.
country of origin :ENGLAND.
area can help with or need help : Can help in oet exam and need help in ADC prelimnary exam
year of degree: 2002
time in Australia :-17 months
email : [email protected]
 
ID: dentalix
status : cleared oet exams
location: NSW.Australia
country of origin :CORSE.
area can help with or need help : Can help in oet exam and need help in ADC prelimnary exam
year of degree: so long I can't remember😛
time in Australia :12 months
email : alix[email protected]
 
Greetings to all of you .Thanks to dentisthyd for this forum .I just need to gather some material on the ADC first part and study before I can participate to a discussion .I took the OET last month and I an happy to share my experience with the one who want .Good luck to all of you,may the odonto power be with you for this exam.our union will be our strength.
dentalix
 
hi
I'm a denist from iran
can anyone help me about adc final exam?I don't have any information and I realy need someone to tell me about conduct of the exam and books I have too study!?
 
ID: xxxsyd
status : cleared oet exams
location: NSW.Australia
country of origin :India
area can help with or need help : Can help in oet exam and need help in ADC prelimnary exam
year of degree: 2005
time in Australia :4 years
email : [email protected]
 
Hi everyone,
am looking for study partner for ADC part 1 in brisbane, any one interested please contact me.
 
Hi everyone,

I'm sitting for march 2010 in sydney. I'm happy to contact with whose wants to share experience, clear doubts and study.

🙂
 
Hi, I am preparing for my clinical exam , if you and good knowledge of the Books I suggested , it will be easy for you to clear the Theory examination. The latest 2010 MCQ means , you must read it 35 to 45 % of questions come from these. There is a company named Dentalsupply prepare a fresh Book after every exam, if you read that you will have less problem also they suggest you the kind of Books you need to read. The mail address of the Dentalsupply is dentalsupply at mail dot com
Regarding the N.D.B.E material and Kaplans clinical notes got nothing to do with ADC Theory examination these Books and notes are for Canada and USA Exams. Most people get confused and read unwanted stuff and waste the time. I am fully aware of N.D.B.E material and read it but it was of no help to me.
Regarding the Books
Comprehensive review of dentistry by Louis Boucher
Dentistry by R.A. Cawson
Clinical Problem Solving in Dentistry by Edward Odell edition-3
The Handbook of paediatric dentistry by Angus C. Cameron & Richard P. Widmer the latest edition
Hope you are happy with the answer.



deepthi said:
hey hii everyone..could anyone give me ur suggestions regarding the material for adc part 1.am bit confused and dont know which buks to follow..that would be a great help..thanks inadvance.
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pastelito said:
Hi everyone,

I'm sitting for march 2010 in sydney. I'm happy to contact with whose wants to share experience, clear doubts and study.

🙂
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Hi,
I m totally confused as to which books to study for the preparation of ADC part1???do we have any syllabus/course outline to follow for this exam?what subjects are to be focused?basic sciences or clinical sciences??
 
Echinopora
OET: Passed july 08
Prelim: Passed March 09
Clinical: Writing Jan 10
Year of degree: 2007, University of Alberta (Canada)
Residing in: Alberta, Canada

My suggestions are:

OET:
OET material is available from thier website. For the amount of money you are going to be spending on all these tests, just buy the sample dentistry tests and download the general sample tests for free from thier website. This is a very simple english test. If you can read, speak, understand and write english well you will do ok. Remember the rules have changed and you must pass all 4 sections at the same sitting to move on to the preliminary

Preliminary:
Mostly basic clinical science. Any MCQ review will be helpful, but there are definitely repeats from the 1000mcq series. I studied Dental secrets, Australian therapeutic guidlines, US dental decks, Canadian NDEB MCQ, 1000MCQ and reviewed some of the standard texts. Ended up with an A overall. This is not a hard test, it covers basic dentistry. Don't worry about studying complex oral surgery, perio surgery, implants etc. Cover all the basics, know the drugs and how to use them, know how to handle medical emergencies in the dental office.

Final:
I haven't written yet, but my timetable is for 6 days split into 2 3.5 hour blocks each day. First half day is a lecture. 2 full days dedicated to operative dentistry. 1/2 day sessions for endo, perio, pedo, oral medicine, infection control, radiology, oral surgery. I'm studying Dental secrets, Dental decks, SAQ's from the US clinical and PGY programs, Sturdevants operative, McCracken's RPD, Cameron's Pedo, Tan's CUD/CLD, Little&Fallace Management of the medically compromised patient, White&Pharoh Radiology, Shillingburg Fixed Pros, Ingles Endodontics, Carranza's Periodontology, Contemporary OMFS, Australian therapeutic guidelines: Oral and Dental, ADA infection control guidelines, ADA clinical practice guidelines.

There is alot of material to cover for the final. My approach was to start writing study notes from the texts a few months in advance. Now I am just studying review notes and review questions as the test approaches.

Hope that helps

Rob
 
OET Useful info:

OET exam is valid for 2 yrs. Visit there website for more info.

THE OET CENTRE
G.P.O. Box 372
Melbourne Vic. 3001. Australia
Tel + 61 3 9825 3800
Email: [email protected]
Web-site: http://www.occupationalenglishtest.org


Preliminary Exam Information:

When: Exam held 2 times each year. Can be given in India or Australia.
Cost: Approx $1100
Preliminary exam is Valid for 3 years.

Books you MUST read:

MCQs in Dentistry by R.A. Cawson
Oxford Handbook of Clinical Dentistry by Laura Mitchell & David A. Mitchell
Therapeutic Guidelines - Oral and Dental, Ver 1. 2007
Clinical Problem Solving in Dentistry by Odell
Mosby's Dental Dictionary, 2nd Edition
A comprehensive review of dentistry by Bouchers


Where to get these books:

I bought them from Amazon.com. Also some from University of Queensland Bookshop in Brisbane City.

You can also read them at the University of Queensland Library on Turbot st in Brisbane City. If you want to borrow them from there then you pay approx $150 for 1 year membership.


Exam Preparation:

I think you need about 3 months to prepare. Studying approx 8 hrs a day.

Clinical Exam Info:

Exam is held twice each year. You have to do this exam in Australia and you must pass ADC preliminary exam to give this exam.
Exam Cost: $6100

You can do a Melbourne Orientation Training Course for Overseas Dental Graduates. This is a 20 weeks course which helps you to clear the ADC Clinical Exam. You have to pass an entrance exam for this course and there is a separate english language requirement (IELTS etc). They do not accept OET results. You also have to provide a (working with children certificate and police clearance cert). This course is held twice each yr and it costs about $25000.

Good news: There is a very high probability of clearing the ADC clinical exam if you do this course.

Working while studying:

You can work as a dental assistant in Australia while you are trying to clear these exams. Pay is about $40k per year or about $22 per hour.

Other useful information:

If you are planning on moving to australia on a permanent basis then please consider living costs here. Dentist salary here is about $100k to $140k with local experience and approx $70k for a graduate. They may seem high but the cost of living here is very high as well. If you are earning $100k per year then you would pay $25k in tax and 9% to 17% towards superannuation.

Cost to rent a house in Brisbane is about $400 per week (more is Sydney or Melbourne) and to buy a good condition 4 bedroom house is about $400000.

If you need further information then please contact me on [email protected]
 
thank you so much for the suggestions. really appreciate it 🙂
would it be possible for you to e mail the mcqs that i should prepare for adc part 1. my e mail is [email protected]
i would be obliged. good luck guys
 
ID : sirishac
status appearing adc preliminary in sep 2010
location ：Sydney
country of origin ：Bangalore, india
area can help with or need help：oet, adc part-1 and clinical exam
year of degree ：2005
time in Oz ：3 months
email : [email protected]
 
wajr said:
thank you so much for the suggestions. really appreciate it 🙂
would it be possible for you to e mail the mcqs that i should prepare for adc part 1. my e mail is [email protected]
i would be obliged. good luck guys
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i have some mcqs/saqs. will email you soon.
 
wajr said:
thank you so much for the suggestions. really appreciate it 🙂
would it be possible for you to e mail the mcqs that i should prepare for adc part 1. my e mail is [email protected]
i would be obliged. good luck guys
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i have some mcqs/saqs. will email you soon.
 
ID : luotuo502
status: preparing for OET
location ：Sydney
area can help with or need help：oet,adc part-1 and clinical exam👍
year of degree ：2006
email : [email protected]


hi, guys, I am new here. Glad to have so many companions. I will have my oet exam, would you please give me some suggestions or help. I also have some suggestions from our seniors, maybe share with you.You can e-mail me. Thanks!
And I think we should form a group to have discussions by msn.
 
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I don't know ... I'd rather stay away from Dentalsupply.
They call themselves a company, but yet they have no website, the only way to communicate with them is by e-mail ...

Sounds fishy ... I wouldn't pay hundreds of $ to quite "anonymous"/phantom company ...
 
Echinopora
OET: Passed july 08
Prelim: Passed March 09
Clinical: Passed Jan 10
Year of degree: 2007, University of Alberta (Canada)
Residing in: Alberta, Canada

I've recently completed the exam process and thought I should share my experience.

First of all, you are looking at 3 years to finish the whole process, so you should take that into consideration.

The basic layout of the final exam starts with 2 days of written exams (infection control, oral medicine, restorative, perio, prosth, pedo, pathology will all be covered in the short answer and multiple choice. You will also have to design a partial denture (upper/lower). The questions are straigtforward and mostly clinical (ie. a picture or radiographs and treatment plan and how you would manage). For infection control I would suggest getting the ADA clinical guidelines and the ADA infection control guidelines.

The next 4 days are clinical.
Operative has 3 tests, each 3.5 hours long.
#1- Bridge prep and oral exam
#2- Amalgam preps (simple and complex) and restore a previosly prepared complex amalgam preparation. Remember that there are pulps in these teeth, which is important to take into consideration for the complex amalgam. They seem to prefer conventional amalgam preps (G.V Black). I would suggest you do this type of prep as opposed to conservative amalgam preps (Miles Markley) or ultra conservative preps. There will also be an oral exam
#3- Composite preps and restore plus oral exam.

Perio- Full charting on a quadrant, scale a designated area (I had to do Q3&4) and treatment plan whole mouth followed by oral exam. I would suggest getting the perio supplement from the Australian Dental Journal septemper 2009 supplement (v. 54), which is a fairly complete overview of current practices in periodontics.

Pedo- Short oral exam, maybe 25 minutes. All the questions from Cameron. Remineralization and prevention in the high caries risk patient are important. Remember that there are new fluoride guidelines in Australia from the Australian research council for oral health.

Oral Radiology and Oral Surgery: Oral rad you will have to take 2 films in ten minutes (plenty of time). Just make sure you have excellent infection control. Followed by a oral exam, which was fairly in depth. You needed to know pathology, radiographic errors, identify different types of exposures, SLOB rule, some oral path. Oral surgery you will be required to take a history on a patient, answer some questions about thier OPG and medical history and then extract one to several teeth. Followed by a oral exam. Instrument identification, pharmacology, oral diagnosis, oral path and clinical questions about how you would handle the cases shown in pictures. You will be asked about how to handle various medical emergencies in the dental office.

Endodontics- Access openings on 3 teeth, shape and obturate one canal, rubber dam and oral exam in 3 hours. Time management is important. Apical stop prep and cold lateral are expected. This is where I screwed up the most as they have switched to continuously tapering cone and warm vertical obturation here in Canada. Know the average lengths of all the teeth, the possible canal configurations and the probability of finding each configuration. Endo was my worst section.

I think that was it. The examiners are friendly, the questions are fair. Every candidate was extremely nervous (understandably). My biggest caution is not to try anything new in the exam. Don't do anything you haven't done 100 times in practice. Your first time is never that good, so don't let it be during the exam. I tried a few "firsts" in the endodontic clinic and it a) wasted a ton of time because it was unfamiliar and b) it looked terrible. I found stress management the hardest part of the test. I was so nervous I could hardly hold still during the first day of operative.

Most of the candidates in my group were currently working in the public dental system in Australia, I would say at least half of the candidates were working in the PDS. I found that the typodont teeth had differnt consistencies. The ones in crown and bridge were hard and cut like natural tooth. The class II amalgam teeth were standard dentoform teeth, medium softness. The complex amalgam tooth was very soft, many of the candidates had problems with this particular tooth. Don't overwork the tooth, plan the your retention and resistance form before you start preparation and don't nitpick too much or you will overcut the tooth. I made several mistakes in the operative clnic from overcutting because I was trying to make it just perfect. The problem is that you have so much time that you are tempted to keep improving your preps. In the real world you would finish these tasks in a 1-1.5 hours, and they give you 3.5 hours.

Be prepared to support your answers in the oral exams with references to journal articles or specific texts.

Otherwise, good luck
 
Echinopora ... congrats !!! 🙂
 
Echinopora said:
Echinopora
OET: Passed july 08
Prelim: Passed March 09
Clinical: Passed Jan 10
Year of degree: 2007, University of Alberta (Canada)
Residing in: Alberta, Canada

I've recently completed the exam process and thought I should share my experience.

First of all, you are looking at 3 years to finish the whole process, so you should take that into consideration.

The basic layout of the final exam starts with 2 days of written exams (infection control, oral medicine, restorative, perio, prosth, pedo, pathology will all be covered in the short answer and multiple choice. You will also have to design a partial denture (upper/lower). The questions are straigtforward and mostly clinical (ie. a picture or radiographs and treatment plan and how you would manage). For infection control I would suggest getting the ADA clinical guidelines and the ADA infection control guidelines.

The next 4 days are clinical.
Operative has 3 tests, each 3.5 hours long.
#1- Bridge prep and oral exam
#2- Amalgam preps (simple and complex) and restore a previosly prepared complex amalgam preparation. Remember that there are pulps in these teeth, which is important to take into consideration for the complex amalgam. They seem to prefer conventional amalgam preps (G.V Black). I would suggest you do this type of prep as opposed to conservative amalgam preps (Miles Markley) or ultra conservative preps. There will also be an oral exam
#3- Composite preps and restore plus oral exam.

Perio- Full charting on a quadrant, scale a designated area (I had to do Q3&4) and treatment plan whole mouth followed by oral exam. I would suggest getting the perio supplement from the Australian Dental Journal septemper 2009 supplement (v. 54), which is a fairly complete overview of current practices in periodontics.

Pedo- Short oral exam, maybe 25 minutes. All the questions from Cameron. Remineralization and prevention in the high caries risk patient are important. Remember that there are new fluoride guidelines in Australia from the Australian research council for oral health.

Oral Radiology and Oral Surgery: Oral rad you will have to take 2 films in ten minutes (plenty of time). Just make sure you have excellent infection control. Followed by a oral exam, which was fairly in depth. You needed to know pathology, radiographic errors, identify different types of exposures, SLOB rule, some oral path. Oral surgery you will be required to take a history on a patient, answer some questions about thier OPG and medical history and then extract one to several teeth. Followed by a oral exam. Instrument identification, pharmacology, oral diagnosis, oral path and clinical questions about how you would handle the cases shown in pictures. You will be asked about how to handle various medical emergencies in the dental office.

Endodontics- Access openings on 3 teeth, shape and obturate one canal, rubber dam and oral exam in 3 hours. Time management is important. Apical stop prep and cold lateral are expected. This is where I screwed up the most as they have switched to continuously tapering cone and warm vertical obturation here in Canada. Know the average lengths of all the teeth, the possible canal configurations and the probability of finding each configuration. Endo was my worst section.

I think that was it. The examiners are friendly, the questions are fair. Every candidate was extremely nervous (understandably). My biggest caution is not to try anything new in the exam. Don't do anything you haven't done 100 times in practice. Your first time is never that good, so don't let it be during the exam. I tried a few "firsts" in the endodontic clinic and it a) wasted a ton of time because it was unfamiliar and b) it looked terrible. I found stress management the hardest part of the test. I was so nervous I could hardly hold still during the first day of operative.

Most of the candidates in my group were currently working in the public dental system in Australia, I would say at least half of the candidates were working in the PDS. I found that the typodont teeth had differnt consistencies. The ones in crown and bridge were hard and cut like natural tooth. The class II amalgam teeth were standard dentoform teeth, medium softness. The complex amalgam tooth was very soft, many of the candidates had problems with this particular tooth. Don't overwork the tooth, plan the your retention and resistance form before you start preparation and don't nitpick too much or you will overcut the tooth. I made several mistakes in the operative clnic from overcutting because I was trying to make it just perfect. The problem is that you have so much time that you are tempted to keep improving your preps. In the real world you would finish these tasks in a 1-1.5 hours, and they give you 3.5 hours.

Be prepared to support your answers in the oral exams with references to journal articles or specific texts.

Otherwise, good luck
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congrat for passing the final exam and wishing u all the best in your career in OZ.
I think there are dental graduates from some universities in the world that can work in Oz whithout taking preliminary exam and during 2 years they must pass the clinical and since you are a graduate from Alberta,why you didn't do this???
did you take any course here in Oz to help you prepare for the exam

sorry to disturb you with my questions


Reagrds
 
It's true that if you have a Canadian degree you can work in the public system, however wages in the public system are about half of what I make here in Canada, and the taxes are higher. From a financial standpoint it was just better for me to work here in Canada and go straight into the private sector in Australia.

I didn't take any courses in Australia. The material is the same as any Western dental board exam. Something like the WREB in the US is much harder than the ADC exam.

Good Luck

Rob
 
ID : dentistmelbourn
status: planning for adc preliminary in sep 2010
location ：melbourne
country of origin ：Bangalore, india
area can help with or need help：oet, adc part-1 and clinical exam
year of degree ：2005
time in Oz ：5 months
email: pls send private message.

hi all
I am looking for buddies in melbourne and surroundings.
Regards
 
Echinopora said:
It's true that if you have a Canadian degree you can work in the public system, however wages in the public system are about half of what I make here in Canada, and the taxes are higher. From a financial standpoint it was just better for me to work here in Canada and go straight into the private sector in Australia.

I didn't take any courses in Australia. The material is the same as any Western dental board exam. Something like the WREB in the US is much harder than the ADC exam.

Good Luck

Rob
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Dear Rob
Thanks a lot for your reply and your help by writing your experience in the exam

all the best and good luck

:clap:
 
hi everybody
I am sitting on oet in April and I'll get the result in May.does anyone know when is the closing date for preliminay Sep 2010?
thanks
 
adc2010 said:
hi everybody
I am sitting on oet in April and I'll get the result in May.does anyone know when is the closing date for preliminay Sep 2010?
thanks
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June 1st
 
adc2010 said:
thanks c2.even if I pass oet,I'm not sure if its enough time for me to prepare for prelim in sep
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Well ... I don't know what are your study plans ... 3 months might just be enough ...
 
C2H5OH said:
Well ... I don't know what are your study plans ... 3 months might just be enough ...
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really u think so?I dont have any plan yet ,can u help me? where to begin?is it better to finish one book and then another or all together?
thanks...
 
Does anyone know if we can join a uni library in sydney and borrow dental books?I don't think so ,but maybe?
 
adc2010 said:
really u think so?I dont have any plan yet ,can u help me? where to begin?is it better to finish one book and then another or all together?
thanks...
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I'm currently reading the Oxford Handbook of Clinical Dentistry ... can't say I remember much of what I've read ... therefore, as soon as I'm finished I'll begin going over questions from past exams, so I'd know what fields of knowledge I'm weaker in.

Anyway ... you don't need to ace the exam ... you're expected to pass it - they say it's A, B or C (on a A to E scale) on the MCQ's (so I guess it's above 70%, right?) and 50% on the SAQ's ...
 
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