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[john samaha]

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hi!

can anyone please explain to me what ( A,B,C) grading system means,
regarding the preliminary test.
is < C > equivalent to 50 % of the mcq's, or more.

and do they delete one mcq for every wrong answer??

thank u all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

 

[somali]

# Patient has apical abscess in 46 and needs extraction. Already 4.4 ml. of 2% lignocaine with adrenaline 1: 80.000 is injected, but when you try to extract tooth it is still painful. Discuss the possible management options.

4.4ml of 2% lido might not be enough, considering the inflamation process going on. The following options might be considered:
1) Additional block using 3% Mepivocaine (it's action is synergic with lidocain)
2) Long Buccal nerve block
3) Additional infiltration, both bucally and lingually


# 65 year old female patient on oral biphosphanates. She has several grossly carious posterior teeth. how to manage?

Bisphosphonates may alter bone homeostasis sufficiently that the ability of bone to heal after minor insults is compromised. The bone may also become secondarily infected and sequestrate, leading to a lesion that appears clinically similar to osteoradionecrosis. Therefore, if there's an option to avoid surgical procedure, those posterior teeth should be managed conservatively, including endo. If there is no choice but to extract them, perform extractions and other surgery using minimal bone manipulation with appropriate local and systemic antibiotics, using mouth rinses to reduce the microbial load; follow up to assure healing.

Enjoy 🙂

i think i can add a little bit based on my personal experience
it is always beneficial to put a patient with abcess under a course of antibiotics prior to extraction
blocks in this situation becomes difficult as the the environment around the abcess is acidic which nutralize the alkaline nature of lignocaine thus LA doesnt work .well in that case a local infiltation such as intrapulpal,interdental will be beneficial apart from from the usual block.
buccal and lingual infiltrations are mostly ineffective in this cases becuse of the thick cortical plate
last but not the least prayers
cheers😉

 

[C2H5OH]

I have to disagree a bit ... the acidic environment near the abcess shouldn't effect the lidocaine potency at the site of injection during the block (which is about 7-8 centimeters away). Anyhow ... 4.4ml of anesthetics are not plenty, since statistically, in a perfect setup experienced dentists successfully perform IDN block only in 80% of the cases at the first shot. The dentist can surely add mepivacaine tithis block, and the infiltration would not numb the tooth, but the surrounding tissues.

 

[sonpari]

i think i can add a little bit based on my personal experience
it is always beneficial to put a patient with abcess under a course of antibiotics prior to extraction
blocks in this situation becomes difficult as the the environment around the abcess is acidic which nutralize the alkaline nature of lignocaine thus LA doesnt work .well in that case a local infiltation such as intrapulpal,interdental will be beneficial apart from from the usual block.
buccal and lingual infiltrations are mostly ineffective in this cases becuse of the thick cortical plate
last but not the least prayers
cheers😉

hi

was out of action 4 few days ... sorry anyways my soln to abcess case quite agees with somali :

1 my approach would be :

a i/d if any visible swelling otherwise opening on pulpal floor for exudate to escape and hence the stress will reduce this wil first give immediate relief from pain which should be the first aim of dentist, postpone the extrn and antibiotic coverage and then extrn at next visit ... pl comment 😕

cheers

 

[Drtotta]

Dear Dentists!

I am extremely proud of the amount of help and cooperation you people are giving to each other. These forums should be given prizes instead of being deleted!!
I would like to say HI first to our dear Seniors who started this excellent work a couple of years ago like DRAIYEE , DRAMOL, DRASCHWANDER …… and of course I'd like to thank all the current Juniors like DRILL, SOMALI, SONPARI, C2H5OH and others who will hopefully continue this great effort.

Guys I've been through the 1000MCQ bank and found some 50 questions I found to be a little confusing. If you have 30 minutes of your day just to double check them and which ones need to be corrected … I'd be really grateful!

The questions numbers are:-

6-26-34-48-69-80-84-103-110-114-137-187-201-215-226-230-233-254-304-334-404-405-417-418-421-425-466-482-604-643-731-743-777-792-796-830-840-843-860-892-914-923-938-967-981-1000-1016-1034-1039.

I have other past important questions that also need to be discussed, so if someone is further interested please email me [email protected] .

I know it's my first post so I won't take much of your time and space on the forum! Instead I'll wait for your reply ;-)

HAVE A GREAT DAY – KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK & BEST OF LUCK!

Dr.totta!
^_^​

 

[C2H5OH]

The problem is that the dentist has already begun the extraction procedure ... you can't just pull out in the middle of it and tell the patient to come back in a week after antibiotics course. I think we're expected to answer about the ways to anesthetize the region and successfully finish the extraction

 

[Nentist Nan]

Hi mates!
I was going through the posts and i realized that you are studying cawson
may i know which book?
the medical problem or the pharmacology?

thanks
Nan

 

[somali]

The problem is that the dentist has already begun the extraction procedure ... you can't just pull out in the middle of it and tell the patient to come back in a week after antibiotics course. I think we're expected to answer about the ways to anesthetize the region and successfully finish the extraction

in this case i feel they want to test our ability to handle a situation and i feel we can keep the antibiotic therapy as a option if the patient disagree then we can proceed after a through explanation of the situation and possible complication.
it is also said that in a abcess prior to antibiotic, extraction can actually help to spread the pus in areas of low resistance and into the circulation
however in extreme emergency we can even attemp general anaesthesia
😉

 

[somali]

thanks a lot for all the debates and discussion it is very interesting to see all you guys views👍
so please all of you more questions please
cheeeeeers

 

[C2H5OH]

in this case i feel they want to test our ability to handle a situation and i feel we can keep the antibiotic therapy as a option if the patient disagree then we can proceed after a through explanation of the situation and possible complication.
it is also said that in a abcess prior to antibiotic, extraction can actually help to spread the pus in areas of low resistance and into the circulation
however in extreme emergency we can even attemp general anaesthesia
😉

Well ... let me disagree one more time ... if the patient is not medically compromised, there's no contraindication to extraction without antibiotics. Curretage of the socket and its irrigation with saline should be just fine. On the contrary, by using antibiotics too ofted, doctors contribute to development of resistant bacteria. 🙄

And about general anaesthesia ... come on ... the person needs a simple tooth extraction ... take it easy 🙂

And no, euthanasia is not an option to consider 😀

 

[composita]

Well ... let me disagree one more time ... if the patient is not medically compromised, there's no contraindication to extraction without antibiotics. Curretage of the socket and its irrigation with saline should be just fine. On the contrary, by using antibiotics too ofted, doctors contribute to development of resistant bacteria. 🙄

And about general anaesthesia ... come on ... the person needs a simple tooth extraction ... take it easy 🙂

And no, euthanasia is not an option to consider 😀

I totally agree with you

 

[Drtotta]

Dear Dentists!

I am extremely proud of the amount of help and cooperation you people are giving to each other. These forums should be given prizes instead of being deleted!!
I would like to say HI first to our dear Seniors who started this excellent work a couple of years ago like DRAIYEE , DRAMOL, DRASCHWANDER …… and of course I'd like to thank all the current Juniors like DRILL, SOMALI, SONPARI, C2H5OH and others who will hopefully continue this great effort.

Guys I've been through the 1000MCQ bank and found some 50 questions I found to be a little confusing. If you have 30 minutes of your day just to double check them and which ones need to be corrected … I'd be really grateful!

The questions numbers are:-

6-26-34-48-69-80-84-103-110-114-137-187-201-215-221-226-230-233-254-283-304-334-404-405-417-418-421-425-464-466-482-492-604-643-731-743-777-792-796-830-840-843-860-892-914-923-938-967-981-1000-1016-1034-1039.

I have other past important questions that also need to be discussed, so if someone is further interested please email me [email protected] .

I know it's my first post so I won't take much of your time and space on the forum! Instead I'll wait for your reply ;-)

HAVE A GREAT DAY – KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK & BEST OF LUCK!

Dr.totta!
^_^​

 

[drill]

Well ... let me disagree one more time ... if the patient is not medically compromised, there's no contraindication to extraction without antibiotics. Curretage of the socket and its irrigation with saline should be just fine. On the contrary, by using antibiotics too ofted, doctors contribute to development of resistant bacteria. 🙄

And about general anaesthesia ... come on ... the person needs a simple tooth extraction ... take it easy 🙂

And no, euthanasia is not an option to consider 😀

guys i like your discussion very much . keep going . I wish I could take part in it after a short while (at this stage i think i 'd better just be an enthusiastic watcher of SAQs)👍

 

[drill]

good suggestion !!
thanks again!

Dear All😍

I really don't know to write about my prepartion for the Prelim exam
Everything was mesterious for me I did not know about this forum or I did not have about what you are talking about Cawson Dental decks or 1000bank questios
Only I had the ADC paper of prevois questuions they send it to me when they accept me to sit Prelim which contains old and out of dated mcq
All I did is to plan what to read so I took the secctions of the exam and start to concentrate on it like for exmple in pros I think what is important for me as a general dentist to know in this subject clinically

I really depended on Oxford ,Chuchil pocket book of dentistry little from clinical problem solving in dentistry and dental secret, really I benefit from my previous clinical experience and the most important think is that you should think logically in your answer and think that if this was a case came to your clinic how you are going to manage it so do not onlty keep the information by yoiur heart but also try to think

And finally I sit the exam as a try to see what is the scope of the exam andI learnd that it is mostly clinically based.
Remember I am not living in Ausralia and I do not have any contact with any one who passed the exam but I depended on myself

Wishing that all of you pass the exam

Composita🙂

 

[drill]

hi mili and dr arprit
I've just uploaded 2 referal letters samples to our common account .
Do find some others coz i don't think these are ideal . (my writing is only B😛)


hope not too late and all the best.
cheers drill

 

[sonpari]

good suggestion !!
thanks again!

hi drill and rest

thanks composita for cool n honest opinion ...........well can u tell me wats this dental secrets ...😕

cheers

 

[Odonta]

Hi Dr Totta.

I was looking through the questions you were requesting, but I think there are not correct most of them (either questions or answers) that's why we need to think and try to figure out what it can be the question or answer. From my experience there are never just two answers, mostly there are 5. Some of answers I've found in Boucher and I am in the process of correcting the answers, because a few of them need to be corrected.
Here I wrote some of answers,
6. A
26. E
34. B
48. D
69. D
80. B
84. C
103. A
110+114. B Boucher
137. B
201. A
215. the correct answer is chronic periapical abscess
226. A
233. A
254. B
304. D
334. E
404. B
405. D
417. E
418. D
421. B (unsure, could be A, source - Dental Decks, there's A vertical ot horis.
425. D
466. A
482. B
643. G
731. A Plaque can't be rinsed by water jet. Boucher p 283
743. E
792. C
830. A
843. B
892. B
923. B
938. C
967. B
981. C

Cheers!

And I want to wish GOOD LUCK to all of us having Part 1 this week!!

Odonta

PS I recommend Dental Secrets too! Nice book to read before the prelims, refreshing almost everything! You can find it on the net.

 

[drill]

I happened to know this Dental Secrets.
it's a book from Harvard dental school. It's a very good Q&A source for dental knowledge.
smart minds think the same or whatever 😀I bought it last week as well before composita recommeded here and also see what odonta says up there 😀

I reckon it's a good book 👍

hi drill and rest

thanks composita for cool n honest opinion ...........well can u tell me wats this dental secrets ...😕

cheers

 

[drill]

hope this week is a lucky week for those who will have prelims

👍👍👍👍👍

Hi Dr Totta.

I was looking through the questions you were requesting, but I think there are not correct most of them (either questions or answers) that's why we need to think and try to figure out what it can be the question or answer. From my experience there are never just two answers, mostly there are 5. Some of answers I've found in Boucher and I am in the process of correcting the answers, because a few of them need to be corrected.
Here I wrote some of answers,
6. A
26. E
34. B
48. D
69. D
80. B
84. C
103. A
110+114. B Boucher
137. B
201. A
215. the correct answer is chronic periapical abscess
226. A
233. A
254. B
304. D
334. E
404. B
405. D
417. E
418. D
421. B (unsure, could be A, source - Dental Decks, there's A vertical ot horis.
425. D
466. A
482. B
643. G
731. A Plaque can't be rinsed by water jet. Boucher p 283
743. E
792. C
830. A
843. B
892. B
923. B
938. C
967. B
981. C

Cheers!

And I want to wish GOOD LUCK to all of us having Part 1 this week!!

Odonta

PS I recommend Dental Secrets too! Nice book to read before the prelims, refreshing almost everything! You can find it on the net.

odonta do you mean there is a soft copy? thanks if you can share (though i have hard copy myself)

 

[drill]

title: MCQs in dentistry
author: R.A. cawson , C.M. scully

i think it's very old though? 😱

odonta do you have some opinion on this book? thanks
drill

cheers drill

Hi mates!
I was going through the posts and i realized that you are studying cawson
may i know which book?
the medical problem or the pharmacology?

thanks
Nan

 

[Odonta]

title: MCQs in dentistry
author: R.A. cawson , C.M. scully

i think it's very old though? 😱

odonta do you have some opinion on this book? thanks
drill

cheers drill

Thank you!!!!

Hi Drill, I had this book in my hands once I think but I haven't read it. I suppose it could be a good source for prelims... 🙂
Dental Secrets, yes soft copy.

 

[sonpari]

hi drill and rest
i dont have cawson yet so will get back to these questions later ;good drill u got dental secrets actuali i dont kno how but someone sent its soft copy to me ..... today afternoon thanks to them ill upload it in sdn mail also i dont kno how mani of u wil believe with me but trust me guys if u help andthink good of others god sends the angels to help u ; especially for those who just visit the forum and ask for material n stuff ..........guys we dont mind helping u ..but pl if u have something to help with pl come forward ........atleast guys ve the courtsy to repli ....anyways i cant help appreciating the help by drill ,drashwander,somali and other seniors....pl add ur comments as u guys are the only bankable people we guys ve so pllllllllllllll help


ALLLLL THE BEST FOR THOSE WHO TAKING PRELLIMS THIS WEEK 👍👍👍👍👍

dont FORGET CHECKING ; SDN MAIL 🙂🙂🙂🙂

cheers

 

[sonpari]

Thank you!!!!

Hi Drill, I had this book in my hands once I think but I haven't read it. I suppose it could be a good source for prelims... 🙂
Dental Secrets, yes soft copy.

hi odonta ,somali and drill and rest of u too pl check sdn mail ve uploaded soft copy of dental secrets and drill i tried getting that link of islam .net as i lost it with previous deleted posts of old adc thread and now i cant find it as it is in arabic which i dont undstand ..so sorry probably any arabic national can help any1 dere???😕

cheers

 

[sonpari]

Hello Everybody,

I was highly impressed finding this group. Thanks to all for you great effort.

I consider that it is so sad that Australia desperately needs so many dentists, and will never be able to cover that need for dentist from university places at Australian universities. The logical solution would be to allow OTD to work under supervision for up to 3 years before sitting the Final ADC exam, like the dentists from Canada, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore, South Africa and the US. If I am not wrong, that arrangement exists in the United Kingdom.😀

Anyway, thank you guys for your efforts creating this group, and I look forward to contribute with this group.

Cheers,

dr_rahul_patel



ID : indodentist1970
status : preparing for OET february 2008
location : Melbourne
country of origin : India
area can help with or need help : need help from people who have cleared OET (recall, description of the OET exam they sat, how did they study for OET, what strategies did they follow to prepare for OET, relevance of using IELTS material to prepare for OET, etc.)
year of degree : 2000
time in Oz : 1 year
email : [email protected]

hi dr rahul

trust me oet is easy as i ve told in my previous replies to somali concentrate a bit on readin as it is bit tricky refer the post #43 👍👍👍

cheers

 

[somali]

hi mili and dr arprit
I've just uploaded 2 referal letters samples to our common account .
Do find some others coz i don't think these are ideal . (my writing is only B😛)


hope not too late and all the best.
cheers drill

let me check it out

 

[somali]

hi odonta ,somali and drill and rest of u too pl check sdn mail ve uploaded soft copy of dental secrets and drill i tried getting that link of islam .net as i lost it with previous deleted posts of old adc thread and now i cant find it as it is in arabic which i dont undstand ..so sorry probably any arabic national can help any1 dere???😕

cheers

lets check it out

 

[somali]

ALL YOU GUYS WRITING PRELIMPS BEST OF LUCK
PLZ DO COME BACK AND SHARE YOUR EXPERIENCES 👍

 

[draschwander]

I mostly agree with Odontas answers (as does the 1000Q-Bank revised edition). I don´t agree with the following:

69, 334, 418, 731, 981

These should be checked again.

Cheers,
Andreas

 

[somali]

best of luck for your clinics👍
by the way did you enroll for OTC i have heard they give preferences to students who did OTC can you plz tell how imp it is to enroll for OTC
CHEERS

 

[C2H5OH]

is the 1000mcq uploaded? I mean all 1000q 🙂

 

[C2H5OH]

hi odonta ,somali and drill and rest of u too pl check sdn mail ve uploaded soft copy of dental secrets and drill i tried getting that link of islam .net as i lost it with previous deleted posts of old adc thread and now i cant find it as it is in arabic which i dont undstand ..so sorry probably any arabic national can help any1 dere???😕

cheers

islam.net?
what does it have to do with ADC exams ?

 

[neetanihal]

hi everyone,
good to get connected to this site.
i have completed my oet and preparing for the part one for march 2008.
i will welcome any help i can get and will give any help i can give.
thanks
kripa

 

[neetanihal]

hi there,
i just finished my oet,
it is easy but the trick is to prepare according to what they want.
what i mean is the letter has a particular format that they want so just practice letter writing with this in mind.
then the reading does get a little tricky so learn to scan articles and pick out key words.
and when you get the test read the questions first then the passage, the questions usually coincide with the paragraphs.

 

[neetanihal]

good suggestion !!
thanks again!

hi have you finished the adc part one sucessfully, then i really need help.
i have been out of touch since almost 3 years now oweing to the children comimg and all.
so can you guide me as to how you went about with your study plan.
i plan to appear in march 2008.
thank you
neetanihal

 

[docmakan]

Hi all,

I think this forum is a great way to help each other.

ID: MAKAN
STATUS: Dentist in Fiji
Country of Origin: Fiji
Area can help with
or need help with: Can help with oet and a little with preliminaries but need some help on preliminaries as well
Year of degree: 2004
Status: Passed Oet 2007 feb, Sittin preliminaries sept 2007

P.S. i would be grateful of someone could email me the password of SDN email account. Thanx

 

[suragh]

ID : suragh
status : Completed MPH and working in New Zealand and currently working towards registration
location : New Zealand
country of origin : India
area can help with or need help : Needed help for ADC prelims in March 2008
year of degree : 1998
time in Oz : 4 years
email : [email protected]

 

[Odonta]

Hi Andreas! Really nice to hear from you during this busy time before the exams.
Your intervention was necessary here!!
Thank you for taking time and checking the MCQ answers with us juniors!!!😳

Reg. MSQs on the test, the point there that questions are really tricky and you need to read them a few times before answering. Take your time and be cool. You have 2 hours for 80 questions, it's like 1,5 minutes for each, so it's alright!!
We who studied many months before the test, read a bounch of books, were trying to solve the msq's puzzle, now we've got a confidence, I am sure that most of us can go through it. But it's true that the test is tough, very tough.

Now to the msq's.

Q 69. B?
Q 153 I think it's E (source Dental Decks Prosthodontics p291 there it's clear that area for support can't be determined by surveying)
Q 292 B
Q 334 C
Q 418 A
Q 421 B is it periapical anyway?
Q 670 A
Q 672 C
Q 731 is it B? But in Boucher p 213 the plaque is "soft film composed manly of bacteria and cannot be rinsed off the teeth"??? see also Q 293
Q 898 and Q 999 are confusing, what is the right answer if anybody know???
Q 981 B (C is related to healthy gingiva)
Q 1028 D??

Thank you all for help!
Cheers,

Odonta

PS Drill, would you mind e-mailing me pw for access to the sdn account too? Thank you!

 

[drill]

yes 1000Q are all there
there used to be one post with attachment of dental decks .
but after I downloaded it , couldn't open it.

anyway it doesn't matter . we have decks already

islam.net?
what does it have to do with ADC exams ?

 

[drill]

welcome neetanihal
do you mind an introduction in the common format as post #1?

I am also preparing for march 2008, and my situation is not better than you

hi have you finished the adc part one sucessfully, then i really need help.
i have been out of touch since almost 3 years now oweing to the children comimg and all.
so can you guide me as to how you went about with your study plan.
i plan to appear in march 2008.
thank you
neetanihal

 

[drill]

pw sent pls check
good luck on prelim!

Hi all,

I think this forum is a great way to help each other.

ID: MAKAN
STATUS: Dentist in Fiji
Country of Origin: Fiji
Area can help with
or need help with: Can help with oet and a little with preliminaries but need some help on preliminaries as well
Year of degree: 2004
Status: Passed Oet 2007 feb, Sittin preliminaries sept 2007

P.S. i would be grateful of someone could email me the password of SDN email account. Thanx

 

[neetanihal]

id. neetanihal
status; passed oet going to sit adc1 in march08
location:sydney
country of origin:india
able to give help with oet and need help for adc 1
email[email protected]
year of passing2001

 

[drill]

updated 😛

id. neetanihal
status; passed oet going to sit adc1 in march08
location:sydney
country of origin:india
able to give help with oet and need help for adc 1
email[email protected]
year of passing2001

 

[drill]

very good
it is there!thank you sonpari~
thinking if I should return the book to the bookstore🙄

hi odonta ,somali and drill and rest of u too pl check sdn mail ve uploaded soft copy of dental secrets and drill i tried getting that link of islam .net as i lost it with previous deleted posts of old adc thread and now i cant find it as it is in arabic which i dont undstand ..so sorry probably any arabic national can help any1 dere???😕

cheers

 

[neetanihal]

hi thank u for the material.
i would like to know if any one is atending the otc and if they have any idea about loan facilty regarding this big amt, 21,000 aud

 

[sonpari]

islam.net?
what does it have to do with ADC exams ?

hi

it had dental decks so i wanted to find the link

cheers

 

[sonpari]

hi thank u for the material.
i would like to know if any one is atending the otc and if they have any idea about loan facilty regarding this big amt, 21,000 aud

hi
thats a news to me ? does any1 give loan

cheers

 

[sonpari]

very good
it is there!thank you sonpari~
thinking if I should return the book to the bookstore🙄

hi drill
u are welcum well i wish i had it before but then i got it zest onli so....and well u can return thr book ........😀😀😀

cheers

 

[hamoda123]

thank you drill for this great idea, and i think this group is what we are looking for to share informations...

ID : hamoda123
status : preparing for OET
location : Cyprus
country of origin : middle east
area can help with or need help : need help from people who have cleared OET (recall, description of the OET exam they sat, how did they study for OET, what strategies did they follow to prepare for OET..
year of degree : 2006
time in Oz : -
email : [email protected]

 

[somali]

😎
Quote:
Originally Posted by somali
best of luck for your clinics👍 just tell me one thing is it true that those who enroll for OTC definately clear the clinicals.did you enroll for OTC how important is it to enroll for OTC😕

No, many OTC participants failed, too. But the pass rate is much higher than for those not in it. I am not in OTC.

Andreas

 

[somali]

can somebody plzzzz
tel me where in chennai the oet is gonna be at 15 th🙁
these oet centre people are so irresponsible,unprofessional,irritating😡😡😡😡
they are suppose to inform the venue on 31 st aug
i have written them over 20 emails asking for the venue but are not even botherd to reply😡😡
i am going to sue them😱