Advice on Job Search- Feeling Discouraged

Discussion in 'Pharmacy' started by kmldx4, Aug 31, 2017.

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  1. kmldx4

    kmldx4 5+ Year Member

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    I'm a recently graduated pharmacist. I've applied to just about any job you can think of (Retail, PBM, Hospital, Pharmaceutical Sales) and am feeling discouraged. I had a good GPA, was on regional and national pharmacy organization committees, have great references, and still nothing. Does anyone have any advice? Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. Richard O'Mally

    Richard O'Mally

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    Inb4 stoichiometry comments.
     
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  4. quickpic007

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    lean on friends from school(hope you have some) and ask if they have prn part time scraps in their district available.
    Get a license worth some real money (CA,AK,ME)
    Apply for jobs in a rural area.
     
  5. Gombrich12

    Gombrich12 2+ Year Member

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    He doesn't tend to kick people when they're down, usually just sticks with his usual spiel to pre-pharmers.
     
  6. Amicable Angora

    Amicable Angora Lagomorpha 2+ Year Member

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    Why do you think you are unemployed and have no prospects? What makes you different from the standard grad who has at least a part time offer?
     
  7. Armyhealth

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    Thought about the Army? Board for pharmacy is in October! 120K student loan repayment.
     
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  8. kmldx4

    kmldx4 5+ Year Member

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    I think the issue is I have had primarily managed care and pharmaceutical industry experience. I haven't worked in the hospital or community (aside from rotations) since P1 year. So I think my resume may make it look like I wasn't interested in hospital or community in school. I don't know.
     
  9. Lnsean

    Lnsean 7+ Year Member

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    Not that easy either...last I heard...they're getting swamped with applicants too
     
  10. aznkukuboi

    aznkukuboi 10+ Year Member

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    Want to work in California? I'll get you a job
     
  11. Lnsean

    Lnsean 7+ Year Member

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    Where are you located state-wise? People can tell you where to apply in terms of towns or rural areas...or maybe a neighboring state. I'd start applying to contract and per diem positions at this point.
     
  12. Amicable Angora

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    I would start applying to part time jobs as well as night shift or evening jobs. You should find more success.
     
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  13. BidingMyTime

    BidingMyTime Lost Shaker Of Salt 10+ Year Member

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    I would consider switching up your references....rare, but it does happen that someone will act to your face like they are giving you the best reference, but behind your back it's something different. Considering that you are getting no interest, I'd try listing different people for references just to see if that helps.

    I read it as you aren't even getting called for interviews. If I'm wrong and you are getting called for interviews, then I would find a professional friend who would be willing to do a practice interview with you, and give you some tips on where you might improve.
     
  14. Amicable Angora

    Amicable Angora Lagomorpha 2+ Year Member

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    This is so true, sometimes you have a snake sabotaging your career.
     
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  15. Saiyo

    Saiyo 7+ Year Member

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    Tell me more about these jobs in AK and ME! Are they in the good cities or nah
     
  16. Mambo#5

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    Lol
     
  17. Abby Atwood

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    I don't know if I would suspect references. You should be getting calls from recruiters before they reach out to your references. My experience is somewhat limited, but I always interviewed with the hiring manager before anyone started reaching out to my references.

    Are you fully licensed? If you are still waiting for a license, the recruiter may be setting aside your application. I think places may hold on to applications for future positions. I wouldn't give up just because it's taking a while. I'm about 3 months out from my recent job hunt, and some of the places I applied to are just now getting back to me.
     
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  18. Jbrl

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    Seems pretty important here. Unless you have personal refs I think this will be a dealbreaker for most, as they have a ton of other applicants who do have that experience. Have you utilized your school's resources and your classmates? Personal refs are key.

    Out of curiosity - what motivated your switch, given your experience? That's probably one of the first questions I'd ask you if I saw your resume.
     
  19. kmldx4

    kmldx4 5+ Year Member

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    Yes, I am fully licensed. And I agree with your reference statement. Thanks all for your advice.
     
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  20. kmldx4

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    Honestly, there are just too few managed care and PhRMA jobs in my location. All of the managed care companies are undergoing/have undergone acquisitions and are essentially on a hiring hold. The PhRMA opportunities appear to be mainly CRO and no medical writing/medical information jobs are currently available... Of course, that wouldn't be my response to a hiring manager.
     
  21. kmldx4

    kmldx4 5+ Year Member

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    Kansas City. And I have applied for PRN and contract jobs... I guess patience is key? :(
     
  22. Lnsean

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    Yea...especially right now....all the companies are being bombarded by new grads and people applying. You might have better luck in Nov when there's alot of turnover and less new grads.
     
  23. quickpic007

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    hint: there are no good cities in AK or ME
     
  24. Mambo#5

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    Amen to that lol
     
  25. Saiyo

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    Anchorage, AK, and Portland, ME seem like pretty cool places......
    I'd probably pass on Fairbanks, Juneau, or Augusta though...
     
  26. Mambo#5

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    It's cool alright. Only place I know of where you plug your car in so it won't freeze.
     
  27. gwarm01

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    I could do Juneau for a year or two. It looks pretty and there's plenty of salmon fishing.
     
  28. Armyhealth

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    True, usually a decent amount of applicants. About 1 out of 3 get selected.
     
  29. giga

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    Have you tried the Indian Health Service? 29 different pharmacist job announcements in locations throughout the United States (with the federal government you only have to be licensed in one state and you can practice anywhere, so your license doesn't limit you geographically): USAJOBS - Search

    IHS offers loan repayment opportunities, as well as all of the other benefits of working for the federal government. It's a unique practice setting where you will get to practice at the top of your license and provide health care to some of the most underserved communities in the United States.
     
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  30. BidingMyTime

    BidingMyTime Lost Shaker Of Salt 10+ Year Member

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    I just got an e-mail about joining the army, my first thought was "how in the world did my e-mail get on some list for army recruits?" but then I looked at the e-mail and it was listing pharmacy jobs. I'm past the age cut-off, but apparently the military is looking to hire pharmacists, so that is an option to check out.
     
  31. Blizzard1mage

    Blizzard1mage 5+ Year Member

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    Patience and perseverance. Keep your head up. Be flexible. Like other posters said, explore other options (part time, etc.). And in my opinion, most importantly - network, network, network.

    Give and Connect
     
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  32. Dred Pirate

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    it is very different if you are looking for civilian vs a actual army/navy position - as far as I know there are no age cut-offs if you are a civilian
     
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  33. BidingMyTime

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    Interesting, I must have been e-mail about a non-civilian position, I clicked on it just to see what was being offered, and they said applicant must be age 42 or under.
     
  34. Amicable Angora

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    Your time has come. Join the mobile infantry.
     
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  35. Armyhealth

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    For service the age cutoff without a waiver is 42, most likely for pharmacist you would not be granted a waiver....too competitive.
     
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