AFROTC cadet to HPSP med student

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hey --

I was granted a pre-health enrollment allocation back in 2007 -- I'm hoping to enter med school in the fall, and I was wondering if anyone out there knows the specifics of the program -- like what the commitments are for summers/afterwards for ROTC cadets, benefits, etcetc.

pls PM me!

thnx
 
hey --

I was granted a pre-health enrollment allocation back in 2007 -- I'm hoping to enter med school in the fall, and I was wondering if anyone out there knows the specifics of the program -- like what the commitments are for summers/afterwards for ROTC cadets, benefits, etcetc.

pls PM me!

thnx

I think you end in the HPSP program, but don't have to go through COT like the rest of us becase you're a completed cadet. All you requirements from then on are the same as other HPSP students, with an additional service commitment. There's plenty of info on these forums, enjoy!
 
If it is anything like the Navy you are in the HPSP program like a normal person and then have more time to serve once you graduate. However I am a little confused. I read on the USUHS thread that if you don't get in this year you'll try for a PhD or something? If you are ROTC how do you plan on doing that? I just know that if I don't get in this year the Navy will be sending me to do an unrestricted line job (subs, surface warfare, pilot, nfo, etc) for at least two years before I can reapply.
 
Hi everyone,

I need some information, i am a freshmen undergraduate and will be starting my first semester 2011 fall at UNLV also i am going to enroll in the AFROTC, my major is Biochemistry im looking for information on how and what scholarships i should apply for, as i am going to be a pre-health student what steps should i take sense i am going to enroll in the afrotc.

Thank you for any advice anyone can give me.
Timothy vizza.


Also if i am posting in the wrong area please tell me so i can move this to the right place.
 
Hi everyone,

I need some information, i am a freshmen undergraduate and will be starting my first semester 2011 fall at UNLV also i am going to enroll in the AFROTC, my major is Biochemistry im looking for information on how and what scholarships i should apply for, as i am going to be a pre-health student what steps should i take sense i am going to enroll in the afrotc.

Thank you for any advice anyone can give me.
Timothy vizza.


Also if i am posting in the wrong area please tell me so i can move this to the right place.

You should not enroll in the AFROTC as a prehealth student because:

1) Premedicine is a numbers game, schools want high GPAs and high MCATs and don't care at all if the odds are stacked against you in some way that lowers your GPA. The rigid graduation requirements of ROTC (get out in 4 years, spend your summers with us, do a bunch of military stuff during the school year) will hurt your GPA.

2) The average Med school matriculant these days spends two years improving their application between college and medical school. If you go with the ROTC you need to get into medical school your senior semester or they take you as a line officer and you don't get another chance until you finish your committment.

3) If you do get in to med school you need to ask the AF's permission to go. If they need line officers more than medical officers that year you won't get that permission and now you've turned down a medical school acceptance, which will be difficult to explain when you have to reapply in 4 years.

4) If you do get in and AND get to go you now have an insane obligation to the Airforce, since your medical school scholarship obligation will stack with your ROTC obligation. You will be serving 8 years after a residency, meaning the earliest you get out of the military is 2029. No one should ever tie themselves to any organization for that long at the age of 18. Also did I mention that you need to do your residency with the AF, which might not have the training you want? Sorry if you decide you want EM, it's as tough as ortho in the military. Have fun with 11 years of military Family practice.

5) If you get in AND get to go AND like the military AND get the training you want you're still going to get screwed with your pay. The military pays huge bonuses to doctors to make up some of the gap between military and civilian pay. However you don't get most of those bonuses until you finish your initial obligation, which you won't (to review) until 2029. You'll trade what might be a milliion in bonuses for not having undergraduate loans.

So, bottom line, if you want medicine don't do ROTC. If you want to be a line officer for 4 years before you go into medicine do ROTC.
 
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2) The average Med school matriculant these days spends two years improving their application between college and medical school. If you go with the ROTC you need to get into medical school your senior semester or they take you as a line officer and you don't get another chance until you finish your committment.

Is this true? The mean age is 25 but this is a bounded curve.

Regardless, agree with the conclusion. Do ROTC if you want to be a line officer.
 
4) If you do get in and AND get to go you now have an insane obligation to the Airforce, since your medical school scholarship obligation will stack with your ROTC obligation. You will be serving 8 years after a residency, meaning the earliest you get out of the military is 2029. No one should ever tie themselves to any organization for that long at the age of 18. Also did I mention that you need to do your residency with the AF, which might not have the training you want? Sorry if you decide you want EM, it's as tough as ortho in the military. Have fun with 11 years of military Family practice.

Agree with everything but would modify the above. It's an eight year AD obligation (vs. eight years broken into 4 years AD and 4IRR [the latter of which often gets mostly chewed up if you do an AD residency]) only if you take HPSP (or longer if you go to USUHS) on top of the AFROTC. Some people take ROTC and fund med school via means outside the .mil and end up with a similar commitment to the HPSP-only commitment.
 
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See the thing is i thought i would have some extra time on my hands because the scholarships the afrotc offer for in college students pay a monthly allowence and money for books and anywhere from 9,000 to full tution for college, so i figured i won't have to get a job leaving me more time to study,

The thing is the afrotc offers alot of way's to pay for college and med-school.

Can anyone tell me anything about HPSP and anyother scholarships the air force offers for pre-med students

Thank you for any information.
 
See the thing is i thought i would have some extra time on my hands because the scholarships the afrotc offer for in college students pay a monthly allowence and money for books and anywhere from 9,000 to full tution for college, so i figured i won't have to get a job leaving me more time to study,

The thing is the afrotc offers alot of way's to pay for college and med-school.

Can anyone tell me anything about HPSP and anyother scholarships the air force offers for pre-med students

Thank you for any information.

Let's put things in perspective: UNLV's tuition is about $6,000 a year; Georgetown is about $38,500. Taking out loans and having to work in college might not seem glamorous or enjoyable, but in the long-run, it might be a good decision. Remember, what you want/value in life will be different at 18 vs 20 vs 25 vs 30 etc., so choices that seem good now might seem horrible later on
 
Let's put things in perspective: UNLV's tuition is about $6,000 a year; Georgetown is about $38,500. Taking out loans and having to work in college might not seem glamorous or enjoyable, but in the long-run, it might be a good decision. Remember, what you want/value in life will be different at 18 vs 20 vs 25 vs 30 etc., so choices that seem good now might seem horrible later on


I guess i can take that as some pretty good advice
Thank you for commenting.🙂
 
Can anyone tell me anything about HPSP and anyother scholarships the air force offers for pre-med students
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Currently HPSP pays a 20K sign on bonus, your full tuition (which for me means 60K/year), reimbursement for all your books and personal (not family) health insurance, and approximately 2k/month stipend except for the 45 days/year when you're on active duty and get full O-1 pay and benifits. Also the residency pays (w/ tax benifit) 40K/year more than the average civilian resident makes and also has full benifits for your entire family.

In exchange you need to do your residency with them, which may involve a GMO tour in between your intern year and the rest of your residency and at the completion of your residency you need to serve 4 years of active duty as a doc. The years you are on AD you will make less than your civilian peers, which lessens the value of the scholarship. It still might not be worth the loss of freedom, but I think you can see where it's more lucractive that the ROTC scholarship

It's a little more complicated than that, actually, but there will be plenty of time to weigh the pros and cons if and when you're through with premedicine. You might find out 3 days into biology class that you'd rather be a lawyer and if you do I strongly advise you not to power through premedicine against your better instincts. Right now focus on what's ahead of you: rush (and maybe pledge), try out a bunch of clubs (in both senses of the word), find some parties, and take the lightest, easies load you possibly can your first semester so that you can keep up med school caliber grades while you're adjusting to freedom. Take a lot of risks but make sure not to risk a DUI or drug related conviction. For your finances see if your school offers an Intern or Co-Op program so that you can score resume points and school credit by working on the summers and leave your semesters free, rather than having 4 years of part time employment at McDonalds. Finally, once you've adjusted and had some experiences, then start figuring out your career. Good luck.,
 
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