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Aging of Goljan?

Discussion in 'Step I' started by JustPlainBill, May 28, 2008.

  1. JustPlainBill

    JustPlainBill Attending Physician 10+ Year Member

    Jan 5, 2007
    Some of the people in my class have managed to grab a copy of the
    Goljan audios and are raving about them. Cool. Supposedly they're
    from the '03 to '04 timeframe.

    My question would be: Wouldn't the exam have changed by now?
    Especially if the NBME knew that his audios were out there? Isn't
    that why FA comes out with a new edition every year?

    Thoughts/comments - especially from those who have taken
    the exam and used Goljan to prepare?
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  3. dsprague12

    dsprague12 Senior Member 7+ Year Member

    Apr 13, 2005
    I personally haven't heard any Goljan audio, but I suspect that an MI or PE was the same in 2003/2004 as it is now. There may be a few new things that aren't covered, but I doubt path has changed much in 4 years.
  4. peter90036

    peter90036 not out fishing 7+ Year Member

    Jul 13, 2005
    next to the pond
    people like to buy "the newest freshest up to date version"
    so FA is taking advantage of that instead of properly revising their book, and releasing versions with significant changes.

    basic science doesn't change that much from year to year.

    meds, treatment, guidelines have the potential to change from year to year.
  5. tfom08

    tfom08 2+ Year Member

    May 2, 2008
    I don't the the NBME worries about changing the test to make Goljan audio less effective. If someone can memorize 40 hours of audio and a 600 page book from Goljan, they are going to ace step 1 no matter what. I doubt the use of Goljan audio has resulted in much of an increase in Step 1 scores beyond selection bias.
  6. Pontifex Maximus

    Pontifex Maximus Rads-a-palooza Physician 10+ Year Member

    Mar 18, 2003
    Pittsburgh, PA
    Well, from what I can tell, RR Path is pretty close to what he says, and it came out in 06. The pathology is solid - get your treatment info elsewhere if need be.
  7. Lany

    Lany 2+ Year Member

    May 24, 2008
    step1 and FA working together.. :laugh:.. this is as funny as the guy claiming "al qaeda and north korea working together.. this is bigger than i thought" line from harold&kumar2. Then again, who knows.

    i mean no disrespect OP, it jus clicked. Stick with goljan.
  8. 45408

    45408 aw buddy 7+ Year Member

    Jun 13, 2004
    an S3 hasn't changed much over the past 4-5 years, as far as I know, so I can't see how Goljan's material isn't still relevant. If he says "They WILL ask THIS QUESTION," they might not ask it any more, but I doubt it goes beyond that.

    SOUNDMAN Senior Member 10+ Year Member

    May 16, 2004
    He was still money for my exam and I actually thought the audio was earlier than 2003 but i might be mistaken. Point is, that his book and audio are still the real deal even in 2008.
  10. It'sElectric

    It'sElectric 10+ Year Member

    Dec 5, 2005
    If Goljan is obsolete, then UWorld must be as well. I can't even recall how many questions I've seen on there that basically follow exactly what he said at one point or another in his audio lectures.
  11. osli

    osli Senior Member 5+ Year Member

    Oct 13, 2005
    I've noticed that UWorld has some "uncanningly" similar charts and diagrams to those seen in both RR Path and CMMRS. In fact, reading through both of these has at points made me wonder if UWorld lifted questions directly from them, as the wording is almost exactly the same in some cases.
  12. Hayat

    Hayat 7+ Year Member

    Mar 23, 2008
    The basics will always remain the same. So it wouldn't harm to listen to them. I suppose they were recorded around 2001-2002.

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