Alcohol violation

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[jakey]

Definitely disclose it on your AADSAS application. Otherwise if it comes out later they view it as lying on your application which is much worse than having a alcohol violation 4 years ago. Some schools may even rescind your acceptance.

Some schools do disciplinary checks with your previous universities. Just be upfront about it, my impression is things like that really aren't anything that would keep you from getting accepted.

 

[cyrano]

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[bluemanchews]

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[aphistis]

Did you get a ticket or did you just have some *** RA write you up? Last I checked(where i went) Academic records are separate from disciplinary records and the disciplinary records can not be released without your consent. SO check your policies. If you have an actual ticket tell them, if not and you have to sign for anyone to release them, dont mention it and dont sign.. SInce a violation at your school does not constitute a US legal infraction.. you will not be lying on aadsas

To the OP: It certainly won't *help* your application, but if you conceal it and it comes out later it will be far worse. I'd disclose it and use the opportunity to detail your personal growth since then; but if you'd rather take the advice of someone who complains about "*** RA"'s, that's your prerogative. Good luck deciding.

 

[jasoto3]

I heard people get in with DUI's and everything. I mean, it doesn't look good but as long as you tell them what you learned from that experience, that it helped you mature and all that.. but don't worry it's not the end of the world.

 

[dentstd]

during my freshman year I was written up for an alcohol violation by my RA. How detrimental is this to my dental school application as well as to how the admission committee looks at your application. Will this hinder my chances of getting in ?

RA's aren't the police. What they do means jack in terms of application. Being written up means absolutely nothing. It only begins to become a problem if the academic institution enacted disciplinary actions. If the school didn't do anything, then you check "No" on your AADSAS application when they ask you about it. You won't be lying on your application, and it's fully legal. If the school put you on probation, then you have to consider checking "yes," and that depends on the wording of the application and the circumstances surrounding the situation.

 

[Essentials]

I think you have no problem here. Is there even a spot for this on AADSAS?

 

[Andre3k]

I got written up by a RA too for something like that. Don't even mention it. They don't care about what happens in a dorm. If it didn't involve the police or if you weren't disciplined by the school then don't worry about it.

 

[Vicviper]

Here's the question from the App:

"Have you ever been dismissed, expelled, found to have violated an honor code, disqualified, suspended, put on probation, or otherwise been subject to disciplinary action at any college/university in connection to misconduct?"

From what it sounded like from your explanation, you were just given a warning, and not subject to any disciplinary action, so I really think one could argue either way, it's really up to you.

 

[whoaaitzkyle]

i was an RA a couple years ago and know being written up is nothing severe. I wrote people up for doing drugs and alcohol, but the records stay within the RA's. As long as it's not repeated violations where you get kicked out of the dorms it's not a very severe write up. Write ups are for dorm violations not so much for like legal matters (unless the cops were involved). hope that helps.

 

[Contach]

Did you get a ticket or did you just have some *** RA write you up? Last I checked(where i went) Academic records are separate from disciplinary records and the disciplinary records can not be released without your consent. SO check your policies. If you have an actual ticket tell them, if not and you have to sign for anyone to release them, dont mention it and dont sign.. SInce a violation at your school does not constitute a US legal infraction.. you will not be lying on aadsas

The AADSAS application asks for violations of any Honour codes. Your school's code of conduct is an Honour code and even though it isn't a "US legal infraction" it needs to be stated in the appropriate section. This guy clearly has no idea what he is talking aboot.

I stated my Alcohol violation in my freshman year on my AADSAS. It led to a good discussion at one of my interviews. I was able to put a positive spin on it, showing my involvement in student judicial affairs because of that incident, among others. I became a "*** RA" in my Junior year.

I think this helped my application at said school.

 

[Contach]

i was an RA a couple years ago and know being written up is nothing severe. I wrote people up for doing drugs and alcohol, but the records stay within the RA's. As long as it's not repeated violations where you get kicked out of the dorms it's not a very severe write up. Write ups are for dorm violations not so much for like legal matters (unless the cops were involved). hope that helps.

This is different for every school. At some schools records aren't kept (ie. yours), but at others they are. Sometimes they are thrown away after one year, other times they are kept throughout your duration and until 7 years later.

While your school's honour code isnt a "legal matter" it does have an inherent importance. It is an administrative process to promote behavioural reform. If you rarely get in trouble you won't appreciate the system, and thoughts that are behind the process. But for some students who frequent the system, years later they will appreciate all the effort that went into trying to help them and keep them enrolled in the institution. Generally, legal matters (like the US courts) are more for the safety of others, the honor codes at a university/college are often overruled by municipal/state/federal laws when someone's safety is threatened. This is why the honour codes are gawked at by many. But, once again, it is important to those who utilise it.

 

[dentstd]

Ignore the guy above. He's Canadian. They do things differently there. Drinking isn't an honor code violation in the US of A.

 

[Andre3k]

Ignore the guy above. He's Canadian. They do things differently there. Drinking isn't an honor code violation in the US of A.

I agree. Dont put it on there. You really would be putting your foot in your mouth if thats the reason they dont accept you.

 

[DrReo]

Ignore the guy above. He's Canadian. They do things differently there. Drinking isn't an honor code violation in the US of A.

 

[tinman831]

Academic or ethical violations cannot be released without your consent. Correct. But every school asks you to sign a waiver when you get accepted, to allow the release of your records. Any academic misconduct, whether its cheating, underage drinking, or whatever, will be on that record and will have to be disclosed. Even if this occured in the dorms. It's school property, and if the RA wrote you up and filed the paperwork, the school has it on paper. Now if it was just a verbal warning, you're off the hook. Otherwise, you have some explaining to do.

 

[somethinpositiv]

Blame it on the a-a-a-a-a-alcohol

 

[dentstd]

Academic or ethical violations cannot be released without your consent. Correct. But every school asks you to sign a waiver when you get accepted, to allow the release of your records. Any academic misconduct, whether its cheating, underage drinking, or whatever, will be on that record and will have to be disclosed. Even if this occured in the dorms. It's school property, and if the RA wrote you up and filed the paperwork, the school has it on paper. Now if it was just a verbal warning, you're off the hook. Otherwise, you have some explaining to do.

Drinking isn't academic misconduct.

Requiring someone to sign a waiver makes the waiver legally questionable.

Let's go through the checklist...

Have you ever been dismissed, - no
expelled, -no
found to have violated an honor code, - drinking usually isn't an honor code violation
disqualified, - no
suspended, - no
put on probation, - no
or otherwise been subject to disciplinary action - impliedly no, because otherwise you'd know about it.

at any college/university in connection to misconduct.

...you're good to go.

 

[bluemanchews]

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[Contach]

Ignore the guy above. He's Canadian. They do things differently there. Drinking isn't an honor code violation in the US of A.

Residence Codes of Conduct, and Student Codes of Conduct are definitely honor codes.

And your enrollment in a school or residence goes hand-in-hand with agreeing to abide by such codes. I'm sure it will say that somewhere on your school registration or the fees you pay for tuition/residence. But still, most schools require you to sign such Codes of Conduct affirming taht you know what is required of you.

And actually, our Residence Life and Judicial Affairs Systems are very similar to yours in the US of A.

 

[dentstd]

Residence Codes of Conduct, and Student Codes of Conduct are definitely honor codes.

And your enrollment in a school or residence goes hand-in-hand with agreeing to abide by such codes. I'm sure it will say that somewhere on your school registration or the fees you pay for tuition/residence. But still, most schools require you to sign such Codes of Conduct affirming taht you know what is required of you.

And actually, our Residence Life and Judicial Affairs Systems are very similar to yours in the US of A.

Again, it would be prudent to ignore the Canadian. I read thru several US colleges' Honor Codes. They were all academic only.

 

[bucknut2009]

Go to your university and request your records. They have to show them to you. You will quickly be able to determine whether or not there is anything there concerning the incident you had in the dorm. I am almost certain that there will be no such record indicating the incident. It is clear that some of our fellow SDN members are quite creative but, while I cannot say explicitly that this incident is not a violation of the honor code as some people see it, the honor code that is typically referenced and referred to at an academic institution is, in reality, a system to insure academic legitimacy.

 

[prydA]

check your records and if there's anything about it, only then should you put it down

wouldn't want to incriminate yourself namsayin

 

[mestmet31]

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