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my grandmother told me yesterday that she thinks i might be part cherokee but she can't prove it yet. just wanted to know where all my almost native-american brothers and sisters are at!!
 
Bro, if you are at least 1/8th Native American or something along the lines of that, congrats.. Dental school should be a full ride. At least that what my best bud, who is full Navajo, told me. He plans on going to law school and he said its a free ride. You should go get yourself checked to determine what % Native American you are.
 
maksidaa said:
my grandmother told me yesterday that she thinks i might be part cherokee but she can't prove it yet. just wanted to know where all my almost native-american brothers and sisters are at!!

definitely check it out!! Even though you didn't know it until yesterday, being even 1/8 native american would be cool. Totally underrepresented in dentistry. If you can document your heritage, you might be looking at some awesome opportunities opening up soon.

In fact, I think native americans are so underrepresented in dentistry you will be hard pressed to fill an entire thread by numbers alone...
 
I strongly suspect this is a troll.

If, on the outside chance, you are serious - you are out of your mind. While I can appreciate the opportunism, I suspect you should at least set foot onto sovereign native soil before pusuing this much further. Try tell the locals there that you are one with them. You can even talk about the evil ones that have been keeping you down your entire life.

It appears that the entire point of under-represented peoples entering a respected profession does not resonate well with the larger SDN crowd. If you want to get into dental school, I suggest you focus on grades, work experience, volunteer experience, research, strong letter of recommendation, and boosting your DAT as much as possible.

If I remember correctly, the DAT data collection, AADSAS data collection, and the photo on the secondary are the only non-interview stages where you can point out that your people are underrepresented in dentistry. You may have to wait until the 2008 cycle to prove blood quantum, get on the tribal registry, meet your extended family, volunteer with the IHS, and update your demographics to match.
 
ralf said:
I strongly suspect this is a troll.

If, on the outside chance, you are serious - you are out of your mind. While I can appreciate the opportunism, I suspect you should at least set foot onto sovereign native soil before pusuing this much further. Try tell the locals there that you are one with them. You can even talk about the evil ones that have been keeping you down your entire life.

It appears that the entire point of under-represented peoples entering a respected profession does not resonate well with the larger SDN crowd. If you want to get into dental school, I suggest you focus on grades, work experience, volunteer experience, research, strong letter of recommendation, and boosting your DAT as much as possible.

If I remember correctly, the DAT data collection, AADSAS data collection, and the photo on the secondary are the only non-interview stages where you can point out that your people are underrepresented in dentistry. You may have to wait until the 2008 cycle to prove blood quantum, get on the tribal registry, meet your extended family, volunteer with the IHS, and update your demographics to match.

hey ralf-guy, chill a little bit, i was just wondering if anyone else might be part native american (and i suspect a lot are). i'm not looking for free ride or easy entrance into anything. if anybody is a troll it's you.
 
maksidaa said:
hey ralf-guy, chill a little bit, i was just wondering if anyone else might be part native american (and i suspect a lot are). i'm not looking for free ride or easy entrance into anything. if anybody is a troll it's you.
My grandmother is full native apache! She past away a while back and I never looked into proving it with documents. I wouldn't even know where to begin..
 
tissy said:
My grandmother is full native apache! She past away a while back and I never looked into proving it with documents. I wouldn't even know where to begin..

I don’t mean to offend anyone.. by the way I’m of mixed heritage myself. But..

Everyone in this country is soo mixed up. The US is a melting pot. What is "white"(Rob Schneider is half Filipino), what is "black" (actually Jay Z is half Filipino too)(tiger woods is more asian than he is black). You can't tell what someone is or what sort of life they've led by looking at them. Everyone is mixed up!

point is.. I think financial assistance should be based on socioeconomic reasons and where you grew up.. more so than what the color of your skin is or what racial group you may be a certain percentage of. 😕

How is a full ride to college or being able to get into med school with a D average going to help your average "black kid from upper class family from the burbs", or the "white kid who great grandmother was Indian"?

If there is going to be any form of affirmative action at all.. it should be helping those who actually grew up in rural Appalachia and the ghetto in the city (regardless of color). 👍

Peace
 
tissy said:
My grandmother is full native apache! She past away a while back and I never looked into proving it with documents. I wouldn't even know where to begin..

i'm not really sure what you have to do to prove your lineage, but you should definitely try. anybody know what you have to do?
 
You'll need to contact the governor's office of the specific nation/group/band/tribe you are attempting to re-establish lineage with. This will involve some paperwork and some verification. Blood quantum for each group differs. This is a difficult process especially since casinos have been giving out dividends to members. Lots of white people have been trying to horn in on a good thing and take things that don't belong to them. Some things will never change.
 
ralf said:
I strongly suspect this is a troll.

If, on the outside chance, you are serious - you are out of your mind...

ralf, you're the troll. less than 10 posts and are already stirring the pot. log off and go play with your legos junior; although dental school is a long time aways for you, you'll need all the help you can get on the PAT.

WS 🙂
 
If you don't already know you are NA and are affiliated with a tribe then it will be a long process to establish you are for official business.

I really don't see it happening. You have to really pursue it with much effort. They don't hand out tribal cards to everyone.

Also Schools don't automatically give out free rides to Native Americans. If a school does offer assistance it is because they are smack in the middle of indian territry like Oklahoma. No other school is. Scholarships are usually offered by their home reservation or tribal council.

The Fedaral Government does not offer money for being NA either, Whhat they do offer is the program much like the navy where they pay tuition but you have to give 4 years on a reservation. That is open to all. not jiust NAs
 
maksidaa said:
my grandmother told me yesterday that she thinks i might be part cherokee but she can't prove it yet. just wanted to know where all my almost native-american brothers and sisters are at!!

Well, your grandmother is probablay not full blood otherwise she would know. If your grandmother were full blood that would make you 1/4 assuming that she is your only tie to cherokee blood (which is likley the case since no others in your family have spoken up). I have to believe your grandmother is not even 1/2 because that surely would have been known in her immediate family. So, I suspect your gandmother is no more that 1/4 which would make you no more than 1/16 at best and out of the running. You might check out the Guion-Miller Roll which was taken in the late 1800's to help establish monetay claims against the USA for land taken from western North Carolina tribes. Seems like people are coming out of the wood piles these days hoping to claim Indian heritage because of the success of the casinos.
 
Well I was just replying to the post for "almost native americans". My grandmother is APACHE but our family never cared to prove it. All we have is memories of her and my grandpa because they both past when I was a baby.

I don't think this thread is about trying to prove who is native american for money from casinos or full ride of school..."give me a Freakin break".. I think this thread is about who else may have NA roots in their family tree. We know this is the land of immigrants so everyone is part of everything.."pretty much"..so many of us have NA and evertyhing else.
 
I am between 1/16 and 1/8 Muscogee (i think exactly 5/64... do the math 😀 ) I actually have a tribal citizenship card and could get free health care through a local tribe system in Washington state if i chose to. I didn't explore my options with undergrad but am going to talk to the individual schools with respect to dental school. I have a difficult time with whether I wish to use it as an advantage and/or if I can. I know some scholarships for undergrad required 1/8 degree blood. I believe I can get in on my own merits, but at the same time you have to play the application game. I've heard that the requirements are 1/8 and I've also heard that you just need to provide documents tracing your blood-line.

I know this was discussed on another thread and I agree with a poster that expressed that regardless the heritage needs to have had an impact on your life for you to feel comfortable talking about it in your interview (it will be brought up). I dont look native american and it is typically one of the things I use in "two truths and a lie." My grandmother grew up on a reservation and I am very self aware and knowlegable about tribal things and my family history. This all being said, I marked Caucasian on my ap as it best describes me, but will contact schools when secondaries are sent to me.
 
tissy said:
Well I was just replying to the post for "almost native americans". My grandmother is APACHE but our family never cared to prove it. All we have is memories of her and my grandpa because they both past when I was a baby.

I don't think this thread is about trying to prove who is native american for money from casinos or full ride of school..."give me a Freakin break".. I think this thread is about who else may have NA roots in their family tree. We know this is the land of immigrants so everyone is part of everything.."pretty much"..so many of us have NA and evertyhing else.

Tissy, I wasn'y replying to you. I was replying to Maksidaa. You know your Grandma was full Apache. Maksidaa's Grandma thinks Maksidaa might be part Cherokee. That is a big difference. I was only trying to extrapolate how much Cherokee Maksidaa could expect to prove to be after all the dust settles given the info that she has obtained from her Grandma. Look, if one's Grandma is full or half NA, it would not be a matter of speculation in the family..it would be a known fact. Hence, my reasoning that Maksidaa's Grandma is 1/4 Cherokee at best placing Maksidaa at 1/16 Cherokee at most.

I know a little about this. My grandpa and great uncle filed claims for reimbursement in 1911 as being part Cherokee under Guion Miller. They were denied because it was adjudicated at the time that they were not at least 1/8 Cherokee.
 
groundhog said:
Tissy, I wasn'y replying to you. I was replying to Maksidaa. You know your Grandma was full Apache. Maksidaa's Grandma thinks Maksidaa might be part Cherokee. That is a big difference. I was only trying to extrapolate how much Cherokee Maksidaa could expect to prove to be after all the dust settles given the info that she has obtained from her Grandma. Look, if one's Grandma is full or half NA, it would not be a matter of speculation in the family..it would be a known fact. Hence, my reasoning that Maksidaa's Grandma is 1/4 Cherokee at best placing Maksidaa at 1/16 Cherokee at most.

I know a little about this. My grandpa and great uncle filed claims for reimbursement in 1911 as being part Cherokee under Guion Miller. They were denied because it was adjudicated at the time that they were not at least 1/8 Cherokee.
Wow...that's some history..
 
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