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UPDATE: USC rejection 🙁 🙁😡


I'm all but empty on any hope remaining for dental schools.


Still have UCLA, Maryland, NYU, and Boston University


Anyone know why UCLA hasn't rejected me yet? Miracle in the making? 🙄

Wasn't it last year that some guy got a rejection letter from UCLA in late July... for the previous application cycle?

 

[MechZZ]

Wasn't it last year that some guy got a rejection letter from UCLA in late July... for the previous application cycle?

That's happened to me with BU.

 

[2PacClone23]

So should I assume a rejection from NYU and Boston and UCLA?

Maryland anyone? haha

 

[prsndwg]

So should I assume a rejection from NYU and Boston and UCLA?

Maryland anyone? haha

keep in touch w BU and NYU..GL

 

[2PacClone23]

keep in touch w BU and NYU..GL

I'll call them tomorrow and see what happens.

Looks like I'm going to either UCR's 1 Masters or CSU Channel Island's 1 Year.

 

[MechZZ]

That's a good plan. I would recommend you hold off applying in June of this year and wait until you finish your Masters when you apply. Good luck to you. =]

 

[2PacClone23]

That's a good plan. I would recommend you hold off applying in June of this year and wait until you finish your Masters when you apply. Good luck to you. =]

Yeah that'd be pointless. My grades are pretty much the exact same.

I WILL DESTROY THE MASTERS!

 

[lnngu]

Yeah that'd be pointless. My grades are pretty much the exact same.

I WILL DESTROY THE MASTERS!

Good. Use the time wisely: learn, mature a bit, and oh yeah..learn how to fax 😛

 

[Maygyver]

Yeah that'd be pointless. My grades are pretty much the exact same.

I WILL DESTROY THE MASTERS!

Actions speak louder than words. Remember you said you would get 30s on the chem sections? Just make sure you work hard and do your best. Until you get grades, everything is just theoretical.

 

[2PacClone23]

Actions speak louder than words. Remember you said you would get 30s on the chem sections? Just make sure you work hard and do your best. Until you get grades, everything is just theoretical.

Yes I need to learn how to fax. And yes, I remember that, but I didn't think I was going to get ****ed over with Specstroscopy! G-Chem was another story. I got gangraped by the Piano passage...otherwise my AA would have been like 21 had I gotten 22+ on RC.

Regardless, yeah you're right. I need to prove it.

 

[dental wahoo]

yes i need to learn how to fax. And yes, i remember that, but i didn't think i was going to get ****ed over with specstroscopy! G-chem was another story. I got gangraped by the piano passage...otherwise my aa would have been like 21 had i gotten 22+ on rc.

Regardless, yeah you're right. I need to prove it.

lol

 

[dl9006]

just wondering what's the point of this thread? lol

 

[dentalWorks]

just wondering what's the point of this thread? lol

lol

 

[Maygyver]

Yes I need to learn how to fax. And yes, I remember that, but I didn't think I was going to get ****ed over with Specstroscopy! G-Chem was another story. I got gangraped by the Piano passage...otherwise my AA would have been like 21 had I gotten 22+ on RC.

Regardless, yeah you're right. I need to prove it.

Yeah, if I had gotten all the questions I wanted I would have done a lot better too..

As far as the point of this thread, I think that is one of the great wonders of this forum.

 

[321931]

I didn't think I was going to get ****ed over with Specstroscopy! G-Chem was another story. I got gangraped by the Piano passage...otherwise my AA would have been like 21 had I gotten 22+ on RC.

Regardless, yeah you're right. I need to prove it.

Your terminology creeps me out. Anyways, I'm sure you'll do better the second time around. Learn from mistakes, pull yourself up, and go kick butt!

 

[2PacClone23]

Your terminology creeps me out. Anyways, I'm sure you'll do better the second time around. Learn from mistakes, pull yourself up, and go kick butt!

Well until you read the Piano passage, you'll never truly know why I used that terminology.

Would you guys suggest doing the 1 year Masters at UCR or CSU Channel Islands?

 

[476515678234896]

Well until you read the Piano passage, you'll never truly know why I used that terminology.

Would you guys suggest doing the 1 year Masters at UCR or CSU Channel Islands?

I'd do UCR because I've heard CSU Channel Islands (and some other CSUs) compared to community colleges.

 

[promolion]

UCR!!!!! Whose side? RSide!!! go there

 

[2PacClone23]

I'd do UCR because I've heard CSU Channel Islands (and some other CSUs) compared to community colleges.

Oh that's totally not fair. CSU's are NOT comparable to community colleges. And are you saying the CSUCI is "easier" as a result???

 

[peerless218]

UPDATE: USC rejection 🙁 🙁😡


I'm all but empty on any hope remaining for dental schools.


Still have UCLA, Maryland, NYU, and Boston University


Anyone know why UCLA hasn't rejected me yet? Miracle in the making? 🙄

The 1st time I applied, UCLA didn't even send me a rejection letter. Theire admission process works REALLY REALLY slow

 

[2PacClone23]

The 1st time I applied, UCLA didn't even send me a rejection letter. Theire admission process works REALLY REALLY slow

What bastards.


I also used Excel to figure out if I take 3 science class for a post-bacc, and get A's in all of them (HIGHLY unlikely), then



My Overall GPA would go to 3.37, BCP GPA 3.25 and Science GPA 3.29


That's a nice bump but I dunno.....If I were to do this, it def wouldn't be at UCSD. I'd go to like Cal State San Marcos or something.

 

[molar3]

why is that highly unlikley!?
thats the point of a postbacc is to bust your butt & get straight A's!!! to boost your gpa! thats also the point of the masters!!
2pacclone, u can totally do it.
also.....wait how can a 2.7 ish science get to a 3.29 science with just THREE courses?! isnt that like max 12 credits? are you sure you calculated right!!
unless you hardly have any sciences courses to begin with that youre calculating into.

 

[2PacClone23]

why is that highly unlikley!?
thats the point of a postbacc is to bust your butt & get straight A's!!! to boost your gpa! thats also the point of the masters!!
2pacclone, u can totally do it.
also.....wait how can a 2.7 ish science get to a 3.29 science with just THREE courses?! isnt that like max 12 credits? are you sure you calculated right!!
unless you hardly have any sciences courses to begin with that youre calculating into.

I can do Master's because I know I'll have a clean slate. It's a mental thing. And I won't be in this environment.

As for the three classes, that's three classes per quarter! So that's 9 classes a year 36 units a year.


Getting those A's at UCSD will be impossible. Going to Cal State San Marcos seems more likely.

 

[Maygyver]

I can do Master's because I know I'll have a clean slate. It's a mental thing. And I won't be in this environment.

As for the three classes, that's three classes per quarter! So that's 9 classes a year 36 units a year.


Getting those A's at UCSD will be impossible. Going to Cal State San Marcos seems more likely.

That's not a very good outlook. I'm sure dental schools would look a lot more positively on A's from a tougher school than a school that you are going to just because it's easy, especially given your past record. You sort of dug yourself a ditch and now you need to show schools you are able to be successful at classes which are close to a dental school level.

 

[amali]

I can do Master's because I know I'll have a clean slate. It's a mental thing. And I won't be in this environment.

As for the three classes, that's three classes per quarter! So that's 9 classes a year 36 units a year.


Getting those A's at UCSD will be impossible. Going to Cal State San Marcos seems more likely.

Make sure you remember those 36 units a year are quarter, not semester. If you are going by aadsas calculations and adding 36 units onto whatever they've calculated for you, remember they took all your quarter units from UCSD and turned them into sem first.

After my post-bac, my science gpa only went up like .2, but maybe you didn't take very many classes?

 

[dentalWorks]

I can do Master's because I know I'll have a clean slate. It's a mental thing. And I won't be in this environment.

As for the three classes, that's three classes per quarter! So that's 9 classes a year 36 units a year.


Getting those A's at UCSD will be impossible. Going to Cal State San Marcos seems more likely.

I don't know you... but it seems to me your mentality isn't in the right place. From a "mentality" prospective, it doesn't matter if you do masters or post-bacc, and it certainly shouldn't matter if you have a clean slate or a dirty rag.... your real mentality should be "Okay I have a 2nd chance to redeem myself, Im gonna kick ass and 4.0 everything...no exceptions"

If you look around SDN, there are alot of folks who had similar numbers to yours, and were able to pull straight 4.0s in their post-baccs / masters for 1-3+ years. Its not because they went to an easy program or they are geniuses, its because they worked their asses off. Period

 

[2PacClone23]

I don't know you... but it seems to me your mentality isn't in the right place. From a "mentality" prospective, it doesn't matter if you do masters or post-bacc, and it certainly shouldn't matter if you have a clean slate or a dirty rag.... your real mentality should be "Okay I have a 2nd chance to redeem myself, Im gonna kick ass and 4.0 everything...no exceptions"

If you look around SDN, there are alot of folks who had similar numbers to yours, and were able to pull straight 4.0s in their post-baccs / masters for 1-3+ years. Its not because they went to an easy program or they are geniuses, its because they worked their asses off. Period

I agree...but from my perspective and standpoint, I have 100% greater incentive to absolutely DESTROY for 1 year (hell even 3 quarters), mentally, physically, facebookly, then the potential incentive to take 3 classes a quarter for 3 quarter @ UCSD or another 4 year institution, destroy it, and only see my GPA rise by .3

That's the difference.

 

[Maygyver]

I agree...but from my perspective and standpoint, I have 100% greater incentive to absolutely DESTROY for 1 year (hell even 3 quarters), mentally, physically, facebookly, then the potential incentive to take 3 classes a quarter for 3 quarter @ UCSD or another 4 year institution, destroy it, and only see my GPA rise by .3

That's the difference.

Why though? Don't you want to prove to yourself that you can do well in difficult science courses?

 

[2PacClone23]

Why though? Don't you want to prove to yourself that you can do well in difficult science courses?

I can. Trust me, if I could start my undergrad over, my GPA wouldn't be where it is now. I'd be the total anti-social type in my room.

 

[Maygyver]

I can. Trust me, if I could start my undergrad over, my GPA wouldn't be where it is now. I'd be the total anti-social type in my room.

You can say that all you want, but you have no proof of it. Your application would look a lot stronger if you backed up what you are saying about being a changed person and one of the ways of doing that is to not take the easy route.

 

[UltimateHombre]

As far as the point of this thread, I think that is one of the great wonders of this forum.

👍

I think a church leader of mine said it best:

"One of the greatest tragedies we witness almost daily is the tragedy of men of high aim and low achievement. Their motives are noble. Their proclaimed ambition is praiseworthy. Their capacity is great. But their discipline is weak. They succumb to indolence. Appetite robs them of will."

 

[2PacClone23]

👍

I think a church leader of mine said it best:

"One of the greatest tragedies we witness almost daily is the tragedy of men of high aim and low achievement. Their motives are noble. Their proclaimed ambition is praiseworthy. Their capacity is great. But their discipline is weak. They succumb to indolence. Appetite robs them of will."

I wish I had gone to ASU like you my friend 🙂

 

[Maygyver]

I wish I had gone to ASU like you my friend 🙂

Is UCSD really that different?

 

[UltimateHombre]

I wish I had gone to ASU like you my friend 🙂

I honestly wish you would just take responsibility for your own actions... seriously, the amount of excuses you spit out is just pitiful. Have some self-respect, own up to your weaknesses and change for the better.

Blame UCSD, NMR, and the piano passage all you want, but ultimately you didn't put the time in studying to get the GPA/DAT, that you need.

Even if you did come to ASU, would it have made a difference? Would your study skills and discipline have magically increased to a competitive level? Having the largest student body in the nation, with 70K+ students, its still competitive here. I still had to study my a** off in bio, ochem, and physics to beat out the other 400-500 students in my class for that A.

You will probably get defensive to my remarks, because the truth is hard to swallow. But as soon as you man-up and stop making excuses, you will empower yourself and develop the virtues/disciplines you need to make it to d-school.

If you do not develop this self accountability and drive, you can expect to live a life of unhappiness, regret, and mediocrity.

So man-up, kick you MS program in the balls, retake the DAT, and get in to d-school! Best of luck!!

 

[lnngu]

I honestly wish you would just take responsibility for your own actions... seriously, the amount of excuses you spit out is just pitiful. Have some self-respect, own up to your weaknesses and change for the better.

Blame UCSD, NMR, and the piano passage all you want, but ultimately you didn't put the time in studying to get the GPA/DAT, that you need.

Even if you did come to ASU, would it have made a difference? Would your study skills and discipline have magically increased to a competitive level? Having the largest student body in the nation, with 70K+ students, its still competitive here. I still had to study my a** off in bio, ochem, and physics to beat out the other 400-500 students in my class for that A.

You will probably get defensive to my remarks, because the truth is hard to swallow. But as soon as you man-up and stop making excuses, you will empower yourself and develop the virtues/disciplines you need to make it to d-school.

If you do not develop this self accountability and drive, you can expect to live a life of unhappiness, regret, and mediocrity.

So man-up, kick you MS program in the balls, retake the DAT, and get in to d-school! Best of luck!!

👍

 

[2PacClone23]

I honestly wish you would just take responsibility for your own actions... seriously, the amount of excuses you spit out is just pitiful. Have some self-respect, own up to your weaknesses and change for the better.

Blame UCSD, NMR, and the piano passage all you want, but ultimately you didn't put the time in studying to get the GPA/DAT, that you need.

Even if you did come to ASU, would it have made a difference? Would your study skills and discipline have magically increased to a competitive level? Having the largest student body in the nation, with 70K+ students, its still competitive here. I still had to study my a** off in bio, ochem, and physics to beat out the other 400-500 students in my class for that A.

You will probably get defensive to my remarks, because the truth is hard to swallow. But as soon as you man-up and stop making excuses, you will empower yourself and develop the virtues/disciplines you need to make it to d-school.

If you do not develop this self accountability and drive, you can expect to live a life of unhappiness, regret, and mediocrity.

So man-up, kick you MS program in the balls, retake the DAT, and get in to d-school! Best of luck!!

First of all, UCSD is harder (that's not a token of compliment. That's something that SUCKS), trust me. Had I done everything over, I would have probably gone to some CSU, and kicked its ass. No joke. But my ASU comment was actually in reference to the crazy hot girls who go there (ASU is famous for this).


As for next year, I shall NOT retake the DAT. Why should I? I got a 19/19/20. And when would I possibly take it anyway? September? December? April? That's pretty much during my Master's program that I shall be kicking its ass!

 

[DonutEater]

First of all, UCSD is harder (that's not a token of compliment. That's something that SUCKS), trust me. Had I done everything over, I would have probably gone to some CSU, and kicked its ass. No joke. But my ASU comment was actually in reference to the crazy hot girls who go there (ASU is famous for this).


As for next year, I shall NOT retake the DAT. Why should I? I got a 19/19/20. And when would I possibly take it anyway? September? December? April? That's pretty much during my Master's program that I shall be kicking its ass!

What is with the bashing on ASU? You do not have the qualifications to bash other schools with your below average gpa and mediocre DAT. There are many ASU graduates who have gotten way higher DAT scores, which if you are not informed already is standarized, than you. Why are you so proud of your UCSD degree when that is possibly the last highest degree you will get when many ASU graduates will obtain a DDS/DMD degree that you will never get. Like many have told you, man up to your words and go study instead of posting your meaningless posts about your master plan. You still sound very immature and I will not be surprised if you post about how you will study you ass off for your next degree after failing miserably in your Master's program after a year. Good luck cause you need it badly.

P.S. You NEED to retake your DAT. If that is not obvious to you when almost everyone thinks you need to, you have a problem.

/thread (see you in a year)

 

[two thirty]

First of all, UCSD is harder (that's not a token of compliment. That's something that SUCKS), trust me. Had I done everything over, I would have probably gone to some CSU, and kicked its ass. No joke. But my ASU comment was actually in reference to the crazy hot girls who go there (ASU is famous for this).


As for next year, I shall NOT retake the DAT. Why should I? I got a 19/19/20. And when would I possibly take it anyway? September? December? April? That's pretty much during my Master's program that I shall be kicking its ass!

As someone who comes from a large public state school too, you are fooling yourself if you think you would have just had an easy path to a good GPA at such a school. Whatever makes you feel better though...

 

[dentalWorks]

First of all, UCSD is harder (that's not a token of compliment. That's something that SUCKS), trust me. Had I done everything over, I would have probably gone to some CSU, and kicked its ass. No joke. But my ASU comment was actually in reference to the crazy hot girls who go there (ASU is famous for this).


As for next year, I shall NOT retake the DAT. Why should I? I got a 19/19/20. And when would I possibly take it anyway? September? December? April? That's pretty much during my Master's program that I shall be kicking its ass!

how do you know a specific school is "harder" than another? Have you attended both schools to make such judgment? (Keyword = judgment ~ aka personal opinion)

Besides, EVEN if UCSD has a more challenging curriculum, its not like their pre-dent and pre-meds can't squeeze out respectable GPAs. Im sure there were students in your school who made into professional schools with good GPAs. So how come you didn't?

If your going to tell me they were a bunch of nerds who never had any social life, I might agree with you, but I believe thats always the case with the serious pre-heath student. In order to make into a professional school, you need to have the stats to back it up IRRESPECTIVE of what school or major you went into.

There is another thing to consider... if you think UCSD was hard... how will you perform in dental school? Im pretty sure no undergrad in the world comes near the difficulty of dental school... how will you handle dental school? You don't wanna be one of the few who get in, realize how hard it was, and blow 20-40k on first year tuition to drop out because it was "too difficult"..... You might wanna consider dental education as a whole before you go into it

 

[RedDevilDDS]

So I guess there is no 4.0's at UCSD?

Grow Up my friend 😀

 

[2PacClone23]

What is with the bashing on ASU? You do not have the qualifications to bash other schools with your below average gpa and mediocre DAT. There are many ASU graduates who have gotten way higher DAT scores, which if you are not informed already is standarized, than you. Why are you so proud of your UCSD degree when that is possibly the last highest degree you will get when many ASU graduates will obtain a DDS/DMD degree that you will never get. Like many have told you, man up to your words and go study instead of posting your meaningless posts about your master plan. You still sound very immature and I will not be surprised if you post about how you will study you ass off for your next degree after failing miserably in your Master's program after a year. Good luck cause you need it badly.

P.S. You NEED to retake your DAT. If that is not obvious to you when almost everyone thinks you need to, you have a problem.

/thread (see you in a year)

I never said UCSD was better, or whatnot, I said it was harder. It's more competitive. Just like how UCB and UCLA are harder schools than UCSD, and I'm sure we'd all get destroyed in Harvard Pre-Med. That's the point. I'm not making excuses.


You seem to feel a little envious of me, I think that I'm so laid back and cool while you're there telling me how much my life sucks and how my Master's GPA will be this or that or that my DAT sucks. Excuse me? The average MATRICULATING dental student has a 19AA so I don't see where or why my DAT sucks. Shame on you for putting me down in a public forum. All I was saying is that ASU has hot chicks.

 

[dentalWorks]

I never said UCSD was better, or whatnot, I said it was harder. It's more competitive. Just like how UCB and UCLA are harder schools than UCSD, and I'm sure we'd all get destroyed in Harvard Pre-Med. That's the point. I'm not making excuses.


You seem to feel a little envious of me, I think that I'm so laid back and cool while you're there telling me how much my life sucks and how my Master's GPA will be this or that or that my DAT sucks. Excuse me? The average MATRICULATING dental student has a 19AA so I don't see where or why my DAT sucks. Shame on you for putting me down in a public forum. All I was saying is that ASU has hot chicks.

I can understand why you'd be upset but.....I don't believe that was DonutEater's intention... I think it was more of a rough pep-talk as an attempt to light a fire under you...

I don't think you get it. We ALL WANT YOU TO DO BETTER, but me personally (and I don't know if everyone else feels this way), I just see you as someone whos very laid back about this. A 2.7 UG sGPA usually gets people very worried and always looking pessimistic "Omg even if I 4.0 my masters and post-bacc I'll still never make it yaka yaka yaka"..... These are good healthy signs, it means this person gives a s*** and is willing to do whatever.

We just don't see that in you.... to us we see "oh... I"ll just go a head and do the easiest masters (if there is one) and once I ace it, dental schools will be kissing my bottom".

By the way, 19AA isn't bad at all. And you are right, it is the average matriculating AA, but don't forget..... average matriculating GPA is also in the 3.4s range :/

 

[dl9006]

I never said UCSD was better, or whatnot, I said it was harder. It's more competitive. Just like how UCB and UCLA are harder schools than UCSD, and I'm sure we'd all get destroyed in Harvard Pre-Med. That's the point. I'm not making excuses.


You seem to feel a little envious of me, I think that I'm so laid back and cool while you're there telling me how much my life sucks and how my Master's GPA will be this or that or that my DAT sucks. Excuse me? The average MATRICULATING dental student has a 19AA so I don't see where or why my DAT sucks. Shame on you for putting me down in a public forum. All I was saying is that ASU has hot chicks.

how about admitting you're not that special and work hard like everyone else.
change your attitude, stop making up excuses and stop blaming everyone else.

if you have time to waste, go hit your DAT books

 

[lnngu]

I never said UCSD was better, or whatnot, I said it was harder. It's more competitive. Just like how UCB and UCLA are harder schools than UCSD, and I'm sure we'd all get destroyed in Harvard Pre-Med. That's the point. I'm not making excuses.


You seem to feel a little envious of me, I think that I'm so laid back and cool while you're there telling me how much my life sucks and how my Master's GPA will be this or that or that my DAT sucks. Excuse me? The average MATRICULATING dental student has a 19AA so I don't see where or why my DAT sucks. Shame on you for putting me down in a public forum. All I was saying is that ASU has hot chicks.

It's painfully obvious to everyone but you that you have a lot of growing up to do. I can assure you that no one here is envious of you.

Here's a tip about school: you get out what you put in. The reason that you've been struggling is probably because you've been focusing more on being "laid back and cool" than putting in the work. The way you're going about your business, you'd struggle with Sunday school, let alone the state schools.

Btw, whether you want to or not, you're going to have to improve that DAT score if you want to have a chance. Given the rest of your docket, you need more than an average score.

 

[UltimateHombre]

I don't think you get it. We ALL WANT YOU TO DO BETTER, but me personally (and I don't know if everyone else feels this way), I just see you as someone whos very laid back about this. A 2.7 UG sGPA usually gets people very worried and always looking pessimistic "Omg even if I 4.0 my masters and post-bacc I'll still never make it yaka yaka yaka"..... These are good healthy signs, it means this person gives a s*** and is willing to do whatever.

We just don't see that in you.... to us we see "oh... I"ll just go a head and do the easiest masters (if there is one) and once I ace it, dental schools will be kissing my bottom".

By the way, 19AA isn't bad at all. And you are right, it is the average matriculating AA, but don't forget..... average matriculating GPA is also in the 3.4s range :/

👍 Agree 100% with everything DW said

And you should seriously retake the DAT... A 19 is great, but only if your GPA is in the 3.5 range. Since your GPA is lacking you need to shoot for 21+.

Think about it... after you invest a year of sweat and blood into a MS pulling a 4.0, the last thing you want is to be rejected, because your DAT score needs to be higher.

Even if you pull your GPA up to 3.1... not sure if the MS will be enough to save you. Play it smart and cover your bases, retake the DAT.

I will agree with you on one point, ASU girls are hot!

 

[2PacClone23]

👍 Agree 100% with everything DW said

And you should seriously retake the DAT... A 19 is great, but only if your GPA is in the 3.5 range. Since your GPA is lacking you need to shoot for 21+.

Think about it... after you invest a year of sweat and blood into a MS pulling a 4.0, the last thing you want is to be rejected, because your DAT score needs to be higher.

Even if you pull your GPA up to 3.1... not sure if the MS will be enough to save you. Play it smart and cover your bases, retake the DAT.

I will agree with you on one point, ASU girls are hot!

That makes sense. Obviously it's my BCP GPA that help me back. I know this. However, because of the environment I'm in, because of the costs, I refuse to take any BCP classes at UCSD. Don't ask me why, but I'm telling you, I can't. Like the millions of others, I will go to another reputable and good University. Now.....this is about my Master's GPA and my Master's route. Let's assume that I get like a 3.7 Master's GPA at either CSUCI or UCR, and I retake the DAT in like September of this year (not months before or after the application in June 2012 because I'd be busting my *** for the Master's) and I do in fact get a 21+ across the board. Then how would you guys assess my chances?

 

[MechZZ]

21+ and 3.7 in a M.S. I'd say you have a great shot. Just don't waste your money on some of those apps again. Research which schools you have the best chance of getting into.

The ball is in your court. No excuses from here on out, just stfu and do the work.

 

[dentalWorks]

That makes sense. Obviously it's my BCP GPA that help me back. I know this. However, because of the environment I'm in, because of the costs, I refuse to take any BCP classes at UCSD. Don't ask me why, but I'm telling you, I can't. Like the millions of others, I will go to another reputable and good University. Now.....this is about my Master's GPA and my Master's route. Let's assume that I get like a 3.7 Master's GPA at either CSUCI or UCR, and I retake the DAT in like September of this year (not months before or after the application in June 2012 because I'd be busting my *** for the Master's) and I do in fact get a 21+ across the board. Then how would you guys assess my chances?

A LOT better than today, won't you agree?

 

[2PacClone23]

A LOT better than today, won't you agree?

Well I'm trying to keep it real. I can't wait to hear you guys' reactions once I get in 🙂

 

[Maygyver]

Think of it from a perspective of an adcom. Would you take someone that had to take multiple DAT's and extra courses over someone that had the same stats without redoing things? Probably not, so you are going to want to shoot for above average. That's why people are telling you to redo your DAT. Stop asking us what your chances are. Sure they would be better if you actually had those stats, but we have no proof and no reason to believe it will happen currently. Just go do some work and come back in a year with your stats and then you can see what your chances are. Until then, nobody can really give you advice to the same questions you keep asking.