Any 30-32 MCAT with interviews????

[Ppierce baller]

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I couldn't find a thread like this, only for 27-29. I think there should be a thread for this too, right?

Anyways, please help instill some hope in an utterly depressed 32P, 3.94 applicant.

Thank you to all who contribute.

 

[aspiring20]

I couldn't find a thread like this, only for 27-29. I think there should be a thread for this too, right?

Anyways, please help instill some hope in an utterly depressed 32P, 3.94 applicant.

Thank you to all who contribute.

i just read the other thread you started, and i can understand your frustration at this moment. as important as numbers are, your ECs are also extremely important. if you are willing to share your ECs, then maybe the more experienced SDNers (not me) can offer you better insights on why you haven't received any interviews. you also said in the other thread that you only applied to "top 50" schools? maybe that's a factor as well.

but dont lose hope since the cycle is far from over. many people get their acceptances in march, april, may, and some get off the waitlist during summer weeks before the start of classes. there's still plenty of time left!

 

[Ismet]

Something else is wrong with your app if you don't have ANY interviews with a 3.9/32. Maybe you didn't apply broadly enough, maybe you had a bad LOR, maybe something in your essays raised a red flag...really the possibilities are endless, but your MCAT score is not what held you back here.

EDIT: I just realized you are the OP from the "must cure cancer to get into a Top 50 with a 30-32" thread. If you don't want to post specifics on SDN, meet with a pre-med advisor or something to see where your app went wrong.

 

[Ppierce baller]

Where could I share it? Is there a seperate section on here to do so? I kind of want this thread to stay like the 27-29 one where people just list interviews and such forth to give hope to struggling people like me in future years (like the other thread does).

 

[aspiring20]

Something else is wrong with your app if you don't have ANY interviews with a 3.9/32. Maybe you didn't apply broadly enough, maybe you had a bad LOR, maybe something in your essays raised a red flag...really the possibilities are endless, but your MCAT score is not what held you back here.

agreed.

OP, if you want some truly helpful insight, you'll have to tell us (or PM SDN members) the specifics of your app. cGPA and MCAT alone cannot paint an accurate picture of your application.

 

[Ismet]

make one of these: http://mdapplicants.com/

you can also look through profiles and see who got interviews with what MCAT/GPA.

you'll find that plenty of people who applied smartly got many interviews with a 30-32. i got 10 II's last year with a 32 (you can click on my MDApps link under my avatar). it's not all about stats. your stats are great, and you should have gotten II's just looking at your stats alone, suggesting that something else in your app is a huge red flag.

 

[Ppierce baller]

I'll post in the "what are my chances forum" when I get a chance then. I don't think I am going to create an mdapplicant profile just yet. Thank you.

 

[mzarrowsmith]

What is your state school? Did you apply there? Those numbers with a mediocre app should have gotten you an interview at most state schools.

Are you confident you are good at self-reflecting and evaluating how your written responses come off to readers who don't know you? I ask this because in my opinion your other thread painted you as extremely entitled and a sore loser. Maybe this is not what you were going for, but it seemed that way to me. Having trusted reviewers read your stuff is the only way to avoid this.

 

[Ismet]

(From another thread)

I hope there is, but I'm already planning for next year at this point. I'm going to take the DAT and PCAT soon and apply to lower tier schools next year.

The fact that you're considering dental and pharmacy school after one bad cycle shows a lack of commitment to medicine. Or that you're a troll.

 

[mzarrowsmith]

(From another thread)


The fact that you're considering dental and pharmacy school after one bad cycle shows a lack of commitment to medicine. Or that you're a troll.

Yes. How much time did you spend investigating the medical career?

 

[Ppierce baller]

(From another thread)


The fact that you're considering dental and pharmacy school after one bad cycle shows a lack of commitment to medicine. Or that you're a troll.

Excuse me? I'm a troll? I'm sorry nobody in medicine wants me. What do you want me to do, keep applying for medical school and keep getting put down. I want to do something with my life, don't you? Congrats on being accepted to your dream school right away. Sadly, it just doesn't work that way for a lot of people. I want to move on with my life and stop being a loser who still depends on their parents because they don't make enough money currently to support themselves. I'm glad you can be so judgemental of me, you are entering the perfect profession to be judgemental of others.

 

[Ppierce baller]

Yes. How much time did you spend investigating the medical career?

I've wanted to be a doctor my whole life. Obviously, I'm just not fit enough (or smart enough) judging by the fact that it is now January and I have nothing to show for. Sometimes in life, things just don't work out and you pick up and move on.

Also, please note how I also said that I will be applying to lower tier schools next year too. It's not like I have given up on medicine. I just want to make sure I'm back in school in two years. Again I want to do something with my life.

 

[mzarrowsmith]

Excuse me? I'm a troll? I'm sorry nobody in medicine wants me. What do you want me to do, keep applying for medical school and keep getting put down. I want to do something with my life, don't you? Congrats on being accepted to your dream school right away. Sadly, it just doesn't work that way for a lot of people. I want to move on with my life and stop being a loser who still depends on their parents because they don't make enough money currently to support themselves. I'm glad you can be so judgemental of me, you are entering the perfect profession to be judgemental of others.

Aren't you like 20 years old? There's still time to do something with your life, grasshopper.

Pro Tip: You need to read "Mindset" by Carol Dweck. It will show you why your approach to (perceived) failure is counterproductive.

 

[mzarrowsmith]

I've wanted to be a doctor my whole life. Obviously, I'm just not fit enough (or smart enough) judging by the fact that it is now January and I have nothing to show for. Sometimes in life, things just don't work out and you pick up and move on.

Also, please note how I also said that I will be applying to lower tier schools next year too. It's not like I have given up on medicine. I just want to make sure I'm back in school in two years. Again I want to do something with my life.

Red flag numero uno. If you have zero documented shadowing and/or clinical experience during which you have tested your childhood desire to be a doctor, your chances of admission to a US medical school are nearly zero. It doesn't matter if you have a 3.99 and a 45 MCAT.

People who have not invested the time to fully explore a very challenging career path are much more likely to quit under the rigors of medical school and residency.

 

[Ismet]

Excuse me? I'm a troll? I'm sorry nobody in medicine wants me. What do you want me to do, keep applying for medical school and keep getting put down. I want to do something with my life, don't you? Congrats on being accepted to your dream school right away. Sadly, it just doesn't work that way for a lot of people. I want to move on with my life and stop being a loser who still depends on their parents because they don't make enough money currently to support themselves. I'm glad you can be so judgemental of me, you are entering the perfect profession to be judgemental of others.

You need to calm down and majorly adjust your attitude. There are plenty of people on SDN alone who have unsuccessful cycles, but if they truly want to be a physician, they figure out what needs to be fixed, they fix it, and they try again. There are people who take 3 or even 4 cycles to get ONE admission. They don't come on here acting entitled and bashing the system. You need to figure out what your mistakes were, own up to them, fix them, and get back up and try again. If your essays were anything like how you've presented yourself on the forums, that could be a reason for the lack of II's. I'm not being judgmental in the slightest. You came here for help, I'm helping you. It's just not what you want to hear. I already told you that your stats are perfectly fine.

 

[music2doc]

I couldn't find a thread like this, only for 27-29. I think there should be a thread for this too, right?

Anyways, please help instill some hope in an utterly depressed 32P, 3.94 applicant.

Thank you to all who contribute.

It's not your stats, sorry. Even if you were applying to top 20 schools, you can get interviews with those stats. (Of course, school selection does play into this quite a bit.)

 

[SilverCat]

Several questions here.

1.) When did you apply? Did you submit your AMCAS in June, or did wait until August? Later app= worse chances

2.) Where did you apply to? Only top 50- you've lowered your chances significantly. Did you pick schools with a high in-state preference? Did you apply to your state school? Did you pick the right schools for you- for example, did you apply to schools with a heavy emphasis on research (90% applicants have research experience) and you lack significant research? The MSAR provides details on the percent of applicants applying to each school with clinical, non-clinical, and research experiences.

3.) What do your ECs look like? Do you have clinical experiences? Non- clinical volunteer work? Research? A hobby? I think most applicants need a combo of at least some of these to be successful.

4.) What did your PS look like? Did you have other people read it over to give you feedback on it?

5.) What were your LORs like? Were they from people you know well, or just some professors you spoke with once or twice?

6.) What were your secondaries essays like? Did you answer questions on why you want to attend the schools thoroughly? Proofread each answer?

These are a few points you might want to look into. As a reapplicant, I can fully sympathize with what you're going through right now, and I can assure you, your lack of interviews is not due your lack of 'smarts' or 'fitness.' There's something the matter with your app, and most likely, something that can be remedied.

Be careful with looking into other programs, like dentistry and pharmacy. If you are truly interested in them, go for it, but if you want a back-up in case your med school app falls through, you're going to be in trouble. Just applying to med school is exhausting physically, emotionally and financially, and attempting to study for the DAT, PCAT, and fill in those applications while simultaneously applying to med school will lead to sub-par, slapdash applications all around. You will waste large amounts of energy and money doing this, when you could be improving your med school app only.





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[MedPR]

I couldn't find a thread like this, only for 27-29. I think there should be a thread for this too, right?

Anyways, please help instill some hope in an utterly depressed 32P, 3.94 applicant.

Thank you to all who contribute.

Lol what. The reason this thread didn't previously exist is 30-32 are competitive MCAT scores.

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[pre med 2014]

Excuse me? I'm a troll? I'm sorry nobody in medicine wants me. What do you want me to do, keep applying for medical school and keep getting put down. I want to do something with my life, don't you? Congrats on being accepted to your dream school right away. Sadly, it just doesn't work that way for a lot of people. I want to move on with my life and stop being a loser who still depends on their parents because they don't make enough money currently to support themselves. I'm glad you can be so judgemental of me, you are entering the perfect profession to be judgemental of others.

This resonates with me. I am overqualified for my work and I live in my parents basement.

You're not a loser forever, you're just a loser for right now

 

[KnuxNole]

Excuse me? I'm a troll? I'm sorry nobody in medicine wants me. What do you want me to do, keep applying for medical school and keep getting put down. I want to do something with my life, don't you? Congrats on being accepted to your dream school right away. Sadly, it just doesn't work that way for a lot of people. I want to move on with my life and stop being a loser who still depends on their parents because they don't make enough money currently to support themselves. I'm glad you can be so judgemental of me, you are entering the perfect profession to be judgemental of others.

I thought people already told you that you applied to schools which are reach. If you applied broadly to schools where you are above average("low tier" "unranked"), your chances can be much higher. Hopefully you get accepted this cycle. If you don't at least for next app, you can spread your apps around to ALL types of schools and not ONLY top tier schools. Good news is that when you do this, barring your ECs are good, you'll find yourself on a winning side of things.

I hope you don't ignore this point, because it's VERY important. You can't only apply to top tier schools. This goes as a general statement. Unless you have like a 4.0 and a 40MCAT...then sure. Otherwise, why shoot yourself in the foot? Remember, getting into ANY medical school(yes even those unranked no named MD schools) is not possible for half of the applicants!

 

[MedPR]

I've wanted to be a doctor my whole life. Obviously, I'm just not fit enough (or smart enough) judging by the fact that it is now January and I have nothing to show for. Sometimes in life, things just don't work out and you pick up and move on.

Also, please note how I also said that I will be applying to lower tier schools next year too. It's not like I have given up on medicine. I just want to make sure I'm back in school in two years. Again I want to do something with my life.

Right, because unless someone goes to medical school they are doing nothing with their life. 👍

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[Flash7]

This resonates with me. I am overqualified for my work and I live in my parents basement.

You're not a loser forever, you're just a loser for right now

Rofl

 

[MedPR]

Why didn't you apply DO? You'd be a shoo-in.

😎

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[Geebeejay]

32 isn't what's holding you back man. If you really want me to help you, send me a PM of some of your application. 32 is literally the average score for matriculating students, which means more than 50% of matriculants will have 32 or less for MCAT score. Also your gpa is excellent. I don't mean to put you down, and I know you're clearly frustrated, but to not receive ONE interview with these stats means you probably did something wrong.

 

[MelissaThompson]

I have a 3.7/30 and I received 4 II out of 12 schools I applied to (Nebraska, Colorado, Temple, and Wayne State)

 

[EnergyDrink]

32, 2.89 uGPA with 1 MD interview (no decision), 1 DO acceptance, 1 DO waitlist

non-URM

 

[MelissaThompson]

32, 2.89 uGPA with 1 MD interview (no decision), 1 DO acceptance, 1 DO waitlist

non-URM

2.89?!?!?!?!!? What is your sGPA?? What MD school interviewed you with that kind of GPA?

Kudos do you for being so gutsy!

 

[r1d1]

I heard 2 horror stories from last cycle: 1 person applied to 20 schools with 3.8/35 and got no ii; another applied to 30 with 3.3/37 with no ii. Both from the same state and ethnicity. 🙁

 

[MelissaThompson]

I heard 2 horror stories from last cycle: 1 person applied to 20 schools with 3.8/35 and got no ii; another applied to 30 with 3.3/37 with no ii. Both from the same state and ethnicity. 🙁

?? What? Asian + Being in California?

 

[MedPR]

?? What? Asian + Being in California?

I like how your first guess is ethnicity. I was thinking they applied too top heavy or applied late.

 

[MelissaThompson]

I heard 2 horror stories from last cycle: 1 person applied to 20 schools with 3.8/35 and got no ii; another applied to 30 with 3.3/37 with no ii. Both from the same state and ethnicity. 🙁

AAMC stat does not lie - roughly 80% of people with those numbers get accepted - and frankly ,if you have cookie-cutter ECs - you are almost guaranteed to be accepted if you applied broadly and early.

A defaming LOR or ridiculously-written PS will do that.

My point: it is the fault of the APPLICANT, not the system!

 

[EnergyDrink]

2.89?!?!?!?!!? What is your sGPA?? What MD school interviewed you with that kind of GPA?

Kudos do you for being so gutsy!

My sGPA isn't much higher.

My application isn't typical at all. I had a 3.6 average my last few semesters, and a 3.9 graduate GPA. I have some very hefty ECs and some really good LORs from people with clout.

Probably could have had some more luck if I applied to more schools. I only applied to about 6 USMD and 5 DO schools, due to financial limitations.

 

[MedPR]

My sGPA isn't much higher.

My application isn't typical at all. I had a 3.6 average my last few semesters, and a 3.9 graduate GPA. I have some very hefty ECs and some really good LORs from people with clout.

Probably could have had some more luck if I applied to more schools. I only applied to about 6 USMD and 5 DO schools, due to financial limitations.

People with clout. Wish I knew some of those.

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[aspiring20]

I heard 2 horror stories from last cycle: 1 person applied to 20 schools with 3.8/35 and got no ii; another applied to 30 with 3.3/37 with no ii. Both from the same state and ethnicity. 🙁

thats not good news. are they asians from CA?

 

[Translation]

30-32 mcat with interviews LOL .... wait you're serious. 😕

you're probably looking for the weak ECs/ back stabbing LOR writers thread.

 

[aspiring20]

I like how your first guess is ethnicity. I was thinking they applied too top heavy or applied late.

maybe it was asian californians applying too late and not broadly enough.

 

[MedPR]

maybe it was asian californians applying too late and not broadly enough.

Maybe it was any ethnicity applying too late and not broadly enough 😉

 

[Gut Shot]

I couldn't find a thread like this, only for 27-29. I think there should be a thread for this too, right?

Anyways, please help instill some hope in an utterly depressed 32P, 3.94 applicant.

Thank you to all who contribute.

https://www.aamc.org/data/facts/applicantmatriculant/

You may find Tables 17 and 24 to be of interest.

 

[pineapplepancakes]

I agree with the above. I got into Harvard Medical school. My MCAT was a 18 (7/7/4). Message me for details. It's not about your MCAT scores, it's the other stuff that counts.

😏

 

[Narmerguy]

I heard 2 horror stories from last cycle: 1 person applied to 20 schools with 3.8/35 and got no ii; another applied to 30 with 3.3/37 with no ii. Both from the same state and ethnicity. 🙁

Maybe it was any ethnicity applying too late and not broadly enough 😉

Agreed. Both the California drama and the Asian drama are way overplayed on SDN.

The general acceptance rates for applicants with a 35, 3.8:
Asians: 86%
Whites: 88%
URM: 94%

 

[GreyEarl]

Me. I have 14 interview invites so far and I'm not URM (see MDapps). I was complete in late August.

 

[Textbookversion]

Why are we entertaining another thread for this guy. He already got smacked down in the last one.

 

[Ppierce baller]

Me. I have 14 interview invites so far and I'm not URM (see MDapps). I was complete in late August.

Man, your post makes we feel aweful inside. I had a great chance to work with one of the big directors at the NIH post-bac program but my parents wouldn't let me go because I had to "stay home and work on things that matter (my MCAT)". I was all set to go and they told me that I would be throwing my life away if I didn't get an MCAT score right away and get into medical school right away. In hind sight, I think I threw away the only ligitimate chance I stood at compensating for my low MCAT. I really did throw my life away in the end. Oh well, I'm at a much less prestigious place right now and about a month or two away from my first first author paper so hopefully in the end I show some production to compensate for all the mistakes I've made in my life.

 

[Ppierce baller]

Why are we entertaining another thread for this guy. He already got smacked down in the last one.

I'm not looking for entertainment. That wasn't my purpose here.

 

[reviliver]

Man, your post makes we feel aweful inside. I had a great chance to work with one of the big directors at the NIH post-bac program but my parents wouldn't let me go because I had to "stay home and work on things that matter (my MCAT)". I was all set to go and they told me that I would be throwing my life away if I didn't get an MCAT score right away and get into medical school right away. In hind sight, I think I threw away the only ligitimate chance I stood at compensating for my low MCAT. I really did throw my life away in the end. Oh well, I'm at a much less prestigious place right now and about a month or two away from my first first author paper so hopefully in the end I show some production to compensate for all the mistakes I've made in my life.

Hey OP, I'd like to throw in some genuine words of concern and advice. Being rejected seems to have made you question not only your commitment to medicine but your self worth as a person. I'm on my third application cycle, four years out of undergrad, and I finally have my first acceptance. I know that it hurts when you don't get in to med school, but you can NOT let that cause you to doubt yourself.
You must exercise maturity and confidence by realistically assessing your life. Do you desperately want to go to med school, so badly that you will spend a year and thousands of dollars on a post-bac, re-take the MCAT, work your way up in research, and volunteer as much as your schedule allows? Because that's what I had to do. And I am not sorry at all that I did it, but if I wasn't willing to grow up and put in the work than I never would have gotten in. Your life is so far from over that it's funny. Pick yourself up and figure out what's next! I'm sure you will be great if you take the time to explore all of your options. You might not have to do all the stuff I did, but there is no substitute for thinking it through.
Good luck!

 

[GreyEarl]

Man, your post makes we feel aweful inside. I had a great chance to work with one of the big directors at the NIH post-bac program but my parents wouldn't let me go because I had to "stay home and work on things that matter (my MCAT)". I was all set to go and they told me that I would be throwing my life away if I didn't get an MCAT score right away and get into medical school right away. In hind sight, I think I threw away the only ligitimate chance I stood at compensating for my low MCAT. I really did throw my life away in the end. Oh well, I'm at a much less prestigious place right now and about a month or two away from my first first author paper so hopefully in the end I show some production to compensate for all the mistakes I've made in my life.

Aw, I didn't mean for that to happen. I meant to try and let the other guppies know that we can get into medical school with low-30s MCATs. I know that working at NIH has its perks, but as long as you get the most out of wherever you are working, I think that shows a lot.

 

[Doctor Strange]

Seven interview invites with a 32O/3.8. See MDapps for details. Something is seriously wrong with your application and/or selection of schools if you haven't gotten any invites. If you want help, we need details, bub.

 

[mzarrowsmith]

... hopefully in the end I show some production to compensate for all the mistakes I've made in my life.

I kind of just want to give you a hug.

 

[KnuxNole]

Thousands of applicants would kill for a high MCAT of a 32. Is your state schools non-competitive? Did you apply to schools with avg MCAT scores of 31 or lower??

 

[j0tt3r]

30R, 3.7 - 6 interview invites. Applied to 15 schools total. No state school, not URM. A friend of mine who applied two years ago had a 30Q (retake), 3.6 and had 1 interview invite. MCATs in the low 30s are enough to get you there, so there may be something else in your application holding you back.