Any ACTUAL reason to be cautious about Tylenol in pregnancy?

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GravelRider said:
Don’t you have fake injections to sell in return for some oxy prescriptions? You are in a fake specialty based on sham procedures. I guess we can still call you doctor if it makes you feel good.
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more idiocy out of you. Yea. All these textbooks are full of just shams:

Bonica's Management of Pain: 9781496349033: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com

Bonica's Management of Pain: 9781496349033: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com
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Practical Management of Pain: 9780323711012: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com

Practical Management of Pain: 9780323711012: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com
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Atlas of Image-Guided Intervention in Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine: 9781608317042: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com

Atlas of Image-Guided Intervention in Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine: 9781608317042: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com
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You’re the sham. 100 bucks says you’re a nurse anesthetist. If that even.
 
TeslaCoil said:
more idiocy out of you. Yea. All these textbooks are full of just shams:

Bonica's Management of Pain: 9781496349033: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com

Bonica's Management of Pain: 9781496349033: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com
a.co

Practical Management of Pain: 9780323711012: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com

Practical Management of Pain: 9780323711012: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com
a.co

Atlas of Image-Guided Intervention in Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine: 9781608317042: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com

Atlas of Image-Guided Intervention in Regional Anesthesia and Pain Medicine: 9781608317042: Medicine & Health Science Books @ Amazon.com
a.co

You’re the sham. 100 bucks says you’re a nurse anesthetist. If that even.
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Hey princess, fun quotes. Pain is still a fake specialty. You get to do sham procedures and your patients get some Oxy. Everybody wins!

Go back and look at my post history if you think calling me a murse is going to hurt my feelings. Hint: it’s not. I think some my direct quotes have been along the lines of “anesthesia is a glorified nursing specialty.”
 
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GravelRider said:
Hey princess, fun quotes. Pain is still a fake specialty. You get to do sham procedures and your patients get some Oxy. Everybody wins!

Go back and look at my post history if you think calling me a murse is going to hurt my feelings. Hint: it’s not. I think some my direct quotes have been along the lines of “anesthesia is a glorified nursing specialty.”
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Yea I get it. It’ll never sink in that those are the vibes you give everyone when you write on here. Un-doctor vibes. Thats alright I really dont have to dig deep to insult you. You make yourself look bad. You want to look like a jack@zz? Let me roll the carpet out for you.
 
TeslaCoil said:
Yea I get it. It’ll never sink in that those are the vibes you give everyone when you write on here. Un-doctor vibes. Thats alright I really dont have to dig deep to insult you. You make yourself look bad. You want to look like a jack@zz? Let me roll the carpet out for you.
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Well, it’s more of a free market thing when it comes to anesthesia and the nurses. I think we have an overly glorified view of ourselves…the same can be said about medicine as a whole. It’s a nuanced topic that is probably too deep for you.

Your specialty, though, is so filled with charlatans and con artists that more than likely that is what you are. Maybe you truly believe in what you are doing, but I’ve encountered so many pain docs that trade opioid prescriptions for the ability to bill for procedures of questionable value that I’ve sort of made up my mind on the specialty. If I’ve mischaracterized you then I both apologize and applaud you for your determination in helping many Americans make the necessary lifestyle changes that would allow them to live pain free lives without the need for opioids and procedures of questionable value.
 
GravelRider said:
Well, it’s more of a free market thing when it comes to anesthesia and the nurses. I think we have an overly glorified view of ourselves…the same can be said about medicine as a whole. It’s a nuanced topic that is probably too deep for you.

Your specialty, though, is so filled with charlatans and con artists that more than likely that is what you are. Maybe you truly believe in what you are doing, but I’ve encountered so many pain docs that trade opioid prescriptions for the ability to bill for procedures of questionable value that I’ve sort of made up my mind on the specialty. If I’ve mischaracterized you then I both apologize and applaud you for your determination in helping many Americans make the necessary lifestyle changes that would allow them to live pain free lives without the need for opioids and procedures of questionable value.
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You have. And I accept your apology. I practice 100% by the book. The only time I prescribe opiates is when they are the absolute 100% last and only option. Im not a serial injector. I have a highly diverse repertoire of procedures, most of which have excellent efficacy. When performed correctly radiofrequency ablations for instance, can be very effective. I always advise lifestyle change first. Weight loss, quit drinking and smoking. Exercise. Good diet. Etc. unfortunately by the time they are coming to me most patients are beyond that. I have a hard rx limit of 200 MME for opiates. If patients require much more I’ll start considering an intrathecal pump, for appropriate indications. I also treat a lot of cancer pain. I hope you dont seriously think the field of pain medicine is a sham. Thats pretty ridiculous.
 
TeslaCoil said:
You have. And I accept your apology. I practice 100% by the book. The only time I prescribe opiates is when they are the absolute 100% last and only option. Im not a serial injector. I have a highly diverse repertoire of procedures, most of which have excellent efficacy. When performed correctly radiofrequency ablations for instance, can be very effective. I always advise lifestyle change first. Weight loss, quit drinking and smoking. Exercise. Good diet. Etc. unfortunately by the time they are coming to me most patients are beyond that. I have a hard rx limit of 200 MME for opiates. If patients require much more I’ll start considering an intrathecal pump, for appropriate indications. I also treat a lot of cancer pain. I hope you dont seriously think the field of pain medicine is a sham. Thats pretty ridiculous.
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You do owe me 100 bucks, though. I’m not a nurse anesthetist.
 
GravelRider said:
Hey princess, fun quotes. Pain is still a fake specialty. You get to do sham procedures and your patients get some Oxy. Everybody wins!

Go back and look at my post history if you think calling me a murse is going to hurt my feelings. Hint: it’s not. I think some my direct quotes have been along the lines of “anesthesia is a glorified nursing specialty.”
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You're off your rocker. I've had several interventional pain procedures that have significantly improved my life. I've never been prescribed opioids by a pain doctor, nor have I ever been offered opioids outside of postoperative recovery. N=1, so maybe my experience is the exception.
 
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arkgal said:
You're off your rocker. I've had several interventional pain procedures that have significantly improved my life. I've never been prescribed opioid by a pain doctor nor have I ever been offended opioid outside of postoperative recovery. N=1, so maybe my experience is the exception.
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Sure…👌 Next you’re going to tell me that vaccines are effective and don’t directly cause autism and covid wasn’t manufactured in a laboratory in Wuhan China funded by Silicon Valley billionaires. And I’m the the crazy one 🤪
 
GravelRider said:
Sure…👌 Next you’re going to tell me that vaccines are effective and don’t directly cause autism and covid wasn’t manufactured in a laboratory in Wuhan China funded by Silicon Valley billionaires. And I’m the the crazy one 🤪
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Vaccines are effective and don't cause autism.😉COVID? What's that? Oh, you mean that hoax of a virus that allegedly killed millions? Government cover-up, I tell you. It wasn't real. 🤣 I was a travel nurse in Cali during the pandemic.
 
arkgal said:
You're off your rocker. I've had several interventional pain procedures that have significantly improved my life. I've never been prescribed opioids by a pain doctor, nor have I ever been offered opioids outside of postoperative recovery. N=1, so maybe my experience is the exception.
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I'll also add that interventional pain procedures are how we figured out I have funicular pain in my left leg. L5-S1 injections did nothing for the leg pain, despite pathology at that level. Surgery didn't help. Duloxetine and pregabalin help with the pain, no opioids. Later on, I was treated with injections for cervical radiculopathy, and the leg pain went away, for months. Repeat x 5 or 6 over the past couple of years, and the results are the same every single time: 90% leg pain gone. Cervical MRI shows some abutment at C5-6, but no compression, yet the injections prove compression of a spinal cord tract is happening. I keep putting off surgery because the injections provide a good 4-6 months of relief.

The injections take away my arm pain, too, which is diagnostic and therapeutic. So when someone says that pain medicine is a sham, I know that's BS. I can personally say it has helped. Maybe because I've been treated at academic centers, my experience is different than the typical community pain program? I don't know.
 
arkgal said:
I'll also add that interventional pain procedures are how we figured out I have funicular pain in my left leg. L5-S1 injections did nothing for the leg pain, despite pathology at that level. Surgery didn't help. Duloxetine and pregabalin help with the pain, no opioids. Later on, I was treated with injections for cervical radiculopathy, and the leg pain went away, for months. Repeat x 5 or 6 over the past couple of years, and the results are the same every single time: 90% leg pain gone. Cervical MRI shows some abutment at C5-6, but no compression, yet the injections prove compression of a spinal cord tract is happening. I keep putting off surgery because the injections provide a good 4-6 months of relief.

The injections take away my arm pain, too, which is diagnostic and therapeutic. So when someone says that pain medicine is a sham, I know that's BS. I can personally say it has helped. Maybe because I've been treated at academic centers, my experience is different than the typical community pain program? I don't know.
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Let’s bring it full circle: Have you tried Tylenol?
 
TeslaCoil said:
“Tylenol is a pretty solid pain medicine” 😂
Oohhh k.

Yes double boarded. Anesthesia and pain medicine. It is NOT a “solid” pain medicine. Mild analgesic at best.
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Its my first line for osteoarthritis, works pretty well in my experience. As well as NSAIDs? Of course not, but as long as you stay within the safe dosing range its much safer as well. Plus all of my patients have HTN, DM, and lipid issues so...
 
While we are on the subject of this ridiculous Tylenol study.

Doesn’t anyone still believe chloroprep is still superior to betadine
 
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arkgal said:
I'll also add that interventional pain procedures are how we figured out I have funicular pain in my left leg. L5-S1 injections did nothing for the leg pain, despite pathology at that level. Surgery didn't help. Duloxetine and pregabalin help with the pain, no opioids. Later on, I was treated with injections for cervical radiculopathy, and the leg pain went away, for months. Repeat x 5 or 6 over the past couple of years, and the results are the same every single time: 90% leg pain gone. Cervical MRI shows some abutment at C5-6, but no compression, yet the injections prove compression of a spinal cord tract is happening. I keep putting off surgery because the injections provide a good 4-6 months of relief.

The injections take away my arm pain, too, which is diagnostic and therapeutic. So when someone says that pain medicine is a sham, I know that's BS. I can personally say it has helped. Maybe because I've been treated at academic centers, my experience is different than the typical community pain program? I don't know.
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So the bold is definitely a part of it.

But the overall point is that there are quite a few studies showing that many of the common pain medicine procedures aren't very effective. Now I'm sure many of those studies (like many medical studies in general) have flaws that might make them not really helpful, but it is what it is.
 
Tylenol is great. Less systemically harmful than nsaids and less harmful than opiods. As long as you dont OD.

But yes, its for low level pain. Works well for that. Are some expecting it to work on chronic pain patients who gulp down dilaudid??

It works well for what it works well for
 
UscGhost said:
Tylenol is great. Less systemically harmful than nsaids and less harmful than opiods. As long as you dont OD.

But yes, its for low level pain. Works well for that. Are some expecting it to work on chronic pain patients who gulp down dilaudid??

It works well for what it works well for
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I take it occasionally, and it works fine for minor-moderate pain not related to my neuropathy. Ibuprofen is probably a better antipyretic, but I still prefer Tylenol for a fever, and it works well enough for that. It's nice that it comes in an extended-release version.

I do prefer ibuprofen for inflammatory pain. When I broke my foot in July, in Japan (talk about a way to kill a vacation), ibuprofen was my drug of choice. I came home on crutches covered in Japanese writing. 🤣
 
arkgal said:
I take it occasionally, and it works fine for minor-moderate pain not related to my neuropathy. Ibuprofen is probably a better antipyretic, but I still prefer Tylenol for a fever, and it works well enough for that. It's nice that it comes in an extended-release version.

I do prefer ibuprofen for inflammatory pain. When I broke my foot in July, in Japan (talk about a way to kill a vacation), ibuprofen was my drug of choice. I came home on crutches covered in Japanese writing. 🤣
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Yea.

And for kids, it great. Can alternate for fever with ibuprofen
 
chessknt said:
This whole announcement is a circus designed to distract people, classic flood the zone with random bull****. Doesn't deserve a thread let alone an actual discussion.
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Radar26 said:
I’m more interested in why announce this right now?
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Forget Tylenol guys, let's talk about Amelia Earhart!

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER
 
It is pretty clear that the attacks on Tylenol are driven by RFK’s friends in the plaintiff’s tort community, not by actual physicians or medical science.

This is what you get when put a narcissist lawyer with a financial interest in extracting money from the healthcare industry—in charge of the healthcare industry.
 
Well if autism wasn't enough for people to stop pregnant use of acetaminophen, I wonder if potentially making your future son feminine might.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Prenatal exposure to paracetamol/acetaminophen and precursor aniline impairs masculinisation of male brain and behaviour - PubMed

Paracetamol/acetaminophen (N-Acetyl-p-Aminophenol; APAP) is the preferred analgesic for pain relief and fever during pregnancy. It has therefore caused concern that several studies have reported that prenatal exposure to APAP results in developmental alterations in both the reproductive tract...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
 
jope said:
Well if autism wasn't enough for people to stop pregnant use of acetaminophen, I wonder if potentially making your future son feminine might.

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Prenatal exposure to paracetamol/acetaminophen and precursor aniline impairs masculinisation of male brain and behaviour - PubMed

Paracetamol/acetaminophen (N-Acetyl-p-Aminophenol; APAP) is the preferred analgesic for pain relief and fever during pregnancy. It has therefore caused concern that several studies have reported that prenatal exposure to APAP results in developmental alterations in both the reproductive tract...
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
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The study is based on rodents, which don't have a developed prefrontal cortex. Who knows what effect if any this would have on a male fetus. The prefrontal cortex also influences mating behavior.
 
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GassYous said:
I was told that betadine doesn't kill fungus while chloroprep does
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That’s fair enough

I’m just concerned when there is conflicting evidence (re cholorprep) with payments involved to researcher

I’m not concern with Tylenol stupid talk stuff
 
The point isn't about how effective an analgesic acetaminophen is.

The point is that Republicans basically declare war on science on every front, including medicine and vaccines. Evolution, climate change, medicine, you name it. They're against the scientific consensus.

And before you accuse me of being partison, I am a small government person who has traditionally been more aligned with the Republican party until Trump and MAGA.
 
zizzer said:
The point isn't about how effective an analgesic acetaminophen is.

The point is that Republicans basically declare war on science on every front, including medicine and vaccines. Evolution, climate change, medicine, you name it. They're against the scientific consensus.

And before you accuse me of being partison, I am a small government person who has traditionally been more aligned with the Republican party until Trump and MAGA.
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Republicans claim they are 'big' on small government, but the reality is that each Republican administration has expanded the government. They aren't any less advocate for small government than the Democrats.

Come to think of it, wouldn't a small government let parents and their doctors make decisions about gender affirming care, instead of making it a political issue? Let gay people be allowed to marry happily? Naw, they want to take away rights, not give them.
 
TeslaCoil said:
“Tylenol is a pretty solid pain medicine” 😂
Oohhh k.

Yes double boarded. Anesthesia and pain medicine. It is NOT a “solid” pain medicine. Mild analgesic at best.
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I mean, everybody has had Tylenol and felt the same severe pain afterwards. I'm not sure double boarding is even necessary in this one 🤣
 
zizzer said:
The point isn't about how effective an analgesic acetaminophen is.

The point is that Republicans basically declare war on science on every front, including medicine and vaccines. Evolution, climate change, medicine, you name it. They're against the scientific consensus.

And before you accuse me of being partison, I am a small government person who has traditionally been more aligned with the Republican party until Trump and MAGA.
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Good thing the other group has the monopoly on "science," the ones that had you jogging alone in a huge park... wearing a mask 🤣

And let's not even get into the whole sex chromosomes thingy......
 
We'llBeDoneIn15Minutes said:
Always a classic

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Funny story. A lableak truther lost $100,000 after a debate he organized demonstrated his arguments weren't as well supported as the consensus view that a zoonotic origin is most likely. It was an 18 hour debate. Both sides as well prepared as possible. The conspiracy theorist lost soundly.

www.protagonist-science.com

Lableak truther loses $100,000 in his own debate

Scientific literacy can be lucrative in the age of myth and manipulation
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Nature’s neglected GoF laboratory

The case for a zoonotic origin of SARS-CoV-2
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