Any Asians in your classes>??

[novacek88]

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Even IF it's hypocrisy, as an immigrant or recent decendant of an immigrant, isn't there the slightest repsonsibility on the part of the immigrant to attempt to take part in mainstream society? Not every social organization considered "American" is all-white, depending on the demographics of the area of its members, but every Asian social organization is all Asian, every Hispanic social organization is all Hispanic, every African American social organization is all African American, because they are literally advertised as such. For what reason would a white person want to join something called the "Asian-American society?"

Why would one have to join a society? Who is talking about the "Asian-American society" The party I was referring to was a bunch of friends who threw a party together. They just happened to be Asian. It had nothing to do with a formal Asian American club let alone a university setting. They were drinking beer, speaking English and eating Pizza. I guess that's not very American in your eyes? What is it that they are not doing that isn't very American.

I just find it odd that you lay all the responsibility with these minority groups to integrate into main stream American society yet you don't ask the mainstream aka white people to spend more time learning and trying to integrate with people who are not white.

I personally don't care if white people hang out only with white people or if Asians only hang out with Asians. I have never complained to my white friends that they have not done more to learn or accept my Hispanic culture. Likewise, the last thing I want to hear is them complaining about Hispanics not integrating into the "mainstream" culture. The only thing I take issue with is when someone complains that minority groups need to do more to integrate into the mainstream. Now that's truly funny because for decades I have yet to hear people encourage the mainstream to integrate their minority members by simply taking the effort to learn more about their culture. It's this double standard that I truly find disturbing. In other words, why do minorities always have to make the first move.

Now in conclusion, let me add that I do not mean to generalize. Obviously, not all white people follow this mantra. I do have some white friends who have taken the effort to learn about my heritage and accept my culture but for the sake of argument, I have made some generalizations. If I have offended anyone, I do apologize and I will end my argument here.

 

[novacek88]

I don't go to many all asian parties, because I don't feel the need to assert my racial identity. How can you expect them to not feel awkward if you create a social group based upon race and then invite others who are from another ethnicity? I know very well that I am both Chinese and American, and i do not need to limit my social sphere to other Chinese people. I prefer a diverse group of friends, because actually getting to know different groups of people is the best way to handle all the racial stigmas that still exist today.

Why do you feel that attending an all Asian party is your way of asserting your racial identity. What if those people were just your friends who happen to be all Asian? Why do you see your attending that party as some political statement?

I don't feel the need to diversify my plate. Friendship has no color. If all my friends happen to be white then they are white. If all my friends happen to be Hispanic or Asian so be it. I don't make a concerted effort to avoid an All Hispanic party. Why should I? If those people are genuinely my friends and I enjoy their company, why should I try to make a political statement? As of now, almost all the people I hang out with are white because many of my Hispanic and Asian friends don't live near me. I don't feel I have to intentionally diversify my friendship portfolio by making a contrived effort to meet some Hispanics near me just to satisfy some quota.

 

[Dies Irae]

Why would one have to join a society? Who is talking about the "Asian-American society" The party I was referring to was a bunch of friends who threw a party together. They just happened to be Asian. It had nothing to do with a formal Asian American club let alone a university setting. They were drinking beer, speaking English and eating Pizza. I guess that's not very American in your eyes? What is it that they are not doing that isn't very American.

I just find it odd that you lay all the responsibility with these minority groups to integrate into main stream American society yet you don't ask the mainstream aka white people to spend more time learning and trying to integrate with people who are not white.

I personally don't care if white people hang out only with white people or if Asians only hang out with Asians. I have never complained to my white friends that they have not done more to learn or accept my Hispanic culture. Likewise, the last thing I want to hear is them complaining about Hispanics not integrating into the "mainstream" culture. The only thing I take issue with is when someone complains that minority groups need to do more to integrate into the mainstream. Now that's truly funny because for decades I have yet to hear people encourage the mainstream to integrate their minority members by simply taking the effort to learn more about their culture. It's this double standard that I truly find disturbing. In other words, why do minorities always have to make the first move.

Now in conclusion, let me add that I do not mean to generalize. Obviously, not all white people follow this mantra. I do have some white friends who have taken the effort to learn about my heritage and accept my culture but for the sake of argument, I have made some generalizations. If I have offended anyone, I do apologize and I will end my argument here.

Your party is the same idea as an Asian American Society-just on a smaller scale. I never said anything about not laying any responsibility on white people to learn the culture of others but was responding to something you said.

It is not just minories as opposed to whites. What about minories among themselves? How many times have you seen a Black person at an Asian American party/social club/etc.?

You are speaking from a position of critiquing white privelage instead of hypocrisy, and you are criticisizing people who in essence want the same thing that you do, a diverse and mutually understanding society. WASPs have been here longer, and they have stronger roots in America. The people on the other side simple believe that minorities have a greater responsiblity to both educate and join the mainstream, due to the virtue of the fact that they have been here for less time. The US has a harsh history of racism and oppression, and some people react to it negatively.

 

[bansheeDO]

I don't go to many all asian parties, because I don't feel the need to assert my racial identity. How can you expect them to not feel awkward if you create a social group based upon race and then invite others who are from another ethnicity? I know very well that I am both Chinese and American, and i do not need to limit my social sphere to other Chinese people. I prefer a diverse group of friends, because actually getting to know different groups of people is the best way to handle all the racial stigmas that still exist today.

So it's alright for caucasians to hang out in large groups with mostly caucasians since they are in the majority and have established roots in this country, but if minorities assemble together, they are suddenly ostracizing others in a sinister manner? Did it every dawn on you that minorities probably get together not for the purpose of isolating others but to attain some form of acceptance that they feel they can only achieve among their own people. As much as our country is improving in regards to tolerance, minorities are still not fully accepted by the majority for whatever reason. This is a big reason why minorities get together in the first place. Among themselves, they don't have to filter through petty stereotypes that minorities endure on a daily basis. And if you are Asian, you will know exactly what I'm talking about. How about the classic: "Why don't you speak with an accent"

I just don't think it's fair to ask one to abandon his cultural identity to assimilate into the mainstream. Just because the majority of Americans have no sense of cultural identity due generational dilution, I don't feel it's necessary for a person who has strong ties to his or her culture to abandon those aspects so that the mainstream will accept him or her. That's the real problem and one you have failed to address. The mainstream doens't want to learn about new cultures even if you made an effort to teach them. They want you to abandon your culture and become like them, then and only then will they accept you. Those are the terms they have layed forth and ones that are terribly one sided. You can't justify those terms simply because you have been here longer. This country was founded on principles of freedom in which one is allowed to practice and live however he or she chooses. Perhaps it's time the mainstream did more to become more tolerant and less xenophobic.

Yes, I'm Asian and I attend all asian parties frequently. I have a diverse group of friends but I'm not ashamed to attend an all asian party. I attend these parties because I enjoy them and not to assert my racial identity as you would put it. I'm not going to avoid hanging out with my friends just to appease the mainstream. If the mainstream feels I'm abandoning them, that's their problem. Maybe they should accompany me to a party the next time I invite them.

Whoaa that was heated!

😍

Susan

 

[MikeyLu2010]

Its good to see that everyone is defending themselves to not appear racist 👍

it seems that ppl like you and me who are applying to med school are educated enuff to not hate on other races..hopefully i get into some where..so i can hang out with you guys!

 

[Portier]

I read a bunch of these posts, and everyone is working hard to be quite politically correct while they disagree. I like that.


I just wanted to bring up one other "thing" I've noticed.

If you're used to being a minority, then it's easy to blend in. If you're used to being around people of the same race as you, it's harder for you to blend in.

Next time you're at an IOWA dance club, look for the 2 or 3 black guys (I think that's the entire state's population). They're blending in, but are also sorta' distinct and cool. I've seen this all over the place...Florida, Louisiana, South Carolina, Virginia, Maryland, D.C.......European countries

I've seen the same thing from Asian guys, Hispanic guys, etc.

Being different can be a good way to pick up chicks.

This is sorta' off topic, but worth noting.

Minority status doesn't mean marginalized...like it used to. It only means your genes are different than the current most populous race.

 

[Dies Irae]

So it's alright for caucasians to hang out in large groups with mostly caucasians since they are in the majority and have established roots in this country, but if minorities assemble together, they are suddenly ostracizing others in a sinister manner? Did it every dawn on you that minorities probably get together not for the purpose of isolating others but to attain some form of acceptance that they feel they can only achieve among their own people. As much as our country is improving in regards to tolerance, minorities are still not fully accepted by the majority for whatever reason. This is a big reason why minorities get together in the first place. Among themselves, they don't have to filter through petty stereotypes that minorities endure on a daily basis. And if you are Asian, you will know exactly what I'm talking about. How about the classic: "Why don't you speak with an accent"

"Stereotype" is an overused as a buzzword for pointing out ignorance and intolerance. General impressions can change very quickly, but it depends on whether you work with them or against them. Getting antagonistic with them will not solve the problem. When I get asked, "Why do you speak English so well." I simply explain that I spent most of my life in the United States, and I recieved my primary and secondary education here, and that there are many ethnically Chinese people like myself who grew up in the United States and whose first language is English. The next time this person encouters an asian person speaking English without an accent, he will probably not ask the same question. As long as there are pheonotypical differences between ethincities, there will never be full tolerance, but there are acceptable gains and acceptable sacrifice. What if Martin Luthar King believed that there was "form of acceptance that they feel they can only achieve among their own people?"

I just don't think it's fair to ask one to abandon his cultural identity to assimilate into the mainstream. Just because the majority of Americans have no sense of cultural identity due generational dilution, I don't feel it's necessary for a person who has strong ties to his or her culture to abandon those aspects so that the mainstream will accept him or her. That's the real problem and one you have failed to address. The mainstream doens't want to learn about new cultures even if you made an effort to teach them. They want you to abandon your culture and become like them, then and only then will they accept you. Those are the terms they have layed forth and ones that are terribly one sided. You can't justify those terms simply because you have been here longer. This country was founded on principles of freedom in which one is allowed to practice and live however he or she chooses. Perhaps it's time the mainstream did more to become more tolerant and less xenophobic.

It is not about being fair. Life is not fair. There are people being born hadicapped, autistic, in empoverished conditions, and without a home. The very virtue of the fact that we are Americans, means that we have inherant freedoms and a voice that many around the world will die for. Too many of us take it for granted. The system is not perfect, but in relative history, what has exceeded it? When you say, "They want you to abandon your culture..." you don't mean everyone in the majority, but a small group of people who believe in absolute integration. There are extremists of on both sides, as but most people take on a moderate opinion.

The question is, how much can you realistically hold on to your ethinic identity? "Asians" are not generally "Asian" but a vulcanized minority subsect of American culture, similar to "Goths" or "skaters."

Most of them do not speak Chinese/Korean/Japanese among themselves nor do they attest to the same values and beliefs as people living in China or Korea. There is a significant portion of "culture" that has already been lost and your Asian identity is waning. Consider whether your children be writing and speaking Chinese or Korean as fluently as you do or as your parents do, and, if not, what exactly justifies their being Asian? Are you not basing your identity on the same physical traits that you believe is causing you to be marginalized by mainstream America?

 

[Dies Irae]

Being different can be a good way to pick up chicks.

That sums up everything I said perfectly. 🙂 👍

 

[Portier]

That sums up everything I said perfectly. 🙂 👍

There was no place where this was more evident for me that in Bulgaria. The girls at clubs weren't interested in dancing with a guy that looked like every other guy in Bulgaria...white guys.

However, our minoirty shipmates were beating them off with a stick.

 

[Portier]

So Im cruising the osteopathic boards readin bout DO asains and who's ugly mug do I see doing his best James Bond, but Ray from UNF. Big head Todd here, whats up man? Dude, I laughed for about 10 minutes at that picture.

BIG HEAD TODD!!!!

PM me and tell me where you're going to school.

 

[Dies Irae]

There was no place where this was more evident for me that in Bulgaria. The girls at clubs weren't interested in dancing with a guy that looked like every other guy in Bulgaria...white guys.

However, our minoirty shipmates were beating them off with a stick.

Keep procreating with other races until we all look alike. Here are some possible combos:

chocolate-vanilla swirl
mocha-butter twist
almond-banana frizzle
caramel-chocolate whip
😍 😍 😍

 

[Raggaman]

I went to a white majority in a white town. I loved being the only non-white guy in situations...that meant I got more attention! YES! Made me unique compared to other guys....MEANING MORE CHICKS!! YEAH!!!!

 

[daelroy]

I went to a white majority in a white town. I loved being the only non-white guy in situations...that meant I got more attention! YES! Made me unique compared to other guys....MEANING MORE CHICKS!! YEAH!!!!

Speak for yourselves. I went through a lot of hell growing up in a small town that was predominantly white in the South.

 

[Dies Irae]

Speak for yourselves. I went through a lot of hell growing up in a small town that was predominantly white in the South.

It's a completely different situation in some areas of the South. I know that there is a certain county in Georgia that only recently changed its textbooks to read "The Civil War" instead of "The War of Northern Aggression."

 

[heech]

I grew up in a 95% white community. I was never a victim of overt racism; I live far from the South, in a very liberal educated community where I can honestly say my family was embraced. I had a great upbringing, filled with great memories with 100% white friends.

But you can't tell me that being "different" isn't a source of trauma. I remember having vivid dreams, in elementary school, where my eye slant "problems" would some how be magically rectified.

It was never intentional, but I can honestly say that the majority of my friends are now Asian. None of this is absolute (I'm not boycotting my white friends by any stretch of the imagination). I actually think its very much a subconscious process, and a comfort issue. We like similar foods; we like similar girls; we understand each others' parents; we have similar values. In other words, its more a cultural rather than a purely ethnic distinction.

Look around your campus, regardless of race. Are you going to tell me there aren't cliques based on other cultural similarities? The jocks naturally more likely to hang out with other jocks, get together, drink beer and watch sports? The liberal hippies hanging out with others who like to wear flannel, listen to ska/punk, and talk peace corps? The rich girls who like to get together and talk about shopping discounts and hair treatments?

I don't think any of that's a surprise. And those of you who claim you like "being different" as a way of picking up chicks... so, how should I interpret this? The A&F-wearing jock is the center of attention at the local punk concert, while the goth boy is the focus at the local sorority party? Yea, being a minority is really an instant ticket into getting into someones' pants alright.

Many, many asians (second-generation and beyond) have internalized cultural values that are distinct from the white majority. That's a statement of fact. The fact that we feel more comfortable with others that share similar values shouldn't be a surprise, nor should it be perceived as a negative.

It doesn't have to be seen as being "exclusive" of others; the emphasis is on the "inclusiveness" of being with others like ourselves.

 

[DoctorRama]

hey docbill,
dr rama's post in this thread said her PARENTS dont care. her previous post (from the other thread) was talking about her RELATIVES. there is a difference.

so are you going to DO school only b/c you couldn't get into an MD school?

Thanks 1hot, I didn't even realize this thread had continued. 👍

docbill, ultimately it depends on the person's family and their opinion on DO vs. MD. your parents might not approve whereas mine do. does it really matter?

 

[daelroy]

It's a completely different situation in some areas of the South. I know that there is a certain county in Georgia that only recently changed its textbooks to read "The Civil War" instead of "The War of Northern Aggression."

In some areas...try most areas of the South. And by South, I'm referring to Texas. It could have been much worse had I grown up in areas of the Deep South or "True" South as they like to put it such as Mississippi, Alabama, Georgia, Kentucky, Tennessee etc.

In Texas, the racism is subtle. There is not much overt racism there which is why people generally don't consider Texas in the same league as those other states I mentioned. Racism isn't really felt there until it comes to the issue of dating. Although many Texans are wealthy and educated, they are culturally very conservative. I had a lot of women who were attracted to me but wouldn't date me because I didn't attend church or because their parents couldn't deal with them dating someone who wasn't white. I had a lot of friends but dating was next to impossible. Since I have left Texas, I have never had trouble dating and meeting women. But I just had to laugh when you guys implied that being different was a way to pick up chicks because my ethnicity is exactly what prevented me from getting chicks.

But I see your point as well. Had I grown up in a predominanly white town in a liberal state like California, Oregon, Vermont or Massachusetts, things would have been a lot different. And I agree that you can't stereotype white people either. It really depends on what area of the country you are talking about. I live in a very liberal city now and the differences are astounding. It's like I'm in a different country.

 

[Old_Mil]

I just find it odd that you lay all the responsibility with these minority groups to integrate into main stream American society yet you don't ask the mainstream aka white people to spend more time learning and trying to integrate with people who are not white.

That would be because this is America, not China/India/etc. Our job in coming here is not to try and become a human hedge fund based on an exchange rate differential, nor is it to try and terraform a small part of this country into the old country. Our job in coming here is to become Americans, not hyphenated Asians.

Now that's truly funny because for decades I have yet to hear people encourage the mainstream to integrate their minority members by simply taking the effort to learn more about their culture. It's this double standard that I truly find disturbing.

The only double standard is the one practiced by those who would browbeat the majority population of the United States for not doing something the majority populations of their home countries would never dream of doing.

 

[esposo]

That would be because this is America, not China/India/etc. Our job in coming here is not to try and become a human hedge fund based on an exchange rate differential, nor is it to try and terraform a small part of this country into the old country. Our job in coming here is to become Americans, not hyphenated Asians.

And we all know America doesn't have a history of that. I guess Irish neighborhoods, Mormons and the state of Utah, the Amish, Little Italys, Chinatowns, French Creole/Cajun neighborhoods in Louisiana don't exist. I suppose all those Europeans arrived here and adopted the practices of Native Americans. Sorry but America is a conglomerate of hyphenated-everything. Tera-forming small parts of this country into the old country is what we do best, and most people don't seem to have a problem with it. I did say "most" people.

The only double standard is the one practiced by those who would browbeat the majority population of the United States for not doing something the majority populations of their home countries would never dream of doing.

And those other countries were never quoted as saying: "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse of your teeming shore. Send these, the homeless, tempest-tost to me, I lift my lamp beside the golden door"

 

[otisredding]

First off, i am chinese and i am currently applying to DO school. i was wondering if there are any asian people in ya'lls classes. If so could you tell me the college you are from and roughly how many are in your class..

this is not meant to offend anyone.

No. I have never seen or even heard of an asian in medical school. 😀

I guess I don't really see why it matters. To put your mind at ease I can assure you that every US medical school has its share of Asians, African Americans, Latins, Caucasians, etc.

But since you brought it up. I would like to ask anyone who wants to answer if they would be opposed to attending a Medical school where they were the only of their particular race?

 

[heech]

I think only the extremists make race their single deciding factor, in any thing.

A better question would be: let's assume you're white, and you're asked to choose one of two absolutely identical medical schools, one where 99% of the student-body is African-American (aka "traditionally black college"), and one where at least 50% of the student-body is white... which one would you prefer?

I don't pretend to know how you'd answer... but personally, if given a choice, I absolutely would prefer being in an environment where I'll have Asian classmates that can share in Chinese New Year dumpling dinners, dim sum trips, and understand why I don't send people white flowers or clocks as birthday presents.

IMO, identity should absolutely be a matter of personal (but perhaps subconscious) choice. If you want to be American with no hyphen attached, go ahead. If you prefer to be American with a strong emphasis on hyphen, feel free. I've known many excellent people who've made different issues on this matter to believe that there's one true answer on how we should interact with society at large.

And in response to one comment above: many of us (or our parents) didn't come here to take on the "job of being American" (or part of the American mainstream). We're here to find a life of better economic opportunity, and whether we choose to discard our previous identity/nationality of being Chinese, Indian, Korean, or whatever else is something you have no say over.

 

[mr.weirdscience]

That would be because this is America, not China/India/etc. Our job in coming here is not to try and become a human hedge fund based on an exchange rate differential, nor is it to try and terraform a small part of this country into the old country. Our job in coming here is to become Americans, not hyphenated Asians.

Why is the issue of integration always applied to Asians and Hispanics? Someone above mentioned the Amish and Mormon communities. Personally, I don't find anything wrong with these communities and I respect their right to conduct their lives however they see fit. But if someone is going to criticize a group of people for failing to integrate into the mainstream, why are these groups never addressed in the same manner? I think the answer is race plays a bigger part of this than some would like to believe.

 

[Verbatim81]

Edit: personally, asians that only hang out with asians freak me out.

...but asians that dont hang out with other asians are the worst of them all.

 

[LeemerDO]

"Any Asians in medical school?"

Is that like a trick question or something? Seems to me like it comes with the territory. 😀

 

[newyorkcougar]

"Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go around commiting hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact we all should face--
Everyone makes judgements based on race."

--Avenue Q (Tony-winning Broadway show)

 

[MikeyLu2010]

...but asians that dont hang out with other asians are the worst of them all.

haha...good one 😀

 

[Kubed]

"Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes.
Doesn't mean we go around commiting hate crimes.
Look around and you will find
No one's really color blind.
Maybe it's a fact we all should face--
Everyone makes judgements based on race."

--Avenue Q (Tony-winning Broadway show)

ha! ... so good

 

[TIGER STYLE]

That is fine. Don't resent anything and don't get all worked up.

If you care to believe it or not... if you don't... DON'T READ ON!

Just sit back and ask these question. Remember I have parents that are old fassion and not western grown/new age. What are my parents, or other response to you when explaining DO philosophy to them.

They will ask you if it is an MD. You say no but it is physician. They will say why is it not an MD. You say cause it is called DO. They will say is this Naturalpathetic. You answer no... it is completely the same as MD. They will answer, why is it not called MD then. You say cause of history and development from over 125 years. They will ask you what is the difference... you say.. well hollistic approach to medicine and OMT. What is OMT... well something like Physiotherapy... ohhh so you going to be a physiotherapist.. NOooooooooooooo.

Then they will go and ask a friend. And the friend will say ... oh yeah it is for those who can't get into med school... MD... so they do DO.

They will come back and tell you this... you say .. NOOOOOooo NOT true... They will say well I got this info from a good family friend who is an MD and he told me that. Then they will tell you I also read it on USNews. "getting the other medical degree".

REALITY BITES but that is the case.

SORRY about YOUR parents! My parents and grandparents are very traditional Vietnamese and after I explained to them what MY degree is...they were so happy and proud. And even though I am a general surgery intern now...I still perform OMT on all my family every time I see them.

For me, getting a DO is the best thing ever! Reality doesn't bite...reality is great!

 

[TIGER STYLE]

Yeahhhh NOOOOOOOooo

So what you are saying is that I am wrong.

Most Asian/Indian/Arabic/Jewish Parents would be totally fine with DO degree and not say oh my son could not make it as an MD.

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YES...That is EXACTLY what we are saying. Everyone I know Asian/Indian/Arabic/Jewish are not only "fine" with it, they are very proud of it.

 

[TIGER STYLE]

[QOUTE] I still stand by the previous statements about Traditional Asian/Indian etc... parents not being thrilled by DO option over MD. BUT AGAIN. I am NOT an expert and just speaking from personal experience.[/QUOTE]

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Y E A H...you are definitely not the expert.

 

[TIGER STYLE]

i think it's asian parents' problem. it seems there are no better jobs other than med or law for their kids.

...OR it's because we chose to be in medicine because we enjoy our work and at the same time, helping a ton of people that's not feeling so great. Oh God...the thought of something so horrible as that!

 

[unbiasedopinion]

Yeahhhh NOOOOOOOooo

So what you are saying is that I am wrong.

Most Asian/Indian/Arabic/Jewish Parents would be totally fine with DO degree and not say oh my son could not make it as an MD.

YES...That is EXACTLY what we are saying. Everyone I know Asian/Indian/Arabic/Jewish are not only "fine" with it, they are very proud of it.

What Asian families "know" is limited to what their kids tell them. If you tell them that a DO degree is the same as an MD degree, then they couldn't care less what degree you get. However, if you are in a family that already has an MD, there is no way in hell that they are going to be "fine" with a DO degree. No Asian person would get a DO degree is they are qualified to get an MD degree.

 

[CircleTheDrain]

What Asian families "know" is limited to what their kids tell them. If you tell them that a DO degree is the same as an MD degree, then they couldn't care less what degree you get. However, if you are in a family that already has an MD, there is no way in hell that they are going to be "fine" with a DO degree. No Asian person would get a DO degree is they are qualified to get an MD degree.

...and you base this "impression" on what exactly? 🙄

 

[Dies Irae]

What Asian families "know" is limited to what their kids tell them. If you tell them that a DO degree is the same as an MD degree, then they couldn't care less what degree you get. However, if you are in a family that already has an MD, there is no way in hell that they are going to be "fine" with a DO degree. No Asian person would get a DO degree is they are qualified to get an MD degree.

Dont tell me your asian!

If you're going to make asinine generalizations about all Asian families everywhere, you should at least explain your asinine position on the profession as well.

From "DO vs. Foreign MD" thread http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=215440&page=13&pp=15

DO's and US students going to foreign medical schools are all MD rejects anyways. It's like two losers arguing about whether a Yugo is better than a Geo. They both suck.

I keep on hearing the argument that a person with a GPA of 3.8 and a 39S on the MCAT would not necessarily make a better doctor than a person with a 3.4 and a 25O. Please!!! Are you saying that the janitor at my school would make a good DO candidate then? The average person respects doctors (MD's) because they know the difficulty in becoming a doctor. It is more than just hard work. It is the combination of superb grades, high MCAT scores, and the ability to socialize that make real doctors (MD's). If you take away the good grades and the high MCAT scores, you end up with a car salesman.

When I am in the hospital for an emergency, I don't need some slick ******* trying to find out what is wrong with me. I want someone intelligent who can quickly identify the problem or improvise a solution to my problem.

If I wanted to gamble with my life, then I would go to a DO or a foreign medical student.

Troll.

 

[TIGER STYLE]

From "DO vs. Foreign MD" thread http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=215440&page=13&pp=15



Troll.[/QUOTE]


HAHA!! Thanks Dies Irae. Now we can just ignore this idiot...

swandive

 

[heech]

Geez, I hope this guy isn't Asian. How embarassing.

Higher GPA/MCAT = better doctor? So... where else does this logic lead us? The geeky kid in HS who got a 1600 (er, 2400) on his SATs and a 4.0 GPA is therefore most likely to become an ultra-billionaire and ruler of the known world? Heck, why stop there? I'm pretty sure the kid that came in as "valedictorian" of my 6th grade class is most likely the supreme being... I don't know why I even bother trying.

Just curious, unbiasedopinion, where'd you go to undergrad? It better be one of the 3-4 schools that I have in mind, or you're just a perennial loser who I'll never want as my doctor.

 

[TIGER STYLE]

Geez, I hope this guy isn't Asian. How embarassing.

Higher GPA/MCAT = better doctor? So... where else does this logic lead us? The geeky kid in HS who got a 1600 (er, 2400) on his SATs and a 4.0 GPA is therefore most likely to become an ultra-billionaire and ruler of the known world? Heck, why stop there? I'm pretty sure the kid that came in as "valedictorian" of my 6th grade class is most likely the supreme being... I don't know why I even bother trying.

Just curious, unbiasedopinion, where'd you go to undergrad? It better be one of the 3-4 schools that I have in mind, or you're just a perennial loser who I'll never want as my doctor.

Hi heech:

Don't give this guy any gasoline. It doesn't matter what you say.
He's a troll.

 

[dr.z]

Geez, I hope this guy isn't Asian. How embarassing.