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Hi I was just curious if anyone has matched into academic IM programs with just COMLEX scores. I already took both but was just curious.
Happens more often then you thinkHi I was just curious if anyone has matched into academic IM programs with just COMLEX scores. I already took both but was just curious.
Yes. I matched to a midwest university program with comlex scores only.Hi I was just curious if anyone has matched into academic IM programs with just COMLEX scores. I already took both but was just curious.
A good amount of programs CAN interpret a comlex score and the AOA has pushed hard to provide tools to PDs to utilize these and in the near future, integrate these into the NRMP. However, just because they CAN interpret them does not mean they prefer it and most programs will be pretty clear on their websites. Another way to assess is to utilize the FRIEDA tool to determine percentage of DO's. The larger the percent of the class, the more likely there are a few in there that did not take USMLE.It would be nice to see some stats on it. I know a lot of places do say USMLE OR COMLEX but wondering if they are just saying that. I always wondered if academic PDs can interpret COMLEX scores.
I personally know a DO at Dartmouth with comlex only. He scored 90+%ile on both Levels though
Yea and this assuming PD's will know what a great COMLEX score is...Yep, if you only take comlex you have to prove that you "would have done well on step" by destroying those exams which ridiculous. Honestly would've been easier to just do "decently good" at comlex and usmle and get more interviews.
There are a lot of behind the scenes resource being provided to PDs. Especially now that there are DO's within the ACGME committees. Probably won't change anything outside of PD's who may consider it if they needed to do that (aka remove NRMP filter that excludes applicants without step scores) however with the increase in applications per spot I doubt that will happen.Yea and this assuming PD's will know what a great COMLEX score is...
Or you see their minimum comlex on residency explorer is 600 but their resident’s average comlex score range is 510-560. Then you know they only care about stepYes. I matched to a midwest university program with comlex scores only.
A good amount of programs CAN interpret a comlex score and the AOA has pushed hard to provide tools to PDs to utilize these and in the near future, integrate these into the NRMP. However, just because they CAN interpret them does not mean they prefer it and most programs will be pretty clear on their websites. Another way to assess is to utilize the FRIEDA tool to determine percentage of DO's. The larger the percent of the class, the more likely there are a few in there that did not take USMLE.
Yes especially if they had step cutoffs but it still wasn't a hard "don't apply here". The only time that was the case was if FREIDA stated "usmle required" OR/AND it was stated on their IIM program website explicitly.Or you see their minimum comlex on residency explorer is 600 but their resident’s average comlex score range is 510-560. Then you know they only care about step
Would it be ok to email the program about if they have changed their COMLEX policy as stated on the website/FREIDA? Usually program don't update their website until during the application cycle.Yes especially if they had step cutoffs but it still wasn't a hard "don't apply here". The only time that was the case was if FREIDA stated "usmle required" OR/AND it was stated on their IIM program website explicitly.
It's worth it if it's not clear and you are wanting to apply there.Would it be ok to email the program about if they have changed their COMLEX policy as stated on the website/FREIDA? Usually program don't update their website until during the application cycle.
Why wouldn't you take USMLE? It is far better than not taking...just IMOHi I was just curious if anyone has matched into academic IM programs with just COMLEX scores. I already took both but was just curious.
I might have asked this before, but is there a list of programs with tiers and/or if they accept COMLEX or not? Wondering if there's any existing data out thereReally depends on the program but many low tier academic places will accept comlex as well as some of the mid tiers. top tiers forget it lol
Frieda but its all incorrect. You really have to reach out to the program coordinators and askI might have asked this before, but is there a list of programs with tiers and/or if they accept COMLEX or not? Wondering if there's any existing data out there