Any latinos accepted?

[Sooz]

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I meant to finish the sentence with, "of any importance?" my mistake

So you don't feel that the world wide slave trade was of any importance?
(I'm sure you do-- and I know that's not what you meant) 😉

But I also think that people (especially the younger ones) be informed of the history of slavery. I have met many younger people (especially African Americans) that have somehow gotten the notion that slavery was all because of America. Not that slavery was already in practice throughout much of the world and unfortunately ended up being practiced in America as well. I mean for them to understand the scope of slavery, including U.S. slavery, they should know more history about it. Not just limit themselves to thinking (incorrectly) that slavery (originally) was because of America, I think to do so only helps carry unneeded animosity to future generations.

 

[Sooz]

Except for the fact that I've been awake nearly 30 hours and not a bit tired is a little odd. I hope that once it finally wares off I won't be dead because I have a lab practical exam and another exam for an unrelated class. Hopefully I'll be able to function still. 😉

30 hours, no chance for me currently (I'm too out of shape) I would be asleep at the wheel 😉 Good luck on your exams though! 🙂

 

[willow18]

Its so annoying when people try to demonstrate the necessities of the entire population by quoting extreme circumstances like professional athlete statistics.

I obviously am not comparing the two in acutality. I was just trying to illustrate a point by showing an extreme. Much like the cartoon posted in the early posts of the thread that implies that all whites are cheaters and get in via cronyism and how dare we blame the innocent minority. There's a big difference of course between sports and medicine.

And on the point that the NBA is private vs. medical schools that are federal; we can argue how private the NBA is, but the thread is debating the morality of AA, not its legality.

 

[LadyJubilee8_18]

So you don't feel that the world wide slave trade was of any importance?
(I'm sure you do)

But I also think that people (especially the younger ones) be informed of the history of slavery. I have met many younger people (especially African Americans) that have somehow gotten the notion that slavery was all because of America. Not that slavery was already in practice throughout much of the world and unfortunately ended up being practiced in America as well. I mean for them to understand the scope of slavery, including U.S. slavery, they should know more history about it. Not just limit themselves to thinking (incorrectly) that slavery (originally) was because of America, I think to do so only helps carry unneeded animosity to future generations.

Ok, I was arguing that only the institution of slavery in the US is relevant to our discussion because we are talking about an issue that effects Americans. I understand that it is historically important that slavery happened around the world.

 

[efex101]

Out of 16,648 matriculants for 2004 *only* 1,175 where Hispanic. This really puts into perspective the small number of Hispanics that are actually matriculating and the applicant numbers are pretty low as well. Here is the data http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/20020304detmat.htm

 

[efex101]

Great book for *anyone* applying regardless of gender/race/ethnicity


https://services.aamc.org/Publicati...1&cftoken=7302E7C4-FB4D-41AD-BEC17A8544E3B23A

 

[efex101]

Free facts and figures pdf file that I was not able to open but you can request copy sent to you for free. https://services.aamc.org/Publicati...1&cftoken=7302E7C4-FB4D-41AD-BEC17A8544E3B23A

 

[Rafael Cavalcan]

I'm latino but in the AAMC application I marked myself as non-URM. Do I still get advantages in the admissions process? or none at all?

 

[medhacker]

I'm latino but in the AAMC application I marked myself as non-URM. Do I still get advantages in the admissions process? or none at all?

There are no special advantages. You will be interesting to Med schools in terms of recruiting.

 

[MegG]

Out of 16,648 matriculants for 2004 *only* 1,175 where Hispanic. This really puts into perspective the small number of Hispanics that are actually matriculating and the applicant numbers are pretty low as well. Here is the data http://www.aamc.org/data/facts/2004/20020304detmat.htm

Neat, I did some calculations 🙂 ...Of course these same numbers are probably already figure somewhere else, but I like math anyway 🙂

Race % of matriculated of total % of US population
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hispanic/Lat. 7.05% 14.1%
African American 6.76% 12.8%
Asian 18.77% 3.6%
White 66.29% 80.4%

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html

the above site is where i got the pop. figures.
There is of course a few other categories --African American, White and such..but I didn't include any of those cause they were pretty small figures.

Anyway, in case I didn't do a good job of making this table (for lack of better word) I'll use Asian and White as examples.

18.77% of the marticulated students are Asian and Asian people make up 3.6% of the U.S. population. 66.29% of the marticulated students are White and White people make up 80.4% of the U.S. population.

 

[medhacker]

Interesting numbers MegG, thanks

 

[MegG]

Interesting numbers MegG, thanks

You bet! 🙂

Sorry that the table looks so crummy..I tried to make it easier to read but just don't know how 🙁

 

[indo]

once again...the native americans are left out. great.

 

[MegG]

once again...the native americans are left out. great.

No they aren't, look at the site. I simply didn't list them because I only took the 4 largest groups, no other reason. If you are curious do the smaller numbers I didn't do 🙂

Edit

I decided to do the Native Amercians for Indo

Native American 1.105% marticulated 1% of US population

 

[Sooz]

Interesting numbers MegG, thanks

Interesting indeed! 👍

 

[bubbleyum]

i think most medical schools are under pressure to recruit a "diverse" pool of applicants, which means they will make a concerted effort to look at the african-american & hispanic/latino applicants with a little bit more of a forgiving interest, even if they don't apply as URM. i don't consider myself a racist, but i can't help wondering when i see profiles on mdapplicants that have sub-par gpas and 26-27 mcats that are getting interviews at places like columbia, cornell, u michigan, u chicago etc. these are people who are not URM but state themselves as african-american & hispanic or mexican american... and they don't seem to have any other exceptional extra curriculars going for them either. i don't know.

no i am not white; i am korean-american. and on another note, i wonder why they lump all "asian-americans" and indian-americans together in one racial category all the time? to myself and all other chinese/korean/japanese friends i know, we are two distinctly different groups from all aspects. maybe if they didn't lump us all together we wouldn't be considered such an "over represented" minority group!

 

[catalystman]

i think most medical schools are under pressure to recruit a "diverse" pool of applicants, which means they will make a concerted effort to look at the african-american & hispanic/latino applicants with a little bit more of a forgiving interest, even if they don't apply as URM. i don't consider myself a racist, but i can't help wondering when i see profiles on mdapplicants that have sub-par gpas and 26-27 mcats that are getting interviews at places like columbia, cornell, u michigan, u chicago etc. these are people who are not URM but state themselves as african-american & hispanic or mexican american... and they don't seem to have any other exceptional extra curriculars going for them either. i don't know.

no i am not white; i am korean-american. and on another note, i wonder why they lump all "asian-americans" and indian-americans together in one racial category all the time? to myself and all other chinese/korean/japanese friends i know, we are two distinctly different groups from all aspects. maybe if they didn't lump us all together we wouldn't be considered such an "over represented" minority group!

post the profiles! I want to see 😱

With regards to ORM all asian groups are over-rep

 

[LAZYGUY]

The picture is easy to misconstrue. Much easier is to be born on the top of the mountain and yell at the man at the bottom who found a step to climb on "Stop cheating"!

Such act is an universal inmoral act against humanity!

CHECKMATE!

 

[Uncle_Tbag]

post the profiles! I want to see 😱

With regards to ORM all asian groups are over-rep

Go to MDapplicants, look at a top 50 school, look for unusually low mcat/gpa matriculants. More often than not these are URMs.

 

[catalystman]

Go to MDapplicants, look at a top 50 school, look for unusually low mcat/gpa matriculants. More often than not these are URMs.

I have looked and for every URM with "bad stats" there is a non-urm similar stats who was accepted(at least on MDapps) IMHO...

 

[medhacker]

I have looked and for every URM with "bad stats" there is a non-urm similar stats who was accepted(at least on MDapps) IMHO...

Indeed!...makes you wonder

 

[Sooz]

I have looked and for every URM with "bad stats" there is a non-urm similar stats who was accepted(at least on MDapps) IMHO...

In your own words, "post the profiles! I want to see". 😱

 

[LadyJubilee8_18]

Neat, I did some calculations 🙂 ...Of course these same numbers are probably already figure somewhere else, but I like math anyway 🙂

Race % of matriculated of total % of US population
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hispanic/Lat. 7.05% 14.1%
African American 6.76% 12.8%
Asian 18.77% 3.6%
White 66.29% 80.4%

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0762156.html

the above site is where i got the pop. figures.
There is of course a few other categories --African American, White and such..but I didn't include any of those cause they were pretty small figures.

Anyway, in case I didn't do a good job of making this table (for lack of better word) I'll use Asian and White as examples.

18.77% of the marticulated students are Asian and Asian people make up 3.6% of the U.S. population. 66.29% of the marticulated students are White and White people make up 80.4% of the U.S. population.

wait, 14.1+12.8+3.6= 30.5. White people can't be 80.4% of the population. And those numbers only consider Asians, Hispanics, and African Americans. There are lots of "others" around. Maybe this number considers "White including Hispanics and Arabs" The percentage of Whites not of Hispanic decent (possibly including Arabs) from the census data is 67.1%. so 66.29% of the matriculated students are White not of Hispanic decent and 67.1% of the US population is White not of Hispanic decent. That is about even, unlike the URM stats.

BTW I posted these same numbers a page ago!

 

[Sooz]

wait, 14.1+12.8+3.6= 30.5. White people can't be 80.4% of the population. And those numbers only consider Asians, Hispanics, and African Americans. There are lots of "others" around. Maybe this number considers "White including Hispanics and Arabs" The percentage of Whites not of Hispanic decent (possibly including Arabs) from the census data is 67.1%. so 66.29% of the matriculated students are White not of Hispanic decent and 67.1% of the US population is White not of Hispanic decent. That is about even, unlike the URM stats.

BTW I posted these same numbers a page ago!

If I understand you right, your question is answered on the population page from that provided link (if you even looked at it). It states, "NOTE: Percentages do not add up to 100% due to rounding, and because Hispanics may be of any race and are therefore counted under more than one category". I would imagine the original poster didn't realize that little disclaimer either. Considering those numbers though it would then indicate that the population of Hispanic/Latino's may be even higher than what is reported, so they would indeed be (by far) the most URM in regards to med. school. Is that what you were trying to get at? Also, a link of where you gathered your census data might be useful. 🙂 That site lists it's information was gathered from the US census bureau, I looked at the US bureau and it lists the exact same numbers.

 

[LadyJubilee8_18]

In your own words, "post the profiles! I want to see". 😱

http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=1349
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=239
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=3036
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=204
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=2629
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=1930

Looks like URMs arent the only ones who can get in with lower scores. The point is, medschools accept people with a wide range of scores. Don't assume that only URMs get in with relatively low GPAs and MCAT scores

 

[LadyJubilee8_18]

If I understand you right, your question is answered on the population page from that provided link (if you even looked at it). It states, "NOTE: Percentages do not add up to 100% due to rounding, and because Hispanics may be of any race and are therefore counted under more than one category". I would imagine the original poster didn't realize that little disclaimer either. Considering those numbers though it would then indicate that the population of Hispanic/Latino's may be even higher than what is reported, so they would indeed be (by far) the most URM in regards to med. school. Is that what you were trying to get at? Also, a link of where you gathered your census data might be useful. 🙂 I looked at the US census bereau and it lists the exact same numbers as listed on that linked site. 😕

Just go to Google and look up "Census Quick Facts" it tells you the percentage of those individuals who are "White not of Hispanic decent." If you go through the whole thing, you can separate them all out. It's pretty obvious that the percentage of the population that med schools consider "white" can not be 80.4% of the total US population. Yes, I was getting at the fact that Hispanics and Blacks are the most under represented. The reason why I took issue with Meg's numbers is because she was clearly trying to show that Whites were also under represented in medicine. Since "Hispanic" is an ethnicity and not a race, her number (80.4%) included Hispanic people as well. This percentage was misleading considering our argument.

 

[WhatUpDoc!]

If I understand you right, your question is answered on the population page from that provided link (if you even looked at it). It states, "NOTE: Percentages do not add up to 100% due to rounding, and because Hispanics may be of any race and are therefore counted under more than one category". I would imagine the original poster didn't realize that little disclaimer either. Considering those numbers though it would then indicate that the population of Hispanic/Latino's may be even higher than what is reported, so they would indeed be (by far) the most URM in regards to med. school. Is that what you were trying to get at? Also, a link of where you gathered your census data might be useful. 🙂 That site lists it's information was gathered from the US census bureau, I looked at the US bureau and it lists the exact same numbers.

https://services.aamc.org/Publicati...1&cftoken=7302E7C4-FB4D-41AD-BEC17A8544E3B23A

Click... Read... become enlightened 👍

 

[Sooz]

http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=1349
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=239
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=3036
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=204
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=2629
http://www.mdapplicants.com/viewprofile.php?id=1930

Looks like URMs arent the only ones who can get in with lower scores. The point is, medschools accept people with a wide range of scores. Don't assume that only URMs get in with relatively low GPAs and MCAT scores

I wasn't asking you to post links, I can go look for myself. The person I replied to stated that "I have looked and for every URM with "bad stats" there is a non-urm similar stats who was accepted". I just found it hard to believe that this person actually took the time to look through EVERY profile on MDapps. to verify that EVERY URM with "bad stats" had a non-URM with similar stats accepted. 😉 Of course I don't believe much of what's on MDapps. anyway, so I don't really care. It was a somewhat sarcastic remark to him for making such a bold statemnt. Which is why I used his exact quote when I asked HIM to provide links. Sorry you didn't get the sarcasm in it.

 

[bubbleyum]

what i was saying that i see non-URM african americans & hispanic/latino applicants getting interviews at ELITE med schools this year, even without the URM status and lower gpas and mcat scores(like around 27.)

i don't know about previous years because this is the first year i am applying. these are just some of the mdapplicant profiles i've come across while surfing the threads. i don't know if they're even going to get accepted because it's still early in the cycle, but i see that they are at least getting interviews at such schools and i can't help wondering about the reason. i didn't mean that other caucasian/asian ppl never got into any schools at all with sub-par numbers.

although i do remember once seeing somebody's profile who got into harvard with a 24 mcat score or something. he was a california resident and african american. not sure if he was applying URM. THAT was kind of surprising. i guess it happens.

i'm not going to post any profiles because that would make those ppl applying this year feel attacked, looked down upon and discouraged. you can browse around for yourself if u are that interested.

 

[Sooz]

https://services.aamc.org/Publicati...1&cftoken=7302E7C4-FB4D-41AD-BEC17A8544E3B23A

Click... Read... become enlightened 👍

I've read it thanks, but feel free to read it again yourself if you like 🙂

 

[Sooz]

what i was saying that i see non-URM african americans & hispanic/latino applicants getting interviews at ELITE med schools this year, even without the URM status and lower gpas and mcat scores(like around 27.)

i don't know about previous years because this is the first year i am applying. these are just some of the mdapplicant profiles i've come across while surfing the threads. i don't know if they're even going to get accepted because it's still early in the cycle, but i see that they are at least getting interviews at such schools and i can't help wondering about the reason. i didn't mean that other caucasian/asian ppl never got into any schools at all with sub-par numbers.

although i do remember once seeing somebody's profile who got into harvard with a 24 mcat score or something. he was a california resident and african american. not sure if he was applying URM. THAT was kind of surprising. i guess it happens.

i'm not going to post any profiles because that would make those ppl applying this year feel attacked, looked down upon and discouraged. you can browse around for yourself if u are that interested.

Well first, I think mdapplicants is a bad source for information because to the best of my knowledge those people can list pretty much any stats they want. Second, for what your saying one would have to look at it on a school by school basis, not the way other posters have said, which involves just general acceptance somewhere. But also realize, that even if all of those numbers in all of those profiles were correct, it's not just numbers that get people in (regardless of race) 🙂

 

[WhatUpDoc!]

I've read it thanks, but feel free to read it again yourself if you like 🙂

Oh... I'm sorry then, just thought your earlier post said something about looking for census bureau statistics and the like. I thought the AAMC facts and figures did a pretty good job of breaking everything down, but since you already read it, don't mind me 🙄

 

[LadyJubilee8_18]

I've read it thanks, but feel free to read it again yourself if you like 🙂

Why do you resort to such snobbery? You did ask me for details because you apparently didn't believe my statistics, and now that you have details you write it off as "old information." Well if you already know all the facts and figures and you still don't understand the reason for AA then no one on this thread can help you, but feel free to read the thread again yourself if you'd like. 🙂

 

[Sooz]

Just go to Google and look up "Census Quick Facts" it tells you the percentage of those individuals who are "White not of Hispanic decent." If you go through the whole thing, you can separate them all out. It's pretty obvious that the percentage of the population that med schools consider "white" can not be 80.4% of the total US population. Yes, I was getting at the fact that Hispanics and Blacks are the most under represented. The reason why I took issue with Meg's numbers is because she was clearly trying to show that Whites were also under represented in medicine. Since "Hispanic" is an ethnicity and not a race, her number (80.4%) included Hispanic people as well. This percentage was misleading considering our argument.

Wow, I guess you see what you want, I really didn't see her numbers saying anything of the sort. I think she just listed them and was trying to offer (what she thought) would be some useful information. Anyway, you seem to be saying that only about 60% of the US population is white then? I'm not sure I understand. That 80.4% number had nothing to do with medical school, it was just the % of population that the US Census has calculated to be white. I find it hard to believe that there could be 20% deviation in that number. But perhaps we aren't talking about the same thing here, like I said, I'm somewhat confused on how your using the numbers (or perhaps it's wording). But I see no reason to do a google, the numbers Meg used are the same numbers that the US Census offers on their site.

 

[WhatUpDoc!]

although i do remember once seeing somebody's profile who got into harvard with a 24 mcat score or something. he was a california resident and african american. not sure if he was applying URM.

Just for some clarification: You don't have a decision in whether or not you can apply URM. If you are a URM, then you will be considered as such. Don't get that confused with applying as a disadvantaged applicant. You DO have a choice with whether or not you want to be considered in the disadvantaged status (regardless of color). Just thought I'd clear that up for people

 

[WhatUpDoc!]

Wow, I guess you see what you want, I really didn't see her numbers saying anything of the sort.

I guess I see what I want too... because I thought the same exact thing as LadyJubilee in regards to MegG's post

 

[Sooz]

Why do you resort to such snobbery? You did ask me for details because you apparently didn't believe my statistics, and now that you have details you write it off as "old information." Well if you already know all the facts and figures and you still don't understand the reason for AA then no one on this thread can help you, but feel free to read the thread again yourself if you'd like. 🙂

Yes, my post was a tad snobby, why would he assume that I haven't read that literature? I even think I've made refrence to that exact literature in another post on these boards. Anyway, I don't claim to know all the facts and figures, and not once have I said that I disagree with AA nor do I believe that I fail to "understand the reason for AA". Again, you seem to see only what you want.

 

[Sooz]

I guess I see what I want too... because I thought the same exact thing as LadyJubilee in regards to MegG's post

Yes, the US Census is out to undermine AA 🙄

 

[LadyJubilee8_18]

Wow, I guess you see what you want, I really didn't see her numbers saying anything of the sort. I think she just listed them and was trying to offer (what she thought) would be some useful information. Anyway, you seem to be saying that only about 60% of the US population is white then? I'm not sure I understand. That 80.4% number had nothing to do with medical school, it was just the % of population that the US Census has calculated to be white. I find it hard to believe that there could be 20% deviation in that number. But perhaps we aren't talking about the same thing here, like I said, I'm somewhat confused on how your using the numbers (or perhaps it's wording). But I see no reason to do a google, the numbers Meg used are the same numbers that the US Census offers on their site.

Ok, why don't I say it again to make sure you understand:

1. Hispanic is an ethnicity--NOT A RACE. For example: My boyfriend is Mexican and on his birth certificate, it says he is White.

2. 80.4% of the population may be white, but that percentage considers White and of Hispanic decent.

3. People who are White and of Hispanic decent are considered Hispanic by the system of Affirmative Action and are URMs.

4. To say that 80.4% of the US population is White while only about 66% of the medical school matriculates are White is FARSE because the 66% does not include those who are of Hispanic decent.

5. In actuality 67.1% of the US population is White NOT OF HISPANIC DECENT and around 66% of the medical school matriculates are white NOT OF HISPANIC DECENT. This gives a more accurate picture of what is going on.

Do you understand now? Should I post it again?

 

[WhatUpDoc!]

Yes, the US Census is out to undermine AA 🙄

Well now I didn't say all that, but I do know one thing. The US Census bureau is not deciding who does and who doesn't get to go to medical school. The AAMC is, and there number (for %of Whites) is the same number (~67%) LabyJubilee is using in her calculations.

 

[Sooz]

Oh... I'm sorry then, just thought your earlier post said something about looking for census bureau statistics and the like. I thought the AAMC facts and figures did a pretty good job of breaking everything down, but since you already read it, don't mind me 🙄

It does do a good job, and I really enjoyed reading it. All of the pie graphs were very informative and forthwith. I don't recall however seeing US Census information (but it's been awhile since I looked at it), which is what I was looking for. Perhaps it is in there, but I figured the US Census site would be just as easy.

And I am sorry I came of "snobby" but I found it somewhat insulting that you assumed I didn't read it. Just as you and Lady saw Megs post in one way, well I saw you making that assumption that I didn't read it because I am white. So of course I was a tad annoyed. Anyway, I did enjoy reading it.

 

[Sooz]

Ok, why don't I say it again to make sure you understand:

1. Hispanic is an ethnicity--NOT A RACE. For example: My boyfriend is Mexican and on his birth certificate, it says he is White.

2. 80.4% of the population may be white, but that percentage considers White and of Hispanic decent.

3. People who are White and of Hispanic decent are considered Hispanic by the system of Affirmative Action and are URMs.

4. To say that 80.4% of the US population is White while only about 66% of the medical school matriculates are White is FARSE because the 66% does not include those who are of Hispanic decent.

5. In actuality 67.1% of the US population is White NOT OF HISPANIC DECENT and around 66% of the medical school matriculates are white NOT OF HISPANIC DECENT. This gives a more accurate picture of what is going on.

Do you understand now? Should I post it again?

I think you should post it again, it might further inflate your superiority complex.

 

[MegG]

Just go to Google and look up "Census Quick Facts" it tells you the percentage of those individuals who are "White not of Hispanic decent." If you go through the whole thing, you can separate them all out. It's pretty obvious that the percentage of the population that med schools consider "white" can not be 80.4% of the total US population. Yes, I was getting at the fact that Hispanics and Blacks are the most under represented. The reason why I took issue with Meg's numbers is because she was clearly trying to show that Whites were also under represented in medicine. Since "Hispanic" is an ethnicity and not a race, her number (80.4%) included Hispanic people as well. This percentage was misleading considering our argument.

I wasnt tyring to show any race underrepresented. How rude of you to jump to that, you dont even know me. I thought I was helping. Jerk

 

[MegG]

https://services.aamc.org/Publicati...1&cftoken=7302E7C4-FB4D-41AD-BEC17A8544E3B23A

Click... Read... become enlightened 👍

thanks you for posting this link, i think i've heard of it before it looks like a good book and i will definitely read it 🙂

 

[MegG]

I guess I see what I want too... because I thought the same exact thing as LadyJubilee in regards to MegG's post

i was trying to be helpful, you are a jerk to.

 

[Uncle_Tbag]

I have looked and for every URM with "bad stats" there is a non-urm similar stats who was accepted(at least on MDapps) IMHO...

So if you look at population and applicant percentages overall and compare it to URM %, I believe it would indicate URM status does give under-performers an advantage. If 20% of applicants to XYZ University are URM, yet 50% of the matriculated under-achievers are URM, that should tell us something.

 

[LadyJubilee8_18]

I wasnt tyring to show any race underrepresented. How rude of you to jump to that, you dont even know me. I thought I was helping. Jerk

18.77% of the marticulated students are Asian and Asian people make up 3.6% of the U.S. population.

Conclusion: Asian people are over represented in medicine about five fold.

66.29% of the marticulated students are White and White people make up 80.4% of the U.S. population.

(misleading) Conclusion: White people are underrepresented by about 20%
You did use these examples to conclude your post, right?

 

[MegG]

Conclusion: Asian people are over represented in medicine about five fold.



(misleading) Conclusion: White people are underrepresented by about 20%
You did use these examples to conclude your post, right?

Yes I thought I was doing it right, if I wasnt I'm sorry, but it doesn't give you the right to accuse me of anything. Perhaps next time instead of jumping to conclusions you could jsut explain how it should be figured. Jerk

My boyfirend for most of high school was black, I met his dad and he was a really big jerk that liked to jump to conclusions like you, i bet your just like his dad. How sad


--see its not fun when people jump to conclusions about you is it

 

[WhatUpDoc!]

i was trying to be helpful, you are a jerk to.

If I'm not mistaken, serveral posts back you accused me of immature posting. Well, after this insult, I think you take the crown for immaturity 🙄

 

[MegG]

If I'm not mistaken, serveral posts back you accused me of immature posting. Well, after this insult, I think you take the crown for immaturity 🙄

You still are immature, and I think have an attitude towards white people to boot. I was only trying to be helpful with my post but you and missknowit all, whatever her name is, both jumped to the conclusion that I was actualyl trying to manipulate numbers to make one race look different than they are. Next time I won't bother trying to help, jerk. There was no reason at all anyone (racists excluded) should have thought I had some alterior motive other than trying to just help by putting numbers up, which I thought I was figureing correctly. Instead of insuiating something about me perhaps next time an explanation to me of what I did wrong would work better, but no..you didn't think of that, you instead found it easier to make accusations.