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[geneticclone]

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^^^ I guess its not for all of us, is it? 😀

BTW Pakbabydoll, why wouldn't you ask an Uncle for support? Hope thats not a personal question.

For me, the only reason I wouldn't ask my Uncle is because I like to be self-sufficient, and I really hate feeling like I owe anyone anything. I'm not proud, but I just feel like I should be responsible for myself... maybe thats the way you see it.

Oh, marrying a rich woman...ya thats kinda shameful. Really, even worse than a gold-digger IMHO.

Look I dont care about a girls beauty. All i care about is her deen.....i mean dinero.

 

[Ahmad007]

Perhaps it is not for you jess. But hey, look at it this way, you'll always al Maghrib's mp3-based classes and "deen intensive" Summer camps. 😀

I also don't find anything wrong with marrying a rich woman, or into a rich family, but I said that half-heartedly. In reality, I will be paying for med school in cash. 👍

I think I'll get married at the end of year 2.

 

[Jess8000]

So i guess we can discuss a lil politics here, I'm not really a fan of Ahmedinejad, but regardless of how i feel about him, I do have some respect for the guy, subhanallah he is the only current leader comin to mind that gives dawah to the West,
anyways, did u guys see how the president of columbia bashed him in person when ahmedinejad spoke there this week, subhanallah it was sad, it gives columbia univ and the united states such a bad reputation on how it treated its guests...what a bad move by the president of columbia univ...

That was pretty shameful on Lee Bollinger (UCol Pres). Like you said, he was saying such rude stuff directly to his face. You invite someone to speak then call him "uneducated" in his introduction. WTH?!

In time students will look back and think wow, our univ president is really really low. It shows his heart, really. I read up on it and they weren't even letting Ahm answer the questions however he wanted. They were really rude the whole time. I'm sure students will see through it.

And this was Columbia-- not some redneck state where everyones kid is in the war and they REALLY are uneducated.

"They hate us for our freedom!" This line always makes me laugh.

 

[Jess8000]

Perhaps it is not for you jess. But hey, look at it this way, you'll always al Maghrib's mp3-based classes and "deen intensive" Summer camps. 😀

I also don't find anything wrong with marrying a rich woman, or into a rich family, but I said that half-heartedly. In reality, I will be paying for med school in cash. 👍

I think I'll get married at the end of year 2.

Its on your intention. If you're marrying for the money, then how can it be seen as respectable. But if she were not so well-off and you'd marry her, then I'd say the head is in the right place.

Come on, take an Al-Maghrib class! What have you got to lose! Its only a couple of weekends like you say! Just give it a shot! 🙂

 

[TexanGirl]

While we're on the subject of marriage, I'm interested in knowing how you guys plan on meeting your future mates. Do you plan on leaving it up to your parents (aka arranged) or will you try to find someone on your own? And if you're finding someone on your own, how do you plan on going about it? An ad in the newspaper? Online matrimonial services? 😀

Come on, I know we're all thinking about it!

 

[Jess8000]

While we're on the subject of marriage, I'm interested in knowing how you guys plan on meeting your future mates. Do you plan on leaving it up to your parents (aka arranged) or will you try to find someone on your own? And if you're finding someone on your own, how do you plan on going about it? An ad in the newspaper? Online matrimonial services? 😀

Come on, I know we're all thinking about it!

Not even close to thinking about it yet. Really couldn't care less right now. I'd have to flip a coin if someone were to ask me 😀

If you ask my friend, he'll say "God have mercy on the foolish girl who ends up marrying me."

 

[pakbabydoll]

BTW Pakbabydoll, why wouldn't you ask an Uncle for support? Hope thats not a personal question.

For me, the only reason I wouldn't ask my Uncle is because I like to be self-sufficient, and I really hate feeling like I owe anyone anything. I'm not proud, but I just feel like I should be responsible for myself... maybe thats the way you see it.

Thats part of it I guess, but I think in life we can't get anywhere with out help.
The thing is that my uncle is a Doctor, so well he wants both of his kids to be doctors but for reason he is death set against me going to MD school. I don't know why, he has been in US for 10 years now and when we first moved here, he picked us up at the airport and all the way all he talked about was how badly Muslims were being treated here. He would not even let me shadow him. I have asked him 2 times and he always avoids it. Of course if I put him on the spot in front of my mom or something he won't say no but both times I asked him he changed the subject. He was very unsupporting of us moving here too.

I think I'll get married at the end of year 2.

How do you know unless you are already engaged.

While we're on the subject of marriage, I'm interested in knowing how you guys plan on meeting your future mates. Do you plan on leaving it up to your parents (aka arranged) or will you try to find someone on your own? And if you're finding someone on your own, how do you plan on going about it? An ad in the newspaper? Online matrimonial services?

Come on, I know we're all thinking about it!

Good question.

 

[GoldShadow]

While we're on the subject of marriage, I'm interested in knowing how you guys plan on meeting your future mates. Do you plan on leaving it up to your parents (aka arranged) or will you try to find someone on your own? And if you're finding someone on your own, how do you plan on going about it? An ad in the newspaper? Online matrimonial services? 😀

Come on, I know we're all thinking about it!

Haha, I'm hoping it'll be someone I run into/know in real life. (ie not through a newspaper or online!)

 

[Jess8000]

Thats part of it I guess, but I think in life we can't get anywhere with out help.
The thing is that my uncle is a Doctor, so well he wants both of his kids to be doctors but for reason he is death set against me going to MD school. I don't know why, he has been in US for 10 years now and when we first moved here, he picked us up at the airport and all the way all he talked about was how badly Muslims were being treated here. He would not even let me shadow him. I have asked him 2 times and he always avoids it. Of course if I put him on the spot in front of my mom or something he won't say no but both times I asked him he changed the subject. He was very unsupporting of us moving here too.

Thats too bad pakbabydoll. 🙁 We can pick our friends, but its a shame we can't pick our family. I hope it doesn't make you distant from your cousins. Good cousins are a real great thing. I love my cousins a lot.

Well, just try even harder and motivate yourself with the "I'll show him" attitude.

inshaAllah things will work out in a way you least expect it. 🙂

 

[geneticclone]

There must be a reason that he didnt want you to come to the United States. And i probably can guess what it is.

 

[BrownianMotion]

hadith of the day continuation?:

The Prophet said: He who gives food for a fasting person to break his
fast, he will receive the same reward as him, except that nothing will
be reduced from the fasting persons reward." [Ahmad, at-Tirmidhee, Ibn
Maajah, Ibn Hibbaan, Saheeh].

lets hand those dates over to our fasting brothers and sisters when its time for iftar...

 

[pakbabydoll]

There must be a reason that he didnt want you to come to the United States. And i probably can guess what it is.

oh and what do you think the REASON is?

Well, just try even harder and motivate yourself with the "I'll show him" attitude.

lol thanks Jess thats what I am going for! 😀

 

[delight]

hey Muslim here going for pharmacy though.. i posted a thread about Muslims in that section and got jumped by some weirdos on these boards... but now its going good ...hehe
and it looks like there are only 2 muslims in pharmacy on this whole board....

 

[delight]

So i guess we can discuss a lil politics here, I'm not really a fan of Ahmedinejad, but regardless of how i feel about him, I do have some respect for the guy, subhanallah he is the only current leader comin to mind that gives dawah to the West,
anyways, did u guys see how the president of columbia bashed him in person when ahmedinejad spoke there this week, subhanallah it was sad, it gives columbia univ and the united states such a bad reputation on how it treated its guests...what a bad move by the president of columbia univ...

the columbia university pres never heard of disagreeing respectfully...he showd he got no manners....im proud of Ahmedinejad-

 

[delight]

-Thanks, Chaeymay! Btw, you have a gorgeous picture! Are you persian? I always thought Persians (and Afghanis) were the most beautiful Muslim women.

-> I am from Pakistan, to those curious

u r defiantly misssing out on the most beauttiiffulllll paki women then!!!!....

 

[Ahmad007]

oh and what do you think the REASON is?

lol thanks Jess thats what I am going for! 😀

I think he did not want you to come to America because he knew you would use words like 'atomatically' to describe our "connection" to the Universe (which you think is pretty cool).

Anyway, you seem to have a lot of problems with people in your life. Uncle is trying to sabotage your career, your other uncle is a Wahabi, your dad is trying to sabotage your social life, your labmate and professor are trying to sabotage your bio grade, and ...😴

You will either end up a very successful or a very miserable premed. Or maybe both.

 

[cyclingmo]

Anyway, you seem to have a lot of problems with people in your life. Uncle is trying to sabotage your career, your other uncle is a Wahabi, your dad is trying to sabotage your social life, your labmate and professor are trying to sabotage your bio grade, and ...😴

You will either end up a very successful or a very miserable premed. Or maybe both.

I'm sorry, that just made me laugh out really loud! No offense, just hilarious.

 

[cyclingmo]

the columbia university pres never heard of disagreeing respectfully...he showd he got no manners....im proud of Ahmedinejad-

Yeah, i'm proud of my boy too.

Also, why can US, who is already a developed nation, have reactors and prevent developing nations who need these reactors oh so badly from getting them? And don't say because of the treath of producing warheads, because today the regulation agencies are doing a fine job of keeping a tab on everything.

 

[pakbabydoll]

I think he did not want you to come to America because he knew you would use words like 'atomatically' to describe our "connection" to the Universe (which you think is pretty cool).

Anyway, you seem to have a lot of problems with people in your life. Uncle is trying to sabotage your career, your other uncle is a Wahabi, your dad is trying to sabotage your social life, your labmate and professor are trying to sabotage your bio grade, and ...

You will either end up a very successful or a very miserable premed. Or maybe both.

For your information I have a 98 in my biology class and a 96 in my biology lab so far. 😀
Did I not say that in the end we are all Muslim. It was you guys all fighting over Sunni, Shia, Wahabi I just said my uncle is a wahabi so stop hating on them. Not to mention we are talking about the same uncle here.
The lab incident was in my chemistry class and since I stopped helping her I have been getting 100's or well 96 on the last one on my lab reports and she has been getting C's.
Oh and I took that quote exactly out of the show called Universe on Discovery. I think it was called big bang and beyond or something. I might have spelled "atomatically" wrong though. You guys can probably tell I can't spell a thing.🙁

 

[pakbabydoll]

hey Muslim here going for pharmacy though.. i posted a thread about Muslims in that section and got jumped by some weirdos on these boards... but now its going good ...hehe
and it looks like there are only 2 muslims in pharmacy on this whole board....

I work at a Pharmacy 😛

 

[Jess8000]

I think he did not want you to come to America because he knew you would use words like 'atomatically' to describe our "connection" to the Universe (which you think is pretty cool).

Anyway, you seem to have a lot of problems with people in your life. Uncle is trying to sabotage your career, your other uncle is a Wahabi, your dad is trying to sabotage your social life, your labmate and professor are trying to sabotage your bio grade, and ...😴

You will either end up a very successful or a very miserable premed. Or maybe both.

For God's sake Ahmad if you were serious, you need to chill out. If you can't say anything good, please be silent.

I'm glad pakbabydoll didn't get too offended.

You need to give some things a rest. I think you really can't get over the Wahabi stuff. Time to permanently change the subject.

BTW, way to go with the grades pakbabydoll. What grade are you in?

 

[pakbabydoll]

BTW, way to go with the grades pakbabydoll. What grade are you in?

Thanks Jess, and I am a freshmen.

 

[Jess8000]

Thanks Jess, and I am a freshmen.

Cool. I hope you don't experience the 10-15% GPA drop that everyone does, inshaAllah.

 

[Ahmad007]

For God's sake Ahmad if you were serious, you need to chill out. If you can't say anything good, please be silent.

I'm glad pakbabydoll didn't get too offended.

You need to give some things a rest. I think you really can't get over the Wahabi stuff. Time to permanently change the subject.

BTW, way to go with the grades pakbabydoll. What grade are you in?

Instead of encouraging her behavior, why don't you make an attempt tell her why its wrong to backbite and slander her own family on an online forum during Ramadan? Or atleast stop impeding others from doing so. We are Muslim so we have different standards of etiquette and akhlaaq. I didn't mention anything about wahabis besides her saying that her uncle is one, which I mistakingly thought was an insult (no offense man, I know you are one, but in general). I wasn't serious, but merely trying to tell relay all of the things she had said about her family in a few pages of posts in a serious yet jestful manner (as Condi would say a carrot and stick approach)

 

[Ahmad007]

Yeah, i'm proud of my boy too.

Also, why can US, who is already a developed nation, have reactors and prevent developing nations who need these reactors oh so badly from getting them? And don't say because of the treath of producing warheads, because today the regulation agencies are doing a fine job of keeping a tab on everything.

Every interview Ahmadinejad has had with an American, he has been embarassed as a head of state. This wasn't the first time, and I don't think there were any surprises. The Iranian policy makers use him and his good nature, to make Americans seem like complete bullies to the international audience. He gets more popular the more he is disrespected while maintaining the calm, respectful, and humble stature of a populist hero. When Fox news says mockingly that women are free in Iran, or some fashion analyst makes fun of him for his "bargain world" clothing the entire rest of the world eats that up on behalf of Iran. On the other hand, I got mixed feelings about his speech. I thought his intro and closing statements were well put together, and the part of his speech that he drew about Jews in Iran having representation and the heart-warming story about Iraq and the MEK, but there were places where he could have easily grand slammed the audience's perception. Holocaust, Jews, terrorism, progressiveness in Iranian religion, etc. were all things that the West love. He shouldn't get defensive and try to expose America's actions or mention conspiracy, but should have answered them in what he believes. Because remarkably, on all those issues, I think if he just answered them truthfully with how he felt and Iranians felt, much of what the Bush administration and Bollinger banked on him of would be inconsequential because the Iranian position and the American position are in agreement. It only makes the crazies more convinced, and gives momentum to the AIPAC/pro-Israeli smear engineers, if he doesn't directly answer the question because they'll take it as dodging the question because he truly is a terrorist, and not because that is how you culturally answer questions as a Persian.

 

[geneticclone]

I had the wrong idea about pakis uncle. Sorry Paki.

 

[Jess8000]

Instead of encouraging her behavior, why don't you make an attempt tell her why its wrong to backbite and slander her own family on an online forum during Ramadan? Or atleast stop impeding others from doing so. We are Muslim so we have different standards of etiquette and akhlaaq. I didn't mention anything about wahabis besides her saying that her uncle is one, which I mistakingly thought was an insult (no offense man, I know you are one, but in general). I wasn't serious, but merely trying to tell relay all of the things she had said about her family in a few pages of posts in a serious yet jestful manner (as Condi would say a carrot and stick approach)

I dont agree on you about what I bolded... We don't even know her family. At all. Ever asked a sheikh a question along the lines... "my husband does xyz"? The person is irrelevant. Its what needs to be addressed that is relevant. If this was the case, a Muslim should never complain about their situation to anyone. And in no way was my previous comment encouraging slander/ backbiting. The ultimate idea was "I'm sorry for your position, just do your best to overcome it."

I didn't see the humor in your post, so maybe I got a bit roiled up for no reason. Sorry that I misunderstood it.

I'm not trying to start something b/w us, so sorry if my comments have been a bit rude. I'm not looking for trouble.

 

[Jess8000]

Paki i hope you dont get too offended sis, but i believe the reason your uncle didnt want you to come to the United States was because he was afraid you would lose your deen. Honestly, you have somewhat. You believe Hijab is optional, you believe in some quack theory about Adam and Eve. Once again, im sorry if i was a bit out of place...

What theory is this?

We only take whats in the Quran and (authentic) Hadith.

As for Hijab... This is what our Creator says:

O Prophet! Tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to draw their cloaks (veils) all over their bodies. That will be better, that they should be known (as free respectable women) so as not to be annoyed. And Allâh is Ever Oft­Forgiving, Most Merciful. [Ahzab:59].

Suratul-Ahzab and Suratun-Nur are all about this issue. We don't make the rules. We just follow them.

 

[pakbabydoll]

ok I should not talking about my uncle here 🙁....
anyway CHANGE OF SUBJECT!!!
Does anyway know when EID is? I hope its Saturday...

 

[geneticclone]

ok I should not talking about my uncle here 🙁....
anyway CHANGE OF SUBJECT!!!
Does anyway know when EID is? I hope its Saturday...

I think its in the middle of the week?

 

[pakbabydoll]

I think its in the middle of the week?

I don't think so, its either friday or saturday. If its on a friday then I'll have to go to class in my paki clothes 🙂 but I took saturday off for EID!

 

[Jess8000]

I think it'll be a Saturday-- thats what my Ramadan Timetable is showing me. But I don't want to talk about Eid-- it reminds me that Ramadan is about to leave.

 

[pakbabydoll]

yea but I get to wear my new Pakistani dress on EID .... It is so pretty! I even have hina to go with it all

 

[geneticclone]

I think its either on thursday friday or saturday all of which are fine with me 😀

 

[Dukhtar]

Yeah, i'm proud of my boy too.

Also, why can US, who is already a developed nation, have reactors and prevent developing nations who need these reactors oh so badly from getting them? And don't say because of the treath of producing warheads, because today the regulation agencies are doing a fine job of keeping a tab on everything.

rouge state...

 

[geneticclone]

rouge state...

??? Iran???

 

[sehyr]

salaam,

uh, you guys, i think talking about politicians is definitely backbiting. if i say so and so did this or is that, regardless of who it is, and me saying it has no bearing on any outcome to fix the situation whatsoever, its backbiting. the definition from what i understand of the hadith is anything that if you said to their face (and no, it doesn't stop there -- everyone always says well i'd say it to their face) they would not like.

also, i actually became more religious (or more conscious and wanting to seek Allah i should say) when i came to the U.S. interestingly enough when i was abroad, i kinda couldn't differentiate myself between other folk in any way and i just started thinking, well everyone i see who looks like me is acting this way, my family does this or that (not consciously of course but subconsciously). for example, if i saw some girl wearing something cute but wasn't exactly very islamic (and its not like there they go all out and disregard, but they're pushing the limits), i would start thinking maybe i could tweek my outfits a little. i started wearing hijab during my college years when i really started thinking of who i want to be. i mean now al-Hamdulillah i know that this is who i want to be, but it still comes into play with certain fashions and things. and of course in no way am i saying anything about those who wear hijab versus those who don't, those who have 6 inch beards versus those who don't. like i mentioned before, taqwa is a hard thing to spot, because some of these same people who should be very deeny sometimes can be very acidic and negligent when dealing with others; and of course it goes both ways.

lastly, on the topic of marriage, i am curious to know this myself. the whole thing just seems rather confusing to me i guess. not to get personal or anything, but i've never been understood (people are really stigma-happy) and want to put you in a category right off the bat.

k, sorry for the long post and didn't mean to offend anyone nor was i saying anything directed to anyone's post.

 

[geneticclone]

salaam,

uh, you guys, i think talking about politicians is definitely backbiting. if i say so and so did this or is that, regardless of who it is, and me saying it has no bearing on any outcome to fix the situation whatsoever, its backbiting. the definition from what i understand of the hadith is anything that if you said to their face (and no, it doesn't stop there -- everyone always says well i'd say it to their face) they would not like.

also, i actually became more religious (or more conscious and wanting to seek Allah i should say) when i came to the U.S. interestingly enough when i was abroad, i kinda couldn't differentiate myself between other folk in any way and i just started thinking, well everyone i see who looks like me is acting this way, my family does this or that (not consciously of course but subconsciously). for example, if i saw some girl wearing something cute but wasn't exactly very islamic (and its not like there they go all out and disregard, but they're pushing the limits), i would start thinking maybe i could tweek my outfits a little. i started wearing hijab during my college years when i really started thinking of who i want to be. i mean now al-Hamdulillah i know that this is who i want to be, but it still comes into play with certain fashions and things. and of course in no way am i saying anything about those who wear hijab versus those who don't, those who have 6 inch beards versus those who don't. like i mentioned before, taqwa is a hard thing to spot, because some of these same people who should be very deeny sometimes can be very acidic and negligent when dealing with others; and of course it goes both ways.

lastly, on the topic of marriage, i am curious to know this myself. the whole thing just seems rather confusing to me i guess. not to get personal or anything, but i've never been understood (people are really stigma-happy) and want to put you in a category right off the bat.

k, sorry for the long post and didn't mean to offend anyone nor was i saying anything directed to anyone's post.

Hey sehyr i dont understand how talking about politicians is backbiting. I mean your not necesarily insulting the politicians.

 

[woodhorse22]

Asalam U Alaikum. I know there are probably some desis here who are already in medical school or seeking admission. Some of my uncles have a thing against osteopathic medicine (DO). Some of them don't even consider DOs as real doctors. They say that MDs are the only doctors. Is this a common thing in indian/pakistani culture? Honestly I wouldn't mind doing osteopathic medicine. I know people who have gone to the Caribbean to do their MD degree when they weren't able to get in a US MD school. What is your opinion on this? Are there any desis seeking admisison to a DO school? THANKS

 

[geneticclone]

Asalam U Alaikum. I know there are probably some desis here who are already in medical school or seeking admission. Some of my uncles have a thing against osteopathic medicine (DO). Some of them don't even consider DOs as real doctors. They say that MDs are the only doctors. Is this a common thing in indian/pakistani culture? Honestly I wouldn't mind doing osteopathic medicine. I know people who have gone to the Caribbean to do their MD degree when they weren't able to get in a US MD school. What is your opinion on this? Are there any desis seeking admisison to a DO school? THANKS

Who cares what they think? Unless you are becoming a doctor due to family pressure?

 

[EM84]

Asalam U Alaikum. I know there are probably some desis here who are already in medical school or seeking admission. Some of my uncles have a thing against osteopathic medicine (DO). Some of them don't even consider DOs as real doctors. They say that MDs are the only doctors. Is this a common thing in indian/pakistani culture? Honestly I wouldn't mind doing osteopathic medicine. I know people who have gone to the Caribbean to do their MD degree when they weren't able to get in a US MD school. What is your opinion on this? Are there any desis seeking admisison to a DO school? THANKS

Yea, their opinion has nothing to do with "facts." It's simply another one of those petty biases that plague desi communities. If you wish to practice medicine and DO is the path of least resistance to that particular goal than by all means you should go for it.

 

[sehyr]

i wrote this whole post and my computer froze. bleh.

hey geneticclone,

if someone isn't saying anything bad about a politician or not insulting them, then you're right, its not backbiting. but sometimes (i used to do this too and really work to hold my tongue) is say something about a politician indirectly. so for example, say you have a politician that i feel is perpetuating propaganda to make it seems like he cares about Islam when clearly he doesn't based on his the way he acts VERSUS his policies. maybe its both, but i can't say oh he's just a hypocrite and point out his character or the way he handles himself. i can disagree with his policies. and sometimes i don't like a polician's character or i think they're intellectually challenged, and i'm thinking, hey, this is no secret, but still, i can't say that because i'm backbiting. clearly, i've named the person and i'm saying something that if i said to their face, they wouldn't like.

i know that there is a fine line that you have to draw and say okay, here i am just talking about how i don't agree with this politician's actions or policies, but if i start saying something about someone's character then i think it is backbiting. anyways, what i was taught in school is that as goes with anything, if telling someone is not actually changing anything, or you are not in an oppressed state yourself and try to elicit help or cause change, then you are going into backbiting.

again, this is the way i've come to think of it over the years. and please nobody ask what school i went to... i actually tried different things and heard bad things about everything, no matter what i tried. i have found that in everything there is some truth and some falsehood or things that i think i need to check, and islam is about moderation and intentions. i basically try to look at things holistically and put in them in the light of the sunnah and the quran, and that's about it. if i see something that conflicts, i ignore it and try to take the good from what anyone is saying.

i am a really simple person (and i'm not saying that as a good or bad thing); i want to simplify my deen as much as possible as well. if the path to God is straight, i personally don't want to be taking detours.

like the one i just took in answering this question. 😎

 

[geneticclone]

i wrote this whole post and my computer froze. bleh.

hey geneticclone,

if someone isn't saying anything bad about a politician or not insulting them, then you're right, its not backbiting. but sometimes (i used to do this too and really work to hold my tongue) is say something about a politician indirectly. so for example, say you have a politician that i feel is perpetuating propaganda to make it seems like he cares about Islam when clearly he doesn't based on his the way he acts VERSUS his policies. maybe its both, but i can't say oh he's just a hypocrite and point out his character or the way he handles himself. i can disagree with his policies. and sometimes i don't like a polician's character or i think they're intellectually challenged, and i'm thinking, hey, this is no secret, but still, i can't say that because i'm backbiting. clearly, i've named the person and i'm saying something that if i said to their face, they wouldn't like.

i know that there is a fine line that you have to draw and say okay, here i am just talking about how i don't agree with this politician's actions or policies, but if i start saying something about someone's character then i think it is backbiting. anyways, what i was taught in school is that as goes with anything, if telling someone is not actually changing anything, or you are not in an oppressed state yourself and try to elicit help or cause change, then you are going into backbiting.

again, this is the way i've come to think of it over the years. and please nobody ask what school i went to... i actually tried different things and heard bad things about everything, no matter what i tried. i have found that in everything there is some truth and some falsehood or things that i think i need to check, and islam is about moderation and intentions. i basically try to look at things holistically and put in them in the light of the sunnah and the quran, and that's about it. if i see something that conflicts, i ignore it and try to take the good from what anyone is saying.

i am a really simple person (and i'm not saying that as a good or bad thing); i want to simplify my deen as much as possible as well. if the path to God is straight, i personally don't want to be taking detours.

like the one i just took in answering this question. 😎

ummmmmm ok?

 

[Jess8000]

ummmmmm ok?

From what I understanded that post to mean.... pretty much the main idea is its fine to discuss or hate the action/belief, but not the person. See what can be done about situation, but don't bash the one who holds those views.

ex) I really hate shirk (associating partners with God) and discuss with my peers how different actions may constitute shirk , but I don't go out and say how perverted my non-Muslim friends are.

At least, this was my understanding of sehyr's post.

Oh, BTW, I totally agree... Islam is easy!! 😀 😀

The Prophet (SAW) said, "Religion is very easy and whoever overburdens himself in his religion will not be able to continue in that way. So you should not be extremists, but try to be near to perfection and receive the good tidings that you will be rewarded; and gain strength by worshipping in the mornings, the nights." [Bukhari]

 

[Jess8000]

Asalam U Alaikum. I know there are probably some desis here who are already in medical school or seeking admission. Some of my uncles have a thing against osteopathic medicine (DO). Some of them don't even consider DOs as real doctors. They say that MDs are the only doctors. Is this a common thing in indian/pakistani culture? Honestly I wouldn't mind doing osteopathic medicine. I know people who have gone to the Caribbean to do their MD degree when they weren't able to get in a US MD school. What is your opinion on this? Are there any desis seeking admisison to a DO school? THANKS

walaikum assalam warahmatullahi wa barakathuhu,

I think its common in Desi culture from the previous generations. Our generation does not think like this. My Aunt said she knows people who actually prefer to see a DO because they like the philosophy better. Don't worry about it-- critics are everywhere so just DO/do your own thing.

Personally I discourage going to the Carb's, because your options will be very limited for the rest of North America--in Canada you're pretty much out of the game as an IMG.

I have cousins who are MD doctors and they strongly encouraged me to apply to DO. I'm not going to only because I know no DO's to write me a LOR. Also, if I ever decide to practice in Canada (its also a great place to live), DO's can't do anything except family medicine.

inshaAllah it'll all roll out nicely.

 

[sehyr]

ummmmmm ok?

...?

yeah, Jess8000 got what i was saying.

 

[geneticclone]

...?

yeah, Jess8000 got what i was saying.

I got what you were saying and i agree with you to an extent.

 

[sehyr]

I got what you were saying and i agree with you to an extent.

okay yeah, sorry for making it convoluted.

 

[pakbabydoll]

Asalam U Alaikum. I know there are probably some desis here who are already in medical school or seeking admission. Some of my uncles have a thing against osteopathic medicine (DO). Some of them don't even consider DOs as real doctors. They say that MDs are the only doctors. Is this a common thing in indian/pakistani culture? Honestly I wouldn't mind doing osteopathic medicine. I know people who have gone to the Caribbean to do their MD degree when they weren't able to get in a US MD school. What is your opinion on this? Are there any desis seeking admisison to a DO school? THANKS

I get what your saying. My parents will never forgive me if I went to a DO school. They don't consider DO's "physicians"
Anyway if I don't get in any where here in US in three tries then I am just gonna go to Pakistan and get MBBS and then come back here and take that test.
Inshallah I am hoping that ones I apply I'll get in to one school.

 

[Ahmad007]

I got what you were saying and i agree with you to an extent.

I read it, but I had no idea what sehyr was talking about.

You can criticize any politician you want in Islam about anything whether you are telling your father something, typing it on a message board, or having it printed as an editorial in a newspaper.