Any negative thoughts on being a cheif resident?

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inmyslumber

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Hi all.

In 2004 there was a question about being a chief resident in Anesthesia. There was a great posting at that time by UTSouthwestern that was mostly positive regarding the position. Anyone have any regrets about their time as cheif resident? Thanks. 🙂
 
Hi all.

In 2004 there was a question about being a chief resident in Anesthesia. There was a great posting at that time by UTSouthwestern that was mostly positive regarding the position. Anyone have any regrets about their time as cheif resident? Thanks. 🙂

Hahahaha
 

hey chief, stop playing COD4 and focus on.. .blah blah blah.



totally unrelated to the topic, but with regards to Vent's signature, i missed Dinosaur Jr. in a small venue last month due to scheduling conflicts. actually, most of my life is a scheduling conflict. 😎
 
I get the impression from my Chief residents that all they do is cover call for people that drop the ball. Doesn't sound all that great to me...
 
I think it helped me when I did it. It improves your leadership skills and helps you learn how to deal effectively with slackers and other problems. It usually comes with spots on different departmental committees so that you get to see things from a different perspective and can be in on the groudfloor of some of the decision making that will affect you and your resident colleagues. I also think it gives you a little bit of an edge in the job search. With call schedules, you also have the inside track to tailoring it to best fit your schedule (you should alsways be fair though). Avoid playing favorites and settle conflicts fairly. Lead by example and earn the respect of your colleagues and faculty and it will be a good year for you.

All of that being said, you will work a lot harder than your non chief colleagues and will not get a dime extra for it (maybe some programs give a little pay bump, I don't know).

If I had it to do over again, I would do it.
 
I get the impression from my Chief residents that all they do is cover call for people that drop the ball. Doesn't sound all that great to me...

You mean people forget they have call? Or don't show up?

Chief 'round these parts looks like a bare minimum of extra work (a couple extra meetings and scheduling, mostly) but then again I can't think of a single instance in the last 2.5 years when anyone just flaked on a call day, so our chiefs don't really have any babysitting duties.

I guess what I'm asking here is, are there really residents out there who no-show their call days, and actually avoid getting fired?
 
Yes there are residents that don't show up for one reason or another. Some are legitimate and some are BS.

http://forums.studentdoctor.net/showthread.php?t=180747

Interesting question that I haven't seen posted before. Guess I can reveal this information now that I am five months away from finishing.

Chief resident:

Job description: Leader, innovator, scheduler, full time pinch hitter, administrative assistant, human juggling act, counselor, mother/father, brother/sister, bastard/bitc*, and enforcer.

Benefits: Nice ribbon on your resume. Jobs come looking for you. Almost automatic interview when they know you are chief. Automatic fellowship placement if you go that route. Faculty appointment if you so desire.

Detractors: Time, TIME, T I M E. You spend at least 2-3 hours each day answering pages and e-mails, putting out small fires, hunting down wayward residents, sitting on important but numerous committee meetings, planning schedules two months in advance, planning out the yearly schedule at the beginning of the year which you will then change at least three dozen times due to maternity/paternity leave, poor resident performance, family tragedies, personality conflicts, etc. Someone doesn't show up for any reason then you are there to take their place. Educational planning meetings, residency review committees, multispecialty chief residents' conferences, residents' meetings, etc. are all part of your year. You spend more time being chief than reading for the most part and if you are married with kids, you aren't going to be a very good spouse/parent for that year.

Many of you have asked me how and why I respond so quickly to questions and the answer is easy: I am always on the computer checking e-mail and charting out schedules for multiple clinical sites at nine different hospitals.

The job hunt becomes a lot easier, however, and I had people contacting me as well as myself initiating contact. California, Arizona, Washington state, Oregon, and Texas were my acceptable destinations and I interviewed at more than a dozen sites including some who had previously published that they were not hiring this year. One friend of mine is still not talking to me after she found out I interviewed and was offered by a group that she had been trying to get into since before she started residency. Some groups even stated flatly to me that they only hire chief residents for their groups (a little pompous and shortsighted in my opinion, but whatever floats your boat).

So does it help? Definitely. Should you campaign to get the position? Hell no. Every resident should work with the diligence and enthusiasm that would make them candidates for the position, but what will separate you from the pack is your willingness to go the extra mile and help your fellow residents and program whenever there is a need and even when there isn't a need. Recognition comes through merit and service, not backstabbing, politicking, or machinations. I have seen a couple of people in other residencies do the latter and claim the position but all that does is create a chief resident without the ability or backing of the residents to lead.

I always wanted to help and do extra work because I loved the extra opportunities to gain experience and even just watch other people in action to learn their secrets. You can also separate yourself from the pack by being lazy, showing up late, not being prepared, and having a me first/the world is against me attitude. YOU CANNOT JUST TURN OFF LAZINESS AND SUDDENLY BECOME AN ACHIEVER. You slack off early in your residency and not only does it become hard to deviate from your wayward path, but it is also hard to shake off the label of lazy/stupid/dangerous resident.

For our institution, the residents and faculty each vote and the top two vote getters become chief, although the chairman holds veto power if he feels a candidate isn't academically well positioned to handle the spot or for any reason he feels a person should be disqualified from holding the position.

Would I do it again?


Yes I would. It's been the most taxing year of my life trying to be a full time spouse, father, chief, clinical resident, and job seeker, but if this experience coupled with an already deep educational residency hasn't prepared me for what lies ahead, I don't know what else could.
 
As UTSW post reflects, being a chief is a lot of extra work (it takes the right personality to be effective). But, for myself, being a chief really helped with the fellowship search (was offered a spot at every interview I went on; n of 1- just kidding). There is a lot of "behind-the-scenes" stuff (at least 5 extra hours per week) that many of your non-chief residents are not aware of-But, would I do it again? Absolutely...
 
Thanks for the input so far, everyone. I suppose my program has had our share of great and not-so-great chief residents. The great ones being the most fair towards other residents regarding schedules and holidays.

It seems like a lot of time and headache but most chiefs I have spoken to say they would do it again (at least, that is what they say after the chief year is over).

I still would like to hear from any chiefs (current and former) that would NOT do it again! I am 60/40 in whether to put my name on the ballot for Chief.

-Inmyslumber 😴

P.S. Calling out on an On-call Day is unprofessional and it's a shame some folks don't realize (or care) how unfair it is to others.
 
I think a massive factor in how great or $hitty your life would be as the Chief is highly dependent upon your PD. If he/she is supportive & willing to teach you the ropes of personnel management, it could a worthwhile experience. However, if your PD has 2 personalities - one pleasant & the other a bug-eyed, red-faced demon - or likes to micromanage &/or treat all residents as children with limited intellectual capacity -then being the Chief would be tantamount to a year-long self-torture session.

So, look beyond the ability to pretty-up the CV to appreciate that others in the mix will greatly influence your life as the Chiefy-Wiefy.
 
I probably spend about 10-15 hours extra a week doing "chief" work. Most of my time is spent making call schedules. the rest is spent being on committees, confronting section heads about resident issues. Sometimes i feel like a Senator, respected and allowed to know info others are not, and then sometimes i feel like a babysitter, having to translate and filter the whining into something substantial for the administration ( i never go in to take peoples calls when the flake).

Would do it again, but i am sure as time went on i would have less people who liked me as both the other residents and the administration can get on your nerves after enough meetings where nothing gets done/solved.
 
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