Any OMFS residents members of FACS?

[DrTacoElf]

Wondering if anyone is FACS member and if it has any benefit for us....
From AAOMS newsletter


The Board received a report on the October 26, 2011 meeting with the leadership of the American College of Surgeons (ACS) to discuss the creation of an OMS Section. The ACS representatives at the meeting agreed that an OMS Section should be established and that the membership process for oral and maxillofacial surgeons should be simplified and parallel the process required of other surgeons. The OMS Section will function similarly to the ACS Advisory Councils, and OMS residents with a medical degree can join the ACS resident organization. Following the report, the AAOMS Board agreed that OMSs who are fellows of the ACS will be permitted to use the FACS designation behind their degrees


http://www.facs.org/memberservices/resident.html

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Members don't see this ad.

 

[armorshell]

I'm an ACS member, and the program director at my program is FACS but I doubt there are any resident-level FACS out there.

 

[Mohab]

Following the report, the AAOMS Board agreed that OMSs who are fellows of the ACS will be permitted to use the FACS designation behind their degrees

Were they not permitted to use the FACS before this?

As far as I can tell, until OMS residents get the MD, we can only join as medical students.

 

[uva09]

Yes a dual degree Oral Surgeon can become a fellow. A resident cannot become a fellow.

You have to go through a different process as an Oral Surgeon.

http://www.facs.org/memberservices/waiver.html

 

[Machiavelliansm]

noob question but whats the point of getting FACS?

 

[uva09]

The importance and value of attaining fellowship status in an American Medical College is probably fairly subjective and up to the needs and goals of the individual provider. It's difficult to achieve fellowship status and an honor to have the designation. I'm sure most physicians would like to become a fellow in their respective college. Some doctors will refer based upon whether a specialist has a designation like FACS. For certain specialties like plastic surgery having the designation FACS may be used from a marketing standpoint to differentiate the qualifications of various surgeons in order to lure potential clients.

"FACS after a surgeon's name mean that the surgeon's education and training, professional qualifications, surgical competence, and ethical conduct have passed a rigorous evaluation, and have been found to be consistent with the high standards established and demanded by the College"

 

[uva09]

I should add that it probably depends on what you plan to do with your OMS training. There is a growing number of OMS professionals that upon completion of a dual degree program will then complete additional training (residency/fellowship) in medical specialties like Plastic Surgery, Cosmetic Surgery, Otolaryngology, etc. The FACS designation, coupled with multiple board certifications, is probably more valuable in this setting and OMS providers are often marketing themselves as Physician first, Dentist second (i.e. Dr. John White, MD, DDS, FACS instead of Dr. John White, DDS, MD). The relative importance of FACS probably has something to do with how much 'medicine' you aim to incorporate in your scope of practice. And if you do a quick Google search, you will find a number of OMS trained doctors that operate almost exclusively within the medical community - some as full body plastic surgeons, for example.

 

[McKnightRider]

I should add that it probably depends on what you plan to do with your OMS training. There is a growing number of OMS professionals that upon completion of a dual degree program will then complete additional training (residency/fellowship) in medical specialties like Plastic Surgery, Cosmetic Surgery, Otolaryngology, etc. The FACS designation, coupled with multiple board certifications, is probably more valuable in this setting and OMS providers are often marketing themselves as Physician first, Dentist second (i.e. Dr. John White, MD, DDS, FACS instead of Dr. John White, DDS, MD). The relative importance of FACS probably has something to do with how much 'medicine' you aim to incorporate in your scope of practice. And if you do a quick Google search, you will find a number of OMS trained doctors that operate almost exclusively within the medical community - some as full body plastic surgeons, for example.

The OP is in a 6 year OS program and you're telling him about trends in the field as a dental student?

What exactly is your experience w OS? What year are you? Did you match this year and now think you're an expert

 

[uva09]

Yikes - two separate posts attacking my contributions. I'm sorry, was something incorrect? Do you have something constructive to add? Your trivial obsession over SDN member statuses is most comical when you haven't been verified as a legitimate dentist. OMS resident or not, the OP could have searched the FACS webpage to discover that residents cannot become fellows. I linked the procedure in place for OMS students/professionals. And I provided some information on why the designation may be helpful. This information is all readily accessible to anyone with an internet connection - and even more so for someone affiliated with a dental school or hospital with relevant, credentialed providers. But please lecture me with diaphanous banter based upon my forum status - something anyone can manipulate. For all you know, I could be a practicing dentist with a decade of experience. Yawn...

 

[McKnightRider]

Yikes - two separate posts attacking my contributions. I'm sorry, was something incorrect? Do you have something constructive to add? Your trivial obsession over SDN member statuses is most comical when you haven't been verified as a legitimate dentist. OMS resident or not, the OP could have searched the FACS webpage to discover that residents cannot become fellows. I linked the procedure in place for OMS students/professionals. And I provided some information on why the designation may be helpful. This information is all readily accessible to anyone with an internet connection - and even more so for someone affiliated with a dental school or hospital with relevant, credentialed providers. But please lecture me with diaphanous banter based upon my forum status - something anyone can manipulate. For all you know, I could be a practicing dentist with a decade of experience. Yawn...

But you're not ...you're a d2 w google

 

[uva09]

Still nothing constructive to add, eh?

A D2? Even your presumptuous math is off.

Clearly an unverified "Dentist" from India where all you need is a bachelors degree from some Acme college is most qualified to comment on American dental forums, right?

 

[dent2015]

The OP is in a 6 year OS program and you're telling him about trends in the field as a dental student?

What exactly is your experience w OS? What year are you? Did you match this year and now think you're an expert

ya dude, take a chill pill. who cares if uva is a highschool gunner, not even in undergrad yet. If he/she knows what they're talking about, and provides useful, explanatory information - who gives a F what letters they have after their name....

 

[McKnightRider]

ya dude, take a chill pill. who cares if uva is a highschool gunner, not even in undergrad yet. If he/she knows what they're talking about, and provides useful, explanatory information - who gives a F what letters they have after their name....

This forum is for post graduate residents...it says so right under the forum title

The OP wasnt looking for a dental student who googled FACS for an opinion, I'm sure he did that before posting.

Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you have to share it. Feel free to read the forum and threads but don't post on here like you have some insight omfs residents dont have access too.

There's no need for this forum to be over run with Internet experts like the pre dent area

 

[uva09]

What's the secret passcode??

Perhaps you should apply to become a forum administrator so that you can police who posts where. Do you have nothing better to do with your time? The entire premise of these forums is to share information. And you still have yet to object to any of the information I shared - let alone provide any useful contributions of your own.

You are correct, oh wise one - this sub-forum is outlined to discuss topics regarding practicing dentists and/or residents. In case you haven't noticed, responses and threads are regularly littered with pre-dental students, dental students, dentists, and other SDN members. The only way someone can certify their status is by having their account verified by SDN - something you have yet to do, interestingly enough. You could be a high school student. And judging by the maturity and depth of your responses, I would not be surprised if you are a teenager.

"Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you have to share it. Feel free to read the forum and threads but don't post on here like you have some insight omfs residents dont have access too."

This is interesting. One would think an intelligent, problem-solving OMS resident would have plenty of resources to consult (fellow residents, program advisors, practicing physicians, other healthcare professionals, dental school faculty, alumni, etc.) to not have to consult an online forum in the first place, but I digress...

If you want truly vetted information filtered to only credentialed, experienced professionals - don't go to an online forum community in the first place. Talk to a real person(s). Is this not painfully obvious?

 

[JDIZNEY]

This forum is for post graduate residents...it says so right under the forum title

The OP wasnt looking for a dental student who googled FACS for an opinion, I'm sure he did that before posting.

Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you have to share it. Feel free to read the forum and threads but don't post on here like you have some insight omfs residents dont have access too.

There's no need for this forum to be over run with Internet experts like the pre dent area

Easy there little fella. How much Haterade did you drink today?

 

[GTFOOMICT]

An additional non-tangible benefit is a seat at the table of the ACS. Likewise benefit for oral surgeons to be Fellows of American College of Dentistry, Implants, etc. Stick your head in everyone's business.

That could mean nothing to you or everything. Could mean nothing to the profession or everything.

Besides, some of the Grey's Anatomy doctors have it. You can impress all the pre-med wannabes who derive their knowledge from Grey's.

 

[McKnightRider]

What's the secret passcode??

Perhaps you should apply to become a forum administrator so that you can police who posts where. Do you have nothing better to do with your time? The entire premise of these forums is to share information. And you still have yet to object to any of the information I shared - let alone provide any useful contributions of your own.

You are correct, oh wise one - this sub-forum is outlined to discuss topics regarding practicing dentists and/or residents. In case you haven't noticed, responses and threads are regularly littered with pre-dental students, dental students, dentists, and other SDN members. The only way someone can certify their status is by having their account verified by SDN - something you have yet to do, interestingly enough. You could be a high school student. And judging by the maturity and depth of your responses, I would not be surprised if you are a teenager.

"Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you have to share it. Feel free to read the forum and threads but don't post on here like you have some insight omfs residents dont have access too."

This is interesting. One would think an intelligent, problem-solving OMS resident would have plenty of resources to consult (fellow residents, program advisors, practicing physicians, other healthcare professionals, dental school faculty, alumni, etc.) to not have to consult an online forum in the first place, but I digress...

If you want truly vetted information filtered to only credentialed, experienced professionals - don't go to an online forum community in the first place. Talk to a real person(s). Is this not painfully obvious?

I just read your old posts and you seem to get into a fight in nearly all of your threads...so in probably just playing into your troll games

My point is that if you are not a resident you shouldn't regularly he posting in this forum. SDN was a tremendous resource for me as a predent, dental student, and in choosing a residency...but more and more presents have been posting out of place.

Just be judicious in your postings from now on. Respect that people in this particular forum have more experience than you, and if you do actually have something no one has presented or that a resident doesn't have that at least present yourself as an outsider.

It's about respect.

 

[GTFOOMICT]

A bunch of internet bullies.

Leave the indian alone.

Leave the pre-dent alone.

 

[uva09]

I just read your old posts and you seem to get into a fight in nearly all of your threads...so in probably just playing into your troll games

My point is that if you are not a resident you shouldn't regularly he posting in this forum. SDN was a tremendous resource for me as a predent, dental student, and in choosing a residency...but more and more presents have been posting out of place.

Just be judicious in your postings from now on. Respect that people in this particular forum have more experience than you, and if you do actually have something no one has presented or that a resident doesn't have that at least present yourself as an outsider.

It's about respect.

Ironic that you speak of respect when you demonstrated absolutely none - and instigated juvenile conflict. My posts were extremely judicious. You opened with unwarranted, inflammatory, and condescending language. It seems quite apparent that you are in need of the lesson here.

Again, get credentialed on SDN if you want to advertise yourself as a Dentist and question the experience and credibility of others...

https://help.studentdoctor.net/entries/465337-doctor-verification

If you don't like what someone has to say, ignore it, or offer alternatives. Act like an adult. You have absolutely zero authority to question or dictate who posts where. I have less than a dozen comments in this sub-forum and I am in no way obligated to present myself as an "outsider" - whatever that means. I should hope you display a bit more maturity and sensibility in your real-life, professional dealings.

It's pretty simple.

 

[DavesNotHere]

More fighting...tsk tsk

 

[PartyROC]

More fighting...tsk tsk

Starting to look like the three ring circus that is the predent thread

A password wouldn't be the worst idea