Any people who wanted MD, go DO? What was your rationale/are you happy?

[bloodandguts]

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Reasons I wanted MD
-Better residency chances.
-I think manipulations are fake.
-Stats to get in are higher, therefore a lot of people assume you are smarter (even if it isn't the case!)

Reasons I'd Go DO
-I like DO's I've interacted with more.
-I like they also believe in prevention of further problem, and put effort into it.
-1 less year my loans will be accumulating debt.
-I'll get to be a doctor faster, which was always my goal, rather than waste a year of my life restudying for the MCAT when I could be spending that year in the future as a doctor. Life is short.
-Much cheaper to apply, can only really afford to apply DO, nothing left over for MD so I wouldn't be able to apply broadly at all for MD.
-Better chances of getting in. Plus I volunteered a ton, and I'm passionate about it, and DO schools care more about that than a test score.

I'd have to wait until next year to apply to up my MCAT, and I don't want to wait a whole year to restudy for a standardized test when I could be learning medicine. But I don't want my chances of having the freedom to choose my specialty lessened. But I might spend that whole year studying, still not get into MD, and would have wasted a year.

Advice? Personal experience? Thanks.

 

[Doctoblast]

Plenty of people go into specialties as a DO. What are you particularly interested in? With the merger, all residencies are supposed to be equal by 2020.

It seems like you would have no problem being a DO, so why wait? Basically, think of it like this: If you go DO, you will save 1 year of your youth plus ~$200,000 in salary money. You have to ask yourself what those two letters are worth to you.

Again, choosing a specialty is all on you. YOU have to get good grades and good board scores - not your school. Every school will give you the resources to do so.


^^^ Literally, every sentence above has been said in various threads by others on SDN regarding DO vs. MD.

 

[bloodandguts]

I think I'm going to do it. I hate the idea of restudying for the MCAT and spending thousands of dollars and a year of my life just to get different letters. I like hearing advice 1st hand.

I am just very adamant on being free to shape my path. I currently want to be an ER doc, a pathologist, oncologist (IM then) or a psychiatrist.

I've been told that as long as my test scores are good, I'll be good but I sometimes wonder if people are just telling me what I want to hear. That when it comes to get a residency, all the MD's with my same scores will get the EM or IM residencies I want and I'll be stuck being a GP or a something I absolutely don't want to do.

 

[s5260205]

Have you even got into a DO school yet? Worry about these things when you have an acceptance in hand.

 

[bloodandguts]

Have you even got into a DO school yet? Worry about these things when you have an acceptance in hand.

Seems like a bad idea to worry about whether or not you want to go DO after spending all the money to apply. I'm not rich enough to make decisions like this without thinking them through thoroughly. I want to be 1oo% committed when I do, not only so I can be genuine in interviews but so that I won't change my mind, and have wasted the money.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

Just shadow some DOs in the fields you are interested in. The proof of their existence should be enough to convince you that you will be fine with either route.

 

[MedNation907]

Stats/EC's?

 

[bloodandguts]

Well, I can't 100% guess how this semester will end.


Worst case : 3.69 GPA with a 3.21 sGPA
Higher sGPA for MD, but DO's don't count math classes. Including math it is worst case 3.3

27 MCAT
200 hours volunteering clinical, 150+ community service, 300 hours research experience no publications.

If I do decide to apply DO, I'm considering 20 schools with no MD apps. Basically, I am only going to apply to one or the other. Costs t0o much two split it and doesn't give me enough to apply broadly to either one.

If I waited a year, I'd be gunning for the new equivalent of 32+ on MCAT, 200 more volunteer hours, and possibly a publication to up my MD chances. Still no guarantees and a whole year . . .

 

[xBODOMx]

Stats/EC's?

This. We'll be able to help you more with this information.


Edit:

Yeah, apply DO. Your GPA is actually more of an issue for MD than your MCAT. Your ECs seem a little weak as well. Apply broadly with DO and you'll be fine.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

I had better stats than you and I decided to go full steam ahead with DO. Worked out pretty well for me. I agree, splitting the app to some MD and some DO is costly. But I will say there is some regret for not at least applying to my state MD school though. $150 extra now would have saved me 100K later IF I had gotten in.

 

[xBODOMx]

I had better stats than you and I decided to go full steam ahead with DO. Worked out pretty well for me. I agree, splitting the app to some MD and some DO is costly. But I will say there is some regret for not at least applying to my state MD school though. $150 extra now would have saved me 100K later IF I had gotten in.

Yeah, you might as well apply to your state school(s), but I think adding anymore will be a waste of money.

 

[bloodandguts]

Do you think 15 apps can get someone with my stats in, or should I go 20? I'd maybe apply to two state schools MD if I had the money left from those 5 schools + their potential secondaries.

I don't think I'd mind wasting a little money on two schools, but what I meant is I want to apply broadly to DO if I go DO, not a split. I wouldn't even apply to MD seriously without waiting a year.

 

[JW2020]

Yeah, you might as well apply to your state school(s), but I think adding anymore will be a waste of money.

This also depends on what state you're in. If you're from Cali, for example, gonna pretty hard to get into your state schools with a GPA/sGPA and MCAT that far below the mean

 

[MedNation907]

Well, I can't 100% guess how this semester will end.


Worst case : 3.69 GPA with a 3.21 sGPA
Higher sGPA for MD, but DO's don't count math classes. Including math it is worst case 3.3

27 MCAT
200 hours volunteering clinical, 150+ community service, 300 hours research experience no publications.

If I do decide to apply DO, I'm considering 20 schools with no MD apps. Basically, I am only going to apply to one or the other. Costs t0o much two split it and doesn't give me enough to apply broadly to either one.

If I waited a year, I'd be gunning for the new equivalent of 32+ on MCAT, 200 more volunteer hours, and possibly a publication to up my MD chances. Still no guarantees and a whole year . . .

Smart, and this is what I would do too. I'm OMS-0, so I'll let others tell you about placing into residencies.

I had better stats than you and I decided to go full steam ahead with DO. Worked out pretty well for me. I agree, splitting the app to some MD and some DO is costly. But I will say there is some regret for not at least applying to my state MD school though. $150 extra now would have saved me 100K later IF I had gotten in.

I agree. I should have applied to my state MD schools too. The biggest reason I'd pick MD over DO is the difference in tuition, otherwise I prefer Osteopathic training.

 

[MedNation907]

Do you think 15 apps can get someone with my stats in, or should I go 20? I'd maybe apply to two state schools MD if I had the money left from those 5 schools + their potential secondaries.

15 is good

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

Do you think 15 apps can get someone with my stats in, or should I go 20? I'd maybe apply to two state schools MD if I had the money left from those 5 schools + their potential secondaries.

I don't think I'd mind wasting a little money on two schools, but what I meant is I want to apply broadly to DO if I go DO, not a split. I wouldn't even apply to MD seriously without waiting a year.

I had a GPA slightly below yours and a 28 MCAT and I applied to 10 DO schools. I got secondaries to all 10 and interviews to 6 by the end of October. I cancelled my application at the end of October though since I got into my top school in late September. So I think 10-15 would do you just fine so long as you pick an appropriate mix of high/mid/low tiers. Definitely play to your geographic strengths, I found that the schools that showed me more love earlier tended to be in my region, even with some crappy secondaries.

 

[bloodandguts]

When does one pay for the initial app? When apps open in May? When June 1st comes around? (I am applying earliest as possible).

And around what month do you pay for secondaries?

I am getting a job and living with some family for the next few months to save up some money to finance some of this (but I have some money in savings).

But knowing when to expect to pay what would be great and appreciated!

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And if anyone knows my residency question from earlier, I'd love to know if I'm being told what I wanna hear or if there is a reasonable shot.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

Smart, and this is what I would do too. I'm OMS-0, so I'll let others tell you about placing into residencies.



I agree. I should have applied to my state MD schools too. The biggest reason I'd pick MD over DO is the difference in tuition, otherwise I prefer Osteopathic training.

Yea, I dont really care either way. But the tuition would definitely had been nice. I also like how at DO schools research is not so heavily pushed. At many MD schools it is "required" (either a hard or soft rule). As I understand it research can help out your residency app, but I dont know, I want research on my terms. Not to mention many of the professors at MD schools are "researchers first." I have shared many conversations with the MD students at my work about how they hate their teachers and what a terrible job that they do. Turns out the teachers hate teaching and want to rush through as fast as they can so they can get back to their research. Or worse, they will basically just teach you about crap related to the minutiae of their research. So for me DO felt better. I felt better having my pick of DO schools rather than scratching at a fragment of a chance at a single random MD school.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

When does one pay for the initial app? When apps open in May? When June 1st comes around? (I am applying earliest as possible).

And around what month do you pay for secondaries?

I am getting a job and living with some family for the next few months to save up some money to finance some of this (but I have some money in savings).

But knowing when to expect to pay what would be great and appreciated!

Yea you pay for the primary in June and then you pay for each secondary as they are sent to you - so around July-August. Expect to drop between 50-100 for each secondary. Then plan for a few flights/hotels in September/October/November. Then the deposit comes a bit later. So there are periods of time where the money is dropped in bulk.

Already answered.

Wise move, best to stick with the family as long as you can, those deposits are heavy, especially if you end up having to drop several.

 

[bloodandguts]

You say dropping deposits? Do you have to pay the deposit immediately after being accepted? How long do you have to pay it, usually?

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

You say dropping deposits? Do you have to pay the deposit immediately after being accepted? How long do you have to pay it, usually?

In many cases they are split into two parts. One to grab your seat and one that you put down later to confirm to the college that you will be attending that school. For most schools, if you are accepted before November 15th (something like that?) Then you have until December 20th (something like that haha?) to put down your first deposit - usually somewhere between $500-1500. If you are accepted after november 15th then you usually only have like 2 weeks or something to put a deposit down. So thats the first deposit, it holds your seat. Then the matriculation fee (ie the second deposit) is usually due in April or May and it typically mirrors the first deposit amount. So for instance at the school I will be attending, I put $2000 down in October - $1000 to hold my seat (due by December) and $1000 for my matriculation fee (so I put it in like 9 months in advance).

Some schools do all this business slightly differently though, but thats roughly how it goes.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

And there is another bonus to the MD thing, the deposits are usually about 1/10th of what the DO deposits are - think $100 vs $1000 - so again it doesnt hurt to apply to your state school, even if money is tight.

 

[MedNation907]

I also like how at DO schools research is not so heavily pushed. At many MD schools it is "required" (either a hard or soft rule). As I understand it research can help out your residency app, but I dont know, I want research on my terms. Not to mention many of the professors at MD schools are "researchers first."

I could not agree more. I didn't even get into independent research in UG because it was the least of my interests, and not once did that come up during my interviews. I'll bust out some work in 3rd year to build my app.

When does one pay for the initial app? When apps open in May? When June 1st comes around? (I am applying earliest as possible).

I made sure to have all my work descriptions, EC experiences, and PS written out in word docs before AACOMAS even opened. That made applying much easier because there are so many little things that take time. And I would apply in June, the earlier the better.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

I could not agree more. I didn't even get into independent research in UG because it was the least of my interests, and not once did that come up during my interviews. I'll bust out some work in 3rd year to build my app..

See I have the opposite problem... I had thousands of hours of research in undergrad, and now I have been working for 2 years at a medical school doing research, so another 4 or 5 thousand hours. It has obviously been invaluable to me, but I know without a shadow of a doubt that I am not called to be a researcher. Maybe I will dabble in some clinical stuff that actually interests me, down the road. But I have no interest at all to be this ideal MD "physician scientist" student thing. I am called to be a clinician and thats all there is to it. I understand you can definitely be a clinician at an MD school, just the same as you can be a researcher at a DO school, but the road tend to be a little less research heavy on the DO side of things and I appreciate that fact.

 

[stickshifthonda]

@bloodandguts our apps are very similar stat-wise. I would definitely go DO and don't expect any MD interviews- if you get one think of it as a nice surprise!

I was so thankful to have 3 interviews this cycle; my LECOM acceptance came the day I returned from WVSOM's interview, and LECOM gave 30 days to deposit and WVSOM accepted me 2 weeks later and I had 1.5 months. It was either: Drop $3500 right then and there to hold both spots, or pick the school I'd rather go to at that moment regardless of other interviews that may pop up much later in the cycle. I deposited at one, withdrew the other, and it was the best financial decision I could have made.

 

[bloodandguts]

Did you apply early? And was your decision deadline close to December? How many schools did you apply to? Thanks!

 

[kalat]

@bloodandguts our apps are very similar stat-wise. I would definitely go DO and don't expect any MD interviews- if you get one think of it as a nice surprise!

I was so thankful to have 3 interviews this cycle; my LECOM acceptance came the day I returned from WVSOM's interview, and LECOM gave 30 days to deposit and WVSOM accepted me 2 weeks later and I had 1.5 months. It was either: Drop $3500 right then and there to hold both spots, or pick the school I'd rather go to at that moment regardless of other interviews that may pop up much later in the cycle. I deposited at one, withdrew the other, and it was the best financial decision I could have made.

There's a serious problem with these deposit fees though. MD schools are no different than DO schools as far as people holding out for certain acceptances. It's just part of the process. If you observe that fact then why is it that they are so much more absurdly expensive than MD schools? Less funding, sure, but they're usually making up for this in tuition anyways. Why double dip? It really needs to be regulated just like the time you have to put it down is. After all is said and done a couple more thousand in deposits is really a slap in the face when you're already looking at the debt you're taking on after and you end up having to put down more money up front for an apartment, supplies, transportation, etc. It's way too cost prohibitive.

 

[samac]

Here's the thing. From your post it seems like you would highly prefer MD, so I say go for your dreams.
If you settle you'll never be happy.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

Here's the thing. From your post it seems like you would highly prefer MD, so I say go for your dreams.
If you settle you'll never be happy.

Idk, I dont get that feel terribly much? Seems like his concerns are pretty decent. I mean I was in the same shoes a couple years ago. You dont grow up hearing about DOs much, so its natural to double check stuff. Heck I think its good that he is double checking what it takes to get where he wants to go. And heck even half of the practicing DOs think most of OMT is a sham, so I would defend even that one part of his OP.

But who knows how the OP actually feels.

 

[stickshifthonda]

Did you apply early? And was your decision deadline close to December? How many schools did you apply to? Thanks!

Applied to 21 schools the first day possible for both MD and DO. My decisions came late September/early October. LECOM is a $1500 one time deposit, WVSOM $1000 then $2000 second deposit, which I just couldn't even fathom paying at this point in my life where I make nada. Still waiting for one more decision, I'm 8 weeks post interview right now- and that's a $250 deposit and then I'll lose my $1500 at LECOM...

I agree @kalat it's absurd for them to expect you to pay all that money!

 

[Bea5T]

27 is pretty much a no go for most MD schools. That combined with a low GPA makes me wonder why people in this topic are telling OP to apply to multiple MD schools.

Are you an URM? What state do you reside in?

 

[stickshifthonda]

27 is pretty much a no go for most MD schools. That combined with a low GPA makes me wonder why people in this topic are telling OP to apply to multiple MD schools.

Are you an URM? What state do you reside in?

Depends on state residency but I agree with you, especially if they have below an 8 in any section. That was a mistake I made- wasting money where I had no chance.

Like everyone says, apply broadly! My advice would be a breadth of DO schools, and select in-state and new MDs if you're so inclined.

 

[bloodandguts]

Applied to 21 schools the first day possible for both MD and DO. My decisions came late September/early October. LECOM is a $1500 one time deposit, WVSOM $1000 then $2000 second deposit, which I just couldn't even fathom paying at this point in my life where I make nada. Still waiting for one more decision, I'm 8 weeks post interview right now- and that's a $250 deposit and then I'll lose my $1500 at LECOM...

I agree @kalat it's absurd for them to expect you to pay all that money!

Well, then I'm definitely applying to more than 10-15! Probably 20 if our stats are similar and you got 2-3 schools.

 

[bloodandguts]

Depends on state residency but I agree with you, especially if they have below an 8 in any section. That was a mistake I made- wasting money where I had no chance.

Like everyone says, apply broadly! My advice would be a breadth of DO schools, and select in-state and new MDs if you're so inclined.

10 9 8

I'm only applying two state schools, and maybe one new. The vast majority of my money is going to DO if I apply this cycle.

 

[j4pac]

You guys are much more mature than I was at your age. LOL.

Reasons I wanted to go MD...because all of my friends were going to one (USF specifically)

Reasons I went DO...because I didn't take the MCAT seriously on my first take and didn't have the score to get into USF (went down the street to LECOM Bradenton instead).

Before my LECOM Bradenton acceptance I retook my MCAT and had the stats for USF the following year. I figured to take what I had in hand (LECOM Bradenton) since I really wanted to be a doctor, loved the location, and loved the curriculum.

In hindsight I am happy with my decision. I was able to stay local by my friends and family. I got a good education. I believe that I am competent physician...and I have a great residency lined up. What's to complain about?

 

[bloodandguts]

I don't think my ability as a physician will magically get better going to an MD school. If there is almost reasonably equal chance of getting into my considered specialties, than the only difference would be I wasted a year of my short life. Every year counts, near death experiences are great for delivering perspective. And loan interest rates.

But at the same time, given the shortness of life, I'd like to be the kind of doctor I wanna be, either an ER doc, psychiatrist, pathologist or an oncologist. One of those four, I am pretty sure.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

10 9 8

I'm only applying two state schools, and maybe one new. The vast majority of my money is going to DO if I apply this cycle.

Seriously, 15 DO, 3 MD, you are in for sure. Apply day one and get your secondaries and letters of rec back fast. There is absolutely no reason you should not be getting in somewhere.

 

[Awesome Sauceome]

I don't think my ability as a physician will magically get better going to an MD school. If there is almost reasonably equal chance of getting into my considered specialties, than the only difference would be I wasted a year of my short life. Every year counts, near death experiences are great for delivering perspective. And loan interest rates.

But at the same time, given the shortness of life, I'd like to be the kind of doctor I wanna be, either an ER doc, psychiatrist, pathologist or an oncologist. One of those four, I am pretty sure.

100% attainable as a DO

 

[MPHOrtho13]

Advice? Personal experience? Thanks.

Regardless of MD or DO, apply early like others here have suggested. Last cycle, I planned to apply in June, but because I didn't start on my PS early enough, I ended up submitting my primary to dozens of MD/DO schools on August 1...Didn't get a single interview. This year, I submitted on the first day, and it made all the difference (my stats: higher MCAT, lower overall GPA (w/ a 3.9+ in PB & Grad), plus a decade of unique research/clinical/life ECs). So please don't make the same procrastination mistake as I did-- start on your app today (it's so much easier working on it slowly over time) and submit your primary on the first day possible.

Reasons I wanted MD
-I think manipulations are fake.

A word of caution-- While not all DOs are madly in love with OMM, it is one of the major differences between MDs and DOs (and, according to some people, the defining difference). If you think its all bs, then don't say you're madly in love with it in your essays. Friends of mine who have overstated their interest in OMM crashed and burned when asked about it in their interviews.

Also ask yourself-- could you see yourself being happy spending years learning about something you think is malarkey? If not, then maybe consider re-taking the MCAT and applying broadly to MD programs. While taking a gap year(s) to gain experience/make money/etc. isn't for everyone, my gap years were the most educational, fun, and fulfilling years of my life. Waiting isn't the 'doom and gloom' as some people may think.

I am just very adamant on being free to shape my path. I currently want to be an ER doc, a pathologist, oncologist (IM then) or a psychiatrist.

If you look at the match lists, you'll see that a lot of DOs match into those specialties. The vast majority of my DO med school friends want to or have gone into ER medicine, and many of my gunner DO friends matched into competitive allopathic and osteopathic specialties in ortho, plastics, etc. Is it harder to get into the Mayo clinic as a DO? Probably, but I wouldn't sweat it.

The truth is, even if you go to Harvard, you're not going to match into anything if you do poorly in your classes and flunk the boards. So for now, just focus on getting into a med school. Residency woes can come later. Good luck with your decision/apps! 🙂

 

[Roxas]

I had what I thought to be stats for a slim chance at MD (3.7/30) but would have been too late for the cycle so I went with my top choice DO acceptance. Had I been accepted MD I probably would have gone, but it really doesn't matter as much as the typical pre-med thinks it does. Not to mention, given my performance so far I wouldn't have had a shot for competitive residencies even at an MD school.

 

[bloodandguts]

I think I find EM the most appealing at this moment. Every time I shadowed there was so much variety, and different levels of problems. You deal with psych patients, small problems, and full-blown emergencies. So much variety and I got to see so much. Only thing that looked liked it sucked was the paperwork but no job is perfect.

From what I found searching, you need at least a 220 on step one to have a good shot at EM. And the average Step 1 score is around 230.

But there is something called the COMPLEX for DO's and I have no idea how that works. And things might change.

So I might be getting way, way, way ahead of myself.

 

[MightBeACylon439]

I think I find EM the most appealing at this moment. Every time I shadowed there was so much variety, and different levels of problems. You deal with psych patients, small problems, and full-blown emergencies. So much variety and I got to see so much. Only thing that looked liked it sucked was the paperwork but no job is perfect.

From what I found searching, you need at least a 220 on step one to have a good shot at EM. And the average Step 1 score is around 230.

But there is something called the COMPLEX for DO's and I have no idea how that works. And things might change.

So I might be getting way, way, way ahead of myself.

1. It's COMLEX, there's no P.
2. Many DO students also take the USMLE so this could be an option for you as well.
3. You are getting WAY WAY WAY ahead of yourself. You haven't even been accepted into any med school yet. If you don't, then your specialty desires will be pointless. So get in first.
4. After you get in you have to make through your first year, then your second year, then PASS the COMLEX/USMLE let alone get a competitive score. Then you have to make it through rotations.

...after you do all this, THEN worry about your specialty. After that you have residency, which from what I hear is med school 2.0.

Long story short, stop putting the cart before the horse. Right now you should be getting a school list and looking their secondary prompts up.

Do you have a personal statement ready?

 

[bloodandguts]

I met with profs, volunteering and research for LOR, personal statement is written but a rough draft. Also got a resume and a CV.
________

If their secondary promps are already up, I could get them all done in May so I could send them out immediately in the event I get a secondary. I never thought they'd be made available.

I like getting stuff done ahead of time. Guess I'll start working on a list. Try to split it 5 reach DO schools, 5 my level, and 5 safety. And 2 state schools and 1 new OOS private for MD.

 

[MarshMedic]

Right now you should be getting a school list and looking their secondary prompts up.

So the secondaries don't/rarely change?

 

[BorntobeDO?]

Depends on state residency but I agree with you, especially if they have below an 8 in any section. That was a mistake I made- wasting money where I had no chance.

Like everyone says, apply broadly! My advice would be a breadth of DO schools, and select in-state and new MDs if you're so inclined.

I have a 27 with a 7 in one section, and I have had 3 MD interviews (2 in state and 1 where I was desired demographic). Now I was rejected by two of those, and the third is pending, but the fact that I got the interviews means that what you said is not a hard and fast rule. Also had an interview for a MD guarenteed linkage program too.

Not gonna say it is easy or likely, but it can happen.

 

[velodork]

Basically, all I want to do is treat patients. I'll be applying MD and DO, and may very well end up making my decision based on the location of the school (I'll have a family in tow). I'm a bit worried that I dont care enough about which path I end up taking???

 

[MightBeACylon439]

So the secondaries don't/rarely change?

Not that I've seen year over year looking through past years threads. Go to the school specific sections and they usually have them there.

 

[kenjixshadow]

@HandsomeRob What was your GPA? OP's sGPA is 3.3 with a 27. That doesn't impress anyone. He/she has a low chance of getting any interview, unless is URM.

OP, if you think OMM is fake, you will hate it the first two years. Plus they will ask about it on your interview. Good luck faking your way through the interview.

 

[IslandStyle808]

I have a 27 with a 7 in one section, and I have had 3 MD interviews (2 in state and 1 where I was desired demographic). Now I was rejected by two of those, and the third is pending, but the fact that I got the interviews means that what you said is not a hard and fast rule. Also had an interview for a MD guarenteed linkage program too.

Not gonna say it is easy or likely, but it can happen.

Just because one gets an interview doesn't always mean a person meet their standards. I had a 25 MCAT and interviewed at my state school and got rejected out right. The threshold for getting an interview at my school is very low. However, to get an acceptance it is almost as tough as getting into a Cali school. The only reason why I applied was because I want to get into their post-baccalureate program, which you need to get rejected by our state school in order to interview.

 

[bloodandguts]

@HandsomeRob What was your GPA? OP's sGPA is 3.3 with a 27. That doesn't impress anyone. He/she has a low chance of getting any interview, unless is URM.

OP, if you think OMM is fake, you will hate it the first two years. Plus they will ask about it on your interview. Good luck faking your way through the interview.

Well, I have never lied before in my entire life so I'm not sure how I'll ever get through the interview.