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Traditionally, DO schools have not been heavy on the research, but things are changing. I'd like to attend a school with research opportunities, and all DO schools have "research" sections on their website, but some are better than others. So, i was wondering if anyone has any school recommendations? Yes, I can do this myself, and I will. But I would like some help, too. Thanks.
 
If you really want to go to a school for its research, you should go to Stanford, instead of a DO school. My uncle is a microbiologist there, and I can tell you first-hand that they are a ****ing powerhouse of epic proportions.

As far as DO schools go, TCOM is probably the most MD-like, in terms of research. And they have been for quite some time.

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I'm not trying to be a researcher, but i just want to be involved with some project during my medical school education. I did research during my last two years of college, and i liked it more than classes, but no way do i want to dedicate my life to research. I also want to just publish a few more papers before i apply for residency:laugh:
 
You can have the opportunity for publications from any school. However, except for WVSOM (which does very little, comparitively), the state-supported DO schools do the vast majority of research. TCOM far outweighs any of them in research dollars, but it's nearly impossible to get in unless you are a TX resident. Actually, it's still hard to get in as a TX resident as well. Go to the JAOA site and search for an article within about the last six or eight months that lists research dollars at all the DO schools. I don't remember exactly when it was. That could give you an indication.
 
UNECOM just built an entire building for biomed research. The pharm dept. is probably one of the busier research depts here.
 
If you guys ever do research, stay far away from RNAi projects unless you have at least 2+ years and ooodles of funding to back it up.
 
It might be worthwhile to check out schools that offer PhD programs for students outside of the DO degree. I know that PCOM and NYCOM have extensive neuro or biochem depts that do a lot of research. So places that have more established reseach programs but be something to look into.
 
ShyRem said:
UNECOM just built an entire building for biomed research. The pharm dept. is probably one of the busier research depts here.
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Hey Shy,
Has the research building been completed and is it up and running? When I was there last the outside was still covered in insulation
 
i would take a look at VCOM. they are also putting up a buidling for research including a study to look at head trauma in car accidents. i believe there are also opportunities to work with Virginia Tech faculty.
 
KCUMB and TCOM obviously have good grants and research opportunities in-place. However, one should not downplay some of the other medical schools and their future research capability, based solely on logistics. A number of osteopathic medical schools - that dont have dedicated research departments/buildings yet, still partner with research-heavy institutions. As SCPOD already mentioned, you can publish at various intervals from any school that has large university resources available in a metro-type area (PCOM-GA/Atlanta/Emory, RVUCOM/Denver/Univ of Colorado, and many other schools). Bear in mind that new schools often do not have direct faculty that participate in research endeavors because they want the faculty to commit solely to teaching and clinical education endeavors. The administration does not want faculty physicians to compete part-time with physicians in the communities where the med schools have opened, fostering positive relationships/partnerships and physician teaching support for the med schools going forward.
 
TexasTriathlete said:
If you really want to go to a school for its research, you should go to Stanford, instead of a DO school. My uncle is a microbiologist there, and I can tell you first-hand that they are a ****ing powerhouse of epic proportions.

As far as DO schools go, TCOM is probably the most MD-like, in terms of research. And they have been for quite some time.

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I actually asked the same question a week ago. Unfortunately, the DO world right now is very weak on research, a lot of it is due to not being attached to big universities and thus don't pull in the research dollars. I'd love to go to Stanford, if you can talk to him and get me involved with his Microbiology research, I'd be mucho grateful. :laugh:

Alas, that is a dream, but as for research in the DO world, this is changing thankfully, and I am very very happy to see the increased drive towards research - to me it is an integral part of medicine and all medical schools should absolutely be encouraging it. They should definitely be producing great scientists in addition to great clinicians.

In any case, to the OP: I'd recommend schools like OUCOM, TCOM and MSUCOM. A good rule of thumb is that if they have combined DO/PhD degree, with the PhD in a basic science, you are good to go. I believe all three are associated with research universities as well. Those are the three schools I'm definitely applying to for their DO/PhD program, but I am sure that you can do research without doing the whole PhD route too.
 
Thanks for all your help.

By the way, Lokhtar, I was looking at your MD APPS and you say somewhere that you removed a lot of DO schools from your list because of 3rd and 4th year horror stories. So i was wondering which schools are you referring too?

Right now, I think i want to go to either CCOM, NYCOM, KCUMB, or PCOM..and maybe DMU, MSUCOM. Any of those on your list?
 
cliquesh said:
Thanks for all your help.

By the way, Lokhtar, I was looking at your MD APPS and you say somewhere that you removed a lot of DO schools from your list because of 3rd and 4th year horror stories. So i was wondering which schools are you referring too?

Right now, I think i want to go to either CCOM, NYCOM, KCUMB, or PCOM..and maybe DMU, MSUCOM. Any of those on your list?
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Well I talked to several students from each college. It was really hard for them because the rotations that their schools offered (if any) weren't good, and it was a pain to do everything yourself while still paying $40k in tuition. It was a mess for a lot of them. And more frighteningly, many admitted that the places they went to did not give them as good a training as many of the schools with 'home hospitals' in the allopathic and osteopathic worlds. The first two years are very standardized across the country, but third and fourth years are not, so I'd advise you to talk to people about it.

From my research (and this is personal opinion), the best schools are MSUCOM, OUCOM, and PCOM. I believe NYCOM is good about that too. I don't want to bad mouth anyone.
 
As a former researcher, I'd probably consider adding CCOM & KCUMB to Lok's list of non-new schools. As a caveat, I still wouldn't rule out some of the new schools in metro areas & near solid research institutions - maybe as "runners-up".
 
OSU-COM has some excellent biomed and clinical research opps.
 
hi, i'm a lebanese premed student looking where ican do research before entering med school because i have a yaer off. can u help me find international reseach oppurtunities as a holder of medical lab technology degree ( premed) planning to join med school?
 
I starting my MSI this fall at AZCOM and I do not really know how 'research heavy' they are but they do have a building dedicated to it and many of the faculty conduct their own research so it shouldn't be awful. I just graduated from the University of Chicago (the atomic bomb school) and that is a powerhouse in all sorts of research.
With that said, I have a couple publications out there yadda yadda but didn't feel I should attend MD (got into) just to do research. One can always contact hospitals or even other university faculty for opportunities to research if you really want to...it doesn't have to be at the school you attend. For instance, I'm going to be shadowing a neurosurg from Barrows (well respected neurosurg group) and hopefully get some research done there as well. Its near the school so when I have time I will volunteer.
 
Somebody just asked this, but the answer is TCOM. There are a few others that are also decent research schools. I know PCOM-philly has some aging center ****, and the ones affiliated with state schools will be heavier on research, and they will have more resources to do so.

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TCOM? You have to be kidding. D.O schools offer little to no research. For the most part they will tell you it's a funding issue. To an extent that is true, but anyone that believes some of the D.O schools that claim they are "non-profits" is blind.
 
sam3404 said:
TCOM? You have to be kidding. D.O schools offer little to no research. For the most part they will tell you it's a funding issue. To an extent that is true, but anyone that believes some of the D.O schools that claim they are "non-profits" is blind.
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Are you sure you know what you're talking about? I mean really know?
 
I know exactly what I'm talking about. In fact, I'm looking at the numbers right now and (on AVERAGE) D.O. schools get way less research grants from the NIH and other sources than most MD schools. All I'm saying is that if you are looking to do research while in med school then you will have more resources to do so at an MD school. Oh and to scpod, obviously you are completely ignorant if you think 32 million dollars in research per institution per year counts as a biomedical research powerhouse. The University of Puerto Rico also claims that they dedicate around $35 mill a year for research. Far cry from the half billion John Hopkins med got, don't you think?
 
Nobody's comparing TCOM to Hopkins, but they still do some legitimate research there.

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