Any success stories for those with low MCAT scores?

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I got one. I got a 32 and I was still accepted at 12 schools. There is hope for low scores....see?
 
I thought 32 was above average?
 
chess_king said:
I thought 32 was above average?
The average for most SDNers is 35. You might be able to get an interview at a DO school with a 32, but only if you have a good GPA and great ECs. But that would be a long shot :laugh:
 
MechE said:
The average for most SDNers is 35. You might be able to get an interview at a DO school with a 32, but only if you have a good GPA and great ECs. But that would be a long shot :laugh:

Hmmm... I would have to disagree with you on that one. I think that a 32 will guarantee you many interviews at a DO school. I have a 28 and I have had no problem getting interviews with DO schools. (average MCATs for most DO schools is 24-25) I even got 3 at MD schools already. So, there is hope. I had a good GPA and lots of healthcare experience which helps. But if you have low MCATS like me, hang in there. There may be hope after all.
🙂
 
lowMCAT said:
Hmmm... I would have to disagree with you on that one. I think that a 32 will guarantee you many interviews at a DO school. I have a 28 and I have had no problem getting interviews with DO schools. (average MCATs for most DO schools is 24-25) I even got 3 at MD schools already. So, there is hope. I had a good GPA and lots of healthcare experience which helps. But if you have low MCATS like me, hang in there. There may be hope after all.
🙂
He/she was trying to be sarcastic
 
No need to fret, I got a 28, and already have an acceptance (albeit to a state school). So as long as your goals are reasonable realistic, you should have no problem as long as you didn't get an 18 or something like that (granted I've heard of 18's getting accepted at some DO schools).
 
You guys are making me want to puke! Try on a 23Q for size!! That's LOW people. Good grief. Numerous people get in with 28's (or around that score). You're not THAT iffy unless you're in my world. Then you're dealing with a big fat "maybe, but probably not!" Is everyone on this website applying strictly to ivy leagues or something?
 
Khenon said:
You guys are making me want to puke! Try on a 23Q for size!! That's LOW people. Good grief. Numerous people get in with 28's (or around that score). You're not THAT iffy unless you're in my world. Then you're dealing with a big fat "maybe, but probably not!" Is everyone on this website applying strictly to ivy leagues or something?

This website is depressing for those that didn't score above a 35 on the MCAT. I got a 31R and I feel as if I bombed the test whenever I read the posts on this site. You just have to keep reminding yourself that this is not reality and then it's OK. That is the major downfall of a forum such as this one - it is simply not representative.
 
I consider anything above 26-27 as being reasonable and good score. Being 31 or 32 or 28 is not low at all! 😀 It is pretty good and it can get you to lots of places for sure (that is of course depending on the rest of the application). In my question I was asking about numbers below 25 😳
 
MedDreamer said:
How did it happen?
I really need to hear some inspiring stories 🙂
thanx!

-M.dreamer

I was accepted at a DO school with a 26 so not all hope is lost with low scores.
good luck!
 
indo said:
I got one. I got a 32 and I was still accepted at 12 schools. There is hope for low scores....see?


This is RIDICULOUS and starting to annoy the hell out of me. 32 is NOT a low score ppl!!!!!!!! Get over yourself. 😱 😡

The average med applicant gets in with a 30 for God's sake. Anyone with a score equal to or above a 30 as a very good shot to get in (assuming, of course, that everything else is good as well). Geez...
 
KiKat37 said:
This is RIDICULOUS and starting to annoy the hell out of me. 32 is NOT a low score ppl!!!!!!!! Get over yourself. 😱 😡

The average med applicant gets in with a 30 for God's sake. Anyone with a score equal to or above a 30 as a very good shot to get in (assuming, of course, that everything else is good as well). Geez...

I second that.
 
KiKat37 said:
This is RIDICULOUS and starting to annoy the hell out of me. 32 is NOT a low score ppl!!!!!!!! Get over yourself. 😱 😡

The average med applicant gets in with a 30 for God's sake. Anyone with a score equal to or above a 30 as a very good shot to get in (assuming, of course, that everything else is good as well). Geez...
Here's hoping
 
For anyone who is concerned about their low mcat scores. I received secondaries from all the UC's and I interviewed at UCLA and UCSF. Guess what....my MCAT score is at the national average of composite score of 24. Don't worry just believe in what you are doing...
 
ucla09 said:
For anyone who is concerned about their low mcat scores. I received secondaries from all the UC's and I interviewed at UCLA and UCSF. Guess what....my MCAT score is at the national average of composite score of 24. Don't worry just believe in what you are doing...

Hey, thanks! That was very inspiring. Maybe there's not too much difference between a 23 and a 24? 😀 I applied to almost all the UC's too, but I'm out-of-state. I spent 6 years of my adult life in Cali though, so I'm hoping that helps (and, yes, I established residency during that time). Probably not, especially coupled with my low MCAT score, but I can hope. Thanks again for posting. Hopefully I can be one of those inspirational stories soon, too! Take care.
 
Khenon said:
You guys are making me want to puke! Try on a 23Q for size!! That's LOW people. Good grief. Numerous people get in with 28's (or around that score). You're not THAT iffy unless you're in my world. Then you're dealing with a big fat "maybe, but probably not!" Is everyone on this website applying strictly to ivy leagues or something?

Thank you Khenon! BTW, my stats are similar to yours and I have 3 interviews so far. THERE IS HOPE!!
 
my cousin got a 27 and he's MSII. he's hispanic but not URM
I know someone else who got a 25 and is MSIII, not URM.

It can be done 🙂 a 28 is definatly acceptable depending on where you apply. good advice from a previous poster, be realistic.
 
MechE said:
The average for most SDNers is 35. You might be able to get an interview at a DO school with a 32, but only if you have a good GPA and great ECs. But that would be a long shot :laugh:
Lol, you guys need to stop doing that or someone naive will actually believe it and go kill themself. It seems as if 32-33 may be the average on SDN, but I don't think SDN users are indicative of the entire med school applicant pool
 
wendywellesley said:
my cousin got a 27 and he's MSII. he's hispanic but not URM
I know someone else who got a 25 and is MSIII, not URM.

It can be done 🙂 a 28 is definatly acceptable depending on where you apply. good advice from a previous poster, be realistic.

Out of curiosity, how can you be Hispanic and not be an URM? Is being from Spain Hispanic?
 
On one hand, this forum is good to find out what is going on during the application process and to hear from honest people looking for support. However, on the other hand, it is really depressing and somewhat frustrating to hear people in this forum rant and rave about only getting a 30 and only receiving 4 interviews. Some people would kill to have those stats and it is an insult to the rest of the people looking on this forum for advice/support. There is one poster who kept posting about how awful he did on ehe MCAT and now is stating that he got inteviews at most of the top 10 schools.

All fo the pre-med cut throat crap that you deal with as an undergrad really comes out. You see a lot of sarcastic comments and a lot of comments putting down other people's statistics and achievements. I think if this was a more supportive site, it would make everyone a lot less nervous about this process. Remember, average matriculant is around 29-30 MCAT and GPA 3.5-3.6. This means people must score below the averages as well as above them. All of those posters who are unhappy with their 3.7, 33 MCAT will most likely get into quite a few schools (if they are more modest in an interview than they are on this forum) and leave spaces for other students.

So, relax. try not to let some of these people get to you.
 
blump said:
On one hand, this forum is good to find out what is going on during the application process and to hear from honest people looking for support. However, on the other hand, it is really depressing and somewhat frustrating to hear people in this forum rant and rave about only getting a 30 and only receiving 4 interviews. Some people would kill to have those stats and it is an insult to the rest of the people looking on this forum for advice/support. There is one poster who kept posting about how awful he did on ehe MCAT and now is stating that he got inteviews at most of the top 10 schools.

All fo the pre-med cut throat crap that you deal with as an undergrad really comes out. You see a lot of sarcastic comments and a lot of comments putting down other people's statistics and achievements. I think if this was a more supportive site, it would make everyone a lot less nervous about this process. Remember, average matriculant is around 29-30 MCAT and GPA 3.5-3.6. This means people must score below the averages as well as above them. All of those posters who are unhappy with their 3.7, 33 MCAT will most likely get into quite a few schools (if they are more modest in an interview than they are on this forum) and leave spaces for other students.

So, relax. try not to let some of these people get to you.


I second that. Going to this forum really stresses me out. A lot of it is really in how much you believe in yourself and in how much you want it. If you have scores that are below 25, you can always apply to DO schools (if you like their philosophy) and be a great applicant for them. It is true, that many people would love to have scores as high as 23, 24, etc. We should all be grateful for what we have and that we even have a chance of going to med school. Also, I have applied to a bunch of DO schools and some of them are really great. If you have low scores, they provide a wonderful alternative option. However, you should get familiar with their philosophy and have reasons for specifically wanting to be a DO. They don't like being a backup plan for people who can't get into MD schools.
 
lakersfan said:
Out of curiosity, how can you be Hispanic and not be an URM? Is being from Spain Hispanic?


yeah, that's a good question. it comes down to what aamc considers URM which i believe is strickly african americans, mexians, those from Puerto Rico and native americans.
we (my cousin and i) are agrentine.
 
indo said:
I got one. I got a 32 and I was still accepted at 12 schools. There is hope for low scores....see?

lmao
 
Khenon said:
You guys are making me want to puke! Try on a 23Q for size!! That's LOW people. Good grief. Numerous people get in with 28's (or around that score). You're not THAT iffy unless you're in my world. Then you're dealing with a big fat "maybe, but probably not!" Is everyone on this website applying strictly to ivy leagues or something?

It shouldn't take an ivy league to require higher than a 23, in my opinion. Sorry, but I want to see standards maintained.
 
monopolova said:
It shouldn't take an ivy league to require higher than a 23, in my opinion. Sorry, but I want to see standards maintained.

I would hardly say that an MCAT score, taken on one day of your life, is the standard of what makes a good doctor. Some very intelligent people do poorly on the MCAT. That is why they retake it. Khenon is planning on retaking the MCAT if she doesn't get into med school this round. Anyways, I'm sure that the med school curriculum would ensure that people meet the standards of what it takes to be a good doctor.
 
monopolova said:
It shouldn't take an ivy league to require higher than a 23, in my opinion. Sorry, but I want to see standards maintained.

Why would you say something that mean? Please explain? Does it make you feel big to make someone feel small? All you did was make someone already feeling low feel lower.
 
evajaclynn said:
I would hardly say that an MCAT score, taken on one day of your life, is the standard of what makes a good doctor. Some very intelligent people do poorly on the MCAT. That is why they retake it. Khenon is planning on retaking the MCAT if she doesn't get into med school this round. Anyways, I'm sure that the med school curriculum would ensure that people meet the standards of what it takes to be a good doctor.

evajaclynn, that was an incredibly well thought out (and true) statement - I'm glad there are people like you applying to med school. 🙂
 
Monday said:
Why would you say something that mean? Please explain? Does it make you feel big to make someone feel small? All you did was make someone already feeling low feel lower.

First, let me apologize; I misread and thought that Khenan claimed to have gotten accepted (that is the subject of the thread) with a 23. The tone that the post was written led me to believe that the poster was proud of getting in with this score, and to me, THAT was insulting.

Second, even the poster admits to have gotten a low score.

Third, I am insulted that someone thinks a non-ivy league school should have low standards. Why shouldn't I expect that my colleagues will be well-qualified?

I wish no one any bad luck. Even so, the attitude that we're all qualified to be doctors simply is naive. Let's be real.
 
evajaclynn said:
Anyways, I'm sure that the med school curriculum would ensure that people meet the standards of what it takes to be a good doctor.

So, let's let everyone in. Open the flood gates fellas!!!
 
I got a 22 my first time around and a 31 on my last try. Had I sat around after the 22 and said I am not capable of med school, I wouldn't be where I am today (the fact that I got my first rejection today is besides the point). One person, 2 different days, 2 different scores.
 
monopolova said:
First, let me apologize; I misread and thought that Khenan claimed to have gotten accepted (that is the subject of the thread) with a 23. The tone that the post was written led me to believe that the poster was proud of getting in with this score, and to me, THAT was insulting.

Second, even the poster admits to have gotten a low score.

Third, I am insulted that someone thinks a non-ivy league school should have low standards. Why shouldn't I expect that my colleagues will be well-qualified?

I wish no one any bad luck. Even so, the attitude that we're all qualified to be doctors simply is naive. Let's be real.

It takes more than high MCAT scores to make a good doctor. Thank God there are adcoms that can see beyond just scores. And I think this thread was started because someone was looking for some support - not ****.
 
FYI: This is evajaclynn responding:

fotolilith said:
evajaclynn, that was an incredibly well thought out (and true) statement - I'm glad there are people like you applying to med school. 🙂

Why thank you! 😀

Lets just try to stay positive everyone. Isn't this supposed to be a supportive and informative forum? Good luck to all of you who are giving it your best shot. :luck:
 
monopolova, you're an ass. Why would you peek into this thread given the title? To just put someone down looking for support? Obviously, you didn't have a low MCAT score so the only reason for you to look at this thread would be 1) To give you a ego boost 2) To put down some else

You seem to have chosen both
 
Khenon said:
You guys are making me want to puke! Try on a 23Q for size!! That's LOW people. Good grief. Numerous people get in with 28's (or around that score). You're not THAT iffy unless you're in my world. Then you're dealing with a big fat "maybe, but probably not!" Is everyone on this website applying strictly to ivy leagues or something?

Monopolova, I don't understand how you got that impression from reading that comment.

As for Khenon, being the voyeur that I am, she has done amazing accomplishments academically, through research, as well as life experience. That should be admired, and not put down because she does not have a MCAT score of 40. She has proved that she can balance responsibilities of being an independent adult, mother, and student. Judging whether or not someone is fit to be a good med school candidate on scores alone seems a little short-sighted, as I would hope grades and MCATs are not what medicine is all about.

P.S. Sorry Khenon for being such a honking voyeur, I can't help it, I see those little links in the signature, and curiousity kills me. :laugh:
 
ucla09 said:
For anyone who is concerned about their low mcat scores. I received secondaries from all the UC's and I interviewed at UCLA and UCSF. Guess what....my MCAT score is at the national average of composite score of 24. Don't worry just believe in what you are doing...

That's nice to hear 🙂 Good for you!
I'm really hoping to get some interviews going. I've got 23P and still believe and have faith that it might work out 🙂
 
monopolova said:
First, let me apologize; I misread and thought that Khenan claimed to have gotten accepted (that is the subject of the thread) with a 23. The tone that the post was written led me to believe that the poster was proud of getting in with this score, and to me, THAT was insulting..

I think that it's pretty arronagnt of you to assume that it would be INSULTING for someone with low MCAT score to be an Excellent physician!!

As many posters mentioned, the MCAT is just a one day tests and there are many variables that determine your score which are more than about inteligence and endurance! Some people study for months because they have the time for it, but others maybe are raising families, working full time or doing other things, and they can't sit for hours studying for such a test and guarantee getting a good score the first time. Don't forget that some of us have english as their second language, and our GPA is an enough relflection of our ability to handle academics! Imagine yourself studying Organic Chemistry or Biology in Arabic?Japanese? Russian? even French or Spanish.. Can you even imagine doing the MCAT in these languages????

You are forgetting that the MCAT is just a small part of the evaluation process and there are other factors to admissions process and thank god adcoms take everything into consideration!
 
I completely agree with you guys. SDN can be so harsh sometimes! It's actually ridiculous at times.

Our anxiety and stress would be considerably alleviated if we simply supported and encouraged one another. We're going to be colleagues one day!

I have shadowed and worked with many different physicians. I don't ever think of what their MCAT score was. Immediately, though, I notice their communication skills, personality, bedside manner, and passion for the profession. From what I know of Khenon, she is an amazing applicant. It is unfortunate that we are judged by a solitary, damning MCAT score. Intelligence cannot be reified! Khenon has displayed an admirable level of maturity and strength. She is supportive, genuine, and well-intentioned. Asides from that, it is obvious that she has substancial accomplishments in academia!

Also, I wanted to let you guys know that DO doesn't mean the end of the world. You're still a physician! Eight cardiologists make up the clinic I work at -- 7 MDs and 1 DO. The DO is their boss (and the most popular/busy doctor out of them all). Another example: I volunteered at an ER, where a DO was the head doc. Another example: chief of medicine at a local hospital, a DO.

POINT BEING: It's the PERSON you are, the attitute you project, the morals you possess, the warmth you display... that make you a good doctor and that make you gain the trust of others... If it is within you, then you WILL be successful. . .
 
WOW! I really missed alot last night, but coming in this morning . . . I'm just stunned! Thank everyone who totally jumped to my defense against monopolova's response to me. I can't believe all the kind words I read . . . and so many of you went to the trouble to look up my profile (hey . . . I put it there for a reason, right?!) and used specific examples to defend me. Holy Cow! I'm just so appreciative I can barely type out this post.

You know what. This just shows that there are some really awesome people on this website. SDN gets a pretty bad rep for only showing the "top tier" students/applicants, which of course implies they are arrogant, overly competitive, and unrealistic. But you guys have shown the absolute exception to that, and I know you're all going to make great doctors. What compassion, sympathy, and realistic views you have . . . that just speaks for itself. Boy! I'm just bubbling over with that "feel good" attitude right now! :laugh: Thanks again everyone. You're all great, and I wish you all the best with your applications. Take care.
 
VPDcurt said:
I got a 22 my first time around and a 31 on my last try. Had I sat around after the 22 and said I am not capable of med school, I wouldn't be where I am today (the fact that I got my first rejection today is besides the point). One person, 2 different days, 2 different scores.

So what's your point? I'm not debating that. If someone has a low score, go take it again!!! My point is with that 22, I don't think you should get in. What's wrong with that? 99% of adcoms are going to agree with me. Get used to it.
 
cathyg said:
It takes more than high MCAT scores to make a good doctor. Thank God there are adcoms that can see beyond just scores. And I think this thread was started because someone was looking for some support - not ****.

I guess we don't see eye to eye with what support means. If people want to hear lies, then go ahead. Give 'em what you got.
 
supersnuffles said:
Monopolova, I don't understand how you got that impression from reading that comment.

As for Khenon, being the voyeur that I am, she has done amazing accomplishments academically, through research, as well as life experience. That should be admired, and not put down because she does not have a MCAT score of 40. She has proved that she can balance responsibilities of being an independent adult, mother, and student. Judging whether or not someone is fit to be a good med school candidate on scores alone seems a little short-sighted, as I would hope grades and MCATs are not what medicine is all about.

P.S. Sorry Khenon for being such a honking voyeur, I can't help it, I see those little links in the signature, and curiousity kills me. :laugh:

I don't care about her life story, and frankly, her being a mother shouldn't factor into the decision. I didn't get a 40, I got a 33 which around here seems like slim pickings, but you're right, I am happy with my score. Finally, you would hope grades and MCATS are not what medicine is all about, but you would hope wrong. Again, if you weren't wrong, they would've eliminated these requirements and focused completely on essays, letters of rec based purely on emotion, and interviews.
 
Monopolova,

I think you missed my point. I'm not saying non-ivy league schools have low standards (ie accept people like me with 23's). I'm saying that a 28 isn't a "low" score, and doesn't automatically eliminate you from med school. My ivy league comment was referencing the idea that you HAVE to have a 35 to have a chance to get into med school, which perhaps for ivy leagues that's more true, but for most of the med schools out there, that's just not the case. I know so many people that got into med school with 20-something scores, and yes, they had to apply to many schools, and no, they didn't get into Harvard. That's my point. I just wanted people to get a grip on what a "low" score was . . . 28 - not a low score (ie very feasible chance for med school); 23 - a LOW score (ie very unlikely to get into med school - need to retake MCAT). I hope this clears up the misunderstanding.
 
MedDreamer said:
I think that it's pretty arronagnt of you to assume that it would be INSULTING for someone with low MCAT score to be an Excellent physician!!

As many posters mentioned, the MCAT is just a one day tests and there are many variables that determine your score which are more than about inteligence and endurance! Some people study for months because they have the time for it, but others maybe are raising families, working full time or doing other things, and they can't sit for hours studying for such a test and guarantee getting a good score the first time. Don't forget that some of us have english as their second language, and our GPA is an enough relflection of our ability to handle academics! Imagine yourself studying Organic Chemistry or Biology in Arabic?Japanese? Russian? even French or Spanish.. Can you even imagine doing the MCAT in these languages????

You are forgetting that the MCAT is just a small part of the evaluation process and there are other factors to admissions process and thank god adcoms take everything into consideration!

First, I didn't say someone with a low mcat wouldn't make an excellent physician. We're debating entrance to med school.

Second, I don't care if someone is raising a family, workng full time, or whatever. That's their problem and their life. Don't force their crap onto me. No one is obligated to accomodate them.

Third, some people do have trouble with the language, I admit that. Unfortunately for them, they will have a tougher time. Point? I should sacrifice standards for their inability to cope? (We're living in America, after all, not Russia -- it's important someone have proper communication skills without which they're going to truly be a crappy doctor here in the states.) Without the mcat, GPA reveals nothing. Sorry, but schools are not standardized.

Fourth, the mcat is a small part, but an important part.
 
monopolova said:
I don't care about her life story, and frankly, her being a mother shouldn't factor into the decision. I didn't get a 40, I got a 33 which around here seems like slim pickings, but you're right, I am happy with my score. Finally, you would hope grades and MCATS are not what medicine is all about, but you would hope wrong. Again, if you weren't wrong, they would've eliminated these requirements and focused completely on essays, letters of rec based purely on emotion, and interviews.

Whoa. Negative energy! Purging, purging...

It's clear, monopolova, that you're a realist. And I appreciate that. I even think you're 100% right - most adcoms will frown at a low MCAT score.

BUT!

There's always that chance, you know, that the person behind the application will shine through, and that s/he will make the adcoms sit up and take notice - and be brought in for an interview -- and then be granted admission. I would not trivialize how important a factor life experience is in the medical school application process. For the majority of students coming straight form undergrad MCATs, GPA and ECs are it. But for those of us who have been out a few/many years, and who have experienced other careers, had a family, etc., there's so much more to round out the application. Just food for thought...
 
Khenon said:
Monopolova,

I think you missed my point. I'm not saying non-ivy league schools have low standards (ie accept people like me with 23's). I'm saying that a 28 isn't a "low" score, and doesn't automatically eliminate you from med school. My ivy league comment was referencing the idea that you HAVE to have a 35 to have a chance to get into med school, which perhaps for ivy leagues that's more true, but for most of the med schools out there, that's just not the case. I know so many people that got into med school with 20-something scores, and yes, they had to apply to many schools, and no, they didn't get into Harvard. That's my point. I just wanted people to get a grip on what a "low" score was . . . 28 - not a low score (ie very feasible chance for med school); 23 - a LOW score (ie very unlikely to get into med school - need to retake MCAT). I hope this clears up the misunderstanding.

Glory be to God we agree!!!! I think a 27 or 28 is a great score with which to apply even though, around here at SDN at least, it is "low". I mean, I don't think you need to be in the 30s to get into (or deserve to get into) med school. But 22 or 23? Let's be real and say: please retake or reconsider. I took it one step further to say, "well, jeez, if I was on an adcom, I'd be the first to say, 'sorry' but no entry for you", which is why people started calling me an "ass" even though I don't think I was out of line to think that way. It is the reality after all; I'm not going to give sugar coated responses to affirm someone's denial.
 
ajt2003 said:
Whoa. Negative energy! Purging, purging...

It's clear, monopolova, that you're a realist. And I appreciate that. I even think you're 100% right - most adcoms will frown at a low MCAT score.

BUT!

There's always that chance, you know, that the person behind the application will shine through, and that s/he will make the adcoms sit up and take notice - and be brought in for an interview -- and then be granted admission. I would not trivialize how important a factor life experience is in the medical school application process. For the majority of students coming straight form undergrad MCATs, GPA and ECs are it. But for those of us who have been out a few/many years, and who have experienced other careers, had a family, etc., there's so much more to round out the application. Just food for thought...

I can appreciate that, and I think people take it one step too far to assume that I don't want non-trads to get in, etc. Not at all.
 
monopolova said:
Glory be to God we agree!!!! I think a 27 or 28 is a great score with which to apply even though, around here at SDN at least, it is "low". I mean, I don't think you need to be in the 30s to get into (or deserve to get into) med school. But 22 or 23? Let's be real and say: please retake or reconsider. I took it one step further to say, "well, jeez, if I was on an adcom, I'd be the first to say, 'sorry' but no entry for you", which is why people started calling me an "ass" even though I don't think I was out of line to think that way. It is the reality after all; I'm not going to give sugar coated responses to affirm someone's denial.

😕 I still don't think you understood my original post. Your response to my original post was completely inappropiate. I wasn't looking affirmation about my score, nor do I need a reality check . . . especially from you. I wasn't asking for your advice, nor do I care if you wouldn't accept me into your medical program. My statement was quite clear and simple . . .

A 28 is not a low score.

A 23 is a low score.

That's it. You were called an ass because you made ridiculous assumptions, insulted me, were rude, inconsiderate, arrogant, and completely out of line.

I was trying to clear up the misunderstanding, but it's now clear to me that you have no other goal than to make sure I know how horrible/insufficient/useless/non-competitive my score is. I'm not sure why you think you need to do that. I know exactly where a 23 puts me in the eyes of admissions committees. How my original post made you think otherwise is beyond my comprehension.
 
I've got your back Khenon. 🙂
 
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