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I really need to hear some inspiring stories 🙂
thanx!
-M.dreamer
I really need to hear some inspiring stories 🙂
thanx!
-M.dreamer
It is. Not sure if indo is just being a jerk or is naive.chess_king said:I thought 32 was above average?
The average for most SDNers is 35. You might be able to get an interview at a DO school with a 32, but only if you have a good GPA and great ECs. But that would be a long shotchess_king said:I thought 32 was above average?
MechE said:The average for most SDNers is 35. You might be able to get an interview at a DO school with a 32, but only if you have a good GPA and great ECs. But that would be a long shot![]()
He/she was trying to be sarcasticlowMCAT said:Hmmm... I would have to disagree with you on that one. I think that a 32 will guarantee you many interviews at a DO school. I have a 28 and I have had no problem getting interviews with DO schools. (average MCATs for most DO schools is 24-25) I even got 3 at MD schools already. So, there is hope. I had a good GPA and lots of healthcare experience which helps. But if you have low MCATS like me, hang in there. There may be hope after all.
🙂
Khenon said:You guys are making me want to puke! Try on a 23Q for size!! That's LOW people. Good grief. Numerous people get in with 28's (or around that score). You're not THAT iffy unless you're in my world. Then you're dealing with a big fat "maybe, but probably not!" Is everyone on this website applying strictly to ivy leagues or something?
MedDreamer said:How did it happen?
I really need to hear some inspiring stories 🙂
thanx!
-M.dreamer
indo said:I got one. I got a 32 and I was still accepted at 12 schools. There is hope for low scores....see?
KiKat37 said:This is RIDICULOUS and starting to annoy the hell out of me. 32 is NOT a low score ppl!!!!!!!! Get over yourself. 😱 😡
The average med applicant gets in with a 30 for God's sake. Anyone with a score equal to or above a 30 as a very good shot to get in (assuming, of course, that everything else is good as well). Geez...
Here's hopingKiKat37 said:This is RIDICULOUS and starting to annoy the hell out of me. 32 is NOT a low score ppl!!!!!!!! Get over yourself. 😱 😡
The average med applicant gets in with a 30 for God's sake. Anyone with a score equal to or above a 30 as a very good shot to get in (assuming, of course, that everything else is good as well). Geez...
ucla09 said:For anyone who is concerned about their low mcat scores. I received secondaries from all the UC's and I interviewed at UCLA and UCSF. Guess what....my MCAT score is at the national average of composite score of 24. Don't worry just believe in what you are doing...
Khenon said:You guys are making me want to puke! Try on a 23Q for size!! That's LOW people. Good grief. Numerous people get in with 28's (or around that score). You're not THAT iffy unless you're in my world. Then you're dealing with a big fat "maybe, but probably not!" Is everyone on this website applying strictly to ivy leagues or something?
Lol, you guys need to stop doing that or someone naive will actually believe it and go kill themself. It seems as if 32-33 may be the average on SDN, but I don't think SDN users are indicative of the entire med school applicant poolMechE said:The average for most SDNers is 35. You might be able to get an interview at a DO school with a 32, but only if you have a good GPA and great ECs. But that would be a long shot![]()
wendywellesley said:my cousin got a 27 and he's MSII. he's hispanic but not URM
I know someone else who got a 25 and is MSIII, not URM.
It can be done 🙂 a 28 is definatly acceptable depending on where you apply. good advice from a previous poster, be realistic.
blump said:On one hand, this forum is good to find out what is going on during the application process and to hear from honest people looking for support. However, on the other hand, it is really depressing and somewhat frustrating to hear people in this forum rant and rave about only getting a 30 and only receiving 4 interviews. Some people would kill to have those stats and it is an insult to the rest of the people looking on this forum for advice/support. There is one poster who kept posting about how awful he did on ehe MCAT and now is stating that he got inteviews at most of the top 10 schools.
All fo the pre-med cut throat crap that you deal with as an undergrad really comes out. You see a lot of sarcastic comments and a lot of comments putting down other people's statistics and achievements. I think if this was a more supportive site, it would make everyone a lot less nervous about this process. Remember, average matriculant is around 29-30 MCAT and GPA 3.5-3.6. This means people must score below the averages as well as above them. All of those posters who are unhappy with their 3.7, 33 MCAT will most likely get into quite a few schools (if they are more modest in an interview than they are on this forum) and leave spaces for other students.
So, relax. try not to let some of these people get to you.
lakersfan said:Out of curiosity, how can you be Hispanic and not be an URM? Is being from Spain Hispanic?
indo said:I got one. I got a 32 and I was still accepted at 12 schools. There is hope for low scores....see?
Khenon said:You guys are making me want to puke! Try on a 23Q for size!! That's LOW people. Good grief. Numerous people get in with 28's (or around that score). You're not THAT iffy unless you're in my world. Then you're dealing with a big fat "maybe, but probably not!" Is everyone on this website applying strictly to ivy leagues or something?
monopolova said:It shouldn't take an ivy league to require higher than a 23, in my opinion. Sorry, but I want to see standards maintained.
monopolova said:It shouldn't take an ivy league to require higher than a 23, in my opinion. Sorry, but I want to see standards maintained.
evajaclynn said:I would hardly say that an MCAT score, taken on one day of your life, is the standard of what makes a good doctor. Some very intelligent people do poorly on the MCAT. That is why they retake it. Khenon is planning on retaking the MCAT if she doesn't get into med school this round. Anyways, I'm sure that the med school curriculum would ensure that people meet the standards of what it takes to be a good doctor.
Monday said:Why would you say something that mean? Please explain? Does it make you feel big to make someone feel small? All you did was make someone already feeling low feel lower.
evajaclynn said:Anyways, I'm sure that the med school curriculum would ensure that people meet the standards of what it takes to be a good doctor.
monopolova said:First, let me apologize; I misread and thought that Khenan claimed to have gotten accepted (that is the subject of the thread) with a 23. The tone that the post was written led me to believe that the poster was proud of getting in with this score, and to me, THAT was insulting.
Second, even the poster admits to have gotten a low score.
Third, I am insulted that someone thinks a non-ivy league school should have low standards. Why shouldn't I expect that my colleagues will be well-qualified?
I wish no one any bad luck. Even so, the attitude that we're all qualified to be doctors simply is naive. Let's be real.
fotolilith said:evajaclynn, that was an incredibly well thought out (and true) statement - I'm glad there are people like you applying to med school. 🙂
Khenon said:You guys are making me want to puke! Try on a 23Q for size!! That's LOW people. Good grief. Numerous people get in with 28's (or around that score). You're not THAT iffy unless you're in my world. Then you're dealing with a big fat "maybe, but probably not!" Is everyone on this website applying strictly to ivy leagues or something?
ucla09 said:For anyone who is concerned about their low mcat scores. I received secondaries from all the UC's and I interviewed at UCLA and UCSF. Guess what....my MCAT score is at the national average of composite score of 24. Don't worry just believe in what you are doing...
monopolova said:First, let me apologize; I misread and thought that Khenan claimed to have gotten accepted (that is the subject of the thread) with a 23. The tone that the post was written led me to believe that the poster was proud of getting in with this score, and to me, THAT was insulting..
VPDcurt said:I got a 22 my first time around and a 31 on my last try. Had I sat around after the 22 and said I am not capable of med school, I wouldn't be where I am today (the fact that I got my first rejection today is besides the point). One person, 2 different days, 2 different scores.
cathyg said:It takes more than high MCAT scores to make a good doctor. Thank God there are adcoms that can see beyond just scores. And I think this thread was started because someone was looking for some support - not ****.
supersnuffles said:Monopolova, I don't understand how you got that impression from reading that comment.
As for Khenon, being the voyeur that I am, she has done amazing accomplishments academically, through research, as well as life experience. That should be admired, and not put down because she does not have a MCAT score of 40. She has proved that she can balance responsibilities of being an independent adult, mother, and student. Judging whether or not someone is fit to be a good med school candidate on scores alone seems a little short-sighted, as I would hope grades and MCATs are not what medicine is all about.
P.S. Sorry Khenon for being such a honking voyeur, I can't help it, I see those little links in the signature, and curiousity kills me.![]()
MedDreamer said:I think that it's pretty arronagnt of you to assume that it would be INSULTING for someone with low MCAT score to be an Excellent physician!!
As many posters mentioned, the MCAT is just a one day tests and there are many variables that determine your score which are more than about inteligence and endurance! Some people study for months because they have the time for it, but others maybe are raising families, working full time or doing other things, and they can't sit for hours studying for such a test and guarantee getting a good score the first time. Don't forget that some of us have english as their second language, and our GPA is an enough relflection of our ability to handle academics! Imagine yourself studying Organic Chemistry or Biology in Arabic?Japanese? Russian? even French or Spanish.. Can you even imagine doing the MCAT in these languages????
You are forgetting that the MCAT is just a small part of the evaluation process and there are other factors to admissions process and thank god adcoms take everything into consideration!
monopolova said:I don't care about her life story, and frankly, her being a mother shouldn't factor into the decision. I didn't get a 40, I got a 33 which around here seems like slim pickings, but you're right, I am happy with my score. Finally, you would hope grades and MCATS are not what medicine is all about, but you would hope wrong. Again, if you weren't wrong, they would've eliminated these requirements and focused completely on essays, letters of rec based purely on emotion, and interviews.
Khenon said:Monopolova,
I think you missed my point. I'm not saying non-ivy league schools have low standards (ie accept people like me with 23's). I'm saying that a 28 isn't a "low" score, and doesn't automatically eliminate you from med school. My ivy league comment was referencing the idea that you HAVE to have a 35 to have a chance to get into med school, which perhaps for ivy leagues that's more true, but for most of the med schools out there, that's just not the case. I know so many people that got into med school with 20-something scores, and yes, they had to apply to many schools, and no, they didn't get into Harvard. That's my point. I just wanted people to get a grip on what a "low" score was . . . 28 - not a low score (ie very feasible chance for med school); 23 - a LOW score (ie very unlikely to get into med school - need to retake MCAT). I hope this clears up the misunderstanding.
ajt2003 said:Whoa. Negative energy! Purging, purging...
It's clear, monopolova, that you're a realist. And I appreciate that. I even think you're 100% right - most adcoms will frown at a low MCAT score.
BUT!
There's always that chance, you know, that the person behind the application will shine through, and that s/he will make the adcoms sit up and take notice - and be brought in for an interview -- and then be granted admission. I would not trivialize how important a factor life experience is in the medical school application process. For the majority of students coming straight form undergrad MCATs, GPA and ECs are it. But for those of us who have been out a few/many years, and who have experienced other careers, had a family, etc., there's so much more to round out the application. Just food for thought...
monopolova said:Glory be to God we agree!!!! I think a 27 or 28 is a great score with which to apply even though, around here at SDN at least, it is "low". I mean, I don't think you need to be in the 30s to get into (or deserve to get into) med school. But 22 or 23? Let's be real and say: please retake or reconsider. I took it one step further to say, "well, jeez, if I was on an adcom, I'd be the first to say, 'sorry' but no entry for you", which is why people started calling me an "ass" even though I don't think I was out of line to think that way. It is the reality after all; I'm not going to give sugar coated responses to affirm someone's denial.