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[stooges287]

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...notice how cynical some of the med students and residents are about healthcare? Yikes.

 

[coldweatherblue]

...notice how cynical some of the med students and residents are about healthcare? Yikes.

meh, I think it's kind of expected. I'm cynical right now because it's Christmas eve and I've spent 24 of the last 35 hours working in a restaurant. Just because I'm cynical that doesn't mean I'm not a damn good waiter and that I don't enjoy my job most of the time however.

I think it's all about expectations. Medicine definitely isn't the rosy career that I dreamt about when I was five years old. However the world in general is a lot more ****ed up than I envisioned it as a child, so the same things that screwed up the rest of the world screwed up medicine. That doesn't mean however that there isn't the possibility to do great good in medicine as I once envisioned, the good that is done is just shrouded by various types of BS just like nearly every other kind of good.

The only expectations I have from medicine are constant rigorous education, adequate financial compensation, steady employment, and ultimately fulfillment from knowing that I have developed myself and am doing good work.

 

[coffeebythelake]

I think some of us are bound to be cynical when we consider the debt, the malpractice, the uncertainties, the stress, and the declining public appreciation for their physicians. Sure, established physicians earn a good living, but how many times have you heard people say, "doctors make too much money". And how many times have you heard them say that dentists, lawyers, businessmen make too much money?

 

[stooges287]

Yeah, I suppose I was just surprised when there are actual people going through the harrowing process of residency talking about their personal experiences with how messed up healthcare is. This, plus their predictions of impending doom make for a bad impression on the outlook of medicine.

 

[RySerr21]

if you want cynical read the house of god

 

[stooges287]

Ugh, I don't know if I could handle reading something that's more cynical than the stuff on those allo forums. Some of those rants are like a pit of despair 🙁

 

[Timmythemic22]

I'm only one semester in on med school, and you will have a DRASTICALLY different view on medicine once you begin. It happens to all of us (aside from deluded AMSA members). Hold on to your rosey expectations as long as you can, they will come crashing down sooner or later.

 

[pseudoknot]

People like to get on SDN to whine. Most med students I know aren't that unhappy. And always remember:

"The mind is its own place, and in itself, can make heaven of Hell, and a hell of Heaven."
-- John Milton

 

[da8s0859q]

...notice how cynical some of the med students and residents are about healthcare? Yikes.

Ugh, I don't know if I could handle reading something that's more cynical than the stuff on those allo forums. Some of those rants are like a pit of despair 🙁

I think it's as much a matter of some of the premeds being far too idealistic as it is some current MD/DOers being far too cynical, but that's just my $.02.

I'm only one semester in on med school, and you will have a DRASTICALLY different view on medicine once you begin. It happens to all of us (aside from deluded AMSA members). Hold on to your rosey expectations as long as you can, they will come crashing down sooner or later.

 

[smq123]

Ugh, I don't know if I could handle reading something that's more cynical than the stuff on those allo forums. Some of those rants are like a pit of despair 🙁

What stuff on the allo forums? 😕 Most of the stuff there is fairly benign.

The stuff on the residency forums, though, is a little more cynical, although I guess you could say that residents are entitled to a fair amount of cynicism.

 

[Ashers]

What stuff on the allo forums? 😕 Most of the stuff there is fairly benign.

The stuff on the residency forums, though, is a little more cynical, although I guess you could say that residents are entitled to a fair amount of cynicism.

Exactly. I guess around finals there's a lot more complaining, and now a lot of the M3s have moved their complaining to the Clinical Rotations forum.

But, to the OP I hate to break this to you, but almost every doctor I know is cynical about health care etc. I'm no where near as bad as my dad who's been in practice for almost 30 years. There's so much stuff one has to put up with, insurance companies, paper work, etc. My dad wishes medicine could be the same as it was when he graduated from residency and started a solo practice in the early 80s -- when "medicine was fun."

Having grown up around doctors, I guess I expected nothing less than what I see.

 

[stooges287]

But, to the OP I hate to break this to you, but almost every doctor I know is cynical about health care etc. I'm no where near as bad as my dad who's been in practice for almost 30 years. There's so much stuff one has to put up with, insurance companies, paper work, etc. My dad wishes medicine could be the same as it was when he graduated from residency and started a solo practice in the early 80s -- when "medicine was fun."

Having grown up around doctors, I guess I expected nothing less than what I see.

Yeah, I was referring more to the residency forums. But I just thought it was interesting because the doctors I've shadowed have pretty much kept those things to myself, but online people are free to b*tch to their hearts content 🙂 . I suppose there's nothing to do about it but accept it. Thanks on all the input guys!