anyone considers applying to Sullivan?

[FuturePharm2008]

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Hey guys,

I was just wondering if there is anyone thinking about applying to Sullivan pharmacy school? I think i am.
How trustworthy are u guys of this new school?
Have u guys already taken the PCAT and are satisfied with the scores to start applying or are waiting to take it in october?

 

[futurerx212]

I am applying to Sullivan. I have been to th school and spoken with the dean. It seems pretty reputable. I get updates almost every week via email about their status

 

[pb323]

Sullivan person here and from the Louisville area.

I have had nothing but good experiences with them thus far. Not only are they cordial, they are very efficient. I met the assistant dean last week and got the same impression from him.

From what I've seen, they seem VERY proud of the school that they are planning ...I realize that my impression may not help you as I can't provide a concrete proof of anything. But I feel very good about my decision. There is something to be said for intuition

I follow the accreditation process very carefully, but they give updates very frequently as futurerx212 said. Also, Dr. Tran played a big role in the opening of LECOM, so that may give an idea.

Are you from Louisville??

 

[steveysmith54]

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[pb323]

Undergrad GPA: 3.4 in Biology
Graduate GPA is 3.6 in Exercise Physiology
PCAT: I'll let you know in about 4 weeks unless I am too embarrassed.

 

[RNtoPharmD]

I want to but.. I don't want to spend a hundread dolllar while the school is not accredited yet. Should I go ahead and send the application in ?

 

[PharmDream]

I am applying... seems like a good school.

 

[RNtoPharmD]

I looked at the university website. I didn't see any academic programs related to science like Biology, Chemistry degree etc.. They have business, paralegal and MBA and culinary art...

I think it is a good school. But it would be more trustworthy if they have at least pre-pharmacy degree or Biology or nursing degree there.

However, the admission staff is very cordial when I called them.

 

[pb323]

RNtoPharmD:

I see your point, especially if your school decision involves a relocation.

But, perhaps the appointed faculty would be a better reflection of that. The website doesn't have much info except for the dean and existing dean, but that would be a good question to ask them

If you are thinking of the facilities, consider that some of the coursework, clinical included, is in collaboration with the UL School of Medicine.

This my speculation, but there is immense potential for clinical experience in Louisville. There are four major hospitals and a outpatient cancer center within a couple of blocks from the med school. I'm aware of one hospital system that will be involved...okay, I checked and they say "exploring."

Okay, I'm sounding like a member of the Sullivan cheer squad. 🙂 But, I just wanted mention to give a perspective from a local.

 

[steveysmith54]

I looked at the university website. I didn't see any academic programs related to science like Biology, Chemistry degree etc.. They have business, paralegal and MBA and culinary art...

I think it is a good school. But it would be more trustworthy if they have at least pre-pharmacy degree or Biology or nursing degree there.

However, the admission staff is very cordial when I called them.

t.

 

[FuturePharm2008]

How come i don't see that many faculty members who have had pharmacy degrees or something.
Don't they need those in the profession to teach the pharmacy classes?

 

[pb323]

Other than the dean and asst dean, I highly doubt that the other listed faculty members are professors/instructors.

If you contact them, they would likely provide you with more specific info regarding the teaching faculty.

 

[futurerx212]

thats a good point. It's known as one of those schools that can get u an AA degree in 9 month, for hospitality programs, and stuff of that nature. That concerns me because the newer schools that are opened recently like Pacific have optometry, PT, and other schools. Touro has a OD program.

Well, one of those programs had to be the first. Don't discount Sullivan before you see any results. Who knows, the Pharmacy school may be a springboard for other programs.

 

[zn1988]

I would love to apply to Sullivan, but school fee is incredibly high.

 

[bananaface]

Alot of people think new schools charge alot to apply because they are out for profit. But, there is a practical reason for charging a high app fee. As the application fee is raised, those who rank a school lower on their list of prospective schools are less likely to apply. Even with high app fees, the new schools have been getting an incredibly high number of applicants. If the fees were lower, they'd have even more applications to sort through, and the average interest of each applicant in the school would be lower. Low app fees would probably make the initial admissions process a nightmare.

 

[CHARMO]

Sullivan person here and from the Louisville area.

I have had nothing but good experiences with them thus far. Not only are they cordial, they are very efficient. I met the assistant dean last week and got the same impression from him.

From what I've seen, they seem VERY proud of the school that they are planning ...I realize that my impression may not help you as I can't provide a concrete proof of anything. But I feel very good about my decision. There is something to be said for intuition

I follow the accreditation process very carefully, but they give updates very frequently as futurerx212 said. Also, Dr. Tran played a big role in the opening of LECOM, so that may give an idea.

Are you from Louisville??

Did you already apply to the sullivan program. Since you visited the school, how far have they gone with the infastructure for classes? And when do they plan on getting pre-accreditation???

 

[pharmacyanalyst]

Did you already apply to the sullivan program. Since you visited the school, how far have they gone with the infastructure for classes? And when do they plan on getting pre-accreditation???

They have all that info on the website. The class schedule and descriptions are pretty detailed.

I am applying only to Sullivan. I just finished my app and personal statement. Now I am working on my curriculum vitae and I will be ready to send it in. I am taking the PCAT in Oct and am REALLY nervous. I've been out of school for awhile and all that chem is shoved WAY back in my brain. One of the VP's where I work is very involved in starting up the program. He helped to choose the Dean so I am hoping that buys me some points.

 

[Loner2008]

I found a Sullivan's pharmacy student at my space:


http://www.myspace.com/scooternky84


is that eminem on fire-CRACK-er?

 

[CHARMO]

I found a Sullivan's pharmacy student at my space:


http://www.myspace.com/scooternky84


is that eminem on crack? [/quote

Sullivan pharmacy student?? R u sure. R u suggesting that they already started accepting students??? HMMMMMMMM🙄. Thought they had to have at least pre-accreditation before they could send out acceptance letters.

 

[futurerx212]

The application deadline for Sullivan is not until January. They do not have rolling admission so it is impossible for someone to have already been accepted...they may have submitted their application, but definitely not accepted.

 

[steveysmith54]

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[pb323]

Actually, people have been accepted.

 

[confettiflyer]

^^if this is true...big big red flag. HICP scandal, anyone?

 

[pb323]

Okay, I didn't add specifics to my last post. Full acceptance offers are pending the ACPE visit. I just pointed that out because the MySpace person is not necessarily bluffing.

 

[steveysmith54]

where do u get that info pb323? Did you get accepted or someone you know?

 

[pharmacyanalyst]

I am also curious to know- I know they are reviewing applications but I didn't hear about any acceptances yet.

 

[CHARMO]

I am also curious to know- I know they are reviewing applications but I didn't hear about any acceptances yet.

Yup, that's right. I know someone too who has been given conditional admission

 

[pb323]

Yup, that's right. I know someone too who has been given conditional admission

Ditto


pharmacyanalyst: Did you do undergrad at UL? (if you don't mind my asking)

 

[pharmacyanalyst]

Ditto


pharmacyanalyst: Did you do undergrad at UL? (if you don't mind my asking)

Yep- I got my BA in Chem at UL. (go cards!)

 

[pb323]

BA-Bio here,

I've been out of undergrad for quite awhile, had to pull out the textbooks again.

 

[pharmacyanalyst]

BA-Bio here,

I've been out of undergrad for quite awhile, had to pull out the textbooks again.

Me too- I'm having a hard time reviewing all the chem concepts. Did you have Steffen for Cell Molec or Perlin for Genetics?

 

[pb323]

I had Steffan at 5:30--prime time for a nap anyway. I HATED the Genetics lab.

I retook general chem this past Spring for review at a CC. My first grade was fine, but I wanted a foundational review. Did you have Stanley Phulphager as a TA? He was the instructor of this class.

I finished in 1997. I was accepted to Dental school and was there a SHORT time (like orientation and the class picnic). My intuition told me that it wasn't for me. Looking back, my intuition was telling me prior to starting, but I was in denial.

 

[pharmacyanalyst]

I went to Grove City College for a couple years- changed my major and transferred to UL. Then I took a couple years off and worked so I didn't "finish" until 2003. I was at UL from 97-99 and 02-03.

I don't remember a Phulpager but I don't remember many of the TA's. By the time I got to UL, I had my basic chem classes out of the way and took P Chem, Bio Chem, etc..

What Pharm schools are your applying to?

 

[pb323]

Sullivan only due to geography. I would have applied 10 years ago otherwise

 

[pharmacyanalyst]

Sounds like we are in the same boat! Have you taken the PCAT or sent your app in yet? Do you currently work in Louisville? I am at Humana.

 

[PharmDream]

Has anyone heard anything from them yet???

 

[CHARMO]

I think they are waiting to have their ACPE visit in October before they send out any info.

 

[charhea]

I'm not personally applying to Sullivan.. nor would I consider going there. However, I have heard of people getting interviews and supposedly already being accepted.

 

[steveysmith54]

I'm not personally applying to Sullivan.. nor would I consider going there. However, I have heard of people getting interviews and supposedly already being accepted.

can I Ask why?

I mean based on their website, they look like they are on the right track. How many schools have governor and mayor come to their opening? They bought building, and even building new classrooms. They owner of the university is rich. They have faculty, experienced dean, etc.

 

[Loner2008]

I noticed the trend is that student who are not even accepted into any program nor is in pharmacy starts talking low about other programs in general...they're probably in the dark...so even if you're applying to other program, have you even got into any pharmacy school yet?? even if you're in another program, why bash on other program or this particular program for instance...that's just my observation...sometimes, posting for uterior motives or imply some type of irony, backlash,.........cheers for those acceptance, informed, vigilance, and professional class...

 

[malpal22]

I received my letter of conditional acceptance today!! They are offering conditional acceptance pending that I complete the rest of my pre-req's and they are granted permission to enroll students into the program. They ACPE board is going Oct. 25-27 so we'll all probably hear more then.

 

[CHARMO]

I received my letter of conditional acceptance today!! They are offering conditional acceptance pending that I complete the rest of my pre-req's and they are granted permission to enroll students into the program. They ACPE board is going Oct. 25-27 so we'll all probably hear more then.

Did u take the pcat yet?

 

[charhea]

Don't assume I'm bashing Sullivan because I'm not. I would just never be the pioneer class for a school. Sure they may turn out to have a reputable program.. but why not try to get into schools that are known for developing great pharmacists? I wouldn't consider a first time school unless no one else would take me. It's only my opinion.

My main point was to say that they are already accepting people, but everyone missed that part.

 

[pharmacyanalyst]

Quote:
Originally Posted by malpal22
I received my letter of conditional acceptance today!! They are offering conditional acceptance pending that I complete the rest of my pre-req's and they are granted permission to enroll students into the program. They ACPE board is going Oct. 25-27 so we'll all probably hear more then.

Did u take the pcat yet?

Do you mind posting your stats- gpa, pcat, experience?

 

[PharmDream]

wow I can't believe that they already accepted people... That means I need to hurry up 🙂

 

[Loner2008]

maybe i am not the only who is not in the dark or who do not have all the answers but 'tis what i found

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07-21-2007, 11:56 PM #1 AcesFull
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How many students do not receive admission?
Hey everyone. I've used the search function and cannot find an answer to a very specific question: How many applicants do not receive admission to ANY school? I saw on the AACP website that Pharmacy schools received over 90,000 apps and only 10,000 or so people were enrolled last year. Surely the 90,000 number is referring to number of applications and not applicants because I find it hard to believe that 80,000 or so do not get in. Thanks in advance for your responses. The information will be very helpful to me because I am trying to decide if I should apply to some masters programs as well.

or some out there like so see other have a year off? whatever i dont know.......

 

[aboveliquidice]

maybe i am not the only who is not in the dark or who do not have all the answers but 'tis what i found

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07-21-2007, 11:56 PM #1 AcesFull
New Member

Status: Pre-Pharmacy
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 2

How many students do not receive admission?
Hey everyone. I've used the search function and cannot find an answer to a very specific question: How many applicants do not receive admission to ANY school? I saw on the AACP website that Pharmacy schools received over 90,000 apps and only 10,000 or so people were enrolled last year. Surely the 90,000 number is referring to number of applications and not applicants because I find it hard to believe that 80,000 or so do not get in. Thanks in advance for your responses. The information will be very helpful to me because I am trying to decide if I should apply to some masters programs as well.

or some out there like so see other have a year off? whatever i dont know.......

I am not exactly sure what this post is referring to - but what I do know about the Pre-candidate status - YES - students can be accepted before Pre-candidate is given - however, I do not believe classes can begin.

Pacific University received Pre-candidate on June 28th, 2006 - and its first class began in August of the same year. It received Candidate status almost the same time this year.

Sullivan is following the typical time line for a new pharmacy school that is complying the ACPE. As for those talking about Sullivan being like HICP - you are grossly misinformed.

HICP was a private school without any other standing programs - it was several investors getting together - we a breakaway professor from USN - They had little financial backing - and did not follow any ACPE standards. More specifically - the currently standing rule requiring a school to be regionally accredited BEFORE beginning a School of Pharmacy was instituted BECAUSE of HICP

Sullivan on the other hand has established programs in Business and office administration, hospitality, and education.

Their dean comes from LECOM, and has had experience in starting new pharmacy programs twice before coming to Sullivan - and he has been featured in SDN official interview posted on this site.

In short - feel free to post your opinions about going to a new program - but please do not confuse opinions with facts - and certainly do not pass YOUR opinions off for facts - that is careless.

~above~

 

[Loner2008]

Let me shed some light

Agreed. Who would wants to step in a classroom without any accreditation, that would be like hicp again...

That's a fact 😴excuss my zzz....

Definitely agreed...even some pharmacist i've talked to are in the dark about this...

yeah, i did a google about it and ""this is happened""when you... i meant to the investor:

Settlement. We are pleased to report that David Monroe has accepted full responsibility for what happened at the Hawaii College of Pharmacy and a settlement of the case has been reached. As a result, a judgment has been entered against him and Pacific Educational Services Company which obliges them each to pay approximately $6.5 million in restitution and $7.5 million in civil penalties. The judgment is good for ten years and is renewable for an additional ten years. PES, Monroe and Criswell are also subject to a permanent injunction barring them from ever doing business in or from Hawaii.


[quote = Sullivan on the other hand has established programs in Business and office administration, hospitality, and education.

Their dean comes from LECOM, and has had experience in starting new pharmacy programs twice before coming to Sullivan - and he has been featured in SDN official interview posted on this site.]

That's a fact 😴excuss my zzz....

 

[CHARMO]

Let me shed some light

Agreed. Who would wants to step in a classroom without any accreditation, that would be like hicp again...

That's a fact 😴excuss my zzz....

Definitely agreed...even some pharmacist i've talked to are in the dark about this...

yeah, i did a google about it and ""this is happened""when you... i meant to the investor:

Settlement. We are pleased to report that David Monroe has accepted full responsibility for what happened at the Hawaii College of Pharmacy and a settlement of the case has been reached. As a result, a judgment has been entered against him and Pacific Educational Services Company which obliges them each to pay approximately $6.5 million in restitution and $7.5 million in civil penalties. The judgment is good for ten years and is renewable for an additional ten years. PES, Monroe and Criswell are also subject to a permanent injunction barring them from ever doing business in or from Hawaii.


[quote = Sullivan on the other hand has established programs in Business and office administration, hospitality, and education.

Their dean comes from LECOM, and has had experience in starting new pharmacy programs twice before coming to Sullivan - and he has been featured in SDN official interview posted on this site.]

That's a fact 😴excuss my zzz....

I'm not sure what ur point is.

 

[aboveliquidice]

Let me shed some light

Agreed. Who would wants to step in a classroom without any accreditation, that would be like hicp again...

That's a fact 😴excuss my zzz....

Definitely agreed...even some pharmacist i've talked to are in the dark about this...






I'm not sure what ur point is.

I think he is tired.?.