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I am not really a practicing Catholic and I consider myself a 'scientist', but I am having a hard time believing 'fully' in evolution. I guess it might play a role but it is hard for me to believe that all the minute mechanisms in, say, the human body, could have been produced by random mutation. The timeframe doesn't make sense to me (yes I know it has been over millions of years...but still).

Any thoughts?
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TallScrubs said:
I am not really a practicing Catholic and I consider myself a 'scientist', but I am having a hard time believing 'fully' in evolution. I guess it might play a role but it is hard for me to believe that all the minute mechanisms in, say, the human body, could have been produced by random mutation. The timeframe doesn't make sense to me (yes I know it has been over millions of years...but still).

Any thoughts?
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No.
 
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TallScrubs said:
I am not really a practicing Catholic and I consider myself a 'scientist', but I am having a hard time believing 'fully' in evolution. I guess it might play a role but it is hard for me to believe that all the minute mechanisms in, say, the human body, could have been produced by random mutation. The timeframe doesn't make sense to me (yes I know it has been over millions of years...but still).

Any thoughts?
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not millions, friend. billions. billions of years. it's literally impossible for humans to wrap their heads around the idea of geologic time. we spent half of the entire history of life on earth just getting to eukaryotes, and then half of the remainder getting to multicellular organisms. a billion years to go from nuclei to specialization doesn't seem outlandish to me.
 
I believe that evolution is at work currently; however, I don't know that I buy into all of the proposed theories of how the human race came to be. If you haven't already, check out Francis Collins' The Language of God. It's a pretty good read.
 
Not really sure why the Catholic thing matters.
 
TallScrubs said:
I am not really a practicing Catholic and I consider myself a 'scientist', but I am having a hard time believing 'fully' in evolution. I guess it might play a role but it is hard for me to believe that all the minute mechanisms in, say, the human body, could have been produced by random mutation. The timeframe doesn't make sense to me (yes I know it has been over millions of years...but still).

Any thoughts?
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Future DO's of America


Yea im trollin
 
Nope... not at all. Especially since their is a fossil time line showing (almost) every step of the way.
 
TallScrubs said:
I am not really a practicing Catholic and I consider myself a 'scientist', but I am having a hard time believing 'fully' in evolution. I guess it might play a role but it is hard for me to believe that all the minute mechanisms in, say, the human body, could have been produced by random mutation. The timeframe doesn't make sense to me (yes I know it has been over millions of years...but still).

Any thoughts?
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Here's a thought...go take an evolution class.
 
OP: I strongly suggest you reconsider your proposed career in medicine, and instead consider something more along your line of intelligence/education. For the sake of our future patients

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TallScrubs said:
I am not really a practicing Catholic and I consider myself a 'scientist', but I am having a hard time believing 'fully' in evolution. I guess it might play a role but it is hard for me to believe that all the minute mechanisms in, say, the human body, could have been produced by random mutation. The timeframe doesn't make sense to me (yes I know it has been over millions of years...but still).

Any thoughts?
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lol troll post.

why is fully in quotation marks?

Dude take Bio 101 or even AP Bio and you'll have a little depth into the evolution debate....at least a little.
 
I am not really a practicing Catholic and I consider myself a 'scientist', but I am having a hard time believing 'fully' in gravity. I guess it might play a role but it is hard for me to believe that the attractive forces on, say, planet Earth, could have been produced by gravity. The concept doesn't make sense to me (yes I know it has been over billions of years...but still).

Any thoughts?
 
What is the OP's opinion on where the minute mechanisms came from then? And how does one explain the similarities between organisms(i.e chimpanzees and humans) other than through evolution?
 
circulus vitios said:
I am not really a practicing Catholic and I consider myself a 'scientist', but I am having a hard time believing 'fully' in gravity. I guess it might play a role but it is hard for me to believe that the attractive forces on, say, planet Earth, could have been produced by gravity. The concept doesn't make sense to me (yes I know it has been over billions of years...but still).

Any thoughts?
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I like that people accept without argument the idea that the rotation of the earth doesn't send us flying into space, but the very notion that things evolve over time is blasphemous.
 
I'm a practicing Christian and still don't understand why Christians have such a hard time accepting evolution. If you actually read and study it, the Bible and evolution can coexist almost fully in the forms that they are both generally taught/understood.

Jus' sayin'.
 
asrikrishnan said:
What is the OP's opinion on where the minute mechanisms came from then? And how does one explain the similarities between organisms(i.e chimpanzees and humans) other than through evolution?
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OP claims to have a good grasp of the concept of billions of years. OP has lived ~20 years. Stupid OP
 
asrikrishnan said:
What is the OP's opinion on where the minute mechanisms came from then? And how does one explain the similarities between organisms(i.e chimpanzees and humans) other than through evolution?
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Jesus.
 
Every time a new species evolved, it was just God creating a new species. There, problem solved.
 
I GUARANTEE you OP will become an OMM specialist in the future
 
xlcooplx said:
I believe that evolution is at work currently; however, I don't know that I buy into all of the proposed theories of how the human race came to be. If you haven't already, check out Francis Collins' The Language of God. It's a pretty good read.
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+1, its a good read.

Whatyousay said:
I like that people accept without argument the idea that the rotation of the earth doesn't send us flying into space, but the very notion that things evolve over time is blasphemous.
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This is not even close to a fair argument. Gravity is a proven natural law. Not sure if you want to expand, but if you can please do so.
 
BTW that Miss USA youtube video was hilarious to watch. You can tell the huge difference of opinion between the northern and southern states.
 
Ursa said:
This is not even close to a fair argument. Gravity is a proven natural law. Not sure if you want to expand, but if you can please do so.
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I saw evolution a couple weeks ago in a cell culture. Umad?
 
Never said that I didn't believe in evolution. I was simply trying to say that it is VERY DIFFICULT to wrap my head around the idea evolution accounting for all biological mechanisms. I HAVE taken a class in evolution and did quite well.

I mentioned that i wasn't a practicing catholic to say that I don't think creationism is the story.
 
If evolution isn't real then how do you explain Pokemon?

Checkmate, OP
 
Ursa said:
This is not even close to a fair argument. Gravity is a proven natural law. Not sure if you want to expand, but if you can please do so.
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And now we've gotten into an argument of "law" versus "theory."

No thanks on the expansion. Let's keep the focus of this thread solely on bashing the OP.
 
Ursa said:
+1, its a good read.



This is not even close to a fair argument. Gravity is a proven natural law. Not sure if you want to expand, but if you can please do so.
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I love Texas school systems.
 
TallScrubs said:
Never said that I didn't believe in evolution. I was simply trying to say that it is VERY DIFFICULT to wrap my head around the idea evolution accounting for all biological mechanisms. I HAVE taken a class in evolution and did quite well.

I mentioned that i wasn't a practicing catholic to say that I don't think creationism is the story.
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So the idea that an "unknown" force accounts for some biological mechanisms is easier to accept than random events accounting for all biological mechanisms? Whatever floats your boat, I guess.
 
theWUbear said:
OP: I strongly suggest you reconsider your proposed career in medicine, and instead consider something more along your line of intelligence/education. For the sake of our future patients
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Still waiting for the argumen of why my view on evolution will affect my practice of medicine.
 
Fine, let me remove the confusion.

Pretend I originally meant to say:

Does evolution blow anybody else's mind?
 
TallScrubs said:
I am not really a practicing Catholic and I consider myself a 'scientist', but I am having a hard time believing 'fully' in evolution. I guess it might play a role but it is hard for me to believe that all the minute mechanisms in, say, the human body, could have been produced by random mutation. The timeframe doesn't make sense to me (yes I know it has been over millions of years...but still).

Any thoughts?
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i have a harder time believing you're going to be a doctor.
 
I've gone to Catholic schools for 14 years, and I was taught evolution in all of those years. Evolution is just a theory so it may be disproven in the future, but there sure is a lot of evidence that backs it up. I recommend taking an evolution class at your local college.
 
TallScrubs said:
Still waiting for the argumen of why my view on evolution will affect my practice of medicine.
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Because you're rejecting (or "not understanding") an observable and documented theory that has held up to testing since it became mainstream 250 something years ago.
 
Ursa said:
This is not even close to a fair argument. Gravity is a proven natural law. Not sure if you want to expand, but if you can please do so.
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Actually I'm pretty sure gravity is still a theory.

TallScrubs said:
I mentioned that i wasn't a practicing catholic to say that I don't think creationism is the story.
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The previous Pope accepted evolution as a valid scientific theory.
 
roseglass6370 said:
I'm a practicing Christian and still don't understand why Christians have such a hard time accepting evolution. If you actually read and study it, the Bible and evolution can coexist almost fully in the forms that they are both generally taught/understood.

Jus' sayin'.
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So skip the first book of the bible?
 
I believe in both.

Problem?
 
roseglass6370 said:
I'm a practicing Christian and still don't understand why Christians have such a hard time accepting evolution. If you actually read and study it, the Bible and evolution can coexist almost fully in the forms that they are both generally taught/understood.

Jus' sayin'.
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lolwut? You best be trolling harder than the OP...

Ursa said:
This is not even close to a fair argument. Gravity is a proven natural law. Not sure if you want to expand, but if you can please do so.
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You can't prove the natural law of gravity, you have to take it on faith. :laugh:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
/OP
 
calvnandhobbs68 said:
Here's a thought...go take an evolution class.
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Seriously, please take an upper division bio course on evolution.

Also, I know you probably hate Richard Dawkins, but read The Selfish Gene and/or Climbing Mount Improbable.
 
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