What exactly are you saying? That couples (especially younger) are made up of mixed attractiveness levels? Either the people disagreeing with me don't live in western society or they suck at assessing attractive. Seeing as how most people constantly overrate women and underrate men I think the second part is very fair.
Actually, the science on this one is on your side. People tend to date those that are of their attractiveness level, and solicit dates of those at their attractiveness level or above. However, as you age, that balance tends to change a bit, as people start to place an emphasis on other things, and thus you tend to end up with a greater variation in married couples versus those in the young 20s dating market.
Agree with everything but lets not forget attractiveness falls with age as well. I do agree though that other things are valued as one ages but often I feel that it's because it just seems more logical for someone of that age to value those things more.
You've been going to the wrong places then. Not saying what you say is false in that it CAN happen, but the alternative is more common.
Well, personality and confidence actually can get you laid quite a lot if you've got them. The guys I know that get laid the most aren't the ones that are the most attractive, they're the ones that are the center of social circles that everyone wants to be around. The centers of scenes fare far better than your average attractive guy.
Chances are you're underrating those popular guys. But yes having good social status will help a lot too.
It's more common for average guys to be with attractive girls? That goes against common sense before anything else.
Meh. I know a guy with a very average job and looks like Groucho Marx and Randy Quaid had a kid, but who continues to date exclusively model types, best I can tell, totally based on his personality. One recent girlfriend said she found him attractive because his look was so "interesting". And we ALL know guys like this. And see them at the bars, restaurants, beaches. It's so common it's almost cliche. That you haven't seen this phenomenon is somewhat remarkable to me. As mentioned a whole industry exists of homely people selling books and videos of how to pick up attractive women, through personality, humor, etc. Lots of attractive people have unconventional views of beauty, or hangups, daddy issues, whatever, too, which drives them to date "down". Probable outnumber the people with purely conventional magazine cover instilled views of what's attractive.
Yeah,
I'm definitely not underrating them. The most popular among them is bald and obese, but he's been a bartender and event organizer for decades and basically runs a large portion of the social scene in the city. Anyone who's anyone knows his name, and he's invariably considered to be a legend by all that know him or know of him. Is life easier when you're more attractive? Obviously. But it's not hopeless if you're not.
That's my point though. Many men are capable of being outliers if they try. Socially, financially, with talent, etc. We're already physicians or on our way to becoming physicians- that shows that many, or even most, of us are capable of things most people aren't. So to anyone on this board, get off your ass and go be an outlier, you're capable of damn near anything.
But is a natural introvert really capable of becoming popular in the club scene? Is someone with an IQ of 100 who can't even understand basic math capable of getting into a high paying profession? Is naturally chubby and/or unathletic person capable of becoming a high end athlete? Someone who can't even manage his own budget capable of running a successful business?
I'm more focused on the people here though. We're not average.
ok so maybe you are trying to find excuses for yourself for not getting an attractive date, and if you want to say it's because they'd never be interested in a chubby introvert with a 100 IQ who is bad at math and business, then sure, you can run with that. Meanwhile plenty of guys who aren't ever going to be precision athletes or financial moguls will date well above their station daily.
Yes, but the Adam West version and only in Times Square.
I dunno, most of the people I know are 30+, so there's a lot more variability.
Why does it matter? I mean, really, at the end of the day? Most people in med school aren't getting married until their late 20s or early 30s anyway.
There's a bat woman? In the comics I just recall batgirl. But she was a lesser character compared to the bromance with Robin. At any rate Ironman seems like the much better adjusted of the billionaire superheroes...
She was Catwoman. Totally different animal. 🙂
Money and job status used to matter a lot. Nowadays it's a minority and a lot of people are more upfront about it. Hence you get booming sites like seekingarrangement which are designed for the whole sugar daddy thing.
Sure but all the attractive girls I'm friends with have numerous attractive guys talking to them. Personality matters a lot and if there are 5 good looking guys you can bet that 2 will be disqualified based on personality. But there are still 3 left for example. Another thing is that these girls and all the other ones I've known flat out ignore anyone below their league.
It's still possible to make good money in medicine. I'm not talking 7 figures (though many do that still) but rather mid 6 figures. Many surgeons and subspecialists do that, as do many docs who have oriented their practices towards maximum profit. If you remove the bottom 30-40% of physicians income wise you get more realistic averages the represent those who are pursuing money in this field. So long story short, no you won't be a multimillionaire baller but you can certainly look rich superficially.
By mid 6 figures I meant 300-600k range.
That sounds like something pick up artists try to sell kids with their books and seminars. lol.
I already pointed out I know a couple very attractive guys who have multiple one night stands a week using things like Tinder. Maybe of their hook ups are with girls in relationships.
False. "Game" matters a lot yes. I'm implying that there are a lot of guys that are good at it and therefore it isn't much of a factor. If only half of attractive guys had "game" that still leaves a lot of guys that have it. If you have 20 girls and 20 guys, it's very easy for the 3 guys who have both attractiveness and game to have their pick of those 20 and that's exactly what occurs until you get older.
