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cool!! but did u get the letter first or the call.
 
Well, my question got answered today in the mail. I had e-mailed Dr. Aguilera about my status and he said that my file just went through the executive admissions committee at UCLA and that I'd be hearing from them soon.

And I got a letter in the mail today placing me on the alternate list...so I guess it's just not accepts that they send to UCLA, they also send waitlists.

Good Luck everyone...hope you all hear better news than I did.
 
Maybe they are only sending out waitlist this week...😕
 
Luiw25,

I guess that means that UCLA really likes your application. I am sure you will probably get into UCLA or Drew/UCLA, it now a matter of when. Did anybody else hear this week? Docmemi have you heard from them yet?
 
nope, havent heard yet.

my sources tell me the drew match was great. ill try to get the list within the next couple days. i know there was 1 opthalmology, 1 radiology, and 1 anesthesiology (aheemmmm at usc ahemm) matches. most others were internal med, family pract, emergency med and peds as you would expect. a large majority matched in CA.

in everyone's face!! that is wonderful news! :clap: :clap: im so happy.
 
Wow! I am glad that the trend of strong matches continues at Drew/UCLA. That is great news (although I am not surprised given the programs history). It would be interesting to see where are the students will be going.
 
really i am very happy. i always believed in the program. these great matches come at a hard time for the university. it means a lot! it should help some people who are concerned whether they should matriculate this year or not.

jalbs, so i just learned today that some students take time off, like a year, before applying to residency through the match. is that true? how common is that? what kinds of things do they do in the year off?
 
Originally posted by docmemi
jalbs, so i just learned today that some students take time off, like a year, before applying to residency through the match. is that true? how common is that? what kinds of things do they do in the year off?
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Generally it means that they didn't match and are doing research to get a more competative chance the next year. So it's mostly the people who think they are competative for the most competative residencies.
 
It sucks that things have to turn out this way for Drew. 😡
There are people out there who have to make the choice of going to Drew vs. attending a school outside Cali. And I guess you just have to go with your heart.

To one of my friends who may have to make the choice, I still think you're better off going to Northwestern or Pittsburgh...
 
Thanks docmemi for the information! It is nice to see something positive on this particular thread! :hardy:
 
calbe, what do you mean? clearly the drew/ucla med edu program is still strong.

jalby, well i heard that some students dont even participate in the match to begin with...they take time off. i guess to make their app stronger.
 
Did anybody get accepted to Drew/UCLA this week??? I hope so...or else it means that the letter coming to my house in DC is probably a waitlist. Keep your fingers crossed.+pity+
 
A friend of mine got a letter for the alternate list today...

I haven't checked my po box in two days... but I'm going to assume I got waitlisted as well (no phone calls yet) .... will post when I get my official letter

Wish you guys better luck!
 
DREW/ULCA MEDICAL PROGRAM 2004 MATCH

19 STUDENTS PARTICIPATED IN THE MATCH. ALL WERE MATCHED TO A PROGRAM. (THE REMAINING 5 STUDENTS IN THE PROGRAM DID NOT PARTICIPATE. A FEW DECIDED TO DO 1 YR OF EXTRA RESEARCH, AND 1 HAD TO FINISH HIS MBA). IF I HAVE IT CORRECT, 14/19 STUDENTS MATCHED IN CALIFORNIA. MANY GOT THEIR FIRST CHOICE. ONLY 1/19 IS STAYING AT KING/DREW FOR OB/GYN AND SHE WANTED TO (BCZ OF HER TIES WITH MENTORS AND RESEARCH).

ANESTHESIOLOGY: 1
UNIV SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA-CA (PGY1 TRANSIT IN CALI)

RADIOLOGY-DIAGNOSTIC: 1
U ROCHESTER/STRONG MEM-NY (PGY1 TRANSIT IN CALI)

OPTHALMOLOGY: 1
SAUSHEC-AIR FORCE-TX (...FIRST CHOICE I HEARD)

INTERNAL MEDICINE: 3
UCLA MED CTR-CA
STANFORD UNIV PROGS-CA
MAIN MEDICAL CENTER

FAMILY PRACTICE: 4
HARBOR-UCLA MED CTR-CA
KAISER PERM-ORANGE COUNTY-CA
LONG BEACH MEM MED CTR-CA
NORTHRIDGE HOSP MED CTR-CA

PEDIATRICS: 3
UCLA MEDICAL CENTER-CA (PEDS COMM HEALTH & ADVOCACY)
LOMA LINDA UNIVERISTY-CA
HARBOR-UCLA MED CTR-CA

EMERGENCY MEDICINE: 3
LOMA LINDA UNIV-CA X 2 (THESE TWO GUYS I HEARD DID AMAZING ON THE BOARDS. LLU ER IS SUPPOSED TO BE GREAT)
UNIV MARYLAND MED CTR

PSYCHIATRY: 1
HARBOR-UCLA MED CTR-CA

OBTETRICS/GYNECOLOGY: 1
MARTIN L KING JUR/DREW-CA

TRANSITIONAL YEAR: 1 (NEEDS PGY2...THE ONLY DOWNER, YET STILL VERY GOOD)
HARBOR-UCLA MED CTR-CA
 
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I THINK ITS SWEET. IM VERY HAPPY WITH IT...

THE ANESTH AT USC IS AMAZING! THERE WERE ALSO OTHER VERY COMPETITIVE MATCHES IN THERE. THE DREW/UCLA PROG IS STRONG AS EVER AND WILL ALWAYS BE SPECIAL. :clap:
 
Yeah, that is a pretty good match. one super competative residency and 5 pretty competative residencies.
 
I too was placed on the alternate list. I hope there is some waitlist movement.😀
 
Damn, their matchlist is better this year than it has ever been.
 
Originally posted by docmemi
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT? I THINK ITS SWEET. IM VERY HAPPY WITH IT...

THE ANESTH AT USC IS AMAZING! THERE WERE ALSO OTHER VERY COMPETITIVE MATCHES IN THERE. THE DREW/UCLA PROG IS STRONG AS EVER AND WILL ALWAYS BE SPECIAL. :clap:
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I think despite what hospitals outside California think, the residency programs in California should all find the Drew Program to be respectable (I mean, it's a problem with the hospital, not the students anyway). I believe that especially UCLA and USC, who are more familiar with the situation at Drew, won't discriminate against Drew graduates.

Nevertheless, Exmike and my other friend who reads SDN and doesn't post (You know who you are 😉) really have to be careful when making the decision.
 
You also have to remember that these 4th years at Drew that just matched were not truly exposed to the "situation" like the current 3rd years and they might have even done their 4th yr rotations elsewhere besides King Drew and they probably interviewed for residency program's before all of this other mess that came out during the past 3 months or so.

I'm more curious about next year's match..that'll be interesting and hopefully it'll be just as good as this year's match. That'll show em'! 😀
 
Does anybody have any idea how Drew/UCLA's waitlist works?? How many applicants get waitlisted??? When are they going to start drawing from the waitlist?
 
Is Drew/UCLA waitlist ranked?? How much impact will a letter of intent or interest have?

:idea:
 
i would call and find out for you, but i think jeff is catching on to my voice. 🙂

i would think that a intent letter will have a very large impact. especially if in it you can prove your mission is the same as drew's and how/why u want to go there so badly. its better than nothing. the problem though is that many people tell drew that its their first choice and sometimes dont end up going there after they are accepted...so drew is kind of skeptical of what applicants tell them now. but if your background proves it, they will believe you.

anyhow, if you decide to send one, you should prolly send it to dr aguilera and not miller.

im pretty sure that anyone not accepted immediately post-interview, which is like almost everyone 🙂, is put on the waitlist. i guess only those who dont get an interview are rejected at first. i dont even know if jeff will be able to answer these questions. esp with dr ag now just taking over they may be playing the process by ear, plus jeff is kinda new.
 
Has anyone who interviewed after December heard anything back from Drew? :idea: 😴 :idea:
 
volt, exmike was accepted as im sure you know. the other sdners who interviewed back then just recently got waitlist letters.
best wishes.
 
thanks docmemi. 🙂
 
LA Times

Problems at King/Drew Reflect Official Neglect

March 21, 2004

Re "No More Trauma at King/Drew," editorial, March 18: Errors in medical care are inevitable, as long as humans are involved with providing this service. This is especially true in prescribing and dispensing medication, since this occurs millions of times a day throughout the country. These errors range from a simple delay in administering drugs to egregious mistakes, such as giving the wrong medicine to a patient. Nevertheless, all forms of error must be corrected.

King/Drew Medical Center has suffered for years from inattention, lack of sufficient funding, inadequate staffing, a handful of incompetent and uncaring healthcare providers and a varying quality of leadership. All of these issues eventually led to the problems that are being uncovered. The Times' comment that "the county supervisors aren't off the hook" shows insight. The rising costs of healthcare underscore that any hospital ? including King/Drew ? cannot survive without the resources needed to provide safe, quality care.

Thomas Yoshikawa MD

Chief of Internal Medicine

King/Drew Medical Center
 
LA Times. good news. :clap:

Ailing Hospital to Keep Federal Funds
Satisfied with plans for fixes, officials won't pull $200 million-plus from King/Drew Medical Center, as they had threatened.
By Steve Hymon
Times Staff Writer

March 20, 2004

Health officials on Friday decided against pulling more than $200 million in federal funding from Martin Luther King Jr./Drew Medical Center, finding the hospital had submitted adequate plans for correcting widespread flaws in the way it administers drugs to patients.

"They've removed the immediacy" of the problem, said Steven Chickering, a manager for the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services. "We're basically giving them more time to ? fix the problems."

Dispatched earlier this month to look into the case of a meningitis patient who had been wrongly given a potent cancer drug, inspectors found that drugs had been repeatedly withheld or wrongly administered to 12 patients.

Many of these errors were directly witnessed by the inspectors, who in some cases had to intervene to prevent harm to patients at the Los Angeles County-owned hospital.

The meningitis patient, for instance, was the victim of more than 40 medication mistakes while the hospital was on notice that it had erred with the cancer drug.

Inspectors also found that medications sometimes sat for hours in the pharmacy, waiting to be delivered to patients. In addition, nurses administered incorrect doses of drugs.

In response, the Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services threatened to pull its funding unless the problems were immediately corrected.

Fred Leaf, chief operating officer of the county health department, said the primary fixes at the Willowbrook hospital involve having multiple employees sign off on drugs before they are given to patients and adding "runners" to speed up the delivery of prescriptions to the pharmacy and drugs to the rooms. In addition, the staff will be retrained on the proper administration of medications, he said.

For now, the hospital remains out of compliance in the areas of nursing, pharmacy and quality assurance, Chickering said. The Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services will send another team of inspectors to the hospital in coming weeks to ensure that it comes into compliance.

The revocation of federal funds would have been highly unusual, and a severe blow to one of the few hospitals serving minority and impoverished communities around South Los Angeles.

Leaf said the damage would have extended far beyond the hospital itself, to the entire health department, which already is facing a $650-million to $750-million deficit in the next few years.

"This would have been disastrous," Leaf said. "We would have to consider much more drastic actions in terms of closing facilities and loss of services."

Supervisor Yvonne Brathwaite Burke, who represents the district that includes the hospital, said that she had feared the latest report on the medication problems would sink the institution. It followed a host of sanctions in recent months levied by regulators and accrediting bodies.

"My reaction was, what nurse, knowing there had been all these problems, wouldn't be more careful" during an inspection, Burke said. "How does anyone, knowing that you're under public scrutiny and everything you do is being evaluated, how do you make these mistakes? I absolutely did not understand. And how were those mistakes not caught by someone in charge?"

But Burke said that the hospital, with its back against the wall, rallied to put in place a plan of correction.

"There was a realization that it was D-Day and obviously everyone pulled together.

"Of course, we're not out of the woods," she said.

At least one expert seconded that observation.

"I'd be concerned that there's adequate resources to fix the problem long-term," said Doug Miller, the assistant vice president and chief of pharmacy for the Grady Health System, which runs public hospitals in Atlanta. Miller reviewed the federal report at the request of The Times.

"I think what King/Drew said is reasonable" about what it can do in the short term, Miller said. "But long-term, I think other systems need to be put in place and their systems need to be upgraded."

He said that some of the problems documented in the report were far less serious than others and indicated people were either rushing to do their jobs or forgetting standard safeguards.

When inspectors return to King/Drew in coming weeks, they also will be following up on a January report that found grave errors that contributed to the deaths of five patients, Chickering said.

At that time, inspectors concluded that nurses had been told to lie about patients' conditions and sometimes neglected seriously ill patients for hours.

Leaf said the hospital would try to reopen unit 4B, a ward where three of the patients died after caregivers failed to respond appropriately when their conditions deteriorated, even though they were attached to cardiac monitors. The ward was closed last year.
 
LA Times

King/Drew Hospital Solutions Sought at Meeting
Congresswoman calls special session on the facility's problems. About 120 officials and activists attend.
By Sue Fox
Times Staff Writer

March 23, 2004

Declaring that she was "tired of looking at these headlines" about Martin Luther King Jr./Drew Medical Center, U.S. Rep. Juanita Millender-McDonald summoned a cadre of health officials to Willowbrook on Monday to explain their plans to solve the hospital's problems.

The result was a 3 1/2-hour session, which was attended by about 120 hospital officials, local residents and others.

One of the most impassioned speeches came from a representative of the federal agency that earlier this month had threatened to withdraw funding from the 233-bed hospital.

"This isn't any hospital. This is a very special place," said Jeff Flick, regional administrator of the U.S. Centers for Medicare and Medicaid Services.

"By God, you built this hospital out of the ashes," he told the audience, referring to the hospital's establishment after the 1965 Watts riots. "And I know you can turn it around and rebuild it!"

Flick's agency had announced that it would suspend $200 million in federal funding if the hospital did not immediately address widespread problems in administering medicine. Federal inspectors found that hospital workers had repeatedly withheld drugs from patients or had given them the wrong medications or dosages.

Inspectors had previously documented serious errors that contributed to the deaths of five patients.

On Friday, federal officials decided to give the county-run hospital more time to remedy its shortcomings. A team of investigators will return to King/Drew in the coming weeks for a top-to-bottom review of patient care, Flick said.

"We are not out of the woods yet," said Millender-McDonald (D-Carson), who represents the area. "We cannot let the people of this community down."

Absent from the proceedings were the five members of the Los Angeles County Board of Supervisors, which oversees the hospital.

Los Angeles City Councilwoman Janice Hahn chastised the county for what she called a long history of understaffing and under-funding the hospital.

"This hospital has been under a microscope," she said. "We know that other hospitals do have problems, that other hospitals do have unexplained deaths."

Dr. Thomas Garthwaite, director of the county's Department of Health Services, said King/Drew had a great reform plan "on paper." The challenge, he said, was in carrying it out.

"I welcome [federal inspectors] coming in because I think it's the only way we can credibly show progress," Garthwaite said later. "We can say we're better, but nobody's going to believe us."

Other leaders from the health department and Charles Drew University, which has trained doctors at the hospital since it opened in 1972, also testified. Several explained the hierarchies of their departments as the crowd began to shift restlessly.

But the audience fell silent as Lillian Mobley, a longtime South L.A. activist, began speaking.

"If the Department of Health Services gave more oversight to Martin Luther King hospital, we wouldn't be in this crisis," she said. "Where was the money, when we've been begging for it? And all of a sudden, we find experts from all over everywhere to come fix things. Where were they before?"
 
Wow. I totally missed the March 20th article. I'm soooo slipping. But that is good news.
 
Good luck on the boards Jalby and thanks for contributing to this forum! :clap:
 
i volunteer at king/drew every week. i went back this week (missed last week) and there were some dramatic changes in the management. the er and wards were totally rearranged, the nurses in charge were totally on top of everyone, the quality and quantity of pt care and nurse-to-pt ratio has drastically gone up, everything little thing was recorded, etc.

i saw big changes with my own eyes!! thats good news...

also, i was walking and there was a letter from the district supervisor (yvonne burke or something) to all the staff and physicians saying how king/drew is so important to the community and it will not be shut down.

and for those of you who dont already know, c drew univ was founded by the Charles Drew Medical Society, USC and UCLA. and fyi if you dont already know, drew does a lot for the community, e.g., king/drew med magnet high school, king/drew/lincoln elementary, educational outreach pipeline program (hundreds of youthg all the way from pre-k to those trying to get into med school), king/drew medical ctr, big time research on diseases that predom effect minorities and underserved (diabetes, HIV, hypertension, etc.), and so on just to name a few. drew's mission is really something special.

okay, im done for now.
 
well said docmemi........:clap: :clap: :clap:
 
im curious to know if there are more acceptances going out soon. has anyone called jeff or dr. aguilera to ask.
 
when did you interview at drew docmemi?
 
december. ...alternate list.
 
how long did it take for you to hear back docmemi? btw, congrats on getting into ucla (geffen)!!!! 🙂
 
thanks volt! i heard when everyone else did, like a couple wks or so ago. so a long time!

i really do think though that there will be a lot of waitlist mvmt. but they are taking their time. only 11 accepts so far. i predict they have already interviewed 270 people by/including today (dec-march=about 6 sessions with 40 each plus some during the week). and they are interviewing many more in the next month or two. that is pretty crazy. yup, its hard to get into drew and quite a few people dont appreciate that! :wow:

when did u interview? good luck and best wishes!
 
Originally posted by docmemi
thanks volt! i heard when everyone else did, like a couple wks or so ago. so a long time!

i really do think though that there will be a lot of waitlist mvmt. but they are taking their time. only 11 accepts so far. i predict they have already interviewed 270 people by/including today (dec-march=about 6 sessions with 40 each plus some during the week). and they are interviewing many more in the next month or two. that is pretty crazy. yup, its hard to get into drew and quite a few people dont appreciate that! :wow:

when did u interview? good luck and best wishes!
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docmeni,
I doubt that they interviewed 240 people so far. They had 28 on dec 18th, 40 on Jan 24th, 40 on Feb 28th, 40 in March. That only adds up to a 148 people. However, I don't know how many more they will be interviewing but I doubt if the total will be more than 200. So our chances should theoretically be better this year.
 
well from what i know they had 3 of those 40 people sessions in march!! if not 3 at least 2 100%. also, they interview during the week, sometimes on wednesdays, for people who cant make it on the weekend. they do a lot of those too...ive seen them.

so thats about 148 + 40 (or 80 for extra marches) + 15 (or 20 during the week) = so something around at least 200 so far. im pretty sure they will go into april also. i can find out though exact numbers sometime next week. historically, they interview 250.

the point is though that its competitive! and i dont know if most people appreciate that. because they are ignorant they look down on drew students without knowing how special they really are.

agree/disagree?
 
Hi docmemi....

I interviewed on February 28th so I know that there is more waiting to do and that's ok! Thanks for your informative posts!!!!! :clap: :idea: :hardy:
 
i like to think of it as:

I don't mind if the accepted applicants are ignorant and do decide to go elsewhere because of that fact. It gives up a spot for someone on the waitlist who values Drew. and moves me up the waitlist one notch 😀

But then again... not many people know what Drew is and what a great place it can be for students (especially outside the LA area)...... If it wasn't for a tutor... I wouldn't have even heard about it.... and wouldn't have done any research on the school nor applied. I'm from NorCal and when you talk about Drew they are like "where is that?? i've never heard of it"

To this day, I still dont' think I know as much as you guys (frequent posters) because I get most of my information from internet, word of mouth and you guys. so i guess I'm also sympathetic to them if they haven't done their research or didn't know anybody connected to Drew.

and thank you guys for your information! It has helped a lot, espeicially since their websites dont' give enough information!
 
Originally posted by Orchid 209
i like to think of it as:

I don't mind if the accepted applicants are ignorant and do decide to go elsewhere because of that fact. It gives up a spot for someone on the waitlist who values Drew. and moves me up the waitlist one notch 😀

But then again... not many people know what Drew is and what a great place it can be for students (especially outside the LA area)...... If it wasn't for a tutor... I wouldn't have even heard about it.... and wouldn't have done any research on the school nor applied. I'm from NorCal and when you talk about Drew they are like "where is that?? i've never heard of it"

To this day, I still dont' think I know as much as you guys (frequent posters) because I get most of my information from internet, word of mouth and you guys. so i guess I'm also sympathetic to them if they haven't done their research or didn't know anybody connected to Drew.

and thank you guys for your information! It has helped a lot, espeicially since their websites dont' give enough information!
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imagine if more people knew!! i think though those that are really committed to and outreach to the underserved and live in the la area will eventually hear about or come across drew. i know many people who know about it but dont even apply because of their ignorance, e.g., "they only accept minorities." hey, their loss.
 
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