anyone hear from Ireland??

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Marianne, meet JimJones 🙂 You two are going to UCD plus Regis's friend. Trinners, P, Coach P and I are going to Trinity which is like 20 minutes away. Glamgirl is going to RCSI, which is 2 seconds from Trinity. We have an SDN contingent!

Regis...AWWWWWWW That is so sweet! If you're willing to spend 2 to 300 dollars, you could definitely deck him/her out with a phone that can handle US frequency. Here's the thing. The phones themselves everywhere else in the world operate on a different frequency than ours. I don't understand why we have to do things differently from everyone else, but that's besides the point. The expensive phones that are made for roaming are tri-band and can handle US frequency. However, I would advise against such an expensive phone for a number of reasons: 1) they are stolen often in Dublin/Ireland 2) it rains a lot in Ireland 3) a common reason of phones breaking is dropping them in the toilet, another peculiarly Irish thing to do heehhe (just kidding) . But really...if this is the person's 1st cell phone, I would advise against getting them such an expensive one. Also, O2 and Vodafone are europe specific unless they want to pay extensive fees for roaming charges, but do you anticipate this person traveling a whole lot in the first couple years?

Hmm. what else could you get? Tell me something more about the activities this person loves to do...the hobbies, if there's any one thing this person is passionate about.
 
JMD, I agree with Coach P. While they seem to like some sort of research, I am sure not all Americans and Canadians who've gotten in have done research as undergrads, or have had publications. I personally did a research internship at CWRU summer of sophomore year, then went to Trinity for JYA, then came back senior year and worked the whole year through now in the same lab. I've had an abstract published and a journal article pending publication where I am not first author, and I'll probably have another pending publication as 2nd author. So...you don't really need to have achieved a whole lot publication-wise. You have a good GPA...they also base offerings on the strength of your personal essay. I wouldn't start research just on the basis of trying to get into a particular school, but if you're interested in it and want to participate in some research, now might be a good time to start looking. However, if you're not inclined towards research, don't do it just to "look good." I am sure you have other unique and valuable experiences to apply with!

There is a small fridge (it ain't that big), and the rooms I saw (goldsmith) had a microwave, but I'm not sure if it came with or if the tenants brought it. It just comes with the bare essentials. Stove, sink, fridge, maybe microwave and that's it. But the other stuff isn't hard to get...hotpot/kettle, cutting board, cutlery, etc. If your roommates are in Ireland, maybe they can bring some stuff from home.
 
stupid pathetic question that'll make me look like a loser 🙂. Do they have dsl or broadband or cable connection in Ireland? 🙂 I know trinity has ethernet, but I meant available for the community in general.

Thanks 🙂
 
DSL (eircom I-Stream solo) is really expensive and not widely available yet in Ireland (it's a long long story but its caught up in telecoms regulatory hassles - basically the ex-state monopoly phone company, eircom, is being a pain in the ass about it). Initial connection is about EUR 200 and rental is over EUR 100 a month for a 3 gig download allowance with each extra meg costing 3.6c. There's more info on www.eircom.ie

Cable access with NTL isn't widely available and is probably very costly too.

The good news is that the LAN in Trinity is pretty good! Although you can't use AIM, MSN, telnet, IRC, FTP etc etc because of the firewall.
 
awww geez. Dialup it is. DSL usually runs for around 40-50 per month here after initial activation, but what happens is there's like 4 people in the house and they all split it equally so each person only pays $10 for dsl. Maybe in the next 5 years as dsl becomes more mainstream there, the prices will come down a bit. But I guess it's dialup for me....rats. Unless I'm lucky enough to be in Trinity. Then I'm unlucky enough to be behind the firewall. I-cafe's for me 🙂. Or I wonder if it'll let you do AIM express.
 
Hi all!

does anyone know if i can purchase a gsm phone in the US or Canada and have it activated in Ireland? (with vodafone for example).

im thinking of getting a cell phone as a gift for a friend going to ireland... because she was telling me they don't get a phone in res...
she will likely be staying in ireland most of the time, and not travelling around much... and i dont really want to commit her to paying a monthly fee... so i was thinking about one of the pay as you go plans... with a good, moderately priced phone (like the Nokia 3310... Euro 159).

i know the rates to call the north america are pretty hefty on the plans offered by most european carriers, but this will at least allow her friends from back home to call her 🙂

Does anyone know if there are any restrictions on receiving international calls on a cellular phone in ireland? I know that some US and Canadian carriers don't allow you to receive a call from outside North America... anything like this Europe?

I konw these are a lot of questoins, but the vodafone and O2 websites dont have any answers to these!!!

thanks for any help!!!!
 
The GSM frequency in Europe, Africa, Asia and Australia (900, 1800) is different to the GSM frequency in the US (1900) so a US GSM phone won't work in Ireland. You can get "tri-band" phones but they tend to be expensive. Often mobile companies lock their phones to their network or else hard-wire the SIM into the phone...so it isn't always easy to use phones on different networks.

With O2 and vodafone pay-as-you-go you can receive calls from anywhere. The only situation where you'd pay for receiving a call is if someone calls your mobile in Ireland and you are abroad with your phone. Roaming with pay-as-you-go phones is pretty simple now but it works out *really* expensive for voice but it's resonably cheap for text messages.
 
just wanted to see if this thing is posting my messages... because i can't see the last one i posted... +pissed+
 
Hey Leorl - you can actually connect to AIM from the LAN in Trinity. Now you'll be able to get your daily fix during term here 😉
 
:::gasp gasp::::wheeze::::: thank god 😉. Now I only have to get a room 😉.

This is gonna sound silly, but as I remember them, I keep thinking of things that are slightly different that threw me off guard at first.

Around the time we go back (october/november) it starts getting dark at 4 pm....way earlier than most of us are used to. Sometimes I wish i could get a lightbox like those people with that seasonal mood disorder do. But the payoff is that come spring and summer time, it won't get dark until even as late as 11 pm....and it'll get sunny at 4 am.

When we get there...besides the little group of us going, and besides the people we meet in class....the best way to get friends and meet people is to join their clubs/societies. And I don't mean the biology/medical society, although that is kinda fun to have peach schnopps shot at you through a syringe. Pick something that you've always been interested in...there's tons of clubs. I'm obviously rowing, and that's gonna take all my time. I also did windsurfing for a bit but discovered I don't like to spend my whole day freezing my arse off.
 
Hey LeorL...I am thinking of playing rugby or boxing...I have decide. I played college football in the US and rugby in Australia, so I am thinking I would like to learn a little more about the game. Do you know if they have teams for someone in the earlier stages of learning? Fill me in.

=)
-paul
 
I have decide?spoken like a true football player?sorry, I have TO decide. I actually picked Trinity because they have better sports teams?I eat red meat and drink 24/7. Aghhh the epitome of a meathead?I guess I am not helping the stereotype with posts like that.
 
Hmm, their rugby is rather competitive so I'm not sure if they have something on a more "learning" level...however, if you've played in AUS...then go for it! You might not make their 1st team, but they have 3rd or even 4th teams I think. I'd love to learn how to play actually, i really like watching and some of my US friends play...one of them is being recruited for the national women's team. Might as well go for it!!

I don't know about boxing...I think there might be a club but don't know how often and if they they compete heavily.

Do me a favor, bring your football for the sake of the US contingent cuz there will be times ya just miss a good ol' two hand tag game 😉 .

Hmm...P must be pretty beefy... ::😛okes P's biceps::::

Btw...they don't eat all that much red meat, you'll come back and go to Vegas or something for summer break and see all those steaks and prime ribs in their buffets and be like "Good god, that's disgusting!" (I went to vegas the week after returning to Trinity and was really grossed out). Oh yeah, and another thing to mention. When you go there at first, you'll probably seem to eat a ton cuz their meal portion sizes are a lot smaller than ours (they eat way less). Eventually your body will get used to it, but the first couple weeks you'll be hungry like...all the time. For instance, their standard yogurt cup size is about half ours. When you come home for christmas and go to your neighborhood Krogers for the first time you'll be like "god, everything's massive!" However, Glamgirl makes beef stew so we can all pile into her place for dinner 😉. hee hee. Generally, they also eat only one big meal a day ... if they have a big lunch (which can also be called a dinner), then they'll have a sandwich for dinner. Problem for me cuz I eat like 6 big meals a day hehe 🙂 (just kidding)
 
DUCAC (Dublin University Central Athletics Club) oversees all the sports clubs in College: http://www.tcd.ie/Clubs/DUCAC/

and P - yes there is a boxing club.

Other College societies are overseen by the CSC (Central Societies Committee): http://www.csc.tcd.ie/

Leorl is fairly accurate about the food thing - Irish people don't eat anywhere near the amounts that Americans eat. I demonstrated physiology pracs to 2nd Meds this year and some of the big American guys were losing weight cause they weren't eating the same amount compared to home!
 
I thought I'd post this excerpt from a Medical School Guide for US students in Trinity which was on studyingmedicine.com (which seems to be down at the moment). It's about the cultural differences in Trinity and the "do it yourself" attitude towards tertiary education in Ireland. It's fairly accurate (and applicable to the other med schools in Ireland as well) and worth a read if you're coming here this October or thinking about it for next year....


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You have to do it yourself. That?s the biggest difference many students notice at Trinity (and in all of Ireland). You can get a fine education, but you have to expend more effort. The fact that you were willing to come to Ireland to pursue your education is a good sign that you are independent, motivated and mature enough to succeed here.
Things have improved in the past 5 years since Trinity began admitting larger groups of North American students, both in the quality of the course and the administration?s awareness of our needs. You will quickly find, however, that life in Ireland has a different pace from life in North America. For example, you won?t have a course schedule or syllabus until classes start (whereas you are probably used to having one two weeks before the semester started back home). Dates of final exams will often be announced as the exams approach, not at the beginning of the year. Don?t push ? people get offended and more walls go up. Be polite and ask questions, and your needs will be met.
You may also find that you are given only as much attention as any ?undergraduate? course at Trinity. Lecturers in the preclinical years are busy and sometimes preoccupied with research. You will feel at times that the courses lack focus and direction, or that you don?t know exactly what you are supposed to be reading. The Irish refer to this lack of attention as ?not being spoon fed?. Call it what you like, but realize you have to take the initiative to get things done. This is not, however, a reason to be discouraged about the quality of medical training here. The other side of this coin is that you will do particularly well in your courses if you put some extra effort into understanding the material and picking up more information than what is given in lecture. To be positive about it, this is good practice for a career that requires lifelong independent learning. Just as with any experience, you will get out of it exactly what you put into it.

Nose to the Grindstone? Do you remember your sophomore year in college? Well, your Irish classmates are experiencing that now. Going straight from high school to medical school means that many students in the Second Medical Year are determined to enjoy college life as well as learn medicine. ?Going for a pint? is as much a part of the accepted medical student routine as any lecture or lab time. Irish students are used to relaxing all year, then cramming (?swotting?) for two weeks before finals, and acing exams that way.
Given their eagerness to enjoy college and their variable study habits, they may be surprised to find out that you were studying on a Tuesday night with no exam for two months. Everyone has their own approach, but the best plan is to do 4-5 hours of work per night, and 5 or 6 hours on Saturday or Sunday, all year long. For most people, this is enough time to keep up with all the lecture material and still have time to take off one night and one weekend day each week to hit the pubs or relax. This approach is much less stressful and more effective than trying to cram eight months worth of anatomy, biochemistry and physiology into the last two weeks in May.
How competitive is the course? Irish universities have a strictly merit-based admissions policy, and medicine is the most desired subject in the country. This means that Irish medical students are typically highly intelligent, and their high school science courses prepare them for medical school in a way that U.S. high schools can only envy. Despite their fine high school background, this is their first college experience. Your distinct advantage over here is that you have already finished a college degree and have learned how to study efficiently. Use it!
Despite the demands on your time, it?s also extremely helpful to join a college club or society to meet people and maintain balance. Don?t sacrifice every bit of your personal life to the Altar of Medicine; you are expected to be a human being as well as a future physician. Those who integrate into life in Ireland have a great time. Those who do not integrate can have a miserable five years. (Don?t take this too far though; you won?t get into a residency by saying, ?At least I had a good time.?)

The year ahead: Trinity College has a reputation for good clinical instruction. From what we have experienced so far, each year seems to be better than the last. Throughout the course, Trinity strongly emphasizes self-directed learning, meaning you are required to do a lot of independent reading without the safety net of a highly detailed syllabus. The medical school also seems to operate on a sort of ?inverse care law? ? those who are the most hapless (1st, 2nd and 3rd Meds), receive the least resources and guidance. However, do not be discouraged. Third Med begins to seem clinically relevant and even enjoyable. By 4th Med you will be treated like (and feel like) medical students rather than undergraduates, and by 5th Med most of us were impressed with the personalized instruction we received. The Final (6th) Medical Year is an excellent system of clinical training, and it will make a qualified, competent physician out of you when you finally get there.
The biggest advantage to studying medicine in Ireland, however, is the Irish people themselves. The Irish medical school environment is much less ?cut-throat? than those you might find in other countries. While there is some personal and national pride at stake when grades come out, cooperation and camaraderie are the norm. During the clinical years, you?ll find that Irish patients love talking to students (sometimes for longer than you would like) and are almost always willing to let you ?practice medicine? on them. This translates into endless opportunities to perfect your skills of history taking and physical examination, which will give you a valuable foundation for your future career.
 
studyingmedicine.com

i remember going to this website and seeing the guide they had for north americans which was really informative..i noticed you were quoting from it...i was wondering if you have it on file for me?

could you please send it over?

thanks!
 
ceeepz - sent it to ya just there.... 🙂

I hope they revive that website for the begining of term - if properly run it could be really useful.
 
Hey LeorL...not so much beefy as quick...yes, I as well eat about 8 meals a day. Maybe I will make my special...foot and mouth chicken caserole...we also have the mad cow stir fry...a New England classic. 😉 Watch out. I am excited to do some athletics there...that should be a good time! I just hope I can balance that with my course load...did it in college, hopefully things haven't changed in two years.
I have to find a ticket this week...that is my mission. Hummmm.
Ok, I have started thinking out loud on SDN...it's time to go.

-p

ps Leorl...this may sound like an odd request, but do you know anything about singing at Trinity? I do a little Choir singing and would like to continue.
 
I have a UCD question. Can any current (I don't know how many of you are on SDN) or future UCD meds tell me anything about the new, organ-based curriculum at UCD? How much has it/will it change, and how is it working out? The idea of organ-based curriculum really appeals to me, so it is possible that this will become a factor for me in evaluating schools (a + for Aussie schools). Also, are there signs that any of the other Irish schools (UCC, Trinitiy) will be doing major curriculum overhauls in the near future?
Thanks,
JMD
 
Hey guys,

Just adding myself to the "Those going to UCD in September" list. Also, if you have any questions about Europe, culture shock, and where to visit, don't hesitate to ask. I'm an English/American who grew up in Europe, studied in the States and came back
 
Hey Leorl/Trinners/P and the rest of the gang,
I'm having that log in problem again +pissed+so while I wait for them to rectify the problem we are going to see a new series of Coach P's everyday .
I remember someone mentioning that the gym facilities at Trinity weren't the best. I realize that they are doing something about this but how bad are they at the moment. Does it get really crowded?. Also how far is it from GMB?. If anyone needs a lifting partner I'm there !
Trinners,my tutor's name is Dr Sharma. He has seemed really nice so far. I think our classes start Oct 2nd. So do we start our cadaver dissections the same day?. Also how many students to a cadaver etc?. One of my faculty members here who graduated from Trinity back in the late 80's told me it was about 6 to a cadaver. He also advised that they didn't get scrubs so they wore their worst clothes into anatomy.However ,Trinners I'm sure you can give us the latest update.

In other news, I bought my ticket yesterday!. I'll be there on the 27th at 11:15am
:clap:
What's the cheapest/convenient way to get to Trinity from the airport. I'll will have a ton of luggage however 😱

If anyone else is coming in that weekend besides P let's plan to
get together for the 1st official SDN meeting!. I'm so excited. Anyone play Tennis?. I used to play in school and for a while at college.
cheers,
 
Hey Coach P- the main College campus is really compact so nothing is particularly far apart. As for gym facilities they are pretty crap. The plans for new sports facilities in the North East Corner of the campus have been shelved for various unknown reasons which is a pity. I don't really know how busy it gets as I've probably only been there twice in my 5 years here...I'm more of a swimmer... Leorl prolly knows more about it than me...

As far as I'm aware the first week in October is registration and Freshers Week. Lecturers begin 7th October. I've no clue about the anatomy classes...

The cheapest way from the airport to Trinity is on the AirCoach (EUR 5) - it drops you right at Front Arch.

HTH! 🙂
 
P... a beefy football playing choir boy??? how intruiging 🙂. Yes, they do have a choir but I don't know how good it is. I would assume fairly decent, as the music department at Trinity is not too shabby. I don't know too much about their music program or their standards.

The gym...leaves a lot to be desired. A revamp is in the works, but won't happen for quite some time. They have enough to get by I guess, but it's not a lot. The 2nd floor has the changing rooms and a tiny weights room...it has three treadmills and two ergs, and a couple machines (bench press, squat, quads, hamstrings, etc.) Then you go upstairs and there's another tiny weight room with free weights and bars/benches. So there's enough for you to work what you need, but it's not optimal and it's kinda crammed in. And it can get really busy. And frequently, some guys don't use deodorant, and the smell lingers during busy times. (sorry to gross you out). But honestly, as kinda outdated as the weights are, they're not that bad. They're still in tact. As a matter of fact, they are better than CWRU's weights. Even though CWRU has a nice gym facility, I wouldn't use those weights for anything cuz of injury possibilities...some of their machines even have seats falling/torn off and stuff, so TCD's are a bit better.

Yeah i don't know the class schedule, but i'm definitely going for non-heavily populated times (mid afteroon or early morning). Oh yeah, one of my teammates and I were lifting there once, and this guy is like "heh, what are you gals training so hard for" like we should be worried for our safety or something. We were like "we're fitter than you so F off". They can still be surprised that women spend as much time on their bodies as men.

Okay let's see. The gym is like 2 seconds from the GMB 🙂. Well okay, in reality...3 minutes.

Okay, i propose a plan. How about all the US students get scrubs so there will at least be a contingent of us in scrubs? Because i've already wasted a couple tshirts in previous anatomy labs that I threw away, and don't really have a desire to waste more, and I won't be bringing over crappy shirts. Plus, i've always wanted scrubs 🙂

I am going over Sept. 25th, so i'll be there when you arrive 🙂.

JMD, I haven't heard anything about curriculum changes at the other schools, and honestly, i kinda doubt they'll happen in the near future unless it turns out to be a raging success at UCD.

HA! foot and mouth casserole. Hmm. that wasn't quite so fun. They cancelled a lot of our races and we weren't allowed to train for awhile because they closed the park that our boathouse is in. It was kinda fun walking over the squishy mats though. And when I was in london, there was a club that named one of their boats "The Mad Cow - BSE"
 
Hey Leorl/Trinners,
Thanks for the info on the gym. Guys sans deo in a confined place does sound terribly gross but I guess we'll just have to find times to avoid them. I was imagining something far worse though. So the update does come as a relief!
So what's the latest with your housing situation?. Did sending in that supplemental info make a difference?. I remember Peter Nealon telling me that all accepted NAmerican students get housing on campus! 🙄 .Hope things work out for you!.

I'm in favor of us wearing scrubs too. P and I might be bringing over some wacky shirts to break the ice. However, this will be done after we figure out how strict our professors are!. I certainly don't want to end up looking like the token idiot..I know.it's probably too late already 😀

Looking forward to getting together with you and the rest of the gang.I'll send you my room no etc closer to when we leave .Perhaps you could give me the tour since you have been there before!.
cheers,
S
 
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So what's the latest with your housing situation?. Did sending in that supplemental info make a difference?. I remember Peter Nealon telling me that all accepted NAmerican students get housing on campus! 🙄 .Hope things work out for you!.

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Um, WHAT!!! Okay, time to pop off a letter to atlantic bridge. I haven't gone through atlantic bridge for any housing stuff, i've been contacting the housing office directly but never mentioned i was admitted through AB. As far as whether the supplemental info helped, I don't know. Probably not...because they were supposed to do another round in early August. Well it's early August, and still not a word...and next week is mid august 🙂
 
Hey Leorl,
I contacted the "accommodations office" at Trinity as well but I made it a point to tell them every time I spoke to them that I had applied through the AB program. I subsequently contacted Peter Nealon and he told me that all of us accepted through the AB are given housing.

Now that we are on the subject of housing.What's living in the dorms at Trinity like?.I think it mentioned that although I have a single room it is ensuite??.So do the rooms open out into a common kitchen area?. Is the housing coed?.Sorry had to ask😉 . Do they primarily stick international students together or is the whole thing utterly random?. Are you allowed to have overnight "guests"?. I don't want to get in trouble with the registrar of chambers🙂
 
Hey coach p 🙂

Okay, regarding the housing...Peter Nealon sent me an emphatic NO when I asked if all AB applicants were guaranteed housing. So I don't know what he told you, but sounds like it could be conflicting. I emailed the accommodations office anyway about it, so we'll see.

Where are you again? GMB or Goldsmith? I'm not quite sure about GMB, but I know guests need to sign in and there's kind of a curfew cutoff time, I think. I can't remember. I don't know how the rooms are set up in the GMP, but maybe similar... I'm not sure..you might have more of an open shared living room or something.

Goldsmith...there's a suite. Each person has a single, and there are like 5 singles. They don't open into a common room, but all rooms are off a small little hallway. The common room pretty much is the kitchen space..there's a door that opens into it, so it's not open at all. The singles themselves...aren't very roomy, but it'll do i guess. You have to be creative with your unpacking. Each suite isn't coed, but the suites in the particular buildings are coed. So maybe you'll have a girl's suite on the floor beneath you or the one next to yours or something.

However, again...i don't really know about the GMB. If it's anything like the ones in Front Square, then your bedroom will actually feel like a bedroom with a decent amount of space, and good-sized rooms for a living/dining room.
 
Hello Everyone,

Now that I know my posts work I thought that I'd say hello to all of you and tell you that I will be joining you guys in Ireland at UCD. I will be in the six year program since I have just graduated from highschool and do not have an undergraduate degree. Although I have done some college courses during summers. I was just wondering how many of you are taking laptops over with you or if you think its maybe better to buy a laptop over in Ireland? Just curious... Also do any of you know how we can get internet connections in our rooms, I know the school doesn't have it hooked up but maybe wireless??? Welll I'll keep in touch, thanks for any info you might have for me.
 
Hey Christina - it's probably cheaper to get a laptop in the US. Compare prices at www.dell.ie and see which works out best...

In Trinity, if someone is staying over you have to sign them in at the porter's lodge in Front Arch before 8pm. It's just a formality but you have to do it if you are returning to College after midnight. At midnight the gates to College are locked and you have to present your ID card and room key to the porter to get in. If you have someone with you, they'll check to see you signed them in. There is no messing with the porters...turn up plastered and give them hassle and you'll be before the Junior Dean the next morning.
 
Trinners,

as you're in Dublin, you may be able to answer my question:

I'm most likely living in Belfield but my classes are at UCD med school in Dublin. Do you suggest I get a bike or take the bus (I know that bike thieves are notorious there, but I need the exercise)

thanks😀
 
Christina, I don't know about UCD, but in general...if they do not have connections in the rooms, then you will not be able to go wireless. Going wireless requires a wireless access point or a router to be connected to an ethernet/broadband/dsl line. The accessories for setting wireless up can run from $150 to $500 dollars. Plus, you have to get a wireless ethernet/network card for your computer, another $50-$80. Also, you'd probably be better off buying a computer here in the US (laptop), as most computer headquarters are based here. Dell has an Irish center, so if anything goes wrong it'd be easier to fix... (if it goes wrong which it probably won't). Some of the other companies HP also have international sites...my HP broke (well, my sister dropped it) when i was in Dublin, and we had it sent off but it ended up going somewhere in Norway and being a huge hassle.

Laptops are great though because you can park yourself in the library and do your essays or whatever. Their computers are strictly for looking up books, and not many...if any...have word processing programs. Plus, there's usually a queue to use them and the ones with the internet connections. Having a laptop is very convenient.
 
Thank-you everyone for the info about the laptops, I was worried about which one I should get and if I should even get one at all, but I think I am going to get the dell, especially since they have a headquarters in dublin. I might wait until Christmas though.

Ilovetocut, As far as having a bike in dublin, I wouldn't advise it. For two reasons: One the thieves and secondly the amount of congestion on the roads and sidewalks. I lived in Ireland a few years ago and if its the same as what I remember I'd be afraid to ride on the road for fear of my life and the sidewalks well I'm saying they are probably worse than the road. So hey, if you are catching the bus, I'll join you! 🙂 By the way, are you in the five year or six year program?
 
Dear Christina,

5 year program (did my undergad in the States)
Can't wait....😎
 
It's not the safest...but I'm definitely getting a bike in Dublin. Drudging up fare every time I want to go to training gets really annoying. It's either that or running/walking the 45 min to islandbridge eveyr time. However, I have to say I might be tempted into renting a scooter for a week. Wouldn't that be so much fun 🙂
 
Hey Leorl,
An emphatic No huh?? 😡 Sketchy ...very sketchy!I remember Peter Nealon distinctly saying that applying for housing was a mere formality. Anyways, I hope things fall into place for you.This is one thing you shouldn't really have to worry about 🙂

I have been assigned a single room in the GMB. After living in my apt for 2 years, I was just curious to know what dorm life in Dublin was going to be like.Perhaps Trinners(being the Trinity vet that he is!) would be able to give me a peek into what life in the GMB is like.

Welcome to the AB/SDN contingent Ilovetocut and Christina
cheers,
S
 
Hey...did anyone find out loan information yet regarding Stafford Loans etc??? I am still waiting to hear back about that jazz. I bought my ticket today...560, round trip from Boston to Dublin. I arrive Sept 27 at 8 am...watch out Ireland. I set the return date as the 19th of December and hope I don't have to change it, but we will see. Anyhew, hope this post finds everyone well. Anyone esle getting excited...it is coming up fast!!
-p
 
I'm sure 19th Dec will be OK - after all we need a decent break for Christmas!!

You sound really psyched about starting!! 😀
 
I just want to say congratulations to all of you who will be heading off to Ireland within the next couple of months. I must say that I am quite jealous, but hopefully I will be planning my flights, housing, etc a year from now.
Oh, and even though all of you are going to be hotshot medical students 😉, you better find some time to let all of the "Ireland hopefuls" on SDN know how you are doing. Best of luck!
 
ditto! you guys are going to have so much fun in ireland. good luck!
 
This might have been discussed already, but I am curious to know what makes everyone want to go to Ireland? Do you have any interests in US schools? Just curious. I think Ireland would be a blast! Good luck!
 
My situation was a little different. I participated in my school's junior year abroad program at Trinity College. Why I picked there in the first place, is actually kinda boring. My sis and I wanted an English-speaking school, as we can't really speak any other language 🙂. Australia was out because the backwards season screwed up trying to cross-correspond classes, plus we'd theoretically have had to leave the 2nd semester of our sophomore year, and we didn't want to go over only for a semester. England we thought was rather cold/dreary and not as exciting as the other places, so we chose Ireland over Scotland.

Had the most brilliant time there I have ever had in my life. It was the best decision we've ever made, I made more lasting friendships at Trinity than I did in 3 years of college here. So anyway, I didn't exactly plan things right. I was going to try to take the MCAT in Brighton, England during my year in Ireland...and it didn't really work...I couldn't bring myself to study. I had tried takign the MCAT summer after sophomore year, but I hadn't had physics yet and found that trying to teach myself physics was not the best idea. And then it was too late to prepare for the august mcat when I came home from dublin in July.

So I ended up taking my MCAT April my senior year. This meant that I'd have to delay going to med school for the year after I graduated, so going to a US school would have required the same amount of time as it would for me to go abroad. I didn't really wanna bum around for a year, since I felt guilty for having bummed around in Dublin (my parents were laying a guilt trip on us), plus the opportunity to go abroad again was awesome. After seeing how their education system worked - how they prioritize school and get their stuff done but also have time for extracurriculars and partying, I didn't think I could be entirely happy at a US school. I'm a rower and it really takes an extraordinary amount of time to train, and I wanted to continue it through med school...I wouldn't be able to do it if I stayed here. Trinity really has a world-class team, my best friends from ireland are rowers, and there's plenty of partying going on too 🙂. I wanted to enjoy life more. And come on, it's europe!!! The city is amazing - quite cosmopolitan and can be sophisticated, it's very neat making international friends...some of whom know more about America than I do, and their completely different culture/outlook is refreshing. My parents liked it because Trinity is really quite a famous college internationally, and tuition is cheaper for us there than it is to attend a private college in the US (and if I stayed in the US, it would mostly likely have been at a private med school).

So yah, we may have some anxiety etc. when we come back (if we come back), but...I don't care. It's worth it. And sorry, didn't mean to tell you my whole life story.
 
Leorl,

WOW! That was a great story and you are on a great path. I have been to Ireland before, seng that I am Irish, and loved it. I never gave thought to going to school there though. Do they have a dental school? 🙂 So do you think you will come back to the states to practice medicine? How is the medical system over there? What do your parents think about your decision? Those are just a few things I am curious about. I have a bunch more questions though. Anyways, take care and keep us posted on things.

- Centrum
 
Oh yeah, how do costs compare? Is it a lot more expensive then the states?
 
Hey Centrum, there's two dental schools in Ireland- Trinity and UCC in Cork. Trinity takes NA students for denistry and I'm sure UCC does too...

I'm not sure if you can apply to dental schools in Ireland through the Atlantic Bridge but I'm sure someone else will clarify.

There's more info about Irish dental schools at the Irish Universities and Medical Schools Consortium website: http://www.ucc.ie/iumc/
 
Thanks for the info.
 
Right now the plan is to come back to the US. I'm not sticking to this 100% cuz who knows where i'll want to practice, but for right now, i'm saying I'm coming back. And I'll doo the boards and everything. The med system is tough there...it is the course that requires the highest number of points on their leaving cert. It's intense, but how so I'm not sure yet cuz...i'm not there yet 🙂

My parents were okay with it. Especially since I had done the year abroad before. My dad wasn't that thrilled, but eh, whatever. I just told them I couldn't really see myself being happy staying here, and that this is where I wanted to go. They like the name of it, anyway. And to my mother, it just means another place she gets to visit . My parents have always been traveling people, so they understand the whole not really wanting to stick to one place thing. I think they're also a little guilty because they forced my sister and I to attend an undergrad that we weren't very happy at.

They do have dental programs 😉. I have friends in the TCD dental program, but they're irish. I don't know the procedure about getting an application, but I bet you could email their office directly.

Feel free to ask your questions 😉!
 
Thats cool. So how do the costs compare to schools in the states? Out of curiosity on the medical side, this is probably in this thread somewhere, but how many foreign students on average are accepted to the Irish medical schools? What are the average stats of those accepted? GPA, MCAT etc. Are they welcoming to American students or just indifferent? What else. Oh yeah, how do people in the US look at the medical education you will receive in Ireland? Is it pretty tough to match into a program over here? I think I will actually e-mail the school about their dental program. Couldn't hurt. OK, those are my questions for now. Look forward to hearing from you. :clap:
 
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