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Are these trips available for summer pre-MS1?
Are these trips available for summer pre-MS1?
unite for sight is grrrrrrrrrrrrreat!!
http://www.uniteforsight.org/intl_volunteer
the greatest experiences of my life. ive done two so far. third time this summer.
you dont just take photos. you do a lot every day. there are journals and stuff on the web site from hundreds of volunteers who have volunteered. theres also videos.
Yes, it is called medical tourism. Yes, premeds can go. No, it isn't that big of a deal, unless you get your picture taken with lots of DABs.
Well, it's the term used most frequently on SDN to describe it. Just like how "gunner" has another definition to most people.That is not medical tourism. Im pretty sure medical tourism is when people from one country seek medical care in another country because of lower prices, better care, etc...
But then how would everyone meet the DAB quotient?! I was planning on going over and stacking them like cordwood and posing for a picture so I could claim to be more altruistic and more dedicated to helping my fellow man than any other premed; I could point to the pictures and say "SEE! I very carefully stacked 45 DABs into a very neat and tidy pyramid! How dare you question my motivations for practicing medicine!".Question: would it not be easier to take the money that transports self-aggrandizing pre-meds to Zambia and use it to train locals to do the jobs volunteers do? That way, they improve eyesight + help out with local economy. That's what Doctors without Borders do -- they train locals to do everything except actual medicine, which is what volunteers do.
I realize that means less fodder for personal statements, but it might be a better investment.
You're correct.That is not medical tourism. Im pretty sure medical tourism is when people from one country seek medical care in another country because of lower prices, better care, etc...
Yes, it is called medical tourism. Yes, premeds can go. No, it isn't that big of a deal, unless you get your picture taken with lots of DABs.
Question: would it not be easier to take the money that transports self-aggrandizing pre-meds to Zambia and use it to train locals to do the jobs volunteers do? That's what Doctors without Borders do -- they train locals to do everything except actual medicine, which is what volunteers do.
I realize that means less fodder for personal statements, but it might be a better investment.
hey there,
i read your posts often and they are great, not sure sometimes what's serious and what's not. Can you please seriously tell me what this photo is about. i am desperately looking for a volunteer (or paid) international project to do if i decide to take yet another year off. Please either post serious info or PM me.
medical tourism is people from the us who go to india to get back surgery or plastic surgery or whatever. it's a lot cheaper in india and they are tourists lying on the beach. medical tourism is not overseas volunteering.....duh. it's tourists getting medical care for themselves
ah, so that's what he's talking about, and here i just thought all businesses did their transactions out of India because it's cheaper. i don't think i'd ever go over there for surgery. isn't that what insurance is for?
Do you have any medical training that would make you useful other than as a gofer? If yes, I can recommend a couple of groups that I know people who are affiliated with them. If no, may I recommend you find a free clinic in the states to become affiliated with as you will get far more out of it and learn much more.hey there,
i read your posts often and they are great, not sure sometimes what's serious and what's not. Can you please seriously tell me what this photo is about. i am desperately looking for a volunteer (or paid) international project to do if i decide to take yet another year off. Please either post serious info or PM me.
the Red Magen David
if you go with a quality organization then you dont do medical care if youre not a doctor.
You do if you're not your average premed and have skills the doctors rely upon- i.e. respiratory care, etc. I'm going to try to head to Peru sometime within the next year or so (I was supposed to go in April but there was a scheduling conflict due to a friend's wedding) and the reason I was invited to go along was because they want an RT for post-op and emergency cases.
hey, i was actually thinking about doing unite for sight! how cool! i was actually wondering how you raised the money and got all the glasses?
I wasn't speaking strictly of the membership of SDN, but rather the "average" college student premed I've met. I know there are several RN's, at least two RT's, more than a few paramedics, at least one SLP, and a couple of PT's in the premed forums....but they are exceptions to the rule.
And yes, I'm a fully credentialed and licensed RT in the US and have been in that field since 2001. I'm also qualified as an echocardiographer and have been in EMS since 1996.
anyone with passion and dedication can do a lot to help many people.
It's not that they are involving themselves, it's that they think if they go on a medical mission they will be improving their application and therefore it is their reasons for going that I take issue with.involving themselves in some way to do something good
True....you can dig wells, you can run and get supplies for those of us who can actually treat patients beyond taking vitals and burying DAB's, and making sure we have coffee when we need it.
It's not that they are involving themselves, it's that they think if they go on a medical mission they will be improving their application and therefore it is their reasons for going that I take issue with.
I know international health involves more than that- when you are talking about people who are there for more than photo ops and have the skills to back it up.
I think so....I just get tired of the kids on here thinking they are hot **** because they went to Timbuktu and saw poor people and maybe did something that borders on healthcare.
I think so....I just get tired of the kids on here thinking they are hot **** because they went to Timbuktu and saw poor people and maybe did something that borders on healthcare.
i agree
you need think about what skills youve got and how you can help. and youd better have right intentions. no one should go because they want to take pictures and improve their application. its hard living in developing world conditions. if theyre going for the wrong reasons theyre going to have a rough time. because youre not just going to be sitting at the pool and then going outside to take some pictures.
well that brings us back to why youve got to find responsible orgs where youve got to go through a lot in order to even go. like send an application and not just book a trip and pay money. those organizations that do that are irresponsible and are promoting a totally inappropriate view of volunteering.
what's all this business about taking pictures?
and that's why i keep asking; i want legitimate organizations who actually need help and do good for underserved or needy people.
maybe some of us would actually like to learn more and help out in whatever way we can. we have to start somewhere and learn and advance.
Please be a bit more humble and not put down those of us looking for experience and for the opportunity to help out others
what's all this business about taking pictures?
Then why do you have to go overseas? We have more than sufficient numbers of those here. Is there something about having to get a stamp on your passport and enduring a transoceanic flight that makes it more meaningful?and that's why i keep asking; i want legitimate organizations who actually need help and do good for underserved or needy people
there are 6 billion people on earth. theyre all humans. we should help everyone we can.
True......basic rule of triage: greatest good for the greatest number. Imagine how many people you can help in the time one spends flying from America to Bangothedrumsofdarknessia Africa!
Imagine I'm passing my time while on call for a fire department *gasp!* and I don't make the pics myself.imagine how many people you could help instead of adding "funny" lines to photos with photoshop
Honestly, donate the money you were going to spend on your premed "vacation" and give it to a local free clinic or to a physician's group that goes on these trips. They can make a real difference, you can't since you don't have the medical training yet. All pre-meds are going to do is attempt to practice medicine without a license. Instead, try volunteering in your own community.
Honestly, donate the money you were going to spend on your premed "vacation" and give it to a local free clinic or to a physician's group that goes on these trips. They can make a real difference, you can't since you don't have the medical training yet. All pre-meds are going to do is attempt to practice medicine without a license. Instead, try volunteering in your own community.
I wasn't speaking strictly of the membership of SDN, but rather the "average" college student premed I've met. I know there are several RN's, at least two RT's, more than a few paramedics, at least one SLP, and a couple of PT's in the premed forums....but they are exceptions to the rule.
And yes, I'm a fully credentialed and licensed RT in the US and have been in that field since 2001. I'm also qualified as an echocardiographer and have been in EMS since 1996.
I'll PM you.Greetings Dropkick:
I hate to interrupt this battle about pre-meds going to Africa (I have an opinion about that, but lets save it for another post), but I noticed that you really want to go to Lima and use your RT skills and I am aware of your neonatal skills and interest.
So, lets merge these and give you something really great to write about on SDN instead of having this useless battle.
In Lima, there is an incredible hospital, nicknamed "La Maternidad", more formally known as the "Institute Nacional Materno Perinatal"
http://www.iemp.gob.pe/
They deliver a lot of babies each year and I do mean a lot....Most of them the highest risk babies in all of Peru.
How do I know this? Well, about twice a year for the last 6 years I've gone there to teach neonatology including neonatal respiratory management. I have pictures to prove it but won't post them here.
I happen to know that they would benefit from more formal training in neonatal respiratory management such as a well-trained group of RT's from the US could provide. For example, the use of sIMV, pressure support, tidal-volume ventilation, etc. They have a reasonable supply of half-way decent neonatal ventilators there although they could use more that do some of these new modes of ventilation.
There are several other hospitals in Lima that are part of the "social security" system that have advanced ventilatory capacity in neonatology that I'm sure would similarly benefit.
So, why not get together some of your amigos, preferably including one who "habla Espanol" a poco and do some real good! If you can bring along some equipment (even neonatal ambu bags, old pulse ox's, etc are always useful), then all the better. I'll give you the contacts if you can find the route there.
Wouldn't that be more fun to write about than this endless useless discussion? And it would definitely make for a great pre-med essay!
Regards
OBP
I've got to agree, you're becoming a little annoying, premeder. I liked hearing of unite for sight at first.