Anyone know Why did **** get put on hold?

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I agree, that's exactly what I was saying.

I thought so, but the comment about people not being able to take a joke or move on seemed to imply it wasn't on goro for violating the TOS and that somehow the other users are also to blame for his behavior. I may have misinterpreted though.

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[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

I don't think those ideas are mutually exclusive. People post inflammatory stuff on here all the time. It happens on both sides of the political spectrum, and it ranges from lighthearted joking to (occasionally) incredibly offensive and bigoted comments. That's not okay, however, specifically when it comes to derailing a thread,

On one hand, Goro doesn't need to be posting stuff like that outside of the designated threads/fora. He is entirely responsible for posting those things, nobody else is to blame for that. I think we agree on that point.

However, if it's in a thread where the original topic is something totally different like a WAMC thread or something, other users should ignore it and move on. The original commenter is responsible for starting the conversation, yes. But you have a choice to continue it or not, and responses derail threads too. If you just can't let it go for some reason, send a PM to the person who posted it to deal with it without negatively affecting the OP's chance to get advice.

When a user repeatedly posts inflammatory remarks and offensive comments and says repeatedly that he doesn't care if it bothers people, I can see why people would just report him. That's what the report button is for. That's called a pattern of behavior. It has nothing to do with the people it annoys or bothers. It's his behavior and he should own up to it (which he did).

 

[sliceofbread136]

Too much trolling of the medical student section

 

[Kurk]

What I take from this is that just as Goro isn't above the rules or anyone with all his experience and wisdom, spending 10+ years of your life to become a physician doesn't matter because in the end you are at the mercy of one crooked cop, lawyer, etc.

 

[psychMDhopefully]

What I take from this is that just as Goro isn't above the rules or anyone with all his experience and wisdom, spending 10+ years of your life to become a physician doesn't matter because in the end you are at the mercy of one crooked cop, lawyer, etc.

He isn't a physician, tho he likes to pretend he knows what it is like to be one.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Again, I completely agree that he should have been reported and should not have been doing this in the first place. The mods handled the situation appropriately. I'm just saying that in addition (not instead), specifically when it comes to derailing threads that are not political in nature to begin with, users should respond by reporting the post and/or PMing the user who posted the inflammatory comment rather than getting into a flame war within the thread itself.

Totally agree. I didn't realize you were restricting your criticism specifically to that behavior, since your last paragraph indicated people should just move on or pm him if they can't.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

What I take from this is that just as Goro isn't above the rules or anyone with all his experience and wisdom, spending 10+ years of your life to become a physician doesn't matter because in the end you are at the mercy of one crooked cop, lawyer, etc.

Wat?

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Too much trolling of the medical student section

This. I really do think Goro is invaluable in the pre-med forums but he should stay there.

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

He doesn't give great info and the TOS don't apply to everyone equally. He is routinely inflammatory and obnoxious, and his advice isn't that good.

Now you are called a 'troll' if a peasant disagrees with Goro.

Goro should be banned

Exactly this. Most users would get banned for what Goro gets away with routinely. He got way way way more warnings than other users. The moderators can't say the TOS apply to all equally and then give losers like @Goro leeway. Goro's advice isn't really that valuable. He routinely posts outside the premed forums where he has little expertise. Remember, Goro failed to get into medical school so he became a faculty, it still hurts him.

Referring to 1, there are clearly different standards for different users. Please don't pretend it isn't that way. You're not fooling anyone.

Welcome back

 

[AnatomyGrey12]

Lets get this straight, Goro gets his account put on hold after countless political derailment posts and finally gets put on hold when most would have been banned a long time ago. Then you (@Lucca) go and do the exact thing Goro was banned for. @Lucca had no reason to mention Trump. So hypocritical.

Oh and don't trip on your way out the door

 

[altblue]

He doesn't give great info and the TOS don't apply to everyone equally. He is routinely inflammatory and obnoxious, and his advice isn't that good.

Did you really make a dummy account to post this? Post it on your regular one if you have any guts.

Yeah he can be somewhat harsh, but it's entertaining and typically the targets of his harsh advice aren't those who are easy to feel sorry for.

It's absolute crap that his advice isn't good. He gave me wonderful advice on a personal issue, advice that helped keep me on track in premed.

Here are some routine examples I can provide:
30ish, and you need to ace these things. And have an MCAT of 513+. 505 for DO will suffice, 510 even better.
I suggest that you follow through with your decision, because if you drop out to try for med school, or try while still in PA school, we'll wonder...
There are no colleges around where you live? I think that with a broad application, especially targeting the newest schools, you should get some...
All recent posts. Sure none of this is especially groundbreaking, but he routinely posts advice like this and keeps the premed advice machine cogs at SDN going. You don't have to make a profound comment that touches at the hearts of every ignorant premed to qualify as giving good advice; giving consistent solid advice is enough to suffice.

I don't oppose the ban, to be straight with you - I'm only trying to call you out.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Lets get this straight, Goro gets his account put on hold after countless political derailment posts and finally gets put on hold when most would have been banned a long time ago. Then you (@Lucca) go and do the exact thing Goro was banned for. @Lucca had no reason to mention Trump. So hypocritical.

Actually that had already been brought up. It was a main point in this thread. I know you're on hold, but I wanted to clarify that.

 

[Shotapp]

Oh and don't trip on your way out the door

That banhammer was super fast.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Did you really make a dummy account to post this? Post it on your regular one if you have any guts.

Yeah he can be somewhat harsh, but it's entertaining and typically the targets of his harsh advice aren't those who are easy to feel sorry for.

It's absolute crap that his advice isn't good. He gave me wonderful advice on a personal issue, advice that helped keep me on track in premed.

Here are some routine examples I can provide:
30ish, and you need to ace these things. And have an MCAT of 513+. 505 for DO will suffice, 510 even better.
I suggest that you follow through with your decision, because if you drop out to try for med school, or try while still in PA school, we'll wonder...
There are no colleges around where you live? I think that with a broad application, especially targeting the newest schools, you should get some...
All recent posts. Sure none of this is especially groundbreaking, but he routinely posts advice like this and keeps the premed advice machine cogs at SDN going. You don't have to make a profound comment that touches at the hearts of every ignorant premed to qualify as giving good advice; giving solid advice is enough to suffice.

I don't oppose the ban, to be straight with you - I'm only trying to call you out.

I've had my run ins with him. I think his endless political tirades and references to Hitler are annoying and offensive, but I think he gives decent advice to premeds. I don't think he should be banned unless he comes back and continues to disregard the rules. But that's true for anyone.

 

[wholeheartedly]

Returned troll @Ghettoprotest and his alt have been banned (announcing for transparency).

 

[altblue]

I've had my run ins with him. I think his endless political tirades and references to Hitler are annoying and offensive, but I think he gives decent advice to premeds. I don't think he should be banned unless he comes back and continues to disregard the rules. But that's true for anyone.

Yeah I haven't been as active lately so I'm not familiar with the posts. I just go by what I've seen, and from the remarks in this thread I can pretty safely assume the account hold is justified.

Hope he can come back and stay, the advice is so helpful and keep premeds on track

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Yeah I haven't been as active lately so I'm not familiar with the posts. I just go by what I've seen, and from the remarks in this thread I can pretty safely assume account hold is justified.

Hope he can come back and stay, what I mean to say is the consistent decent advice is so helpful and keep premeds on track

Yeah I agree. If he wasn't a valuable resource to premeds I would actually have ignored him a long time ago. But he gives good advice.

 

[Ad2b]

It's funny, to me, 3 years ago if someone would have told me, I'd be defending the Goronator, I'd have Between him and Gyn, I thought SDN was the 2nd coming of the devil. Too bad we don't have donkey emoticons here.

3 years ago, Goro told me that med school wasn't the make a wish foundation for retirees and that I should reconsider my life's choices, or something to that affect and Gyn chimed in when I responded saying I didn't need ya'll, I had lawyer friends.

Harsh? Yep. And... deserved. My first post was about my fancy GPA, blahblahblahblabhfamilyblahblahbnameblaybhalbyaninsomefancyblahblabhalbhalbhalbhalbh ... and it had hubris written all over it. I didn't mean it that way - was just damn proud of what I'd over come but how it read to others???

I've come to trust Goro's op on things and Gyn is always someone I see what she thinks, or how she handles things. Sometimes people need to be less thin skinned and realize how damn lucky they are to have worked their @#$es off to be in position to sign up and log onto this site. What I often see, daily, is the arrogance of people and the specialness that they really are the most prettiest and specialist of all people in the world.

And then they think they can whine, or report, or whatever. I'm so over the "me" generation of hurt feelings, and special trophies. Bring Goro back!

 

[wholeheartedly]

If you guys saw the number of reported posts we dismiss in a week from people upset (1) that someone disagreed with them or (2) someone was rude and gave them a harsh dose of reality, you'd never suggest mods cater to "snowflakes"

The number of times I see reports of "this is rude" for reality check posts that diplomatically suggest someone needs to do y when they want to hear x is kinda mind boggling.

 

[Ad2b]

If you guys saw the number of reported posts we dismiss in a week from people upset (1) that someone disagreed with them or (2) someone was rude and gave them a harsh dose of reality, you'd never suggest mods cater to "snowflakes"; The number of times I see "this is rude" for reality check posts that diplomatically suggest someone needs to do y when they want to hear x is kinda mind boggling.

I can only imagine... it's just disappointing on a personal level because I AM taking that damn test on Tues and I AM getting into the cycle (getting in is a whole other story); he was one of the first I wanted to tell, "It is done" because he has been the one in PMs supporting me all the way ... because apparently, med school IS the make-a-wish foundation for retirees

 

[wholeheartedly]

I can only imagine... it's just disappointing on a personal level because I AM taking that damn test on Tues and I AM getting into the cycle (getting in is a whole other story); he was one of the first I wanted to tell, "It is done" because he has been the one in PMs supporting me all the way ... because apparently, med school IS the make-a-wish foundation for retirees

He'll be back. @Goro is a valued contributor. He puts in a ton of time and effort into this site trying to help people. You'll be able to tell him.

 

[aaronrodgers]

Do you pronounce Goro as Go-Ro or Gore-Ro?

 

[68PGunner]

Goro gives fantastic advice to premeds. The problem is that there are too many soft kids who are easily triggered to the hard truths.

 

[Professional Student]

Do you pronounce Goro as Go-Ro or Gore-Ro?

The second

 

[DameJulie]

Can someone fill me with what happened? Kinda lost here

 

[deleted827260]

When did SDN become a big circlejerk fest around Goro. He is just a regular person who gives good advice on this forum. Obviously there must have been enough reasoning for him to get on hold and he will learn from it. IDK why people are on here whining about the generation by saying that the generation is full of whiners. We must've learned from the best. He could've done anything behind the scenes that you don't know about. Let him live.

 

[Jalby]

Man. The moderators need to chill out. They keep chasing away the greatest and best users. It won't be to long until all the "Goros" of SDN and it will just be a bunch of premeds giving each other wrong advice. #FreeGoro

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Man. The moderators need to chill out. They keep chasing away the greatest and best users. It won't be to long until all the "Goros" of SDN and it will just be a bunch of premeds giving each other wrong advice. #FreeGoro

If having to follow the same TOS as the rest of the peons is enough to drive you away, then maybe you're not the best source of advice.

 

[bananafish94]

Seems to me that there are posters with far more obvious/inflammatory political biases than him, but what do I know. And I'm sure there's lots of stuff behind the scenes we're not privy to.

 

[onyxbell]

Personally I just miss the cat. Sad puppies can only suffer in the Dead Silence Squad for so long before neurosis kicks in.

 

[Terror Billy]

If you want to post about the president, take it to the social thread or the lounge. It's not that hard to keep your political comments to yourself.

When there's an entire thread dedicated to Dreamers (DACA) and people still don't feel safe to divulge info on here for fear of being reported (because people like that I'm sure even exist on this forum) then I think it's safe to bring politics in. Everyone who says/preaches "I don't come to __________ hear about politics" needs to get their heads out of their you know whats because statements and policies are coming out almost everyday that attack and disrupt some of the most vulnerable populations in this country. That whole stick to SDN/med notion is probably just spewed out by people who support trump or are pretending to be neutral but really still like him

 

[allantois]

Some Trumpkins got offended

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

When there's an entire thread dedicated to Dreamers (DACA) and people still don't feel safe to divulge info on here for fear of being reported (because people like that I'm sure even exist on this forum) then I think it's safe to bring politics in. Everyone who says/preaches "I don't come to __________ hear about politics" needs to get their heads out of their you know whats because statements and policies are coming out almost everyday that attack and disrupt some of the most vulnerable populations in this country. That whole stick to SDN/med notion is probably just spewed out by people who support trump or are pretending to be neutral but really still like him

Or maybe they actually don't want to have politics enter every thread about med school. When your first instinct is to assume an entire group of people must be conspiring against you, you should probably reevaluate that. I don't think anyone is reporting him because they are butt hurt about him making fun of Trump.

Was it annoying when people constantly brought Obama up in unrelated threads? I'm guessing it was.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

This isn't politically motivated from me disagreeing with you or anything - however, you've hit on one of the exact reasons that Goro was reported/put on hold in the first place. There are places on this website where it is perfectly acceptable to talk about politics, i.e. the lounge and SPF forum. There are even politically-themed threads in the pre-med or med student forums every few weeks or so that are allowed to continue. But you bring up the DACA thread, which was begun with the intent of helping DACA recipients apply to medical school. This might be one of the only opportunities these students have to safely/anonymously seek advice on this topic. Say somebody who doesn't support DACA goes into the thread and starts posting a bunch of political stuff about how they think DACA shouldn't exist. Naturally, others will respond in disagreement and a "debate" will get started, inevitably turn nasty/off-topic, and the thread will be closed. As a result, DACA students will have lost an opportunity to seek advice on applying to medical school. Nobody is saying that politics shouldn't be discussed at all on SDN, just that it shouldn't be done at the expense of students who are just trying to get advice on applying to med school or whatever. And whether you agree with the poster's political perspective or not, that's exactly what happens whenever someone posts politically-motivated stuff in a completely unrelated thread.

Bingo.

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Some Trumpkins got offended

 

[Matthew9Thirtyfive]

Seems to me that there are posters with far more obvious/inflammatory political biases than him, but what do I know. And I'm sure there's lots of stuff behind the scenes we're not privy to.

If they're constantly posting them in unrelated threads, they should be put on probation or timeout too. I posted something about liberals in an unrelated thread and got a warning about it. Guess what. I stopped and didn't have a problem.

 

[Ad2b]

Some Trumpkins got offended

Well, that offends me so I'm reporting you. (I did not vote)

 

[Lucca]

This thread has a run its course. Closing.