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Anyone match into a program despite receiving a sloppy second interview?

Discussion in 'Emergency Medicine' started by Zebra Hunter, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. Zebra Hunter

    Zebra Hunter 2+ Year Member

    Sep 17, 2014
    Received an interview after spots opened up from cancellation with a program that I would love to get into; however, I'm wondering if there is a realistic shot, even if small, that I will match with the program. Obviously I'm going to attend the interview, but I would just like to know that despite my belief that they'll be ranking me low, there is still a small bit of hope.
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  3. SoyMilk

    SoyMilk 7+ Year Member

    Nov 14, 2007
    The West Side
    Lol at sloppy second interview.. Bump I am also curious
  4. Pons Asinorum

    Pons Asinorum Physician Moderator Emeritus 7+ Year Member

    Jul 30, 2010
    North Carolina
    PD's say that their classes are made up of people who interview throughout the entire season, it would stand to reason that at least some of those late-season interviews are more likely sloppy-seconders. I have to assume you're still in the mix though regardless. Anecdotally most programs have to go pretty deep on their rank list to fill their classes. Don't think there will be a firm answer on this, but my working assumption is yes.
  5. ImNotBritish

    ImNotBritish .................... 7+ Year Member

    May 11, 2007
    Yep! I was invited in mid-December, wrote a love letter (that didn't get a response), ranked them second, and now here I am. Our PC told me this year that there were 1000+ applicants for 10 spots, so some of the decisions have got to be somewhat arbitrary. I like to think that they just didn't have space for me initially, and that cuts had to be made somewhere. But who knows, maybe they were digging through the bottom of the barrel for interviewees, and went low on their rank list before getting to me. It's probably good that I'll never really know. : )
  6. Zebra Hunter

    Zebra Hunter 2+ Year Member

    Sep 17, 2014
    Thanks for the responses guys!
  7. littlejuan

    littlejuan 10+ Year Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    There are no sloppy seconds. Don't even think like that. There are just so many applicants and thus so many qualified applicants that it is impossible to send invites to everyone who they think would be a good fit. If you have an invite there is a chance.
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  8. fahimaz7

    fahimaz7 10+ Year Member

    Jul 18, 2004
    They don't invite you if they are not interested in you. Fit is more important than scores.
  9. WalkingCorpse

    WalkingCorpse 2+ Year Member

    Jul 5, 2014
    I was offered an interview a few days before Christmas last year, guarantee it was due to cancellations. I interviewed in end of January and got very positive vibes post-interview. I think I would have matched there had I ranked it higher. If you get an interview, it's an interview. Just like everyone else's.
  10. littlejuan

    littlejuan 10+ Year Member

    Jul 3, 2007
    Just to add to my previous post, like WalkingCorpse, last year I received a last minute interview at a place I aggressively pursued (i.e. Called multiple times). The interview went extremely well and several of the people interviewing me were pretty upfront and flat out said they thought I would be a great fit at their program. I am pretty sure I would have matched there as well had I ranked them higher. I liked their program, I just liked the one I am at now a bit better.
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  11. DO3

    DO3 7+ Year Member

    Aug 1, 2009
    Invited to interview in November and only given two choices of open dates. Interviewed on their last day. Matched into that program.
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  12. Modafinil

    Modafinil 2+ Year Member

    Mar 20, 2014
    Yeah it happens all the time. There aren't enough spots to interview everyone a program likes.
  13. gman33

    gman33 Moderator Emeritus 10+ Year Member

    Aug 18, 2007
    Don't read too much into getting a late invite.
    Quality programs get 1000+ applications.
    Tons of great candidates.
    If you get an interview at all, you have a chance.

    Good luck to all the applicants.
  14. link2swim06

    link2swim06 Physician 10+ Year Member

    Dec 14, 2007
    I matched at a place where I got the interview invite in late December.
  15. dav86

    dav86 10+ Year Member

    Jun 18, 2007
    I matched at a place coming off the waitlist. Anything can happen. I had the same attitude you did when I got off the waitlist and then matched there. Now being on this side of things I agreed with above posts. Programs get way too many good applicants to interview them all. We are already doing waitlist only, filled up really quick and everyone we are interview have insane stats. Interviewing late doesn't mean anything. Just interview well and see what happens
  16. cocobutter


    Apr 15, 2014
    no it's not.
  17. hrain

    hrain 5+ Year Member

    Nov 3, 2010
    When you have been offered and have accepted an interview, at that point the fit becomes more important than scores. At that point, they've reviewed your application, determined you're qualified enough on paper, and the interview is to figure out whether or not you're a good fit for the program. I've been told this by innumerable residents and the associate PD at the program where I'm currently rotating. And, based on their interview day's feel, I definitely believe it.

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