Anyone move to TX for dental school?

[larryguy1960]

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Did anyone move to TX so they could apply as an in-state resident? I am considering it (due to family, tuition) and I was wondering if anyone had any success/failure stories to share.

 

[slm266]

Did anyone move to TX so they could apply as an in-state resident? I am considering it (due to family, tuition) and I was wondering if anyone had any success/failure stories to share.

If you move you have to be "gainfully employed" and pay taxes for an entire year before applying.

 

[rockclock]

If you move you have to be "gainfully employed" and pay taxes for an entire year before applying.

if you still have a year until you apply (i.e. still in school, taking a year off for other reasons, etc.) the it would make sense to try to get TX residency. if you're delaying dental for a year to save on tuition it probably won't be worthwhile after you consider the year of lost income.

 

[Blue87Fiero]

I dont know what the Texas rules are but some states require you to be employed and NOT be a full time student to gain residency. You should probably check that out.

 

[immike1234]

I thought it's the same if his parents move to the state that he wants to become a resident of since he's still considered a dependent if he's under 22 years old.

 

[txaggie03]

if you're delaying dental for a year to save on tuition it probably won't be worthwhile after you consider the year of lost income.

Depends on what other school is considered.

For instance, the Total Resident Costs for All Four Years is as follows...

$66,251 --- Baylor
$84,964 --- San Antonio
$88,197 --- Houston

Now if we are comparing them against other schools such as Flordia ($118k), Washington ($121K), or Ohio State ($164k) it might not make sense.

But if you compare them to Harvard ($222k), NYU ($245k), UoP ($267k), or USC ($291k), than it starts making more sense.

Especially if you consider the decrease in cost of living for some of those places as well.

For a quick breakdown of the total costs of the schools, see page 29 for resident and 30 for non-resident.
Source: http://www.ada.org/sections/professionalResources/pdfs/survey_ed_vol2.pdf

 

[NAVY DDS 2010]

Did anyone move to TX so they could apply as an in-state resident? I am considering it (due to family, tuition) and I was wondering if anyone had any success/failure stories to share.

I did, but you need to have a legit reason that yo can claim why you moved to Texas a year before applying. My wife - she is a pharmacist. She was able to transfer from the Seattle area to San Antonio, TX with her job. So, claiming we moved to Texas for the purpose of her job was easy to prove. No one questioned our reasoning for moving here when having to prove residency status on the TMDSAS.

 

[rockclock]

Depends on what other school is considered.

For instance, the Total Resident Costs for All Four Years is as follows...

$66,251 --- Baylor
$84,964 --- San Antonio
$88,197 --- Houston

Now if we are comparing them against other schools such as Flordia ($118k), Washington ($121K), or Ohio State ($164k) it might not make sense.

But if you compare them to Harvard ($222k), NYU ($245k), UoP ($267k), or USC ($291k), than it starts making more sense.

Especially if you consider the decrease in cost of living for some of those places as well.

For a quick breakdown of the total costs of the schools, see page 29 for resident and 30 for non-resident.
Source: http://www.ada.org/sections/professionalResources/pdfs/survey_ed_vol2.pdf

66k?!?!

That is jesus titty fu*king christ insane man...didn't realize the numbers were that low. Thanks for chiming in and correcting things.

 

[larryguy1960]

I did, but you need to have a legit reason that yo can claim why you moved to Texas a year before applying. My wife - she is a pharmacist. She was able to transfer from the Seattle area to San Antonio, TX with her job. So, claiming we moved to Texas for the purpose of her job was easy to prove. No one questioned our reasoning for moving here when having to prove residency status on the TMDSAS.

when I spoke with someone at TMDSAS they said that as long as you have been there for a year, they won't know if its been a year or its been 20 years to be considered an in-state resident. Are you referring to an interview type question? Because TMDSAS said that you are treated no differently than a life-long resident from a financial standpoint. From an interview standpoint, my question to them was if two identical students walk in the door, and one has been in TX since birth and the other moved to texas a year ago because he wants to live here, i'm assuming the first student gets the spot, right?

 

[txaggie03]

Thanks for chiming in and correcting things.

Just remember that all of those numbers I posted are just moneys due to the school. They do not account for living expenses that would accrue no matter where you were.

 

[m1817]

The following is link to a discussion on how to qualify for residency/in-state tuition in Texas.

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-texas-austin/1120087-getting-instate-tuition-oos.html

Starting this fall, you have to do ONE of the following (second option is the one that's changed):

■Be gainfully employed in Texas (Student jobs do not qualify as gainful employment.)
■Sole or joint marital ownership of residential real property in Texas by the person seeking to enroll or the dependent’s parent, having established and maintained a domicile at the residence
■Own and operate a business in Texas
■Be married for one year to a person who has established domicile in Texas

 

[jay47]

Just see page 20 of this for a list of everything you need to know about costs of US dental schools.

http://www.ada.org/sections/professionalResources/pdfs/survey_ed_vol2.pdf

 

[NAVY DDS 2010]

Just see page 20 of this for a list of everything you need to know about costs of US dental schools.

http://www.ada.org/sections/professionalResources/pdfs/survey_ed_vol2.pdf

One thing that jay did not point out when referring to page 20 and the costs is that the cost of tuition for new students has risen by $3000 this year. Those of us who are already here only went up by $1500. So, add at least another $12,000 to the overall cost at Houston for 4 years - that is if they do not increase the cost at all during the time you attend UTSD.

By the way Jay, shouldn't you be studying for NBDE part I instead of being on SDN?

 

[jay47]

By the way Jay, shouldn't you be studying for NBDE part I instead of being on SDN?

No, I should be procrastinating like I am now.

 

[Flosstooth]

My wife did this for med school.

Those were the days when tuition was $400/year.

 

[jay47]

My wife did this for med school.

Those were the days when tuition was $400/year.

Lol, where would she move now when tuition is $20,000 a year?

 

[wizi]

I have a question.

Let say you move to TX to work. What kind of documents that you need to provide TMDSAS to prove that you have been working in TX for more than 12 months?

 

[slm266]

Paystub? W2 from last year? Contact info of someone that can verify?

 

[HopefulDDStobe]

The following is link to a discussion on how to qualify for residency/in-state tuition in Texas.

http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/university-texas-austin/1120087-getting-instate-tuition-oos.html

Starting this fall, you have to do ONE of the following (second option is the one that's changed):

■Be gainfully employed in Texas (Student jobs do not qualify as gainful employment.)
■Sole or joint marital ownership of residential real property in Texas by the person seeking to enroll or the dependent’s parent, having established and maintained a domicile at the residence
■Own and operate a business in Texas
■Be married for one year to a person who has established domicile in Texas

I am planning to move to texas to start a family but I can't move till 1.5 years from now and I want to apply instate for dental schools. I wonder if being married one year to a person living in texas requires me to physically be in Texas or if i can just legally be married to him for one year without being there. Anyone know if they check on this?

 

[slm266]

I am planning to move to texas to start a family but I can't move till 1.5 years from now and I want to apply instate for dental schools. I wonder if being married one year to a person living in texas requires me to physically be in Texas or if i can just legally be married to him for one year without being there. Anyone know if they check on this?

If your spouse is a Texas resident, you've been married for 1 year and your spouse (and assuming you as well) are currently living in Texas, then you should be fine. At the time you submit your application, it sounds like he at leasts needs to living currently in Texas.

 

[HopefulDDStobe]

If your spouse is a Texas resident, you've been married for 1 year and your spouse (and assuming you as well) are currently living in Texas, then you should be fine. At the time you submit your application, it sounds like he at leasts needs to living currently in Texas.

He is currently living in Texas, been there since 2005 but I am in DC area at the moment, working as a hygienist and taking upper level bio classes. I do visit him a lot but I cannot move there yet, just wondering if we are married on paper but not living together for the first year will count. I still have a lot to take care of before I move to Texas.

 

[slm266]

Interesting, I suppose, but better call TMDSAS.

 

[yappy]

I'm very interested in texas, not only for their cheaper educational programs, but also living their and the cheaper housing.

I've never been but it just seems like a great place - warm weather, large cities, cheap housing, no income tax, etc. etc.

For those of you who live in Tx; do you enjoy it?

I'm from a larger city that is not southern - so i'm slightly worried about things like exclusion, racism, or overly conservitism. Are these issues? Take Austin for example - is Austin a good place to live/work? Is dentistry saturated in texas like it is CA or NY?

 

[HoustonDAT]

I'm very interested in texas, not only for their cheaper educational programs, but also living their and the cheaper housing.

I've never been but it just seems like a great place - warm weather, large cities, cheap housing, no income tax, etc. etc.

For those of you who live in Tx; do you enjoy it?

I'm from a larger city that is not southern - so i'm slightly worried about things like exclusion, racism, or overly conservitism. Are these issues? Take Austin for example - is Austin a good place to live/work? Is dentistry saturated in texas like it is CA or NY?

Austin is one of the best cities to live in the U.S. (and no, I did not go to UT). All of the big 4 cities (Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Austin) are much more liberal as compared to the rest of the state. I remember seeing a graphic during the 2008 presidential elections where the only counties that Obama won were in those 4 cities. As far as dentist saturation, I can speak of Houston anecdotally, and I believe Houston is extremely saturated. I know of at least 20 dental offices within a 10 mile radius of my house. I'm sure you can look an ADA document to show you these types of figures. However, there are LOTS of places in TX outside of the big cities that need dentists. As far as racism, I've lived in different parts of Houston for the last ~20 years, and I can't say that I've had to deal with blatant racism. I have traveled to East TX a few times and I did not feel the southern hospitality, more like southern hostility. But I love TX, and I wouldn't move outside of TX unless one hell of an opportunity presented itself.

 

[crew09]

I've lived in almost all major Texas cities....

The pluses are pretty significant but it's not obviously not perfect, summers can get pretty hot (triple digits),some cities are humid (houston) winters can get get surprising cold for a short amount of time (snow in dallas).

Exclusion, racism, over conservatism is there, like other places, but I haven't seen it significantly affect professional spheres (school, work).

Major cities do face heavy dentist saturation, Austin, Dallas, Houston, San Antonio is pretty bad. I don't think it's as bad as CA or NY....there are websites that have very accurate info about this, maybe a dental student/dentist can link it.

There are still opportunities depending on your flexibility.

If your serious about considering a move I recommend a visit.

 

[Noble6]

I'm very interested in texas, not only for their cheaper educational programs, but also living their and the cheaper housing.

I've never been but it just seems like a great place - warm weather, large cities, cheap housing, no income tax, etc. etc.

For those of you who live in Tx; do you enjoy it?

I'm from a larger city that is not southern - so i'm slightly worried about things like exclusion, racism, or overly conservitism. Are these issues? Take Austin for example - is Austin a good place to live/work? Is dentistry saturated in texas like it is CA or NY?

Overly conservitism? What does that even mean?

If you're referring to a political ideology that has lead to a state that has created over half of all new jobs nationally, then yes, we're overly conservative.

 

[slm266]

Lol take that you liberal Yankee!!

 

[crew09]

lol. I think yappy meant more in context of socially rather than economically.

Look. Ricky Perry shot a coyote with a laser-sighted pistol while jogging.

BALLER.

 

[PharmaTope]

TEXAS>>>>>>>>> other states

clearly they fund their schools the right way while other states fail to do so

 

[FreewheelingFrolicker]

Overly conservitism? What does that even mean?

If you're referring to a political ideology that has lead to a state that has created over half of all new jobs nationally, then yes, we're overly conservative.

I think he means to say that Texas is libertarian conservative (aka uber conservative). Becoming defensive after someone calls something "conservative" implies that you believe in the existing negative connotations of the word "conservatism."

 

[FreewheelingFrolicker]

TEXAS>>>>>>>>> other states

clearly they fund their schools the right way while other states fail to do so

Yes, the federal gov't should take a cue from Texas. How many more soldiers do taxpayers have to support for life before everyone realizes that we need smarter people not more pawns?
Well, money from all the oil helps too.
Power off political mode. (stupid political mode. what use are you?)

 

[Noble6]

I think he means to say that Texas is libertarian conservative (aka uber conservative). Becoming defensive after someone calls something "conservative" implies that you believe in the existing negative connotations of the word "conservatism."

Noooo. yappy throwing in the word "conservitism" with "exclusion" and "rascism" led to the negative connotation. Any word in certain context will have a negative connotation.

 

[crew09]

Doesn't matter.

Worlds gonna end. We will default. China will take over. Than---->2012.

Game Over.

 

[NAVY DDS 2010]

Yes, the federal gov't should take a cue from Texas. How many more soldiers do taxpayers have to support for life before everyone realizes that we need smarter people not more pawns?
Well, money from all the oil helps too.
Power off political mode. (stupid political mode. what use are you?)

Without those soldiers that taxpayers do support for th rest of their lives, the US would cease to exist. In an utopic world, we would not need the "pawns" as you suggest, but since man inhabited Earth there has needed 'soldiers' in some manner. Oh, and by the way, some of the most intelligent people I have ever known were in the military.

 

[Flosstooth]

Without those soldiers that taxpayers do support for th rest of their lives, the US would cease to exist. In an utopic world, we would not need the "pawns" as you suggest, but since man inhabited Earth there has needed 'soldiers' in some manner. Oh, and by the way, some of the most intelligent people I have ever known were in the military.

Agreed 100%.

The primary function of government SHOULD be to preserve and protect the populous. EVERYTHING else is secondary.