AOA Residencies No Longer Allowed to Accept Trainees w/o ACGME App in Place

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Then I will chop it down to 2. Show me 2 programs that close for accreditation costs and I will be history.
Otolaryngology and Ophthalmology in Wyoming, MI are going to finish out its current residents and does not plan to apply for ACGME accreditation.
Source: http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...program_id=128515&hosp_id=118986&returnPage=1
http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...program_id=128516&hosp_id=118986&returnPage=1

Dermatology in Cuyahoga Falls, OH is not planning to apply as well.
Source: http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...program_id=347549&hosp_id=347548&returnPage=1

Ophthalmology in Las Vegas, NV is not planning to apply.
Source: http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...program_id=175783&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1

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Minimal teaching staff levels, teaching facilities, call rooms, etc really add up. Most programs are looking at six to seven figure investments to be in compliance. When hospitals are already in the red (as many community hospitals tend to be these days), convincing the board that your program is worth saving versus, say, hiring a dozen midlevels for the same yearly cost, becomes difficult.

But those arent new costs. They already have call rooms and teaching salaries. And no hospital would need 12 PAs. They might need one or two that work nights. If the issue is the admission cap, there are cheap ways to fix it. Hiring one nocturnal PA takes care of it.
 
not trying to hijack this thready guys but does anybody have any inclination as to which aoa ortho programs have no intentions of applying to acgme?
 
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But those arent new costs. They already have call rooms and teaching salaries. And no hospital would need 12 PAs. They might need one or two that work nights. If the issue is the admission cap, there are cheap ways to fix it. Hiring one nocturnal PA takes care of it.
The PAs would be to replace the exiting residents. And the ACGME has much higher standards for facilities and staff than the AOA, so there are new costs involved. A great example of the sort of programs that will likely not be seeking accreditation due to staffing costs, etc:

http://www.berkshirehealthsystems.org/aoageneralsurgeryresidency

They only take 1 resident per year, and the infrastructure costs to maintain such a small surgery program under ACGME rules would simply be far less efficient than scrapping the program altogether. There's also the issue of volume- they likely will not have enough volume to meet ACGME standards. So, rather than put up the 16k to apply, as of yet, they most likely will not.
 
The PAs would be to replace the exiting residents. And the ACGME has much higher standards for facilities and staff than the AOA, so there are new costs involved. A great example of the sort of programs that will likely not be seeking accreditation due to staffing costs, etc:

http://www.berkshirehealthsystems.org/aoageneralsurgeryresidency

They only take 1 resident per year, and the infrastructure costs to maintain such a small surgery program under ACGME rules would simply be far less efficient than scrapping the program altogether. There's also the issue of volume- they likely will not have enough volume to meet ACGME standards. So, rather than put up the 16k to apply, as of yet, they most likely will not.

They don't. No idea who told you this, but they don't know what they are talking about.

The only mandate on call rooms for example is that they must be "safe and clean". The end.
 
No.

Medicare funded residency positions are some of the most valuable assets a that a hospital could ever have. Programs, and specifically program directors arent just flying white flags because of the big tough ACGME regulations. Some of the ACGME rules are actually softer than AOA rules.

Ie: AOA rules mandate that IM residents need 1 month of pulm, gi, endocrine, hemeonc, neuro, id,rheum. Acgme has no such requirement. They require "exposure to IM subspecialties".

That is called an example.

Rather than all this "my friend told me that his dad heard about this FM program in nevada closing over regulations" , feel free to use examples of programs that are actually not applying for accreditation.


I will wait here and hold my breath.

I get it, you want hard evidence. Honestly, I can't provide any. Doesn't make anything I said false. Checkout SOMC's EM program. They courteously informed all rotators that they will be shutting down and not accepting new residents this year. I'm not sure why you are so defensive about this issue, maybe you are a first or second year that will be impacted more by these closures. I don't know. What I do know is that there are programs that will shut down. Majority will be ok.
 
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They don't. No idea who told you this, but they don't know what they are talking about.

The only mandate on call rooms for example is that they must be "safe and clean". The end.
http://www.osteopathic.org/inside-a...nts/Basic-Standards-For-Internal-Medicine.pdf

https://www.acgme.org/acgmeweb/Portals/0/PFAssets/2013-PR-FAQ-PIF/140_internal_medicine_07012013.pdf

The AOA has no minimum faculty requirements, but merely requires that there be a PD. The ACGME requires a minimum of four faculty and a PD for a small program. The AOA has no resource requirements. The ACGME does.

Resources The institution and the program must jointly ensure the availability of adequate resources for resident education, as defined in the specialty program requirements. (Core) II.D.1. The sponsoring institution must provide the broad range of facilities and clinical support services required to provide comprehensive care of adult patients. Residents must have clinical experiences in efficient, effective ambulatory and inpatient care settings. (Core) II.D.2. Additional services must include those for: cardiac catheterization, bronchoscopy, gastrointestinal endoscopy, noninvasive cardiology studies, pulmonary function studies, hemodialysis, and imaging studies, including radionuclide, ultrasound, fluoroscopy, angiography, computerized tomography, and magnetic resonance imaging. (Detail) II.D.3. Adequate clinical and teaching space must be available, including meeting rooms, classrooms, examination rooms, computers, visual and Internal Medicine 12 other educational aids, and office space for teaching staff. (Core) II.D.4. When residents are assigned duty in the hospital, the institution must provide them with: II.D.4.a) on-call facilities that are convenient and that afford privacy, safety, and a restful environment with a secure space for their belongings, and (Detail) II.D.4.b) sleeping rooms, lounge, and food facilities. (Detail) II.D.5. Patient Population II.D.5.a) The patient population must have a variety of clinical problems and stages of disease. (Core) II.D.5.b) There must be patients of both sexes, with a broad age range, including geriatric patients. (Core) II.D.6. There must be services available from other health care professionals such as nurses, social workers, case managers, language interpreters, dieticians, etc. to assist with patient care. (Detail) II.D.7. Consultations from other clinical services must be available in a timely manner in all care settings where the residents work. All consultations should be performed by or under the supervision of a qualified specialist.

A lot of rural AOA programs are in areas that lack specialty providers and advanced imaging services. Many AOA programs have minimal teaching space and facilities that do not meet ACGME standards. Many lack an adequate number of call rooms for residents that meet ACGME requirements. Each of these things costs money to remedy that many small hospitals do not have. If you don't have a fluoro suite and you've been sending your fluoro patients off to the local referral center, you're not going to build one and bring on an interventional radiologist to keep your 6 resident program afloat.
 
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There are IM residencies in a hospital without a cath lab? Not saying I don't believe you, but ....

Provide some links please. I'll be doing my own research as well.
 
I am not convinced that closing off a large swath of 5-year AOA programs to new applications on very short notice is good for DOs in training.
I don't believe this is actually pressure from the ACGME. If anything its a move made by the AOA that puts all the work of protecting residents on the programs themselves. Otherwise, it would be the AOA's responsibility to find spots for all the residents that are caught without an accredited program in July of 2020.



I wouldn't be surprised if this forces a lot of those programs to make the decision one way or the other. And, I wouldn't be surprised if it nudged those on the fence to apply, but only time will tell.

They honestly should have already been poised to do that. They've known about the merger for over a year and they were just sitting by. What was their plan, to accept residents, who could never finish, without deciding whether or not to actually apply to stay accredited? According to Mad Jack, that's unthinkable, because all PDs are honest, ethical, and organized.



You give PDs a lot more credit than I think is warranted. I've seen PDs repeatedly lie to applicants just for the program to be ranked higher. I'm sure many are honest and ethical, but many also aren't, and are looking out for themselves above all. Then of course you've got a whole slew of ones that are just disorganized or lazy that will delay things until someone forces their hand.

PDs are people, they have the same flaws as others. Many have probably convinced themselves that giving residents even 1 year of training is doing a service to them, regardless of whether those residents will ever be eligible for board certification.



It varies depending on the specific specialty committee. 6mos-1yr minimum is what's being projected. Programs need to apply ASAP. The sooner they apply, the sooner they'll know what they need to do to be accredited. With that info, they can actually decide whether or not it's worth it.

People keep assuming every ACGME program is held to the same standard. They aren't. While there are "some" universal standards, there are always programs that get waivers or have rules bent for them. In addition, some rules on paper can be interpreted in many different ways (what does "devotion to research" mean, "x hrs devoted to program activities", etc. etc. - the wording is purposefully vague). It's the nature of the beast when you're dealing with thousands of programs in very different settings. The only way for AOA programs to really know what they need to do is to apply in the first place. If this policy makes them do it faster, I'm all for it.

I actually agree with YankeeCandle (which blows my mind in and of itself) on the idea that most programs will be willing to fork over the application fee just to see what's going to happen. $10-$15k is actually nothing for almost all of these hospitals. Now will they all spend the millions to be accredited for those that require it, probably not, but they probably want to know how much it'll actually cost. Some won't, but most will.

Also, I wouldn't be surprised if the programs willing to throw in a towel this early in the game, are hospitals that were already considering dropping their residency program. Residency programs are constantly in flux. Some are fragile and collapse pretty quickly at the first sign of trouble or change. One example is the LECOM ophtho program. When the PD passed away, they tried to briefly find a replacement, and then decided it wasn't worth it, sending all the current residents packing. This stuff unfortunately happens.



Its hard to tell. Residency programs on average increase spots by 1-2%/yr. In 5 years that will be close to 5-10%. We'll have to see just how many AOA spots close/open in that time to know what the net spots will be. Even if we assume 30% of AOA spots will disappear (I honestly think that's high), that's only about 900-1000 spots, which is only about 3-4% of the total residency spots.



From what my director of GME has said, all of my hospital's programs intend to apply for accreditation. I also know that 3 of them are already in the process of filling out the paperwork (I know because they're making a few residents do it - ridiculous).



I agree.
 
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There are IM residencies in a hospital without a cath lab? Not saying I don't believe you, but ....

Provide some links please. I'll be doing my own research as well.

I just did some googling, and even the IM residency in Idaho is affiliated with a hospital with a cath lab.
 
There are IM residencies in a hospital without a cath lab? Not saying I don't believe you, but ....

Provide some links please. I'll be doing my own research as well.

My IM program is at a hospital without a cath lab.

The hospital I did my TRI at had a cath lab with bankers hours, so any STEMIs got transferred out in the ED anyways. The cath lab isn't the end all/be all of cardiology.
 
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Another statement making it clear to anyone with experience working with a residency program that you have no idea what you're talking about.


I dont need to take posts out of context to tell you that you have literally no insight to this topic. Your experience with DO residencies? Zero. Your experience with the merger? Zero
 
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I dont need to take posts out of context to tell you that you have literally no insight to this topic. Your experience with DO residencies? Zero. Your experience with the merger? Zero

You're absolutely right. Please point out where I've made any statements presuming that I do have such knowledge. When I have something to say, I qualify it. Otherwise I don't feel the need to make declarations about things I don't know about- you seem to do it pretty consistently. I do have knowledge of the ACGME, and just want to point out incorrect statements so you aren't able to mislead someone who doesn't know any better and thinks you actually know what you're talking about.
 
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My IM program is at a hospital without a cath lab.

The hospital I did my TRI at had a cath lab with bankers hours, so any STEMIs got transferred out in the ED anyways. The cath lab isn't the end all/be all of cardiology.
There's a lot of smaller hospitals like this that do not have cath labs.

The biggest issue, however, is the specialty consults being available on a timely basis. Some rural areas just don't have certain specialties available reliably. That and the facility issue will only affect the most rural of DO IM programs, but that's still a good number of programs, certainly more than zero.
 
There's a lot of smaller hospitals like this that do not have cath labs.

The biggest issue, however, is the specialty consults being available on a timely basis. Some rural areas just don't have certain specialties available reliably. That and the facility issue will only affect the most rural of DO IM programs, but that's still a good number of programs, certainly more than zero.
I'm at a suburban community program and we just added 2 GI docs. Every once in a while we'll have a hole in our call schedule, but the vast majority of specialties are either covered by 1 group large enough to see patients within 24 hours or a rotating specialist call that will also have a prompt response. Probably half of the specialist attendings I just text message when I need them to see a patient.
 
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My IM program is at a hospital without a cath lab.

The hospital I did my TRI at had a cath lab with bankers hours, so any STEMIs got transferred out in the ED anyways. The cath lab isn't the end all/be all of cardiology.

It kind of is though. I mean without a cath lab, one is pretty much practicing 1950's medicine.

I assume your program is shutting down?
 
It kind of is though. I mean without a cath lab, one is pretty much practicing 1950's medicine.

I assume your program is shutting down?

No. We're planning on staying open.

...besides, because you know. Residents on the inpatient team routinely have the free time to walk down to the cath lab and scrub in when their patient does go to the cath lab. You don't need a cath lab to manage pericardial effusions, tamponade, a-fib, arrhythmias, heart failure, HTN urgency/emergency, regular HTN, vascular diseases, or most of the rest of cardiology. It's not like I can't get an echo or stress test (including nuclear stress testing) done.
 
I am not convinced that closing off a large swath of 5-year AOA programs to new applications on very short notice is good for DOs in training.

They aren't being closed. They're being told that they have 8 months to submit an application for accreditation.

Why are people acting like this is an incredible shock to programs, asking them to do something unthinkable on short notice? They've known they needed to submit the app for over a year. They're not being caught off guard, they're being told what they should already have planned for. I guess it would be better for a bunch of residents to be stuck in programs that end in mid-training.

There is essentially no risk of putting together a rushed app, because even if they aren't ready now to be evaluated for accreditation, they will still get pre-accreditation status and even if they are rejected for initial accreditation they can submit the app as much as they want at no additional charge over the transition period. Regardless they still get pre-accredited.
 
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No. We're planning on staying open.

...besides, because you know. Residents on the inpatient team routinely have the free time to walk down to the cath lab and scrub in when their patient does go to the cath lab. You don't need a cath lab to manage pericardial effusions, tamponade, a-fib, arrhythmias, heart failure, HTN urgency/emergency, regular HTN, vascular diseases, or most of the rest of cardiology. It's not like I can't get an echo or stress test (including nuclear stress testing) done.

You don't need a cardiologist to manage any of these either. Should we eliminate the speciality?

A cath takes 15 minutes. I'm sure you guys could find the time someplace. The real issue is whether you will be competent to manage patients pre/post cath....

If you said your hospital didn't have gamma knife, it would be another story, but a cath lab? Like I said, even the AOA IM residency in Idaho has one.

I'm sure you would agree that it would be much better if your hospital DID have a cath lab.
 
You don't need a cardiologist to manage any of these either. Should we eliminate the speciality?

A cath takes 15 minutes. I'm sure you guys could find the time someplace. The real issue is whether you will be competent to manage patients pre/post cath....

If you said your hospital didn't have gamma knife, it would be another story, but a cath lab? Like I said, even the AOA IM residency in Idaho has one.

I'm sure you would agree that it would be much better if your hospital DID have a cath lab.


...and if we were training cardiologists, I'd agree that we'd need a cath lab. We're training internests, who may afterwards decide to go elsewhere for a cardiology fellowship. We do manage patients pre-cath (including NSTEMI patients) prior to transferring them to our sister hospital with a cath lab. Post cath management is basically making sure the artery doesn't bleed into the thigh (for femoral caths) or wrist (for radial artery caths).

...and caths take longer than 15 minutes because you're bound to have to get there sometime before it actually starts because the show isn't going to wait for the resident to show up. I honestly have better things to do most days than follow the patient to the cath lab.
 
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Otolaryngology and Ophthalmology in Wyoming, MI are going to finish out its current residents and does not plan to apply for ACGME accreditation.
Source: http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...program_id=128515&hosp_id=118986&returnPage=1
http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...program_id=128516&hosp_id=118986&returnPage=1

Dermatology in Cuyahoga Falls, OH is not planning to apply as well.
Source: http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...program_id=347549&hosp_id=347548&returnPage=1

Ophthalmology in Las Vegas, NV is not planning to apply.
Source: http://www.opportunities.osteopathi...program_id=175783&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1


The section on the opportunities website about applying for recognition is interesting, and I imagine it will get more so as more and more programs apply and receive pre- and full accreditation.

For example, here's a program that intends to apply for ACGME accreditation but not osteopathic recognition.

http://opportunities.osteopathic.or...program_id=183215&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1

That's neuro, the IM program has the same plan:

http://opportunities.osteopathic.or...program_id=162639&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1

As does the ortho program:

http://opportunities.osteopathic.or...program_id=328830&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1

However, the same hospital's FM program does intend to apply for osteopathic recognition:


http://opportunities.osteopathic.or...program_id=162647&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1

And, as mentioned before, their optho program is going away.
 
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The acgme has nothing to do with attendings.
Another statement making it clear to anyone with experience working with a residency program that you have no idea what you're talking about.

Oh goodness yes. I think I spent a shift's worth of time just gathering the requested info about me for the PIF before the last accreditation review.
I mean... I should have had all that information together anyways... but I didn't. Ugh.

I dont need to take posts out of context to tell you that you have literally no insight to this topic. Your experience with DO residencies? Zero. Your experience with the merger? Zero
You're absolutely right. Please point out where I've made any statements presuming that I do have such knowledge. When I have something to say, I qualify it. Otherwise I don't feel the need to make declarations about things I don't know about- you seem to do it pretty consistently. I do have knowledge of the ACGME, and just want to point out incorrect statements so you aren't able to mislead someone who doesn't know any better and thinks you actually know what you're talking about.

Stop it. Counterproductive. Disengage.

Look, unless someone in this thread is directly involved in the process then it's all speculation anyways. And one person's speculation is just as valid as another's. I will say, reading through, that some are making a more reasoned speculation and some are making a more emotional speculation. And in general, you're pretty unlikely to reason someone out of an emotional opinion; especially when they are disinclined to believe you in the first place.
 
it consistently amazes me how adamant people on SDN can be about things and then it turns out they are flat out wrong. maybe I should go into psych
 
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So, derailing a bit here, which graduating classes will have to do some abnormal due diligence on AOA residency closures? IE, is the class of 2016 particularly vulnerable to getting drop kicked out of a residency program later on before 2020 if their AOA residency can't meet ACGME standards? Is the class of 2020 going to even have to take the COMLEX if (as I am assuming, but may be wrong) the standard for admission is the USMLE since the governing body is ACGME?
 
What about people who applied and got into the 5 and 7 year specialties in the last few cycles that won't be finished with residency before/in 2020. If the programs don't apply for ACGME accreditation are the residents screwed after 2020?
 
So, derailing a bit here, which graduating classes will have to do some abnormal due diligence on AOA residency closures? IE, is the class of 2016 particularly vulnerable to getting drop kicked out of a residency program later on before 2020 if their AOA residency can't meet ACGME standards? Is the class of 2020 going to even have to take the COMLEX if (as I am assuming, but may be wrong) the standard for admission is the USMLE since the governing body is ACGME?

Every DO school requires the COMLEX for graduation, and the AOA and AACOM have been pretty emphatic that it's not going anywhere. I can see the importance of taking the USMLE increasing, but I don't see anything happening to COMLEX.
 
What about people who applied and got into the 5 and 7 year specialties in the last few cycles that won't be finished with residency before/in 2020. If the programs don't apply for ACGME accreditation are the residents screwed after 2020?

They said it's not retroactive, so I'm assuming current residents are fine until 2020. If their programs don't get ACGME accredited, then they'll either have to finish from an unaccredited program (if the program sponsors them to finish) or they'd have to transfer out to finish their training or start over I guess. There is such a thing as an unaccredited residency, but it wouldn't make you boards eligible.
 
The section on the opportunities website about applying for recognition is interesting, and I imagine it will get more so as more and more programs apply and receive pre- and full accreditation.

For example, here's a program that intends to apply for ACGME accreditation but not osteopathic recognition.

http://opportunities.osteopathic.or...program_id=183215&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1

That's neuro, the IM program has the same plan:

http://opportunities.osteopathic.or...program_id=162639&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1

As does the ortho program:

http://opportunities.osteopathic.or...program_id=328830&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1

However, the same hospital's FM program does intend to apply for osteopathic recognition:


http://opportunities.osteopathic.or...program_id=162647&hosp_id=162629&returnPage=1

And, as mentioned before, their optho program is going away.

Interesting. So essentially another way that DOs are losing their protected residency spots. A program like this would be fair game for all without any extra effort.
 
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Interesting. So essentially another way that DOs are losing their protected residency spots. A program like this would be fair game for all without any extra effort.

Yeah, I'm sure the programs will remain "DO friendly" but they will probably also be flooded by thousands of IMG applications, so competition will go up due to the shear number of applicants.
 
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Hi all. Interesting thread.

Here are 17 (ish) programs who passed initial accreditation. Some are full OPTI's. Make what you will of it (you will anyway).



[038180] Midwestern University
Osteopathic Postdoctoral Training
Institute
Arizona Howard M. Shulman,
DO
Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[119633] Lakeside Medical Center Florida Martin Schnier, DO Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[119635] Memorial Health System Florida Stanley W. Marks, MD Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[119637] Northside Hospital Florida Sara M. Downs, DO Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[259004] Botsford Hospital Michigan Craig S. Glines, DO Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[259585] Garden City Hospital Michigan Christopher Doig, DO Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[258418] Henry Ford Wyandotte Hospital Michigan Rebecca Steele, DO,
00
Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[259588] Lakeland Health Michigan Aissa Seck, JD Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[259565] McLaren Oakland Michigan Jo A. Mitchell, DO Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[259557] Metro Health Hospital Michigan Jeffrey D. Postlewaite,
DO
Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[259587] MSUCOM Statewide Campus
System
Michigan Jonathan D. Rohrer,
PhD
Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[279509] Magnolia Regional Health
Center
Mississippi Gena A. Lindsey, RN,
CTAGME
Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[289536] Kansas City University of
Medicine & Biosciences-GME
Consortium (KCU-GMEC)
Missouri John J. Dougherty, DO Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[289537] Still OPTI Missouri Richard J. LaBaere II,
DO
Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[369565] Campbell University Jerry M.
Wallace School of Osteopathic Medicine
North Carolina Robert T. Hasty, DO Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[389623] Memorial Health System Ohio Jill D. Powell, DO Initial Accreditation 07/01/2015 07/01/2015
[389622] Western Reserve Hospital
 
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Hi all. Interesting thread.

Here are 17 (ish) programs who passed initial accreditation. Some are full OPTI's. Make what you will of it (you will anyway).

Just so its clear, when an OPTI attains accreditation it means that it attains accreditation as a sponsoring organization. All residencies must have a sponsoring organization, which must also be approved/accredited before the residencies can apply. Once the sponsor gains accreditation, the individual programs can then apply in order to attain accreditation.

Its probably one of the main reasons why many programs haven't applied yet or why some DO residencies are shifting to be under MD schools, which are already accredited sponsors.
 
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Just so its clear, when an OPTI attains accreditation it means that it attains accreditation as a sponsoring organization. All residencies must have a sponsoring organization, which must also be approved/accredited before the residencies can apply. Once the sponsor gains accreditation, the individual programs can then apply in order to attain accreditation.

Its probably one of the main reasons why many programs haven't applied yet or why some DO residencies are shifting to be under MD schools, which are already accredited sponsors.

I have a some questions on that.

So both a medical school and a hospital can be an OPTI sponsor? Why would the new osteopathic residencies not be under a DO school, do certain DO schools not have the financial resources or research to be OPTI sponsor with the current merger? If the osteopathic residencies were under an MD medical school, wouldn't it mean that in terms of clinical rotations the MD students would have top priority vs. the nearby DO school?
 
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I have a some questions on that.

So both a medical school and a hospital can be an OPTI sponsor? Why would the new osteopathic residencies not be under a DO school, do certain DO schools not have the financial resources or research to be OPTI sponsor with the current merger? If the osteopathic residencies were under an MD medical school, wouldn't it mean that in terms of clinical rotations the MD students would have top priority vs. the nearby DO school?

So according to the ACGME, a sponsor can be a med school, hospital/hospital system, or an OPTI. Either way though, most, if not all, DO schools and all OPTIs aren't ACGME accredited sponsors, because they've never needed to be until now. That basically adds an extra step in the process for ACGME accreditation to any residencies that are under a DO school or an OPTI. Because of that some programs are seeking accreditation with an MD school sponsor.

Most, if not all OPTIs are in fact applying to be sponsors, and most OPTIs are to begin with sponsored by DO schools (some schools have agreements with pre-existing OPTIs rather than having one of their own for whatever reason). As a result most programs will likely seek accreditation through its respective OPTIs.

The only reason some programs are choosing to be under an MD sponsor is probably because those programs or hospital systems are already affiliated with MD schools and doing so would be a simpler process.

There are many DO programs housed in hospitals/hospital systems alongside MD programs that are sponsored/affiliated with an MD school. In those institutions, you will usually find DO and MD students rotating together. In other words, that dynamic of preferring or having spots for MD and DO students already exists. For example, my school sends some of its kids to a hospital system. Two MD schools also send some of their kids to that same system (they rotate alongside each other, just on a slightly different rotation schedule). That system houses some MD and some DO residency programs.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, everyone needs to calm down and actually see what's going to happen before assuming everything is being ruined. We're jumping to a lot of conclusions on this thread without any real hard evidence and with pretty plausible explanations to the contrary.
 
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