APMLE Part 3 2023

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it seems as if the argument shifted from whether or not failing the boards multiple times implies that there is a more glaring issue at hand vs. what admission committees think or are looking for. @Robin-jay I agree that it's not a dealbreaker for finding a decent residency but can obviously be looked down upon.

What really removes the variable of whether boards are significant or not is the fact many students basically have a boards answer key. There are so many answer key type resources in podiatric medical school, I'm not sure one could even take anyone's GPA or board record seriously at this point.
 
What really removes the variable of whether boards are significant or not is the fact many students basically have a boards answer key. There are so many answer key type resources in podiatric medical school, I'm not sure one could even take anyone's GPA or board record seriously at this point.
Then it shows against a students ability to network be resourceful to not have said answer key
 
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Then it shows against a students ability to network be resourceful to not have said answer key
That's a terrible take for an insurmountable amount of reasons.

The point is that boards and GPA are terrible, or at least highly negatively influenced indications, of competence because of the obvious reasons of "answer keys" shoved around.

I had advanced quantum chemistry 600 in chemistry graduate school, and the exams were nothing like the previous years. That's a test of knowledge.

The same exams/boards over and over in podiatric medical school is an issue that prevents anyone from efficiently evaluating your intelligence or knowledge.

You can have a pristine GPA or board record, but how is anyone suppose to know if you had "great resource collection skills" or did it through knowledge and intelligence.

That's the main problem.
 
Are Kent/Barry students still writing down test questions / answers?
Are there schools that don't?

I understand the conundrum...As specific courses will always want high yield questions to be on the exams, meaning you can't change the exams too much each year because you will want students of each class to understand the same 80% of important material.

But courses can also change their formatting, ways to ask questions, etc....but usually they don't for some reason.

Even undergrad. colleges do a much better job at mixing up their exams each year to prevent this. Not to mention the good undergrad. colleges use a format other than multiple choice, like actually writing down problems and solving them on paper to be evaluated.

But the current status quo essentially makes gpa and boards useless, so the only option left to truly evaluate a prospective resident physician is to evaluate their knowledge and clinical skills as a student in externships.
 
That's a terrible take for an insurmountable amount of reasons.

The point is that boards and GPA are terrible, or at least highly negatively influenced indications, of competence because of the obvious reasons of "answer keys" shoved around.

I had advanced quantum chemistry 600 in chemistry graduate school, and the exams were nothing like the previous years. That's a test of knowledge.

The same exams/boards over and over in podiatric medical school is an issue that prevents anyone from efficiently evaluating your intelligence or knowledge.

You can have a pristine GPA or board record, but how is anyone suppose to know if you had "great resource collection skills" or did it through knowledge and intelligence.

That's the main problem.
the obvious sarcasm going over your head couldn't be a more fitting end to this "debate". happy holidays.
 
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Any new advice/tips since the last testing date for part 3? Or would recent testers still agree with what everyone has been saying for years?
 
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I've already started studying for part 3. I want to get it done before residency starts.

Is the general consensus that part 2 and part 3 similar in difficulty, or that part 3 might even be easier?