If you want basic science from some of the best rat doctors in the country, psychology studies, and physical therapy studies, the APS is an excellent meeting. There is usually a dearth of interventional pain that for years was largely ignored or excluded by the APS. Their board of directors and committee chairs are composed of primarily non-physicians so predictably the APS slant on pain not from our standpoint. Sometimes that is not a bad thing....even crazy people and rats need love too.