Are my stats good enough?

[Mark1243542513245]

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Hello guys,

First time posting on this forum.

I would greatly appreciate it if you guys would let me know if my stats are good enough for US dental schools.
I am Canadian btw.
Stats:
oGPA: 3.5, sGPA around 3.42
These are my American DAT scores:
PAT: 22
QR: 17
RC: 19
Bio: 19
Gchem: 20
Ochem: 19
TS: 19
AA: 19

I also have research experience, shadowing of general dentist, and good LORs for 2 science profs.

Thanks in advance

 

[arlmay]

All I could suggest is apply and find out. You have just about average stats but are an international student and only can qualify for a certain number of spots

 

[Incis0r]

Hello guys,

First time posting on this forum.

I would greatly appreciate it if you guys would let me know if my stats are good enough for US dental schools.
I am Canadian btw.
Stats:
oGPA: 3.5, sGPA around 3.42
These are my American DAT scores:
PAT: 22
QR: 17
RC: 19
Bio: 19
Gchem: 20
Ochem: 19
TS: 19
AA: 19

I also have research experience, shadowing of general dentist, and good LORs for 2 science profs.

Thanks in advance

From what I have learned here on SDN, if you apply EARLY (like july) with stats like yours, you'll get a decent # of interviews and have a good chance!

 

[deleted659902]

Hello guys,

First time posting on this forum.

I would greatly appreciate it if you guys would let me know if my stats are good enough for US dental schools.
I am Canadian btw.
Stats:
oGPA: 3.5, sGPA around 3.42
These are my American DAT scores:
PAT: 22
QR: 17
RC: 19
Bio: 19
Gchem: 20
Ochem: 19
TS: 19
AA: 19

I also have research experience, shadowing of general dentist, and good LORs for 2 science profs.

Thanks in advance

I'm not sure about the GPA, but you definitely need a higher DAT score since you are an international.

 

[Incis0r]

I'm not sure about the GPA, but you definitely need a higher DAT score since you are an international.

Are Canadians really considered "international"s? I mean, considering the high amount of reciprocal accreditations on our undergrad, dental school, and licensure levels, they're practically a part of the United States!

 

[2thsaver]

I'm not sure about the GPA, but you definitely need a higher DAT score since you are an international.

Not sure where you got this info from, but I'm Canadian and got accepted with my old DAT scores (18AA/19TS/18PAT). GPA's are in my signature. So the OP should be fine. I have a friend who's also Canadian and he got an interview at UDM with a 19AA. Another friend got interviews at Creighton and MWU-AZ last year with a 19AA as well. So the thought that internationals are held to a higher standard is not entirely true.

 

[Daneosaurus]

Are Canadians really considered "international"s? I mean, considering the high amount of reciprocal accreditations on our undergrad, dental school, and licensure levels, they're practically a part of the United States!

I know, right? Canada is basically North USA. @Applesandteeth

 

[Incis0r]

I know, right? Canada is basically North USA. @Applesandteeth

Can we march up there and re-integrate them into this country?

 

[Dekaros]

Not sure where you got this info from, but I'm Canadian and got accepted with my old DAT scores (18AA/19TS/18PAT). GPA's are in my signature. So the OP should be fine. I have a friend who's also Canadian and he got an interview at UDM with a 19AA. Another friend got interviews at Creighton and MWU-AZ last year with a 19AA as well. So the thought that internationals are held to a higher standard is not entirely true.

As a Canadian who also applied this cycle an got in, I would say Canadians are still considered as international applicants.
It is true we get a bit of a break compared to other international applicants as we come from a English-based education, and we take courses that are identical to those taught in American universities.
But you must also note that there are only few private schools that accepts large numbers of Canadians (like at least ~10 students/year), (namely UDM, NYU, BU.. etc) and I feel these schools are generally accepting less and less Canadians over time.
I attended a Canadian undergrad, and from observing many friends who also applied to US Dental schools over past couple years, it does seem like we need a higher gpa/DAT than average applicants to get an acceptance.
For 2thsaver, I would really have to say that 3.96 post-bacc played a huge part. I can't say much for his friend who got in with 19AA as I don't know his other stats.

So bottom line, yes Canadians gets it a bit easy compared to other internationals, but I think we still have a harder time getting in than most American students.
For the OP, I would honestly say that his DAT is on the lower side, and he should improve the scores unless he has awesome ECs.

 

[2thsaver]

As a Canadian who also applied this cycle an got in, I would say Canadians are still considered as international applicants.
It is true we get a bit of a break compared to other international applicants as we come from a English-based education, and we take courses that are identical to those taught in American universities.
But you must also note that there are only few private schools that accepts large numbers of Canadians (like at least ~10 students/year), (namely UDM, NYU, BU.. etc) and I feel these schools are generally accepting less and less Canadians over time.
I attended a Canadian undergrad, and from observing many friends who also applied to US Dental schools over past couple years, it does seem like we need a higher gpa/DAT than average applicants to get an acceptance.
For 2thsaver, I would really have to say that 3.96 post-bacc played a huge part. I can't say much for his friend who got in with 19AA as I don't know his other stats.

So bottom line, yes Canadians gets it a bit easy compared to other internationals, but I think we still have a harder time getting in than most American students.
For the OP, I would honestly say that his DAT is on the lower side, and he should improve the scores unless he has awesome ECs.

I definitely agree with you here. I was just referring to the DAT in particular. As internationals, we don't "need" a higher DAT score. It definitely helps, but it's not absolutely necessary. If your app is solid in all other categories, you should be fine. My friends had good GPA's (3.8 and 3.5), so that's why they got their interviews. We do have a harder time getting in vs. Americans, but at the same time it's not like we need a 20AA and 3.7 to get an acceptance. I got accepted to a school not known to be Canadian friendly....they wouldn't even accept my Canadian DAT. So it's not like our choices are limited to Canadian friendly schools. The application process is a complete crapshoot. I've learned this from browsing SDN for the last 3 years. Just have to cross your fingers and hope for the best!

 

[Mark1243542513245]

Thanks everyone who replied, I really appreciate it.

 

[bc1002]

I am not exactly an international because I have green card. But from what I see from other Chinese people who got accepted into US dental school as foreigners, they all have great GPA and DAT scores and got into their top choice schools. I guess my point is if OP wants to attend a particular school, it would be good idea for him/her to improve dat.